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Q3 2008 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 14, 2008

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Agilent Technologies Incorporated third quarter 2008 earnings conference call. My name is Michelle and I will be your coordinator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. We will be facilitating a question-and-answer session towards the end of today's conference. (Operator instructions) As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the presentation over to your host for today's call, Mr. Rodney Gonsalves, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please proceed.

Rodney Gonsalves

Management

Thank you and welcome to Agilent's third quarter conference call for FY 2008. With me are Agilent's President and CEO, Bill Sullivan; and Executive Vice President of Finance and Administration and CFO, Adrian Dillon. After my introductory comments, Bill will give his perspective on the quarter and the business environment. Adrian will follow with his review of the financials and the performance of each of the businesses. After Adrian’s comments, we will open the lines and take your questions. In case you have not had a chance to review our press release, you can find it on our web site at www.investor.agilent.com. We are also providing further information to supplement today’s discussion. After you log on to our webcast module from our web site, you can click on the link for supplemental information. You will find additional information such as our end market revenue breakout and historical financial information for Agilent's continuing operations. In accordance with SEC Regulation G, if during this conference call we use any non-GAAP financial measures, you will find on our web site the required reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. In addition, I would like to remind you that we will make forward-looking statements about the future financial performance of the company that involves risks and uncertainties. These risks and uncertainties could cause Agilent's results to differ materially from management’s current expectations. We encourage you to look at the company’s most recent filings with the SEC to get the most complete picture of all the factors at work. The forward-looking statements, including guidance provided during today’s call are only valid as of this date and the company assumes no obligation to update such statements as we move through the current quarter. Lastly, I want to remind everybody on today's call that Agilent is now including share-based compensation in both its segment and pro forma results. We have restated our historical results to reflect the changes and those restatements are available on our web site. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Bill.

Bill Sullivan

Management

Thanks, Rodney, and hello everyone. Agilent delivered solid financial results for Q3 despite a difficult economic environment. These results are a testament to our focus, discipline, and the strength of our operating model. Q3 orders were up 6% over last year. Revenues for the quarter were up 5% year-over-year. Operating margins reached 16.5% in ROIC with 27% – a record in Agilent's history. Q3 adjusted net income was $198 million or $0.53 per share including share-based compensation, just above the high-end of our expectations. As we stated last quarter, we will now include share-based compensation in our adjusted net income. Therefore as a reference, our Q3 adjusted net income including $18 million of share-based compensation. Without the $18 million of share-based compensation, third quarter adjusted net income with $0.57 per share which was above the guidance of $0.52 to $0.56 per share. All of our future guidance will include share-based compensation. Cash generated from operations during the quarter was $169 million. The company repurchased $250 million of its common stock in Q3 and paid $41 million for acquisitions. In our bio-analytical measurement business, Q3 results reflected good growth across both chemical analysis and life science. In life sciences, we saw significant growth in the academic and government markets while pharma and biotech was flat organically. In chemical analysis, double-digit growth in food safety and petrochemical markets offset flat environmental revenues. We saw a surge in orders across bio-analytical measurement toward the end of Q3 which gives us good revenue momentum going into Q4. In our electronic measurement business, wireless manufacturing and broadband R&D showed strong growth. This was offset by ongoing weakness in the computer and semiconductor markets. Revenues were basically flat in electronic measurement compared with last year. The tight control of operating expenses and aggressive asset management enabled…

Adrian Dillon

Management

Thank you, Bill. Good afternoon everyone. I’m going to offer a few overall perspectives on the quarter for Agilent, review the performance of our two business segments, and conclude with some thoughts about guidance for the fourth quarter of this year and the first quarter of fiscal ’09. Then I’d turn it back to Rodney for Q&A. As Bill suggested in our press release, the power of Agilent’s operating model was clearly evident in Agilent’s third quarter performance. Economic conditions were difficult in much of the developed world and third quarter revenues came in at the low end of our expectations, but we were able to quickly adapt to the changing economic environment and our adjusted net earnings came in just above the high end our guidance. Third quarter orders were up 6% from one year ago and revenues were up 5%. By segment, market trends were very similar to the first half with bio-analytical measurement revenues up 13% or 10% excluding acquisitions, and electronic measurement was up less than 1%. Geographically, revenues were up 5% in the Americas and were 9% higher in Europe, although the European gain was mostly from currency. Trends in Asia varied widely. Consistent with the announcement earlier this week on Japan’s declining second quarter GDP, our third quarter revenues in Japan were down 2%. Taiwan and Korea were even weaker, down 18% and 31% respectively, although some of that declines reflects the continued shift of manufacturing to lower cost countries. On the other hand, India and China continued strong, up 15% and 23% respectively. Overall, third quarter revenues of $1.44 billion were 5% above last year and up 1% in local currency terms. Operating earnings of $0.53 per share were up 23% and include $18 million or $0.04 per share of stock-based compensation expense.…

