Scott Salmirs
Analyst · CL King & Associates. Please proceed with your question.
Sure. Well, listen, there's certainly going to be pressure in commercial real estate. That's pretty obvious. For us, so far, as we've mentioned, it's really only been around the work order side because of hybrid and the economy. So, when you drill down into ABMs portfolio in B&I, David, don't forget that, or you may not have the insight to this, but a third of our revenues in B&I is around engineering and parking. And those are really stabilized depending on office density, because it doesn't matter how dense the floor is, you still need "engineers" in the basement, working on the mechanical and electrical business, that doesn't change. And parking, as we said, is stabilized. So, you're really talking about the janitorial piece that has some of the exposure. But then you look at ABM's portfolio, and we are way predominantly Class A buildings, newer buildings, bigger buildings, which are the ones that are going to survive the best and if anything, we've seen those have positive absorption as compared to the rest of the market because we're seeing B and C tenants from B and C buildings rather migrating into Class A buildings. So, I think for us, we're pretty protected. It will be choppy for the next several quarters, there's no question about it. Leases expire even in A buildings and as they take a little less space, the next tenant has to come in, they're going to have a year or so to build their space. So, there'll be some choppiness. But I think, again, we're so mitigated because of the portfolio that we have. And don't forget, again, as a whole, we're diversified. We've been investing in end markets like ATS, manufacturing and distribution, which is another hedge for us. And then lastly, David, what I would say is you think about the ELEVATE investments and just hyper targeting just in general for -- on the growth side to help us mitigate some of the compression in the real estate market. So, I think we're doing all the things we can and we actively manage these challenges. We've seen some of these downturns before in the segments, look at even the pandemic when schools were closed and airports were closed and B&I accelerated. So now we may be in a period where there is less acceleration in B&I, but as we talked about, aviation is doing great and ATS is doing great.