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ABM Industries Incorporated (ABM)

Q4 2019 Earnings Call· Thu, Dec 19, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, welcome to the ABM Industries Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2019 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions]. Please note this conference is being recorded. At this time I will turn the conference over to your host Susie Choi. Ms. Choi, you may begin.

Susie Kim

Analyst

Thank you all for joining us this morning. With us today are Scott Salmirs, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Anthony Scaglione, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We issued our press release yesterday afternoon, announcing our fourth quarter and fiscal 2019 financial results. A copy of this release and an accompanying slide presentation can be found on our corporate website. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that our call and presentation today contain predictions, estimates and other forward-looking statements. Our use of the words estimate, expect, and similar expressions are intended to identify these statements. These statements represent our current judgment of what the future holds. While we believe them to be reasonable, these statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially. These factors are described in the slide that accompanies our presentation, as well as in our filings with the SEC. During the course of this call, certain non-GAAP financial information will be presented. A reconciliation of those numbers to GAAP financial measures is available at the end of the presentation, and on the company's website under the Investor tab. I would now like to turn the call over to Scott.

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

Thanks Susie and thank you all for joining us this morning as we discuss our fourth quarter and full year results as well as our outlook for 2020. Our performance during the fourth quarter represented another period of progress as we reported $1.6 billion of revenue and higher GAAP and adjusted EPS of $0.71 a share and $0.66 a share respectively compared to last year. We also expanded adjusted EBIDA margins 10 basis points to 5.6%. This performance enabled us to meet our full year guidance across our key metrics and with and without the impact of the ASCs 606 and 853. Total full-year revenues were $6.5 billion as we completed a record $1 billion in new sales bookings. This helped to offset our discerning approach to retention and re-pricing of existing work and allowed us to land at 1.6% organic growth. Our GAAP continuing EPS was $1.91 a share or $2.05 a share on an adjusted basis. And our adjusted EBITDA margin was 5.2% for the year. We also generated $200 million in free cash flow and ended the year with leverage of 2.8 times which hit our target range of below three times. Operational highlights include the sustained robust pipeline within our Technical Solutions Group as they achieved outstanding growth of 26% for the quarter and 19% for the year. I would urge you all to visit our IR homepage and see firsthand the work they did for the renowned Griffith Observatory in Los Angeles, a super complex project we recently finished. Business and Industry also demonstrated continued strength by expanding margins while navigating and in many instances absorbing the effects of a still unfavorable wage environment given where the labor markets remain. In addition to the work our B&I team is adding in their core office market…

Anthony Scaglione

Analyst

Thank you Scott and good morning everyone. It is indeed hard to believe that 2020 is already upon us. We have made such important progress since our journey just a few short years ago. Today we're a stronger company and our position as a leading facilities service provider is unparallel. I'm extremely proud of our team members and I look forward to the next phase of our evolution. Now onto the results, throughout 2019 we have seen various impacts from the adoption of ASC 606 and 853. Lower revenues of approximately 12.5 million for the quarter and 48.6 million for the year associated with ASC 853 related to service concession arrangements primarily reflected in our Aviation segment. The deferral of profit on uninstalled materials associated with our Technical Solutions project work was approximately 1.3 million for the quarter and approximately 0.5 million for the year. Sales commission costs did not have a material impact during the quarter but had approximately 6.7 million impact for the year due primarily to the exceptional growth we have seen from our Technical Solutions segment all year. For the fourth quarter total revenues were 1.6 billion reflecting organic growth of 0.6% excluding the adoption of ASC 853 and 606. Organic growth was primarily driven by the Technical Solutions segment during the quarter. Overall revenue also reflects the impact of our decision to exit lower margin contracts and other contract losses. On a GAAP basis our income from continuing operations was 48.1 million or $0.71 per diluted share compared to 8.9 million or $0.13 last year. This quarter's results reflect a 5.4 million benefit from prior year self-insurance adjustments, the second consecutive quarter where we have seen a favorable impact. ABM's [ph] risks was among our key areas of focus when we launched our 2020 vision…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question is from the line of Sam Crusmer [ph] with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hey guys, how is it going.

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

Good morning.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Now that you're almost two months in the fiscal 2020 I was hoping you are able to go into your estimate for new sales growth this year?

