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Q2 2013 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 31, 2013

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American Assets Trust, Inc. Q2 2013 Earnings Call Transcript

Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Q2 2013 American Assets Trust Earnings Conference Call. My name is Karen, and I will be your operator for today. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the call over to Adam Wyll, Senior Vice President and General Counsel. Please go ahead.

Adam Wyll

Analyst

Good morning. I'd like to thank everyone for joining us today for American Assets Trust's Second Quarter 2013 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me on the call are Ernest Rady, John Chamberlain and Bob Barton. These and other members of our management team are available to take your questions at the conclusion of our prepared remarks. Our second quarter 2013 supplemental disclosure package provides a significant amount of invaluable information with respect to the company's operating and financial performance. The document is currently available on our website. Certain matters discussed on this call may be deemed to be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements include any annualized or projected information, as well as statements referring to expected or anticipated events or results. Although we believe the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, our future operations and our actual performance may differ materially from the information contained in our forward-looking statements, and we can give no assurance that these expectations will be attained. Risks inherent in these assumptions include but are not limited to future economic conditions including interest rates, real estate conditions and the risks and cost of construction. The earnings release and supplemental reporting package that we issued yesterday, our annual report filed on Form 10-K and our financial disclosure documents provide a more in-depth discussion of risk factors that may affect our financial conditions and results of operations. Additionally, this call will contain non-GAAP financial information including funds from operations, or FFO; earnings before interest taxes, depreciation and amortization or EBITDA; and net operating income or NOI. American Assets is providing this information as a supplement to information prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. Explanations of such non-GAAP items and reconciliations to net income are contained in the company's supplemental operating and financial data for the second quarter of 2013 furnished to the Securities and Exchange Commission, and this information is available on the company's website at www.americanassetstrust.com. I'll now turn the call over to our Executive Chairman, Ernest Rady, to begin our discussions of second quarter results. Ernest?

Ernest Rady

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

Thanks, Adam. And good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining American Assets Trust Second Quarter 2013 Earnings Call. We have stated frequently that we own and operate the premier portfolio of retail office and multifamily assets in the REIT sector on the West Coast. Our FFO per share increased approximately 23%, and same-store cash NOI increased 10% year-over-year for the 3 months ended June 30, 2013. As I stated on our last earnings call, our strategy and portfolio continues to produce a continuous growing stream of cash flows. We successfully obtained the final regulatory approval this past quarter for both our Sorrento Pointe and Lloyd District development endeavors, as John will describe in more detail shortly. This development pipeline will provide internal growth for our shareholders as the market allows for many, many years to come. Our multifamily properties are doing extremely well. Same-store NOI was up 31.6% for the quarter compared to the same period last year, truly amazing. Our properties' NOI continue to exceed our expectations. Waikiki Beach Walk experienced growth in sales, rent and hotel revenue; an asset we believe we are only seeing the beginning of a great future. On behalf of all of us at American Assets Trust, we thank you for your confidence in allowing us to manage your company; and we look forward to your continued support. I would now like to turn it over to our President and CEO, John Chamberlain. John, would you please take it from here?

John Chamberlain

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

Good morning and thank you, Ernest. As mentioned on our last call, overall conditions in our core markets, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, San Diego and Oahu continue to show significant signs of strengthening in all 3 of our asset classes. We expect this to continue into the foreseeable future. Our office properties continue to perform extremely well relative to their respective submarket competitors. Portfolio-wide, the overall leased building area was 92.9%, as of June 30. Same-store cash NOI rose 4.8% for the 3 months ended June 30, compared to the same period in 2012. Our San Francisco portfolio is 97% leased, and the market continues to experience positive rent growth. The technology sector remains the driving force in that market accounting for 45% of completed lease transactions. In San Diego, construction continues on Phase III of Torrey Reserve, on track and on-budget. Lease negotiations are well underway for Building 6 scheduled for an August completion. On May 8, we received our final regulatory approval for Sorrento Pointe, a 2-building approximately 88,000 square foot project. Preparation of construction documents is underway. Groundbreaking, subject to market conditions, is targeted for the summer of 2014. The leased building area of our retail portfolio increased to 96.6% from 96.1% last quarter. The increase was due to a new lease with U Gym at the Waikele Center in Hawaii. Other leasing and repositioning activities continue in full swing with several significant executed letters of intent in place. Our Monterey, California property, the Del Monte Shopping Center continues to operate very well, finishing the second quarter at 99.5% leased. Our multifamily assets had another great quarter with same-store growth coming in at a tremendous 31.6% on a year-over-year basis. Although leasing levels at the end of the second quarter 2013 versus the second quarter 2012 remained…

