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Arbor Realty Trust, Inc. (ABR)

Q3 2015 Earnings Call· Fri, Nov 6, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Arbor Realty Trust Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today’s conference, Mr. Paul Elenio, Chief Financial Officer. You may begin.

Paul Elenio

Analyst · JMP Securities

Okay. Thank you, Vicky, and good morning everyone and welcome to the quarterly earnings call for Arbor Realty Trust. This morning, we’ll discuss the results for the quarter ended September 30, 2015. With me on the call today is Ivan Kaufman, our President and Chief Executive Officer. Before we begin, I need to inform you that statements made in this earnings call may be deemed forward-looking statements that are subject to risk and uncertainties, including information about possible or assumed future results of our business, financial condition, liquidity, results of operations, plans, and objectives. These statements are based on our beliefs, assumptions, and expectations of our future performance, taking into account the information currently available to us. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from Arbor’s expectations in these forward-looking statements are detailed in our SEC reports. Listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of today. Arbor undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise these forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after today or the occurrences of unanticipated events. I’ll now turn the call over to Arbor’s President and CEO, Ivan Kaufman.

Ivan Kaufman

Analyst · JMP Securities

Thank you, Paul, and thanks to everyone for joining us on today’s call. As you can see from the morning’s press release, we had another very successful quarter. We produced strong operating results and continued to effectively execute our business strategy. Before Paul takes you through the financial results, I would like to reflect on our significant accomplishments and focus on our outlook for the remainder of 2015 and for 2016. As we discussed on our last call, we completed our primary goal for 2015 of delevering all of our remaining legacy securitization vehicles earlier than expected, which has again allowed us to substantially reduced our debt cost, gain access to the capital that was trapped in these vehicles to deploy into new investment opportunities and grow our core earnings run rate. We also have continued to focus heavily on issuing new and enhanced non-recourse financing structures. We’ve experienced tremendous success in this area and continue to be a market leader in the CLO securitization arena. In the third quarter, we issued a new CLO with $350 million of collateral, including a $47 million ramp up feature to fund future loans and investments. This CLO contains significant improvements from our last securitization, including increased leverage to 77%, a loan replenishment period as well as a continued ability to finance non-multifamily assets. This is our fifth securitization vehicle since the financial crisis. In each one of these securitizations, we’ve cultivated a loyal and growing base of investors that highly value our strong transaction performance in our diverse platform. We now have three CLOs in place, with nearly $800 million of non-recourse debt, which represents almost 80% of our total financing. The success we’ve had in managing and improving our liability structure is a critical component of our business strategy, which has…

Paul Elenio

Analyst · JMP Securities

Okay. Thank you, Ivan. As noted in the press release, net income for the third quarter was $15.3 million or $0.30 per share and AFFO was $17.1 million or $0.34 per share, adding back depreciation expense and non-cash stock compensation expense. We successfully delevered our last legacy CDO vehicle during the quarter, resulting in recording net non-cash income of approximately $7.7 million. AFFO without this item as well as roughly $1.1 million in professional fees incurred during the third quarter related to the potential acquisition of our [managers agency] platform was $10.5 million or $0.21 per share which resulted in an annualized return on average common equity of approximately 9% for the quarter. As Ivan mentioned, during the third quarter, we continued to generate significant additional income streams, recording $1.4 million of income from our residential mortgage business joint venture and $4 million of net income from one of our equity interest, $5 million of which was recorded as income from equity affiliates which was partially reduced by $1 million of expenses related to this transaction that we recorded in operating expenses. This has resulted in AFFO of approximately $37 million or $0.72 per share for the nine months ended September 30, excluding the non-cash income we recorded from the delevering of our legacy securitization vehicles during the year, as well as the professional fees related to the potential acquisition of $0.72 is well ahead of our dividend of $0.45 per share for the first three quarters and translates into a 10.6% annualized return on average common equity to date. Looking at the rest of the results for the quarter, the average balance in our core investments was down to $1.53 billion for the third quarter from $1.62 billion for the second quarter, mainly due to the full effect of…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Steven DeLaney with JMP Securities.