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

So, first we don't obviously give revenue guidance but from a sales perspective we are really optimistic. We crossed over the billion-dollar mark this year and if you would ask me two or three years ago if that was possible it would've been such a stretch target. So we've now set that as the benchmark. We continue to add in salespeople and we see our new sales booking in the high single-digit area and really enthusiastic about even what we're seeing at the start of the New Year and our pipeline. So thumbs-up in that area for us.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Awesome, are there any particular end markets or geographies that are having an outsized impact on that new sales?

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

Look, we always strive for across the Board and we allocate resources accordingly but ATS will continue to be strong for us. And as you think about the dynamics in that end market rate with sustainability and energy it's where we have our largest proportion of salespeople. Look at this year right, I mean we we're not necessarily expecting to replicate what we did this year but we were as we said in the release we were 19% growth for the year. So we're really optimistic about the ATS market.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Excellent, well best of luck in the next year here, thanks.

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from the line of David Silver with CL King. Please proceed with your question.

David Silver

Analyst

Yeah, hi. I had a couple of -- well I had one question I guess on the adjustments and then I had a more of a strategic question and I just to [indiscernible] I had to step out for a couple of minutes, I apologize if some of this was covered and I make you repeat yourself. But the last couple of quarters you've had this self-insurance adjustment several million dollars and it's treated as an adjustment for annualizing the quarter's results because it applies to a previous period but it is money I think that works to your advantage. So I was just wondering if you could maybe talk about that general book of business, book of insurance business for yourself and whether it's been looked at and whether there's significant further positive adjustments I guess over time, in other words is that a hidden source of cash or GAAP earnings going forward?

Anthony Scaglione

Analyst

Great and welcome to the team David. This is Anthony. So we're very encouraged and proud of the dedicated effort we made in both the pre and post wealth management. As you know the balance sheet amount is highly subjective actuarially determined amount. And we look at that balance on a quarterly basis and the adjustments that you're seeing are related to the actuarial estimated long-term estimate of where those liabilities land. So what our goal is to try to reduce the volatility of both positively and negatively associated with that balance and we're starting to see some of that volatility come down. As it relates -- and those are non-cash charges just to be clear. These are long-term tale type liabilities. As we look forward there's opportunities obviously with the continued success that we're having on pre-loss which is the safety side to influence the go-forward which could result in a lower expenses on a go-forward basis BUT at this time it's too premature.

David Silver

Analyst

Okay, and so just to clarify the $5.4 million adjustment that's on a mark-to-market basis that's not just one quarter analysis of the reserves that you took some time ago versus actual experience. So the 5.4 million is truing up your entire portfolio?

Anthony Scaglione

Analyst

That's true. It's every loss year from 2018 and prior. So, it is mark-to-market.

David Silver

Analyst

Yes, sorry, thank you for that. One of the -- in issuing your initial 2020 guidance you cited incremental IT spending and incremental human resource spending, so on the IT side could you -- I was wondering if you could maybe characterize the incremental spending you are seeing in terms of was this spending that was originally considered part of vision 2020 and maybe just wasn't captured through that period or is it incremental spending that maybe went a little over budget tied to 2020 or is this spending that is maybe characterized as a vision 2025 program, in other words you're already moving beyond the targets or the functions that were captured in vision 2020 and you're already moving beyond that you are setting your targets for IT capabilities higher? Thank you.

Anthony Scaglione

Analyst

Great, yeah, I'll take that question and then hand it over to Scott. So our guidance and results fully incorporate both the CAPEX development and ongoing operating expenses associated with the subscription model. So just for context we are moving from a primarily on-premises model to more of a cloud-based servers across all of our major work streams including HR, finance, and time and attendance. So one of the pillars of our 2020 vision was the modernization of our IT infrastructure and at the time when we first initially launched 2020 we realize their need for that IT investment. But while we were a bit higher on the development of the CAPEX we still remain in line with our previous estimate on savings and on an ongoing operating expense. What we probably haven't yet quantified is the full benefits that will accrue once all the systems are alive and we expand that functionality.

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

And what I would just say more strategically is for us you think about the fact that we've been clear over time that we've underinvested in this area and to bring us up to speed now and get ready for kind of the digital evolution that's happening in our business, I think it's just the right time to make the right investments, have best-in-class systems. It's really for us, it's going to help us leapfrog in the future.