Robert Barton

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

Thank you, John. And good morning, everyone. Last night, we reported second quarter FFO of $0.37 per share. Net income attributable to common stockholders was $0.08 per share for the second quarter. The company's Board of Directors has declared a dividend on this common stock of $0.21 per share for the quarterly period ending September 30, 2013. The dividend will be paid on September 27 to stockholders of record on September 13, 2013. American Assets had a solid second quarter performance based on steady leasing and increased pricing power due to consistently strong occupancy in retail and office, with retail occupancy at the end of the second quarter increasing by 50 basis points to 96.6%, primarily due to a new lease with U Gym at Waikele Center in Hawaii. Total office portfolio occupancy decreased quarter-over-quarter by approximately 100 basis points, primarily due to 2 tenants leaving, one of which was Skyy Spirits at One Beach Street in San Francisco and the other was a smaller tenant at Torrey Reserve. Skyy Spirits' lease was a below-market lease at a rate less than $30 per square foot. The market rent for that space with unobstructed views of Alcatraz, on the North Waterfront in San Francisco, is somewhere in the 40s. We are looking forward to re-leasing that space. For purposes of our operating model, we have left it vacant for the remainder of the year. All of our other same-store office buildings in our portfolio continue to maintain strong occupancy statistics as shown in the supplemental. Let's talk about same-store NOI for a moment. Same-store retail NOI for the quarter continue to have very impressive growth at 10.5% on a cash basis and 4.8% on a GAAP basis. This growth reflects not only in place contractual bumps on existing retail tenants, but…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] First question comes from the line of Todd Thomas of KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Todd Thomas

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

Jordan Sadler is on with me as well. First question, John, you mentioned in your remarks about acquisitions that the pricing for high-quality deals is unacceptably well. I was just wondering if there's any evidence that in the low cap rates in the markets that you're targeting are being impacted at all by rising rates. Are you seeing sellers adjust to expectations at all in the last few weeks or so?

John Chamberlain

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

No, we have not seen any sign of cap rates rising in the markets that we're focused in. That's not to say that there isn't movement in B and C property types, but in the A+ properties that we focus on, we haven't seen any movement.

Todd Thomas

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

Has the company changed its return thresholds at all?

John Chamberlain

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

No.

Todd Thomas

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. And then, I saw on the press that there's some retail for sale, Waikiki, the Hard Rock and some other retail there along the Beach Walk for around $60 million. I was just wondering if you're interested in that property. I just wasn't sure if that was being offered on a fee simple basis or if it was just a leasehold interest?

John Chamberlain

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

The 2 properties you're referring to are both leasehold. If you were to compute the price per square foot being asked for those properties and related to our shop space on Kalakaua, we would have a building valuation of approximately $57 million. And this is for a property that we contributed to the REIT at approximately $20 million. So pricing in Hawaii, in Waikiki on Kalakaua is so ridiculous. These are properties we will not consider.

Todd Thomas

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay, that's helpful. And then, I was just wondering what the current thinking is around the ATM and sort of -- and where the stock is today. I guess should we expect that you'll not be issuing stock below the $33.50 internal NAV estimate that you published? Is that the threshold that we should think about with regard to ATM issuance?

