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Agilent Technologies, Inc. (A)

Q1 2008 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 13, 2008

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Quarter One 2008 Agilent Technologies Incorporated Earnings Call. My name is Michelle, and I'll be your coordinator for today. At this time all participants are in listen-only mode. We will be facilitating a question-and-answer session towards the end of the conference. (Operator Instructions). As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. And I would now like to turn the presentation over to your host for today, Mr. Rodney Gonsalves. Please proceed.

Rodney Gonsalves

Management

Thank you and welcome to Agilent's first quarter conference call for FY 2008. With me are Agilent's President and CEO, Bill Sullivan and Executive Vice President of Finance Administration and CFO, Adrian Dillon. After my introductory comment, Bill will give his perspective on the quarter and the business environment. Adrian will follow with his review of the financials and the performance of each of the businesses. After Adrian's comments we will open the lines to take your questions. In case you haven't had a chance to review our press release, you can find it on our website at www.investor.agilent.com. We are also providing further information to supplement today's discussion. After you log onto our webcast module from our website, you can click on the link for supplemental information. You will find additional information such as our end market revenue breakouts and historical financial information for Agilent's continuing operations. In accordance with SEC Regulation G, if during this conference call we use any non-GAAP financial measure, you will find on our website the required reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. In addition, I'd like to remind you that we may make forward-looking statements about our future financial performances of the company that involves risks and uncertainties. These risks and uncertainties could cause Agilent's results to differ materially from management's current expectations. We encourage you to look at the company's most recent filings with the SEC to get a more complete picture of all the factors at work. The forward-looking statements including guidance provided during today's call are only valid as of this date and the company assumes no obligation to update such statements as we move through the current quarter. Lastly, and before I turn the call over to Bill, I'd like to note that Ronald Nersesian, Vice President, General Manager of Agilent's Wireless Business Unit will be presenting at the upcoming Goldman Sachs Technology Symposium on Tuesday, February 22. Now I'll turn the call over to Bill for his comments.

Bill Sullivan

Management

Thanks Rodney and hello everyone. We have just completed the first quarter of our fiscal year 2008. This is the first quarter of year two of our transformation to a singular focus on the $43 billion measurement market. A measurement market that is broad based and touches every technology industry in the world. We strongly believe that Agilent is uniquely positioned to provide the innovation and cost effective solutions for our customers' measurement needs anywhere in the world. Furthermore, as we have demonstrated in fiscal year '07, we have the ability to provide these measurement solutions within the context of an operating model that can deliver 8% to 10% revenue growth, greater than 14% operating profit, and 21% return on invested capital through an economic cycle. Our results in Q1 continue to demonstrate the balance of our portfolio across markets and geographies, as well as the [streams] of our disciplined operating model. Revenue is up 9% over last year, while orders increased by 12%, the highest rate in two years. Operating margins reached 14% and ROIC was 23% delivering an adjusted net income of $160 million or $0.42 per share. Both revenue and earnings were near the high end of our guidance. For the second quarter of FY'08, we expect revenue growth up 6% to 10% from last year, adjusted net income will be in the range of $0.46 to $0.50 per share, 7% to 16% above last years' comparable earning. While we remain cautious, we continue to be comfortable with the range of analyst's full year estimate. Adrian will shortly provide you with a detailed performance of our operating unit, but I would like to take a few minutes to discuss why we are cautiously optimistic about our ability to continually meet our growth objective while maintaining our operating…

Adrian Dillon

Management

Thank you, Bill. Good afternoon, everyone. I am going to offer a few overall perspectives on the quarter for Agilent, review the performance of our two business segments, and conclude with some thoughts about second quarter and full year 2008 guidance. Then we will turn it back to Rodney for Q&A. Overall, Agilent's first quarter was very much in line with our expectations, with performance that was better balanced between segments and geographies than we had seen in several quarters. Bio-analytical market showed sustained momentum with orders up 20% and revenues up 15% from last year, the 7th consecutive quarter of double-digit growth. Both life sciences and chemical analysis markets in all geographies were up double-digit as well. Stratagene was responsible for about 5 points of segment revenue growth. After several tough quarters, electronic measurement market showed a bit of recovery in Q1 with orders up 8%, revenues up 5%, and the handset manufacturing test market up 11% from one year ago. Overall, first quarter revenues of $1.39 billion were up 9% from last year and up 6% in local currency term. Operating earnings of $0.42 per share were near the top of our $0.38 to $0.43 guidance range. Cash generation managed to stay barely positive in the first quarter, in addition to the normal seasonal weakness, the shift in our compensational reward cycle into Q1 and a front loaded tax payment reduced operating cash by a $127 million in the quarter, leaving us at a positive $4 million of cash generated from operations. Booking capital continued to be at strength, with receivables DSOs at 47 equal to last year, and inventories three days lower at 99 days on hand. During the period, we repurchased 237 million of stock and issued $69 million of new share under our employee stock…