Rodney Gonsalves

Management

Thanks, Adrian. Michelle, please go ahead and give instructions for the Q&A.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. (Operator instructions) And your first question comes from the line of Jon Wood of Banc of America Securities. Please proceed. Jon Wood – Banc of America Securities: Hey thanks a lot. Bill, the surgeon orders in bio-analytical you referenced, is that related to the new triple quads, the Q-TOFs you launched at ASMS? Can you give us some sense on when those instruments will ship and then just generally where you saw the strength in the bio-analytical orders?

Bill Sullivan

Management

Strength of the bio-analytical orders was across the board. We believe that we continued to make great progress on our high-end mass spec and we will be shipping those products in Q4. Jon Wood – Banc of America Securities: Okay, great. And then, Adrian, on the capital structure, any clarity there on financing options? I know you’ve got a while until the amended facility expires.

Adrian Dillon

Management

Yes, Jon, thanks for that question because I think there’s been some misunderstanding about that refinancing. We delayed the refinancing for three reasons. One, we felt that as financial markets settle down we would be able to get better terms. Two, as we continue to demonstrate the great performance of Agilent’s operating model, we would continue to get better terms, and as the rating agencies continue to see the kind of cash that we are generating, they would continue to react positively. So this was very much a conscious decision on our part to delay that refinancing. It is under very good control and we expect to firm that up in the next month. Jon Wood – Banc of America Securities: Okay, thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Deane Dray of Goldman Sachs. Please proceed. Deane Dray – Goldman Sachs: Thank you, good afternoon. If I’m not mistaken it was a year ago that you also had some soft orders in electronic measurement in Japan, so just kind of talk us through how the quarter developed, what your confidence is about next quarter and how this compares to that slowdown you saw a year ago?

Bill Sullivan

Management

I think the situation in Japan again continues to be related to the semiconductor-related business and not only parametric tests at semiconductor but as well as Adrian said, component test. Our network analyzers are the predominant instrument in the sub-assemblies for RF microwave devices. We are also seeing evidence that we believe that some of the suppliers in Japan are not winning market share on the wireless side. So again, a different color or a different view than before. The second issue which we talked about is the aerospace and defense business in the US has been delayed; it has been related to the appropriation process. We believe that the army has been appropriated, so we know that some of the orders that we expected in Q3 are going to come into Q4. And again assuming the other armed forces will also get the normal appropriation and my understanding is it's quite typical in election year. So that’s why we have confidence that aerospace and defense business that was flat this quarter will improve next quarter. Again, as I’ve talked about in the past, we have a very thorough funnel process. We know what our win/loss rate is. So assuming no major change in the overall economy, we are very comfortable with where we believe our electronic measurement business will be in Q4. Deane Dray – Goldman Sachs: And just to make sure I understand the comment on the softness in Japan were on semiconductor and computer because chemical analysis looked quite strong, so you can’t – it doesn’t sound as though this was an economic impact, is that correct?

Adrian Dillon

Management

Well, it’s an economic impact to a part of the market being semiconductor related – semiconductor component related business which, of course, is a much different market than the chemical analysis or life science market. Deane Dray – Goldman Sachs: Sure. And Bill, just to clarify the comment with electronic measurement order that was cancelled for convenience, is that what you just referenced?

