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Operator
Operator
Good afternoon. I will be your conference operator. At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the Applied Optoelectronics’ First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator instructions] Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Lindsay Savarese, Investor Relations for AOI. Ms. Savarese you may begin.
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Lindsay Savarese
Analyst
Thank you. I'm Lindsay Savarese, Investor Relations for Applied Optoelectronics. And I'm pleased to welcome you to AOI's first quarter 2023 financial results conference call. After the market closed today, AOI issued a press release announcing its first quarter 2023 financial results and provided its outlook for the second quarter of 2023. The release is also available on the company's website at ao-inc.com. This call is being recorded and webcast live. A link to the recording can be found on the Investor Relations section of the AOI website and will be archived for one year. Joining us on today's call is Dr. Thompson Lin, AOI's Founder, Chairman, and CEO; and Dr. Stefan Murry, AOI's Chief Financial Officer and Chief Strategy Officer. Thompson will give an overview of AOI's Q1 results, and Stefan will provide financial details and the outlook for the second quarter of 2023. A question-and-answer session will follow our prepared remarks. Before we begin, I would like to remind you to review AOI's Safe Harbor statement. On today's call, management will make forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties as well as assumptions and current expectations, which could cause the company's actual results, levels of activity, performance or achievements of the company, or its industry to differ materially from those expressed or implied in such forward-looking statements. In some cases, you can identify forward-looking statements by terminologies such as believes, anticipates, estimates, intends, predicts, expects, plans, may, should, could, would, will, potential or thinks or by the negative of those terms or other similar expressions that convey uncertainty of future events or outcomes. The company has based these forward-looking statements on its current expectations, assumptions, estimates and projections. While the company believes these expectations, assumptions, estimates and projections are reasonable, such forward-looking statements are only predictions…
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Thompson Lin
Analyst
Thank you, Lindsay. And thank you for joining our call today. Our first quarter revenue and non-GAAP gross margin were in line with our expectations, while our non-GAAP loss per share can be below our expectations due mainly to unexpected foreign exchange losses, due to faster than expected appreciation of the Chinese RMB currency relative to U.S. dollar. We are pleased by the progress we have made on the improvement of our gross margin, and are encouraged by improving demand we saw for our 100G products in our datacenter business, during Q1. We generated another quarter of good CATV results. However, recently we were notified of some inventory build-up with certain CATV customers which we expect will negatively impact our Q2 revenue. During the first quarter we delivered revenue of $53 million in line with our credit range of $52 million to $55 million. We delivered non-GAAP gross margin of 23.2% in line with our credit range of 23% to 24% driven by our target cost reduction and favorable product mix non-GAAP net loss per share was $0.25, below credit range of a loss of $0.15 to $0.19, due to the foreign exchange impacts I just mentioned. Total revenue in our CATV segment was $27.8 million, up 11% year-over-year and down 27% sequentially of the record Q4, largely due to the negative impact by the loss of production days that occurred during the Lunar New Year holidays in China. Total revenue for our data center product of $20.4 million, decrease 5% year-over-year and increased 23% sequentially, largely due to the increased demand for our 100G products. On our last call, we discussed an agreement we have signed with a major hyperscale datacenter operator for a development program to make next generation lasers for each data center, both for 400G and beyond. I’ll do some 8-K filing to give additional details on this agreement with Microsoft, who has been a long term key customer of ours. While the development of new products will take several quarters to be complete, review this contract award as validation of the strength and the quality of our core laser fabrication ability. With that, I will turn call over to Stefan to review the details of our Q1 performance and outlook for Q2. Stephen?
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Stefan Murry
Analyst
Thank you, Thompson. Our first quarter revenue and non-GAAP gross margin were in line with our expectations. While our non-GAAP loss per share came in wider than our expectations due mainly to unexpected foreign exchange losses due to faster than expected appreciation of the Chinese renminbi currency relative to the U.S. dollar. We're pleased by the continued progress we have made to improve our gross margin and are encouraged by the increased demand we saw for our 100G products in our data center business during Q1. Further, we generated another quarter of good CATV results. However, recently we were notified of some inventory build-up with certain CATV customers, which we expect will negatively impact our Q2 revenue. Before turning to discuss our results and outlook, I want to provide an update on the transaction that we announced last September with Yuhan Optoelectronic Technology. As we have previously discussed, we entered into an agreement with Yuhan Optoelectronic Technology for the sale of our manufacturing facilities located in the People's Republic of China and certain assets related to our transceiver business and multi-channel optical sub-assembly products for the datacenter, telecom and FTTH markets for a purchase price of $150 million. During the quarter both AOI and Yuhan made progress in preparing the information that will be needed in order to file for the various regulatory approvals that will be required in order to finalize the divestiture. As a reminder, this transaction is subject to customary closing conditions and regulatory approvals, including CFIUS and ODI. Although these filings are not yet complete, we do expect to submit our application within the next few months. The timing of the regulatory process is uncertain, but we believe based on our current schedule that closing the transaction before year end is still possible, although approval could…
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Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Simon Leopold with Raymond James. Please go ahead.
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Simon Leopold
Analyst
Great. Thanks. Thanks for taking the question. So a couple things I wanted to get a little bit of better insight on. One is around this, this Microsoft deal in terms of, I understand you're going to get some – some R&D funding in the fourth quarter, but can you give us some other indication of the scope of this arrangement and if it's affected at all by the transaction – the pending transaction of the asset sale in China? Because I guess I saw some language about change of control, which I assume means the entire company. Just a little clarification there would be helpful?