Rodney Gonsalves

Management

Thanks, Adrian. Michelle I would like you to go ahead and give instructions for the Q&A.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions). Your first question comes from the line of Jon Wood of Banc of America Securities. Please proceed.

John Wood - Banc of America Securities

Analyst

Okay, thanks. The acquisition related outflow of a $113 million, Is that solely related to the Velocity11 acquisitions?

Adrian Dillon

Management

Not solely, but the vast majority yes.

John Wood - Banc of America Securities

Analyst

Okay, could you give us a sense of the revenue run rate and margin profile of that asset?

Adrian Dillon

Management

No, we don't provide that kind of information on a relatively small acquisition.

John Wood - Banc of America Securities

Analyst

Okay.

Bill Sullivan

Management

But we are very pleased with the acquisition of Velocity 11, and I think with our brand name, and our reach around the world, that this acquisition will also bring value to Agilent.

John Wood - Banc of America Securities

Analyst

Okay. Can you offer some detail on the road of weakness in U.S pharma, biotech that you mentioned. Was the softness concentrated in any specific product line or was it basically across the Board?

Bill Sullivan

Management

Most of the softness was in the core instrumentation, service support, [technical] looked fine, and again our growth rate has been so hot in these areas. So, if there's any place that saw a little bit of softness that's where it was.

John Wood - Banc of America Securities

Analyst

Okay, and it seems as if various competitors experience some weakness in Europe yet it doesn't seem like that you saw that, how have the order trends look in Europe within bio-analytical?

Adrian Dillon

Management

It's been fine, we've steady robust growth in Europe, and I think, some of what you may be seeing a little bit of competitive activity across different geographies. We've seen steady growth in Europe.

John Wood - Banc of America Securities

Analyst

Okay. And then can you just comment on the M&A environment in life sciences, has it changed at all in the last three to six months, are you are seeing more opportunities, better valuations, or is it largely consistent with '07?

Adrian Dillon

Management

It's really been very consistent with '07.

John Wood - Banc of America Securities

Analyst

Okay.

Bill Sullivan

Management

(inaudible) again a lot of the mid-range companies have been acquired over the last.

John Wood - Banc of America Securities

Analyst

Okay. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Rob Mason of Robert W. Baird. Please proceed.

Rob Mason - Robert W. Baird

Analyst

Yeah, just a couple of things. You know, Adrian, maybe this gets to your seasonality comment there at the end. But with sales projected as they are in the second quarter, it looks like your operating margin expansion, if I am doing the math correctly, would be about flat. One I guess is that correct? And if so, why are we not a seeing a little more expansion there, given that we should have. Now as we think about this be a little bit of a tailwind on the shift in compensation cycle?

Adrian Dillon

Management

Your arithmetic is just about correct. And again, I would emphasize that last years' second quarter was simply spectacular, if you look at that quarter operating margin at 15.1%, that was up over 1.5 points from the prior second quarter in '06. We just had a blowout second quarter because we had put all of the breaks on anticipating weakness in the electronic measurements segment, and conversely that’s what happened and if you will recall in the fourth quarter, we had a relatively disappointing result. So I would - if you compare your two year seasonal I think we have a better and more accurate reflection of what we are expecting this year than if you just look at second quarter of 2007.

Bill Sullivan

Management

Again, as Adrian had said in his comments, we have made no fundamental change to our plan of record in 2008, which is tied directly to the compensation of our top management team.

Adrian Dillon

Management

One other point, as many of you have noted, we are doing some acquisitions and we don't break out information on how much are we spending on those acquisitions and how much would we otherwise be earning. You can assume that we are spending money and as we illustrated that is dilutive earnings, and we do expect that to turn around in the second half of this year.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Terence Whalen of Citi Investment Research. Please proceed.

Terence Whalen - Citi Investment Research

Analyst

Thanks for taking my question and nice job in a tough environment. My first question relates to the comments that you made around semi and computer down 13%. You said Parametric test remained weak this quarter. I was wondering if you could delineate between what you are seeing in terms of revenue and orders in that market and what your expectations are over the next several quarters.