Bill Sullivan

Management

That’s what Adrian had referenced. No, what I was referencing is that we expected a higher order rate in aerospace and defense in Q3. We know the orders are there. The orders did not come in but they will come in Q4. So that is – you had asked what is our confidence going forward in electronic measurement in Q4. We believe the aerospace and defense business will be here in the fourth quarter. What Adrian had referenced is that we had bid and won a large contract with the military, of which due to a change of specifications, change of requirements, they cancelled for convenience and we will re-bid and have an opportunity to re-win that contract, nothing to do from our standpoint, their change. That is a different issue than the fundamental investment that the Department of Defense would make in instrumentation on a yearly basis, typically at the end of Q3 and into Q4. Deane Dray – Goldman Sachs: Great. And the just last question and Adrian, I'll serve this one to you. Just give us a sense – we were surprised also by the cost structure this quarter and is this what we’re seeing the benefits of the changes and more variability to your cost structure? I know you worked hard and focused here on more variability, but is that the benefit here?

Adrian Dillon

Management

Yes, Dean. It very much is. We were able to vary the cost structure quite nimbly. In fact, maybe even a little more nimbly than we thought. It is a result of really great attention by the teams to their costs and ability to pretty surgically distinguish between what’s important for getting the orders in the business and products out this quarter and obviously continuing to spend on that, and what is discretionary are postponable and stopping that. So the teams have a super job; it is a manifestation of the much more variable and flexible Agilent cost model.

Bill Sullivan

Management

And we have talked many times; we have fundamentally changed the fixed/variable model or outsourcing model over the last three years and this is probably the best testament we can have in a quarter where revenue was slightly below our expectations. We worked very quickly to be able to dial back the expense structure and in fact beat the high-end of expectations or our guidance. Deane Dray – Goldman Sachs: Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of William Stein of Credit Suisse. Please proceed. William Stein – Credit Suisse: Thanks. I’m wondering, with the new variability and the model, it seems to be even surprising you guys to be upside and also the change including the FAS 123 charges. Any change to the target organ structure that you’ve laid out in the past at the Analyst Days?

Adrian Dillon

Management

Yes. Will, this is Adrian. In fact, what we have just done is improve or move to the right our targeted operating model. The impact of 123R is to, other things being equal, lower our trend ROIC by 2 to 3 points. We did not lower our targeted model by 2 to 3 points in essence; what we’re saying is this company is now on a secular basis 2 to 3 points more profitable than we had committed to in the past. William Stein – Credit Suisse: Okay, great. And can you also touch on the foreign exchange exposure? You mentioned it a bit – I think you said sales on constant currency would have been up 1% year-over-year. Can you just remind us whether there’s any transaction risk or is it just translation and what currencies you’re exposed to?

Adrian Dillon

Management

Yes. Well, we have a very diversified – well-diversified cost model and so even without material hedging, we are naturally hedged. It has always been a strength of the company to have production as close to the customer as possible and to be diversified geographically. So in this quarter, for example, we did have 4 points of revenue growth due to currency but the impact on the bottom line was literally zero. So, what are we exposed to? On balance, not much. It’s only when we get one currency going in a very different direction from all the rest that you can get the occasional mismatch. But again, to guard against that, we also hedge on a short-term basis to isolate that potential volatility. William Stein – Credit Suisse: Okay. Just one other quick one on the military order or the aerospace order that was canceled for convenience, can you give us an idea as to the size of that, what the expected timing was on delivery, and whether there was a competitive issue there?

Bill Sullivan

Management

No.

Adrian Dillon

Management

The size of the order was about $24 million. It was a multi-year order, meaning over the next two to three years, it was going to be delivered. It was not competitive and it was a case of where the military canceled it for convenience, the spec was not – did not work out the way they wanted it to and so they have withdrawn that contract and reconfigured it, and it will be re-bid we believe in the fourth quarter and we believe we have a very good opportunity to win that business again.

Bill Sullivan

Management

Again, we were very proactive in terms of saying that this turns out to be not the right product for what they really wanted in the applications and some of these things happened, but all of us as taxpayers I think the end result was the appropriate one. William Stein – Credit Suisse: Great. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line Mark Zepf of Goldman Sachs. Please proceed.

Bill Sullivan

Management

Hello?