Ernest Rady

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

I think what both John and Bob said, this is Ernest, that our focus is on accretion to our NAV and accretion to our cash flow. So those decisions we make on a day-to-day basis. One has to consider also that the development opportunities that John outlined are accretive. We want to fire-advance those on a conservative basis, and we're going to take all those factors into account on what we decide to do about the ATM. But again, I want to reiterate that our focus is on accretion to cash flow and NAV.

Todd Thomas

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. And then just one last question -- I'm sorry.

Robert Barton

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

Todd, Bob. One thing I want to add to that is that, too, with our balance sheet, we do have a strong balance sheet. So even if we didn't raise anything else on the ATM, we got -- we have cash on the balance sheet, we have a line of credit, the property's unencumbered, but we've got plenty of ways to go. We're very disciplined in our balance sheet management.

Todd Thomas

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

Sure. Okay. And then just one last question regarding the development at Sorrento Pointe. I was just wondering if you could give us some ranges around the expected cost and returns of that project?

John Chamberlain

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

Not at this time. We are just in the process of preparing construction documents and going through the design development process. We should have that completed by year end, and we'll likely offer some guidance in that regard on our fourth quarter earnings call.

Ernest Rady

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

I would like to -- this is Ernest again. I would like to mention though that, that property we -- is considered by us as a premier office location in San Diego County. It sits up on a knoll overlooking a nature preserve, the ocean, freeway access, so we are very excited about it. And it took us 15 years to get all the entitlements. So that, again, is representative of the quality of our portfolio. Very, very difficult to replace. And when you get it, the entitlement and you do own the property, it is a premier asset for our shareholders.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Jason White of Green Street Advisors.

Jason White

Analyst · Jason White of Green Street Advisors

I have a quick question. Initially about the Ross that went dark, what's it looking like for re-leasing that space?

John Chamberlain

Analyst · Jason White of Green Street Advisors

We have an executed a letter of intent. We're going through a lease documentation process and expect to have that store reopened by the end of the first quarter next year.

Jason White

Analyst · Jason White of Green Street Advisors

Okay, can you speak to what type of tenant it is? Like soft goods or [indiscernible] no?

John Chamberlain

Analyst · Jason White of Green Street Advisors

Soft goods.

Jason White

Analyst · Jason White of Green Street Advisors

Soft goods, okay. And then Sorrento Pointe, what's the delay to start next year. Is it just local approvals, or anything like that?

John Chamberlain

Analyst · Jason White of Green Street Advisors

It's not approvals, it's to prepare construction documents and obtain permits. It's about a 12-month process in San Diego. San Diego is one of the most difficult municipalities to obtain construction permits.

Ernest Rady

Analyst · Jason White of Green Street Advisors

But I just read in the paper this morning, we may be getting a new mayor.

John Chamberlain

Analyst · Jason White of Green Street Advisors

We may have a new mayor, so things may change.

Ernest Rady

Analyst · Jason White of Green Street Advisors

The process may accelerate.

Jason White

Analyst · Jason White of Green Street Advisors

Okay. Final question then. If you were to strip out the 3 borders releases from your same-store NOI, the cash metric, do you have a sense of about what that would be?

Robert Barton

Analyst · Jason White of Green Street Advisors

No. Jason, this is Bob. I don't have that number in front of me. But I think that the bigger picture is, is that we're -- from my understanding, we're one of the few REITs out there that have replaced all 3 borders at north of 25% increase over the prior tenants. And if you look at the leasing REIT spread, the spreads going forward, we've continued to show strong leasing spreads on each of our retail portfolio. So we're very positive about that retail portfolio. But I don't have that number that you've asked for.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Craig Schmidt of Bank of America.

Craig Schmidt

Analyst · Craig Schmidt of Bank of America

Glimcher recently sold their interest in the Lloyd Center, and it sounds like there's going to be a need for significant reinvestment and a potential change of anchors given that Nordstrom only has a few years on its operating covenant. I wondered if you had a sense of the direction the new owner is taking that mall? And if that presents any opportunities or has any impact on the Lloyd District Portfolio?