Bill Sullivan

Management

In terms of the semiconductor market, it is a tough environment for us. Again we don't have a large presence in semiconductor manufacturing. But as you know, we have a very, very high market share in parametric tests. I think the expectation is that this will be a difficult market for the remainder of the year. But always, hope always springs internal in the second half. But this is an example where we have seen a substantial slowdown in parametric test. Yet this seems to still remain profitable as the variable cost structure that they have made in place. In terms of the electronic measurements, again we talked a little about this during the analyst meeting in previous call. The pressure on contract manufacturing in this segment is very, very large, coupling without some of the very large mergers that are going on. It is a difficult environment overall. We've restructured that team and we've said, we've basically moved the center of our support in to Asia and we are aggressively looking for alternate submarket segment for us to be able to maintain our position. Again this business is profitable but it's clearly a tough environment.

Terence Whalen - Citi Investment Research

Analyst

Okay, can I follow up the cycle on life sciences; I think you mentioned about 41% China growth, 51% India growth. What are you setting your plan toward, going forward obviously, these are lofty numbers. Do you expect those to moderate over the next several quarters? Thank you.

Adrian Dillon

Management

Yes, I would say, we had not planned on quite that velocity of growth in the first quarter, and we didn't built our plan based on 40% to 50% growth. But again, as we showed at the analyst meetings, we have been assuming very substantial growth in those two regions, and if anything, the growth is exceeding out expectations and certainly bolstering, both our top and bottom line.

Terence Whalen - Citi Investment Research

Analyst

Thanks and I'll get in the queue.

Bill Sullivan

Management

(inaudible) I'm just getting back from India and Asia, there's clearly enormous opportunity for us to continue to grow as we bring on more resources to really be able to support a very dynamic and best growing customer base.

Terence Whalen - Citi Investment Research

Analyst

Thank you

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Will Stein of Credit Suisse. Please proceed.

Will Stein - Credit Suisse

Analyst

Thanks, Good afternoon.

Bill Sullivan

Management

Good afternoon

Will Stein - Credit Suisse

Analyst

Hi guys, bio-analytic I think, is now over 50% of operating profits, at least was in this quarter, I think.

Adrian Dillon

Management

53%

Terence Whalen - Citi Investment Research

Analyst

I am sorry.

Adrian Dillon

Management

53% of total profit.

Will Stein - Credit Suisse

Analyst

So do we expect that, I know that this is somewhat seasonal thing, but do we expect that to be the case for the full year perhaps or is that shift may be more year out?

Bill Sullivan

Management

I will Adrian talk from a financial standpoint, but needless to say there is enormous pressure on the electronic measurement side to reset moving forward, they obviously have a couple of segments that as we discussed; semiconductor, contract manufacturing. But if you look at our core wireless business and electronic measurement, it is very, very competitive and again, the opportunity in electronic measurement is to manage through some of the tougher segments, the analytical part of the world basically today it has no real weak segment.

Adrian Dillon

Management

To answer your question Will, I suspect that electronic measurement will be boosting a quarter from now and that the permanent shift will occur next year.

Will Stein - Credit Suisse

Analyst

Okay, great. And then regarding the weak markets that you mentioned Bill semis and EMS, is there any potential share loss going on there. I mean those guys are under tremendous pressure obviously that their business model has just turned out as robust as maybe some of your other customers. And I am wondering if there are competitive pressures that are causing Agilent perhaps to lose share to lower cost alternative and then whether or not that’s the case. Do you have any anticipated timeframe of a turnaround of those markets for you guys?

Bill Sullivan

Management

First of all, we have no evidence that market share, and we are aggressively restructuring the businesses to make sure that we are still cost competitive, which is anytime in a tough market there is a pressure on margins. But, again, as you know our record speaks for itself. We move very aggressively to ensure that we have a cost effective operating model build to compete in these market, particularly in parametric test we have no data whatsoever we have lost any business, but its just a tough environment and I think one would assume that it is going to continue for the rest of the year. Do we imagine it can get worse? We don’t know, but I would assume that at least could be flat and for the rest of the year to get an upside at the end of the year, that’s great, but we are not, our plan does not count on that.

Will Stein - Credit Suisse

Analyst

Okay. Maybe, Adrian, if I could get one quick maintenance question here. Looks like restricted cash went from current assets to long-term. Is that right or the other way around? It switched the grouping and I am wondering if you could comment why that's happened?