Operator

Operator

It looks like you’ve dropped out of the queue. And you’re next question comes from the line of Terence Whalen of Citi Investment Research. Please proceed. Terence Whalen – Citi Investment Research: Thanks. This one is actually a clarification for Adrian. Adrian, I think you said aerospace and defense was flat, computers and semi down 28%, and then what was the growth rate of other general industry to round out general purpose?

Adrian Dillon

Management

Zero. Flat. Terence Whalen – Citi Investment Research: Okay, great. And then in regard to the segment, it looks like computer and semi, you've had four quarters straight of roughly 20% decline, so next quarter presumably we should see an easier comparison. Would you actually expect that business to grow year-on-year next quarter?

Adrian Dillon

Management

Next quarter might be a little bit early and I don’t have the numbers in front of me. I think your general assertion that we are bottoming out in the semiconductor equipment market I think is correct or at least we share that. We’re not counting on a quick turnaround in that market but when you have the semiconductor industry itself growing 8% as it is this year, and have a 20% to 25% decline in equipment purchases, the net result is that utilization rates gradually are improving and the normal cyclicality would suggest the beginning of a new upturn sometime next year.

Bill Sullivan

Management

We’re in a very strong competitive position and so it’s not the issue of competitive position or product offerings, it’s all in the fab utilization. Going forward we’re assuming – we’re not banking on improvement there and if it does happen next year, again that’s obviously upside potential. Terence Whalen – Citi Investment Research: Sure. And then two other quick ones on EM and I think wireless R&D was also flat, first quarter that really hasn’t grown. It had a tough comparison. I think you had mentioned a pause in WiMAX spending. Is that something you think is a one-quarter phenomenon and that we will get a bounce back next quarter like we will in aero and defense?

Bill Sullivan

Management

Again, I don’t want to be the one to predict where WiMAX is moving forward but right now, from our view point, the acceleration is in the LTE side in terms of investment in R&D and we’re just in a great position to capitalize with the increased focus on rolling out LTE around the world. Terence Whalen – Citi Investment Research: Okay. And then, I know we’re not yet talking about ’09 but given that you did sort of preface with 1Q ’09 guidance, I thought I’d take a shot at this last one. As we think about the difficult EM environment with some slowdown in the select Asian countries and in semis in particular, and just sort of a weak general environment as well, and then we see actually decent communications growth from you but some weakness at some communications test competitors, what do you think – sort of looking toward the full-year next year, what’s a reasonable level of growth for the electronic measurement business? Is it going to be within the bracketed 4% to 8% target? Is it going to be a little bit below that or is it going to be a flattish business?

Bill Sullivan

Management

I know we are going into 2009 with a very conservative approach of a 4% to 5% growth rate and ensure that we do the things that I described in terms of focused R&D efforts, leveraging our worldwide manufacturing footprint to ensure that we can continue increase earnings with a very conservative expectation of next year. Terence Whalen – Citi Investment Research: Okay. Appreciate the time and good luck.

Adrian Dillon

Management

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line Rob Mason of Robert W. Baird. Please proceed. Rob Mason – Robert W. Baird: Bill, if I could just clarify that last comment, you said 4% to 5%, would that be a consolidated growth rate?

Bill Sullivan

Management

That’s the election measurement. Rob Mason – Robert W. Baird: Just for EM. Okay. And so would you think that, one, I guess as we start out the fourth quarter given the backlog that you have in the bio-analytical piece, high single-digits and perhaps double-digit growth even despite some tough revenue comparisons, those would be in your guidance. Your ability for bio-analytical to continue to grow at a high single-digit, double-digit rate despite the tougher comparisons?

Bill Sullivan

Management

As you know, we’re a conservative company. We will take a conservative position moving forward, exclusive of acquisitions, high single-digits I think is appropriate way to look at it. We have to also be careful that if there is continued slowdown, it will in fact affect the analytical markets. We’re obviously making enormous investment in this area but I think in terms of taking a conservative approach next year, I think that that was a fair estimate and again we are absolutely committed to continuing to drive improvement in our operating income. Rob Mason – Robert W. Baird: Okay. And then just sticking with bio-analytical, the source of the gross margin expansion that you saw year-over-year, did that come from the life sciences side or was that from the chemical analysis segment?