John Chamberlain

Analyst · Craig Schmidt of Bank of America

Well, we're very excited that the mall has changed hands. The group that acquired the mall is really a specialist in repositioning and redeveloping retail assets. If you go to their website, it is I think very representative of what they're capable of doing. So my guess would be, if I were to place a wager, is that their plans to reposition that mall will likely result in Nordstrom's wanting to stay. Nordstrom's just completed a significant remodel of the interior of their store at their expense. So I don't think they're looking to exit. I do think that the mall is now in proper hands, and it's going to be a real benefit for the neighborhood and the immediate community and a benefit to what we have planned up there. So we're excited, and we wish them the best of luck.

Ernest Rady

Analyst · Craig Schmidt of Bank of America

Okay, great. If you look at the overall Lloyd District with what we're bringing to the district, what the new owner of the mall brings to the district, what the new transportation that recently opened up through the district, it's going to be a significant improvement in the short run and the long run for all the investors in the Lloyd District. So we're pretty darn excited about it, frankly.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities.

Brendan Maiorana

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities

So just first question, can you give an update on what the prospect list looks like for replacing tax and treasury at First & Main? And then maybe kind of same question for Skyy at One Beach Street?

John Chamberlain

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities

Well, Skyy, my guess is it's going to be technology that replaces them. We've had a number of tenants looking at it. We're actually going through some programming right now for one of the tenants. At First & Main, it is going to go 1 or 2 ways. It's either going to be a law firm or 2 law firms, or it's going to be technology.

Ernest Rady

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities

Jim, do you want to chime in on that? I know that you've been handling the negotiations.

James Durfey

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities

Sure. We've had approximately 5 tours at First & Main already, and it ranges the gamut from some technology to some legal and actually some of the engineering architectural types have kind of chimed in also. But it's too early to tell what the actual answer will be, but that's our expectation of probably tech or legal or a combination of both.

Ernest Rady

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities

I think the quality of those portfolios assures that we will get a tenant to replace them. The question of the quality, the type and the timing and the rent rate is still open, but the outcome is certain.

Brendan Maiorana

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities

Yes, I know. I mean, I can appreciate kind of that you guys don't want to put down exact timing. But can you give us a sense of maybe likelihood of when deals could hit? I know Bob mentioned that. You don't have anything at First & Main in your 2013 guidance, but is this something that we should expect the lease to be executed by, say, end of the year? Or do you think it takes longer?

John Chamberlain

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities

Jim, what do you think?

James Durfey

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities

I think [indiscernible] it's going to take longer than that I believe for the execution. Again, the space doesn't get vacated until September 30, so -- and it's going to look vastly different for showings when it's vacant versus the way it looks today. We will prep part of the space to make sure that the tours start with great views of the river and work their way around. But my expectation is, it will not be an executed lease in the fourth quarter of this year, it will be next year.

Brendan Maiorana

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities

Okay, great. And then I guess kind of similar question with Waikele and Foodland, is there -- I think it's Foodland, is there an update on I believe that's a '14 expiration maybe. What the plans are and what that tenant interest is for that center?

Robert Barton

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities

Yes, it's likely to go soft goods. It is likely to be demised into 2 units. We're in discussions with 2 different national retailers to take that space, and we expect to really sort that out and have something to report to you probably, I would hope by the end of the year, but it might be first quarter next year.

Brendan Maiorana

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities

Okay, great. Last one, Bob, you've been clear about kind of the roadmap to get to investment grade by 2015. Just curious if the recent rise in rates, do you think as we look at the expirations, the debt expirations in 2014 and '15, which are around your average, 5.25, if you have to issue debt today, do you think that, that is a benefit to cash flow or do think that rates are maybe where you'd issue would be a little bit higher than the expiring rates?