Adrian Dillon

Management

Yes, the restricted cash went from long-term to short-term as is the debt. That is because there is a call on that debt that is less than 365 days which forces us to move the liability up in to current liability and therefore use the restricted cash up as well.

Will Stein - Credit Suisse

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Deane Dray of Goldman Sachs. Please proceed.

Deane Dray - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon.

Adrian Dillon

Management

Hey Deane.

Deane Dray - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Question on your overall guidance, and it was clear in your press release and prepared remarks, you talked about that you are making no changes to your outlook. But I just counted up where four different times in your prepared remarks you referred to the difficult economic environment, macro issues and uncertain, economic [uncertainty] and so forth. So clearly it's changed in the last three months ago when you last updated guidance. So the first question is how is that you are saying that you haven't changed your outlook, given your concerns about the economic environment and we don’t see it in the numbers yet. So where else are you seeing it very specifically and how do you think this plays out?

Bill Sullivan

Management

Deane. Again one thing that I do and Adrian does is, we constantly travel around the world to take a read on the economic environment. So you are going to get a view from our perspective, and I will share those thoughts in a moment. Again the newsprints, the newspapers are overwhelming amount of what I call [signaling the noise] of a potential economic slowdown for us to dismiss that out of hand, given that no one knows what the world is going to look like in six months to a year. I think we'll just be foolish. But let me talk about and I just concluded a world tour over the last from the end of December to January. And first thing you do, of course, you visit all the top managers, CEOs of your customers around the world, no evidence of any additional slow down other than the troubled market that we have already discussed, get all the feedbacks we received, business is okay, its good. Second thing; we constantly look at it, what is their behavior. In the capital market there's usually two behavior, the first one is, how hard is it to get PO signed, how many signatures are there to get a PO in a company. And sure enough, if you look at the markets that in fact are having some difficulty, there are more people having to sign off the time to get the PO approved is longer. We have not seen that in a lot of our growth markets that we've just described, a change in behavior on how acquisitions, capital investment are made. The second that we look for and I look for particularly, is when does the CEO send out a mandate that all capital spending stops on Monday, because again, that is always the danger in the future, if there is enough economic uncertainty or crisis, people would stop spending money, we have seen no evidence to date of any of that happening through our view of the world and this is my personal travel as well as the feedback that we have received from our thousands of direct sales people around the world. So again, cannot dismiss the rhetoric, particularly in the United States, in terms of concerns since we are acting prudently and the flipside of it is other than the well documented industries that are having some difficulty, we have not seen evidence or problems in any of the other submarket that we've described.

Adrian Dillon

Management

And let me add one little bit of thought there as well. The main difference between three months ago and today is that three months ago, some folks were forecasting weakness and today its all over the papers, and so for us, not to address that would as Bill said be irresponsible. But we have planned conservatively and so our numbers haven’t changed, because our numbers have come in very much like we anticipated they would, and despite whatever weakness there was in the US, we still grew 5% and worldwide our orders were up 12%. So I think it illustrates the stability of the markets we participate in the US as well as the robustness of the rest of economic environment. But again, a point we are trying to make and may be we are [delivering] it, is that we are focused on this and we have the flexibility and scalability to adapt no matter what happens.

Deane Dray - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

That’s very helpful. And Bill as you kind of click through the leading indicators of where you might see softness. One of the ones that we remember from the last downturn is e-booking or order push outs, anything like that?

Bill Sullivan

Management

Yeah. Other than the contract manufacturing. I mean the places where we have identified with, that’s where you are going to have the noise, particularly given two of the larger contract manufacturers are in the process emerging. Again outside of the areas that are identified by ourselves and the industry, we have not seen that behavior in the other markets that we are seeing some pretty healthy growth.

Deane Dray - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Okay. Then if we just switch into a specific business on handset test, Bill, you had talked before that you though maybe that business had bottomed and you got 11% growth this quarter. And then, Adrian you thought that there would sustained recovery in '08. Does that outlook also reflect the changes in the business model or for the industry moving from a low cost, low feature phones which then have a lower revenue opportunity in the past. How much has that changed and how has that changed your outlook?