Adrian Dillon

Management

Both.

Bill Sullivan

Management

Both. Rob Mason – Robert W. Baird: Both. And then maybe just last question here. You mentioned your ability to reign in expenses on fairly short notice as the quarter played out. Could you, Adrian, just assess the ability to maintain that operating expense discipline to the extent some of the curtailment was discretionary, how sustainable would that be if things remain kind of mixed environment?

Adrian Dillon

Management

We remain absolutely committed to our 30% to 40% incremental operating model and I think we have the ability to do that, fairly indefinitely. If anything, anything we sort of overshot it this time, but it really demonstrated the ability to modulate our expense structure when we need to, but I am quite confident that we will be able to manage our cost structure within the opportunities we get in the marketplace. Rob Mason – Robert W. Baird: Okay. And just maybe one last, your comment, your guidance regarding FAS 123 for the first quarter of ’09, $28 million, should we expect that that will not be the run rate for the balance of ’09?

Adrian Dillon

Management

That is correct. We expect next year’s total 123R expense to be in the same range as this year which is about $85 million. Rob Mason – Robert W. Baird: Okay. Very good. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

(Operator instructions) And your next question comes from the line of Ajit Pai of Thomas Weisel Partners. Please proceed. Ajit Pai – Thomas Weisel Partners: Yes, good afternoon.

Bill Sullivan

Management

Hello.

Adrian Dillon

Management

Hi, Ajit. Ajit Pai – Thomas Weisel Partners: First, a quick housekeeping question, which is the $18 million in share-based compensation, can you break that down for us by line item and then also by the two segments?

Bill Sullivan

Management

Not over the phone, Ajit. But – Ajit Pai – Thomas Weisel Partners: Okay, so we’ll get that later. The second is just looking at the wireline part of your business, the color that you provided in terms of some growth rates over there was actually very encouraging and I think you specifically called out some 10 gig and 40 gig, etc., could you give us some color as to what percentage of your electronic measurement business that is right now, what the size of that business is and whether it has potential to offset some of the weakness you’re seeing in the other markets?

Bill Sullivan

Management

Broadband R&D manufacturing is 3% of the company. We would love to see that go back what it was in 2001. I still believe that the likelihood of that is low but – zero as Adrian just said – but the investment in these higher speed wireline applications continues to accelerate and we made some small acquisitions in this area. We’ve always had a very strong optical capability that we kept since the telecom crash and so we’re aggressively pursuing this business. Do I think that in the short term it's going to compensate for some of the other difficulties in semiconductor, it will help but it won’t fully compensate. Ajit Pai – Thomas Weisel Partners: Got it and then there are two other initiatives that you’d highlighted for the electronic measurement business a couple of years ago, I think the synthetic instrumentation was one growth driver and then the second one was your sort of handheld instrumentation. Now on the synthetic side, I think that was – large part of that was targeting I think aerospace and defense markets. I'm not sure how that's doing, could you give us some color there? And then on the handheld side, could you tell us what has happened at the channel? What kind of successes you’ve had and whether it's also sort of a victim to the weakening markets that you’re seeing right now?

Bill Sullivan

Management

In terms of the synthetic instrumentation, we continue be a leader in this area. But as you said, the focus is with aerospace and defense. So the slowdown in aerospace and defense, which again is more budget driven than a competitive situation kind of swamps out where we are in terms of synthetic instrumentation. In terms of our basic instrumentation efforts, we continue to move aggressively in that area. Our distribution growth continues in double digits and we believe that we are making a real contribution to this market. The acquisition we made from Taiwan, not only does it add some products into this area but also additionally add some R&D capability to our teams in Southeast Asia, so we are fully committed to this and we will continue to provide differentiable products through this alternate channel as we move forward. Ajit Pai – Thomas Weisel Partners: Right and just looking at your operating margins like in this particular quarter, I think it’s probably a record for the July quarter, an all-time record for Agilent as a public company. Could you give us some color as to what are the businesses that still have potential to keep expanding margins or have we sort of reached a third quarter peak in this quarter, like on the life science side there are a large number of businesses that are pretty close to zero, very modest margins and how much higher can the operating margins over a period of time go to, and which are the business that are performing the most right now?