Robert Barton

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities

I think it's still a benefit to cash flow. We'd pick up from what we're seeing in the pricing, we'd still pick up a couple of hundred basis points. I know that the interest rates have gone up, the spreads have widened a little bit. But overall, we think it's the right approach, is to approach the investment grade market from the balance sheet management perspective.

Brendan Maiorana

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities

What duration would that be on new issuance if you're picking up a couple hundred basis points?

Robert Barton

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities

Well, I mean, if you take a look at what's maturing between now and 2015, we have about just under $500 million. We have -- so in January of 2014, we have about $90 million maturing with Alamo. And then at the end of '14, we have about $130 million maturing at Waikele.

Brendan Maiorana

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities

Yes, understood. If you're picking up and those I think are sort of midsized interest rate, if you're going to be picking up a couple of hundred basis points of rate, what would be the new debt that you'd be -- what would be the term of the new debt that you'd be replacing it with?

Ernest Rady

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana of Wells Fargo Securities

This is Ernest, again. That would be a speculation on interest rates. And if you know the person who has an accurate fix on that, I would appreciate if you will give me his direct line. I think that we will qualify for the best rates available, and I think some of the financing that Bob's talking about is going to be very short term, because it has to get us to that 2015. But we feel -- the quality of the portfolio and the quality of our credit would get us the best rates available.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Next question comes from the line of Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets.

Richard Moore

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

You might have answered this, John, early in the conversation here, but when you're talking about Hawaii, but there's -- my hotel analyst tells me there's a lot of hotel transactions going on in Hawaii as well. And I'm wondering, do you guys look at the hotel transactions that are going on there, the stuff that's coming to market? And maybe more broadly, do you think about hotels at all in the scheme of acquisitions?

John Chamberlain

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

We have looked at several. We have deferred to our partner in Hawaii, Outrigger, for their opinion of some of the opportunities that have presented themselves. And based on their input and their guidance, we have elected not to pursue anything. Yes, hotels are not something we're necessarily looking to grow in the portfolio. But if the right opportunity were to present itself, it would certainly be something we'd consider especially if we had the opportunity to partner with Outrigger. We have a great deal of respect for the people of that company. There are a lot of hotels that have changed hands. There are proposals for new hotels. There is a proposal for a Ritz-Carlton condo hotel right across the street from our Beach Walk property. So it's a very active sector, particularly in Hawaii as we report the levels of activity in Hawaii are very attractive to investors. So I expect that's going to continue. But keep in mind, the biggest hurdles for us in Hawaii is finding property that is fee simple. And most of the hotels in Hawaii, there's one that traded hands that was fee simple, most of them are ground lease.

Ernest Rady

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

Outrigger probably stated the risk that they're looking for opportunities throughout the Pacific Rim because the valuations in Hawaii just don't make any sense for them. And I would like to point out too that the Ritz-Carlton that John referred to, as I understand it, abuts our property right on Kalakaua. Again, a vast improvement to our location of what we have.

Robert Barton

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

Rich, this is Bob. I just want to add to those comments that, and make it clear to the investors and all that are listening that we have no intention of becoming a hotel REIT. And what we have in Waikiki is a mixed-use unit. We have the hotel, which sits on a podium of retail. And so that's the interest is when we can tie it in with the retail is what excites us.

Richard Moore

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

Okay, good point. Okay, and then more broadly on acquisitions, guys, and what you're looking at. Do you see any shift? I mean, because you guys look at so many different property types. Do you see any shift in one or the other property types? Maybe one getting a little better, one getting a little worse, that kind of thing. Any changes? I guess I know all of it is kind of expensive, but any changes that you see?

John Chamberlain

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

Rich, when you say changes, are you asking about cap rates or are you asking about property quality?

Richard Moore

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

I was thinking maybe a combination, John. Are you getting a little more encouraged about certain sectors, maybe a little more discouraged, that kind of thing? Based on pricing or based on quality, either.