Bill Sullivan

Management

Again, I think that our outlook hasn’t changed at all. Since our last call people are putting enormous pressure on eliminating co-processing. We are all over that change, we do have easy compares because of the drop that we saw last year, and I think the big one is again the wireless manufacturing is only 6% now with the company. The R&D research market in this space is we believe at least three times larger than the wireless manufacturing. So you are getting a market where you hopefully have hit this [asset]. On the existing technology expansions there's opportunity for us in software upgrades and all the things that go on and new feature that get put in and then you got the new standards coming in, that will in fact that will lower cost base and again we are going to be prepared to, to be able to capitalize on that. But you can see and you can see the growth in our wireless side and the announcement we've made in WiMAX and LTE. We are actually being committed to be a leader with our partners such as Anite to be a leader in protocol test, and we really believe that is the big opportunity today and the teams are executing very, very well.

Deane Dray - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Great. And then a question on network monitoring (inaudible) called out in the release an area of softness. Is it too early to tell yet with the ownership change in Tektronix and iNET whether some of the economic or competitive headwinds that you been dealing with, does that changed at all, has it worsened and how do you think this plays out?

Bill Sullivan

Management

Well again, we wouldn't make any comments on how that's going from our competitive standpoint. Our task first of all is to get back to profitability, we have done that, we've successfully divested part of the businesses; that is complete. We are defining on internet protocol opportunities and end of the day we have to out-compete not only direct competitors that you mentioned, but as well as other competitors in the space and that's the task of the team.

Deane Dray - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

So you are profitable now in network monitoring.

Adrian Dillon

Management

Yes

Bill Sullivan

Management

That's correct.

Deane Dray - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

What businesses were divested, what function?

Adrian Dillon

Management

They were small installation and maintenance related businesses in that monitoring space.

Deane Dray - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jon Groberg of Merrill Lynch. Please proceed.

Jon Groberg - Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Good evening, thanks for taking my call.

Bill Sullivan

Management

Hi Jon.

Jon Groberg - Merrill Lynch

Analyst

So, Bill I'm going to put you on the spot for just a second and your discussion of -- everyone likes to talk about what customers are doing, but what is Agilent doing? Have you guys increased the number of signatures needed for POs or are you pulling back any capital expenditures?

Bill Sullivan

Management

Well, first of all, in terms of the capital investments, we are very low capital required company. In fact about 80% of the capital that we use inside the company is our own test equipment. So from that perspective, even though I am notoriously frugal, that's not a major issue. In terms of our hiring, which is our biggest expense, we have very, very tight controls on spending ensuring that the parts of the business that have opportunity are resourced and again its ability for us to reallocate resources, I believe, its actually in some cases, quite different that our competitors. As you, I think you know that we have very two very large direct sales force, and it's our ability to draft the 5,200 we have in sales and marketing to support to the opportunities and it can be done almost instantaneously. Likewise, we have essentially 10 or 12 major instrument platform that we supports these markets and how quickly can we reconfigure these instruments with the application required is really one of the Agilent moving forward. And then you couple that with having a much, much higher variable spending that will automatically self correct depending on what our actual is. I believe that we are well positioned but we are being very conservative in looking at increasing our headcount except for the acquisitions that we have made.

Jon Groberg - Merrill Lynch

Analyst

So I was wondering do you think these things become no one [sees it elsewhere] they can become self fulfilling prophecies. So…

Adrian Dillon

Management

We are not seeing anything in behavior, but we are, we did plan conservatively going into the year and we are continuing to be conservative and let the revenues lead the expenses.

Jon Groberg - Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Okay. And a quick question on a few of your bio-analytical businesses, you talked a lot about the electronic side and I think we can all kind of imagine the pressures that may materialize throughout the year as things go there. On the bio-analytical side, you also gave me your chemical analysis business have quite a bit of, what you might term industrial exposure and I am just curious if you are seeing anything on the commodities side, the petrochemical side, any of those more industrial markets that’s giving you any reason to believe that some of those businesses may slowdown.

Bill Sullivan

Management

There is no, I mean the two big ones for us and again Adrian detailed that our biggest one is petrochemical and there the business is just super strong, I mean the investment that is going in for energy, most of it continues to be powerful fuel, has been very, very strong and we are well positioned and so one could see if our macro environment if there is a big slowdown when people in fact cut down all investment in petrochemical. But it is not clear to me, the demands in India and China and the developing countries overwhelm any minor slowdown that may show up in the U.S. And so and then the other big one of course is food and the environment. Environment is the topic of the day and the food industry again is the basic human need. So again we really don't have that exposure to describe in classical industrial base. But one thing I, you wanted to make sure that is clear. Yes there is pressure in EMG on the manufacturing side. We have dramatically shifted our resources in to the research and development side which and you can look at the performance. Our gross margins continue to improve year-over-year actually sequentially improved from Q4 to Q3. So we are actually committed to focus on the opportunity that will continue to drive our gross margins consistent with our operating model.