David Silver

Analyst

Okay and then just one last question and I know you've touched on this in your prepared remarks but bringing on a person in a brand-new role of the Chief Strategy and Transformation Officer, I understand that you have certain targets and he brings something to the table from his previous work with your company. But if we were to have this conversation maybe a year from now, if we are looking out December of 2020 what one or two achievements or accomplishments measurable would you -- Scott would you want to see from that addition to your strategy team, in other words how should we -- what might we look at maybe an interim milestone or two to see if this strategic addition is having the desired effect on your structure and on your operations?

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

Sure so couple of comments. First, you can only imagine how delighted we were to actually bring on one of the top partners of BCG to come in help us with what we're doing. And I think the best way to start this like the things that he will be working on, one is going to be our business mix and strategy going forward now that we're kind of coming towards the end of 2020 vision, right. So I think he is going to be looking at the strategic direction for the firm and then managing all the transformation that's going on at the firm between the IT systems being implemented and best practices, that's going to be a core area but where we will see the most foundational change quickly I think is in implementing best practices. We bought him what we call the ABM Way or core operational excellence. And taken the things that we've seen, that we've been rolling out like labor management and building on that and creating form and function across all the other industry groups hopefully we will see a tightening of some of our labor controls, labor percentages, how we schedule. Labor is a very complicated area, it's what we do, right. And there's so many sub work streams within labor. Again how we schedule people, how you staff the job, how you source labor. So I think across those different work streams it's going to be, he is going to have just a foundational impact and he is building a team around that. So as we go from 2020 and beyond again we couldn't be more excited.

David Silver

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Justin Hauke with Baird, please proceed with your questions.

Justin Hauke

Analyst · Baird, please proceed with your questions.

Yes, hi good morning. I guess I wanted to hopefully get a little bit more color around the margin expectations for 2020 and maybe you can help us get some confidence around them. So, maybe just starting on the corporate line I guess Anthony if you could quantify for us what's the year-over-year delta on the spending for the IT and HR investments that you've highlighted?

Anthony Scaglione

Analyst · Baird, please proceed with your questions.

The air corporate line overall from an outlook perspective is going up roughly 25 million. Of that half is going to be IT and HR related. And then the rest is going to be associated with items associated with corporate or stock-based compensations in corporate across the enterprise. So half of that increase is related to our IT and HR and then the other is going to be sprinkled around other corporate initiatives and developments.

Justin Hauke

Analyst · Baird, please proceed with your questions.

Okay, good, that's helpful. And then I guess for the segment guidance, I guess the two areas where maybe we'd appreciate a little bit more color on how you get there but aviation and education are the two markets where you've had the most labor market pressure, the difficulty in hiring people, and both of them you are looking for a pretty meaningful margin expansion next year. So if you could bucket it, I know you've got a little bit less amortization expense in education that's going to benefit there and you mentioned anniversarying some of the lost contracts, maybe if you could just quantify the margin impact from those two and then how much is left from kind of the internal initiatives that you guys are launching?

Scott Salmirs

Analyst · Baird, please proceed with your questions.

Yeah, so I will take it in two buckets aviation and education. For aviation I think maybe a different story than education. For aviation 2019 we were really calling the portfolio, we were looking very hard at non-performing contracts and made some tough decisions that I think will end up enrolling to a higher margin and we've baked that in. So that aviation -- on top of we expect better and better operating discipline. Of course you do that for every area. On top of that I think it's the business mix in terms of clients. So we will see a lift there. And on the education front the list is really going to be coming from our go-to-market strategy. We made a change midyear last year about how we're going to approach the market, how we're going to be more focused on the technical solutions offering, and how we could bundle that into our core offering of janitorial. And it's early on, right but we are seeing some good results with like the pipeline and we believe in addition to the amortization and operational excellence that we're expecting we believe the go-to-market strategy and the change that we articulated last year is going to have a meaningful impact and we're counting on that.

Justin Hauke

Analyst · Baird, please proceed with your questions.

Okay, thank you. I guess maybe my last question then here would be just on the free cash flow and the balance sheet you guys mentioned you're kind of in your target range now, EBITDA is going to be kind of flattish next year so you won't delever from growth and I'm just trying to think how you're thinking about allocating that free cash flow, is it still the priority to bring leverage down a little bit more, or is the balance sheet open enough where with the new buyback program and you talked about some M&A that's back on the table in 2020?