John Chamberlain

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

I would say discouraged. In the markets that we're focused in, the cap rates have not moved. The quality of property that has been brought to market is outstanding. But the pricing of those assets is something that we can't or won't pursue. So lots of high-quality multifamily, lots of high-quality office, very little retail. We'd love to see more retail brought to market. The retail that has been brought to market is, in our opinion, kind of B properties, and that is what it is. On the other hand, the properties in Hawaii that have been brought to market, the retail properties we mentioned earlier, are outstanding. But the pricing for those will likely start with a 3. So that's something that -- 3, and it might grow to a 4 in 10 years. So it's just things that we're not interested in.

Robert Barton

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

Rich, what John says, I just want to add to that, is that it's not so much the cap rate on the going-in cap rate, it's really the internal growth. And if we have same-store NOI that continues to increase and get us so that it's over our weighted average cost to capital, then that makes sense. So and what John just mentioned is that while we'll see these beautiful properties, Class A properties we'd love to have in the portfolio, they're flat. They're flat for 10 years or more. And it's from our perspective, that's destroying shareholder value. So does it look nice, would it fit into our portfolio? Yes, from a picture standpoint. But from an economic standpoint, it does not create shareholder value, and so we're not interested, and we decided to pass on those deals.

Ernest Rady

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

If I would have a choice of how you would focus on how we're going to add to our NAV over the next short number of years, I'd like people to focus on the development opportunity we have. We have a $250 million of significant development, which offers upside at a price and a value that is much more compelling than the opposite of trying to acquire. So we have adjusted our focus to take advantage of the opportunities that are available that will be beneficial over the long term.

Robert Barton

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

Rich, one other thing, too, is that I think that's really the benefit of a diversified strategy. So in markets like this, where it gets overheated in various sectors, you'll see one market come back roaring strong while another one may be flat, but we can capitalize on all the opportunities in the various markets that we're in on the West Coast, in high-quality, high-barrier-to-entry markets.

Richard Moore

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

Right. Good, got you, guys. And then looking at San Francisco for a second. I mean, that's obviously been red hot. But what do you guys think? Is that beginning to slow, do you think? Obviously, still good, but are there some chinks in the armor? Or is it just going to keep going?

John Chamberlain

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

Well, vacancy is at about 7.5% and declining. Rents are up, what? 14% for the first 6 months of this year. So if things could slow down a little, and it would still be on fire. It's not anything that we believe is going to change much and certainly not over the next 6 months.

Ernest Rady

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

As it relates to our properties in San Francisco, our in-place rents in San Francisco compared to where the market is are 20% -- 20% to 25% below market.

Richard Moore

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

Got you. And then the last thing, guys. I guess, Bob, on the ATM, did you do anything, maybe you said and I missed it, but did you do anything post 2Q, I guess in the first month here of 3Q?

Robert Barton

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

No, we have not.

Ernest Rady

Analyst · Rich Moore of RBC Capital Markets

I think what we said in the quarterly report is all that we have done.

Operator

Operator

I'd now like to turn the call over to Ernest Rady, Chairman, for closing remarks.

Ernest Rady

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Thank you, all, for listening to our report. I'd like to mention again that we think we have the best quality portfolio on the coastal West Coast. Our objective is that of a decade-long to continue to produce returns of 10% including dividends. We think we can do this by the -- with the portfolio we have, which, as you've seen by these results that we've outlined today, do produce increasing returns. The icing on the cake will be and could be and may be development and/or trades. The development icing on the cake seems to be in place for the next 12 to 24 months, and we continue to work to enhance all shareholder value. I doubt if we'll ever be the biggest, but we are striving and determined to continue to be the best. With that, I say thank you very much for your listening to us today and your confidence in us, and we hope to continue to earn it in the future. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for joining us today. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes your presentation. You may now disconnect. Have a good day.