Jon Groberg - Merrill Lynch

Analyst

And one more question on the bio-analytical. You mentioned strategy and you expect it to kind of trend the corner in the second half of the year. Can you may be just give an update on -- that was one of your larger acquisitions there in bio-analytical. Maybe just how the integration is gone, any lessons learned and then I am also looking forward to future acquisitions if you can maybe talk about your genetic analysis platform and whether or not you think, if you think there are other things that you need to do to remain competitive in that fast growing market?

Bill Sullivan

Management

Right. I will make a couple of comments in terms of our work flow and then turn it over Adrian to talk about the integration as he has been leading the team to ensure that we have a seamless integration and get all the obvious past benefits and synergy moving forward. So the task at hand in terms of strategy and of course it is to get the team in place, settle all the intellectual property issues that we inherited. As it has been documented we have in fact completed those mutually satisfactory to our self and the company that there has been a previous dispute with that has been resolved. The teams that worked closely with our research lab, our instrument platforms, to identify key differential workflow solutions that you are going to be carrying more about that over from the second half of the year and into the year 2009. What has been very pleasing to me is that we have not lost any revenue since we have acquired the company. So again, it’s a real big plus. In terms of the genomic side, again we have refocused our micro array business into niche applications that we believe that we can drive real value in higher average selling price per byte or per array. We continue to have great acceptance into our ACGH, which is a comparative analysis. We have talked about being the first company to be able to measure microRNAs and we are really focusing on applications that we can really provide a differentiable contribution at the market place and the net result is, is that our growth is sly or in micro arrays continues to be solid double digits plus that we are back when this used to be a big money loser for the company, we are back into the breakeven to going positive given the focus we have in differentiable applications. And I think that’s the key we are about a differentiation, not just being a me-too to somebody else. So again, very pleased in the direction, still a lot of work to go but, and again, based on that base we will continue to try to expand our product offering.

Adrian Dillon

Management

And, John, as far as the integration, it has been going very well. We knew we had to succeed here. We knew it wasn’t just a full then, and we took it very seriously. We setup a full time project team. We meet as a steering committee every other week and we have a very detailed project plan that’s been ongoing now for about just over six months. But at this point, virtually all of the integration of the backend of the infrastructure of the finance of the governance has been completed. We'll finish that up in the second quarter but it has done extremely well and from a back office perspective we have got all of the synergies that we had intended and planned for when we made the acquisition. We've also gotten some good talent from that acquisition such as for example the head of strategy and sales is now the head of all the America sales for the bio-analytical segment for and now we really are picking the best from both sides integrating the back office and now we can begin to focus on the real value from this acquisition which is the frontline synergies taking their variations into our traditional channel taking our instruments into their traditional government and academic channel and then creating the kind of distinctive creations like that work best with our instruments and to create a unique work flow that customers are going to pay for, so that’s the opportunity ahead.

Jon Groberg - Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Great and just two quick detailed questions. Adrian can you just tell us the local currency is so kind of external currency in fact was contribution for each of the division -- each of the divisions and then the settlement that you alluded to within [Vitrogen] is that going to be just a part of your results or are you going to categorize that as a one time kind of issue in the second quarter?

Adrian Dillon

Management

I think it's done, it's already been accounted for.

Jon Groberg - Merrill Lynch

Analyst

That one is accounted for. Okay and then the local currency?

Adrian Dillon

Management

The local currency the impact on revenue growth and electronic measurement was about 2 points and for bio-analytical it was about 4 points.

Jon Groberg - Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Okay thanks.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions). Your next question comes from the line of David Chung of Lehman Brothers. Please proceed

David Chung - Lehman Brothers

Analyst

Thanks very much. You did talk about food safety again that was very strong. You had three quarters of over 20% growth. Just wondering if you continue to see that as a good run-rate for the rest of the year and secondly if you kind of think about you made comments talking about China and this changed to increasing the standards. How long does that, that whole process play out if you can provide some comments on that?