Bill Sullivan

Management

If you get electronic measurement, which again has a very nice margin expansion even with the revenue, the first order of fact is more top line revenue and given our expense structure and top line revenue we will get at least 30% to 40% increment that Adrian had talked about. We have made very good progress in this area in terms of getting our network instruments business back to profitability. We can always get it higher but we are making good progress in there. On the analytical side, it is really driving the acquisitions to our operating model. That is by far the biggest opportunity. It's just quite clear I think as Adrian explained, the incrementals on the analytical side that delta is the cost and the investment we’re making in integrating the acquisitions, so that is by far the number one opportunity for us to expand our margins on the analytical side. Ajit Pai – Thomas Weisel Partners: Got it and the use of the cash, I think you’ve talked about the basic which you’re doing is share buyback seems to have moderated a bit. Is it primarily related to the financing or the do you intend to match the pace of your share buybacks with the amount of stock you issue?

Adrian Dillon

Management

(inaudible) We did repurchase $250 million again in the third quarter and that’s three quarters of a billion for the year and by the end of this year we will have repurchased $1 billion. But we did have options exercises that were quite substantial this quarter and we had our employee stock purchase plan as well and the two of those combined contributed $114 million. So offset a good third of what we repurchased. Our commitment is and has been and continues to be that we will repurchase $1 billion this year and we'll repurchase another $1 billion in fiscal 2009. Ajit Pai – Thomas Weisel Partners: Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of William Stein of Credit Suisse. Please proceed. William Stein – Credit Suisse: Thanks. Just a couple of housekeeping questions. Tax rate, I think you said that you took the full-year estimate down. Can you talk to us about Q4 and for fiscal ‘09, what we should be modeling for both GAAP and non-GAAP taxes, please?

Adrian Dillon

Management

20% for the pro forma tax rate from this point forward and 18% for the GAAP tax rate. William Stein – Credit Suisse: Great. Then, I guess, I’ll take an opportunity to ask one more. Can you talk to us a bit about the competitive environment on both sides of the business?

Adrian Dillon

Management

I’m sorry? William Stein – Credit Suisse: Can you talk to us a bit about the competitive environment? Obviously we’re in a weak macro situation and you’re seeing a little bit shortfall on the top line but doing very well on margins. Can you talk to us about how competitive pressures may be affecting top line or are you – do you feel you’re taking share in this environment or just holding your own? Any comment on both sides of the business will be helpful.

Bill Sullivan

Management

I think the first order for that quarter and some of this is mix and structural. Again, our mix as a business can be quite different than our competitors that we clearly held our own and evidence that we gained market share in some of our product platforms. The competitive nature, of course and I’ve talked about in the past, is first of all getting the order out. Companies become more and more conservative in order they book in a day, takes a week, a week takes a month, and so. There’s just a lot more effort to get the capital investment out and on some of the big deals where you have competitive bids, there’s a lot of pressure to be more competitive. We’ve been very fortunate that vast majority of the time we get the last look and so as a result get the best price. But each of these larger opportunities are very competitively bid and we not only have to have best solution, we've got to have the value-added solution.

Adrian Dillon

Management

I’d add just one thing and I think it’s true on both sides of the house. These are good markets to be participating in, even when you have a very competitive environment and softness as we do in some parts of electronic measurement; it still is the capability of the instrument, the quality of the service, the quality of the solution, the global support that wins the business, not the price. The price is number five in a list of the top-five criteria. That’s true, even more true if anything, on the bio-analytic side, where it really does come down to "do you have the best work flow solution, do you have the best sensitivity of the instrument, do you have the tradition of global service," and that really does make the difference. So, I think that’s reflected – one would be hard pressed to suggest that in this kind of driven environment, we’d be at all time operating margins and yet here we are. William Stein – Credit Suisse: Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

That does conclude the question-and-answer session. I will now turn it back to Mr. Rodney Gonsalves for closing remarks.

Rodney Gonsalves

Management

Thank you, Michelle. To everyone on the line, we want to thank you on behalf of the management team for joining us today and we look forward to speaking with you again soon. Again, thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today’s conference. This does conclude the presentation. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.