Yes, Maury, thank you. I'll take that. It's Michael. First and foremost, yes, past the halfway point on wounds, large and chronic wounds, remember, guys. Different types EB out there, just a quick reminder, RDEB is the worst, unfortunately, the worst prognosis of all EB right now, morbidity and mortality. The 2 different types of wounds that occur within RDEB are kind of, if you will, early in the chronology of the disease, small clustering, recurrent wounds. Think about a patch of blisters that opens close, open and close. Some of the other life sciences companies are concentrating on such wounds. So we think that's great. We think that will be super complementary and we're rooting very hard for patients and our partner companies out there.
And then where EB-101 kicks in, Abeona's work has been focused more, if you will, on kind of that last line of defense. The other half of the RDEB wounds, which is when those wounds are no longer recurrent small open close cluster, they just become one continuous chronic wound. Definition of large in the trial, 20 centimeters or greater. I'll remind everybody, we have entire legs, thighs, entire backs, 100s of centimeters of wounds at times. And chronic, this is an important term. Chronic means the wound has now been open for 6 months or longer and can no longer close itself.
That's where you need the regeneration of skin that we're obviously doing with the keratinocytes for EB-101 and the surgical transplantation. So those are the wounds that we are focusing on in VIITAL in the RDEB trial. I think Maury, what I could tell you, obviously, it's an ongoing pivotal, so we're not looking at data along the way. I could tell you that feedback has been positive. I think the -- what we're trying to replicate, and I think the consistency we'll be looking for here is what we see from the Phase I/II. I'll remind everybody, we just showed you durability data of almost 6 years.
So this is really important, right? We know it's not a topical gel. We know there's -- you've got to take some biopsies from patients, you've got to make these grafts and you got to put them on. And the reality for this drug product is it's got to be worth it. And we believe the key here is in the worst of the worst wounds that lead to ultimate morbidity and mortality. The durability will be super important. So Maury, that's what we're looking for. I can't talk to you too much about results, safety and efficacy because we are in pivotal.
The second part of that, Maury, for EB was -- I'm sorry, remind me the second part of that question?