Bill Sullivan

Management

Again with all the caveats, that not sure if crystal balls are any better than any one else, but this whole issue of food, food safety, the comments that Adrian made about trying to drive the performance of food safety back into country of origin. This whole new movement on food authenticity, the food that you eat in the restaurant is really what it says on the menu. We believe that will continue. In terms of China, given their issues they had with the approval of their Federal Drug Administration of which they were severe scandals. Actually China had slowed down and now that, that's back under control and obviously renewed focus to be able to address some of the issues that they have. We don't see any. There is no reason for us to believe that there will be a fundamental slowdown in the market. It's up to us to compete and provide the best solutions. We've also continued to expand our teams in Shanghai. They have more regionally local base instruments, trying to localize to their needs and again we're that's been going very well at all. So again don't have to ask for the crystal ball, but there's surely no evidence of [increasing the standards] in China.

David Chung - Lehman Brothers

Analyst

Thanks. And I was just wondering if you could either talk about some good growth in Japan. I was wondering if you could throw out some comments on the [Masbeth] side, how's that looking in Japan?

Bill Sullivan

Management

The problem is that our base is pretty small, but the number looks good. We have got a lot of work to do in Japan. There's a one of our strongest competitors is Japanese but again, we'll continue to compete but in absolute percent of the growth was very high, that I think in terms of, non-measurable for the company.

David Chung - Lehman Brothers

Analyst

But would you comment a little bit on that overall market and how that is looking, in general, is it, from your perspective, how does that look?

Adrian Dillon

Management

The market in Japan generally has been slow growth and we have been increasing our shares, don't mention because we've been essentially new entrants on the Masbeth side. On the [ICPMS] side, there has been some pretty good strength as we consolidating our 100% ownership of that business and part of its also going along, I think, I mentioned in my comments, is that there is some transfer going on from Japan to China and we see both sides of that handoff and that's part of the reason for the underlying strength that we are seeing in our China business as their productivity is transferred from and pharma if you were to CROs and CMOs in China.

David Chung - Lehman Brothers

Analyst

Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is follow up from the line of John Wood of Bank of America Securities. Please proceed.

John Wood - Bank of America Securities

Analyst

Okay, thanks, so you mentioned that $21 million of comps shifted into Q1, yet on the last call, I believe you forecasted for $32 million, am I looking at the right apples-to-apples numbers there or?

Adrian Dillon

Management

You are right, John, we overestimated when we started with this size and distribution of the comp that turned out to be closer to $21 million.

John Wood - Bank of America Securities

Analyst

Okay. So could that be driving some of the confusion on the 2Q '08 EPS guidance and therefore less of a benefit, if you will?

Adrian Dillon

Management

Only you know what's in your models but that certainly could be the case, we would say at this point that Q2 benefit is more in line of $0.02 to $0.025 with the remainder being in the second half.

John Wood - Bank of America Securities

Analyst

Okay. All right. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ajit Pai of Thomas Weisel Partners. Please proceed.

Ajit Pai - Thomas Weisel Partners

Analyst

Yeah. Good afternoon.

Adrian Dillon

Management

Hi, Ajit.

Ajit Pai - Thomas Weisel Partners

Analyst

Couple of quick questions, I think the first one, at just looking at your margins, you have talked about how most of the declining margins is associated with Stratagene, and you've also talked about the expense line increasing because of currency. Excluding the impact of those two, could you give us some color as to whether you are seeing any inflationary pressures, either in wage in local currency terms or in raw materials over the past three to four months that you, trend that you see continuing.

Adrian Dillon

Management

No. We have seen no change in the trend of wage increases or inflationary pressures around the world once you take out the impact of currency.

Ajit Pai - Thomas Weisel Partners

Analyst

Okay.

Bill Sullivan

Management

And as we have also mentioned historically from our legacy, we intended to be a high stakes cost company and over the last few years, and this year is the first full year we have consciously increased the bearable component of our pay, which is tied to performance of the company, which needless to say puts some pressure on our fixed cost structure.

Ajit Pai - Thomas Weisel Partners

Analyst

Got it. And then when you are looking at your, the growth that you have seen in China and India, I think, could you give us, if you do have some color, could you give us some color as to how much of that is driven by local demand and how much of that is driven by ex spot oriented demand? For example, the food shifting back, food testing back to China would be considered ex spot oriented. So very broadly, do you have some color on that?