Anthony Scaglione

Analyst · Baird, please proceed with your questions.

Yeah, I think Justin our current leverage and continued strong cash flow provides really the optionality as it relates to our capital allocation strategy allowing us the ability to look at M&A and share buybacks in 2020. But a lot of factors that go into that so I think you'll see a continued focus on deleveraging with the optionality for share buyback and if opportunistic M&A prevents itself we have that ability as well.

Justin Hauke

Analyst · Baird, please proceed with your questions.

Great, thanks that's all helpful.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Marc Riddick with Sidoti and Company. Please proceed with your questions.

Marc Riddick

Analyst

Hey, good morning.

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

Good morning Mark.

Marc Riddick

Analyst

Just wanted to sort of follow-up on the back of that and sort of maybe talk about the potential acquisition target areas or whether or not that something that you've already begun to embark on and how should we be thinking about where those priorities may lie? Thanks.

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

So it is a good question. So we've talked in the past about the fact that we were going to start targeting some of the ATS segments like energy and sustainability and power. And we're going to continue to look at that. I think having Josh come on now as our Head of Strategy is going to help us be more focused and refined in terms of M&A approach whether it is acquisitive or even organically. So M&A is a lever that we have the ability to pull. And just to be clear aside from the focus on ATS and sustainability we will have the opportunity to do synergistic transactions in our core. We wouldn't shy away from that as well if it makes financial sense. So I think for us we just -- for us it's all about being purposeful and playing into the strategy that we set forward but definitely something that we can leverage in 2020.

Marc Riddick

Analyst

Okay great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Tate Sullivan of Maxim Group. Please proceed with your question.

Tate Sullivan

Analyst

Hi, thank you. A couple of follow-ups. Anthony first on the interest expense guidance for fiscal 2020, I mean just making sure I had it right, 45 to 50 down slightly from fiscal 2019. And that's after a meaningful pay down of debt in the last quarter. Are there other -- does that imply less of a debt pay down based on your previous comments on receivables in aviation maybe or can you give more context to that please?

Anthony Scaglione

Analyst

Yeah, it's in line with our expectations. If you look at our composition of our debt the proportion that is fixed at a higher interest rate as well as the proportion that is floating and our expectation of where we see the interest rate curve based on market conditions that's how we come up with our interest expense. But it's all in line with our deleveraging profile as well as our outlook for cash flow and the timing of cash flow.

Tate Sullivan

Analyst

Okay and thank you. Next, what has to -- I apologize if I missed this. What changes in fiscal year 2020 to get to double-digit EPS growth in fiscal 2021?

Anthony Scaglione

Analyst

So for us it's about getting back to historical growth rate averages right. We talked about 20 being kind of more of a muted growth. So once we get back to our historical growth rate, once we get back to historical retention rate there is absolutely no reason why we won't be double-digit EPS going forward.

Tate Sullivan

Analyst

Great, thank you. In terms of you mentioned a bit on health care and you moved it, I think it was last quarter or the previous quarter to help create B&I was that still somewhat of a drag in the most recent quarter and could that be a drag from lost contracts in fiscal year 2020?

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

No, actually surprisingly it's performing well. Now that it's in B&I and it's getting some of the operating leverage of our branch network and the proximity of the ABM B&I offices to where our healthcare assignments are we're actually seeing that as a nice little surprising uplift. So, we're pretty excited about that move. It's worked out.

Tate Sullivan

Analyst

Okay thank you. And then last from me and thanks for the details I thought I heard you mentioned a corporate line item increase when I saw the press release comment and then a previous question on IT and HR increases but did you quantify the increase I missed that please?

Anthony Scaglione

Analyst

Yeah, I quantified it earlier. Year-over-year we are expecting overall $25 million increase in corporate line item half of which is going to be in that IT HR investments.

Tate Sullivan

Analyst

25 okay. Thank you very much, have a good rest of the day.

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I will now turn the call back to management.

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

Okay, well thanks everyone. I just wanted to close out this fiscal year with a big thank you to not only our management team but everyone on this call who has had an interest in following us and participate in this journey. And hope everyone has a happy and healthy holiday season with family and friends and look forward to being back in the first quarter to update you on the progress and all the excitement that we have here at ABM about the future. We just couldn't be more pumped up so enjoy and be safe. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.0