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Thompson Lin
Analyst
Sure, Simon. Regarding your first question with respect to kind of the scope of it, the announcement that we – that we made really in December, but recently released more of the details on it has to do with the fabrication of a new type of laser device that's going to be used in the creation of certain data center transmission products for use within Microsoft's data center specifically for 400G and beyond as we noted in our prepared remarks. As we also said, we think that it starts to ramp really later on this year and then should grow along with the future 400G deployments into 2024 and beyond. With respect to your second question regarding, does anything change with respect to the transaction? Clearly given the timeframe of this announcement and everything, it was subsequent to the announcement of the transaction so clearly Microsoft was aware of the transaction and the details that we presented about that transaction. So no, nothing – nothing changes with respect to that. With respect to the change of control, you can read the provisions there that does refer to changing control of the entire company, which this transaction would not, I mean, that transaction alone would not represent a change of control of the company based on our analysis so far.
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Simon Leopold
Analyst
That's what I thought. I want that – that's what I was checking exactly that. So thank you for that. And then the other thing I wanted to ask about was your debt schedule because I believe you've got $53 million that was current last quarter and now the total current debt I think is over – is around $130 million. Could you help me understand sort of the roadmap or plan to how you're going to pay down debt?
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Stefan Murry
Analyst
Yes. I mean, I think the transaction that we noted, the proceeds from that should be $150 million minus some amount of holdback, and that certainly gives us the ability to service that debt in the timeframe in which it's going to come due. Of course we're also exploring other options in terms of other things that might be possible if that transaction gets pushed out or what have you. But certainly the cash from the transaction would be very instrumental to servicing that debt.
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Simon Leopold
Analyst
So is there a scenario where you'd get maybe a bridge loan if, if essentially the – I guess there's 50 some odd million that comes due during this year, calendar this county year. So if the deal with, [indiscernible] doesn't close until next year, you'd have a gap, am I misunderstanding that?
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Thompson Lin
Analyst
Well a lot of that – a lot of the debt and this has been – this has been true for our company for a long time. A lot of the debt that we have is in Asia excluding the convertible debt of course, and the Asian debt tends to revolve on an annual basis and it's generally always revolved. It's often backed by assets that we have in Asia our real estate for example, or property plant equipment over there. And so it's always had the ability to revolve and we would continue to expect that it does that. So yes, it does show up as a current liability, but it almost always shows up as a current liability and it just kind of rolls over and that's again, what we would expect this year. With respect to your question about could you get a bridge loan or are there options? Sure, there is lots of things that we could do to enhance the liquidity if things don't go according to plan, but with respect to the majority of that debt, that's what we would expect.
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Simon Leopold
Analyst
Great. No, I appreciate that. I have not really thought about the rollover of the Asian finances. That's helpful. And then just the last one from me is if you could talk about your plans and expectations for 1.8 gigahertz amplifiers for the cable TV market.
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Stefan Murry
Analyst
Right. So we mentioned in our prepared marks that we do think that DOCSIS 4.0 is the next generation in cable TV and the various MSOs have been pretty explicit with us, but also publicly with respect to their plans to upgrade their networks using DOCSIS 4.0. Now depending on which MSO you are talking about I would say the majority of the MSOs are planning to go to 1.8 gigahertz. There are some others that are still looking at for example, FDX, Full Duplex DOCSIS, or other technologies. But I would say that the predominant technology that seems to be preferred by most of the MSOs is 1.8 gigahertz. Now we've had an active development program ongoing for 1.8 gigahertz for some time. And we're proceeding well according to our plans on that. As we noted in our prepared remarks, we've had numerous discussions with the major MSOs that we expect to deploy this technology, again as early as later this year. And we feel like we are pretty well positioned for that technology.
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Simon Leopold
Analyst
Great. Thanks for taking the questions.
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Stefan Murry
Analyst
My pleasure.
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Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Tim Savageaux with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
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Tim Savageaux
Analyst · Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Hi, good afternoon. Excuse me. A couple of questions. First, I think you mentioned an NRE payment associated with the Microsoft deal of $3 million, but maybe some numbers beyond that. Do you have kind of a sense of the total kind of value there? And then separately on the cable side, I know your top customer there has brought up another contract manufacturer in recent months and quarters. Can you discern whether that may be having an impact, or whether it's all kind of customer inventory driven? Thanks.
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Stefan Murry
Analyst · Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
So, with respect to the question about the Microsoft NRE, so it's a total of $4 million for this particular tranche of NRE of which $3 million has already been paid as we noted. And, we actually will record that as revenue throughout the year. It's right now most of that $3 million that's already been paid is in a prepaid asset. Because we'll recognize that according to the revenue recognition rules as the project progresses throughout the year. With respect to your question about the cable we do not believe that the additional contract manufacturer is in any way responsible for the inventory. It really is simply an inventory buildup in the supply chain as far as we can tell. And I have been fairly involved in trying to discern that. We do believe that the MSOs continue to purchase gear at a relatively robust clip. I think that some of the distribution partners maybe got a little bit out over their skis in terms of their forecasts. And as interest rates and things like that have ticked up, everybody is looking more closely at their inventory levels and I think that's really the explanation for it. I don't think it has anything to do with any additional competition in terms of contract manufacturing.
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Tim Savageaux
Analyst · Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Got it. Thanks very much.
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Stefan Murry
Analyst · Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
My pleasure.
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Operator
Operator
At this time, we have no further questions. I will turn the call over to Dr. Thompson Lin for closing remarks.
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Thompson Lin
Analyst
Okay. And thank you for joining us today. As always, we want to extend a thank you to our investors, customers, and employees for your continuous support. We look forward to update you on our next earnings call.
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Operator
Operator
The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.