Bill Sullivan

Management

In terms of India, again, just kind of got back a few weeks ago from India, it is obviously the most international activity that’s going on but this enormous amount of indigenous work going on in terms of the regime there the contract resource organizations are moving forward and even in lot of the food safety government what not, we are just seeing really solid growth and again that is why we have been expanding our resources in India so rapidly whereas just there we are opening up what will be the largest analytical lab for Agilent in Bangalore, we did have the grand opening. And so it is a real mix between the multi international as well as the local. In terms of China, again a lot of it is multi international and the corresponding contractors and smaller companies that support that effort in course that move forward. But you are seeing the emergence of many of the larger telecom companies and obviously a lot of investment by the government in the Olympics to their Environmental Protection Agency, in to their Food and Drug Administration to help drive this and again I don’t have the actual numbers in my mind. But I would think that India is slightly ahead indigenously versus China. But again don't -- it is just [get the mike forward].

Ajit Pai - Thomas Weisel Partners

Analyst

Okay. And then just looking in the network monitoring business. Could you give us some idea as to what the catalyst would be, not necessarily for Agilent to say, but to the overall spending and the data increase and what is the mix is on the wireless -- between wireless and wireline there?

Bill Sullivan

Management

The catalyst is the conversion to an all IP network of which basically wireless and wireline technically will be transparent, right. I mean you are going to have this internet protocol other than data collection point sort of stake the base station. And so that is the change, there is the much harder network to assure quality of assurance. There is, when you have a dramatically increasing ability to generate more data. How does that data get managed? How do you analyze the data? So that is the big opportunity that we see and our competitors see as well.

Ajit Pai - Thomas Weisel Partners

Analyst

And when do you expect that to start taking off?

Bill Sullivan

Management

It is already progressing, it is already progressing now and the point that you read about the most are birth of the whole like IPTV and all that, it where a lot of investment that is, if you're seeing across the board and people migrate their networks and again, those things always go forward than you expect. The networks today are still dominated by ATM but again I -- in the process of happening.

Ajit Pai - Thomas Weisel Partners

Analyst

Okay, and then the $237 million used in share purchases, could you give us some, an idea of what the average share price was and then also again, what the strategy over there is in a go forward basis and the ending share count at the end of the quarter?

Adrian Dillon

Management

The average share price in the quarter was roughly 35 and we ended up at 382 million of shares at the end of the quarter.

Ajit Pai - Thomas Weisel Partners

Analyst

Okay and going forward do you continue to expect to be aggressive in the share buyback?

Adrian Dillon

Management

Going forward we should assume that we are going to do a $1 million annual rate and we will take advantage of pressures but not try to be [too hard on costs].

Ajit Pai - Thomas Weisel Partners

Analyst

Okay and the restricted cash that you've shifted to the short-term, are there any tax implications in case you have a call over there, I think, some of this cash is restricted overseas?

Adrian Dillon

Management

No.

Ajit Pai - Thomas Weisel Partners

Analyst

Okay.

Adrian Dillon

Management

Most of that cash is restricted to the debt of 1.6 is the over collateralized cash restricted for the $1.5 [billion] debt.

Ajit Pai - Thomas Weisel Partners

Analyst

And both of them, once they move to the current and in case, there is a call on the debt, if there is anything that has to -- I mean you can satisfy it locally as well?

Adrian Dillon

Management

Yes.

Ajit Pai - Thomas Weisel Partners

Analyst

Okay, thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

And your final question is a follow up from the line of Will Stein.

Will Stein - Credit Suisse

Analyst

Thanks guys, just curious about the stock comps expense from the quarter, I think it came in a bit little higher than we expected and I'm wondering what we should expect that to be going forward?

Adrian Dillon

Management

Well, it came in exactly as we thought it would, it was $30 million.

Will Stein - Credit Suisse

Analyst

Okay.

Adrian Dillon

Management

And we expect to be about $19 million in the second quarter, $18 million in the third quarter and $17 million in the fourth quarter about $85 million for the year exactly as we had guided.

Will Stein - Credit Suisse

Analyst

Okay I must have missed that and fiscal '09 and generally speaking going forward in a similar pattern?

Adrian Dillon

Management

Yes there is the issue around the employees stock purchase program on how the accounts sometimes will require us to in essence double depreciate the first year take three quarters of the expenses in the initial year of that we're not to 2009 yet but in the economic perspective you should assume this is sort of a pattern.

Will Stein - Credit Suisse

Analyst

Great. Thank you

Operator

Operator

That does conclude our question-and-answer session. I will now turn it back to Mr. Gonsalves for closing remarks.

Rodney Gonsalves

Management

Thank you Michelle. Okay on the line we want to thank you on the behalf of management team for joining us today. Have a good evening.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen thank you for your participation in today’s conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect. Have a good day.