Steven DeLaney

Analyst · JMP Securities

It seems like its getting routine that I’ve got to congratulate you on another earnings beat this quarter as well, so great job. Ivan, the preferred equity gain, looking at the Q, we see that’s in the Lexford portfolio, could you tell us what type of properties are in that portfolio?

Ivan Kaufman

Analyst · JMP Securities

Those are multifamily properties, a very large portfolio that we had a preferred equity investment in pre-crisis. We successfully took over that portfolio, raised additional capital, retired the additional capital we raised as well as the preferred equity investment and the properties are operating in a very healthy way.

Steven DeLaney

Analyst · JMP Securities

So you were able to refinance it in and pull some equity out, it sounds like?

Ivan Kaufman

Analyst · JMP Securities

A part of it, that’s correct.

Steven DeLaney

Analyst · JMP Securities

Would you describe those properties as fully stabilized or is there still some work to do to improve NOI there?

Ivan Kaufman

Analyst · JMP Securities

I think they are fairly stable. There is still a little bit room left for good management and structuring the financing, but we’re pretty content with the job that we’ve done and perhaps a little bit more through restructuring to get some more out of it.

Steven DeLaney

Analyst · JMP Securities

And I know we’ve talked before about equity kick and how the market has changed, are there any remaining preferred equity interest that you would consider to be material in some of the pre-crisis loan portfolio?

Paul Elenio

Analyst · JMP Securities

I don’t see anything in the portfolio right now that stands out that could produce significant results, but I think I would say that we managed to – however we do, we managed to lever off this unique platform and our franchise ability and we always manage to find opportunities on these structured transactions to create additional earnings. And on this particular issue, this particular situation, as Ivan laid out, we did say in our commentary that although the gain this quarter was largely due from refinance proceeds on several of the assets and we did a great job on that, we are expecting this to be somewhat of an annuity going forward of anywhere from $250,000 to $500,000 a quarter and that’s because the performance of the assets has improved and where our equity interest lies in the waterfall, we are expecting to get some additional proceeds going forward each quarter, which in our mind is like another annuity and another form of income. Having said that, looking in the portfolio, I don’t see anything that stands out in addition to the items we’ve mentioned. But again, we continue to find ways to generate additional value from our legacy assets.

Steven DeLaney

Analyst · JMP Securities

On CLO V, we did note the three replacement, Ivan did highlight that, to your knowledge, is this the first CLO that’s been done with a three-year rather than a two-year replenishment period?

Ivan Kaufman

Analyst · JMP Securities

First of all, most of the securitization is being done in a market are not revolving...

Steven DeLaney

Analyst · JMP Securities

Static pool.

Ivan Kaufman

Analyst · JMP Securities

Static. So we’re one of the few lenders who are able to have a replenishment feature. To my knowledge, this is the last one that we’ve done and I’m not sure there are others in the market that have this feature.

Steven DeLaney

Analyst · JMP Securities

Ivan, do you think – was this unique to the particular collateral set or do you think three years will become your standard structure going forward?

Ivan Kaufman

Analyst · JMP Securities

I think a lot depends on the market and clearly our investors have become really comfortable with our collateral and on the way we operate. So each time that we do issue one, our investors get more and more comfortable with our performance [indiscernible] how we manage things. So more they get comfortable, the better our performance, I think the greater flexibility we should have given the market remains stable.

Steven DeLaney

Analyst · JMP Securities

And one final thing from me, if I may, we have been told in the second quarter call, I think we talked about you have the four Daytona Hotels and I think you announced that you had a PSA on one of the hotel and I think we were looking for a fourth quarter possible sale in gain of maybe $1.5 million. It looks like from the Q, [bent down] some information that suggested maybe there’s been more activity, so could you – Paul, one of you, just give us an update on the status of all the Daytona Hotels as it sits now?

Paul Elenio

Analyst · JMP Securities

We did on our last quarter call talk about that we had one of our Daytona assets in real estate held for sale because we had a PSA on it. We did expect that transaction to close early in the fourth quarter and it has. And we had originally talked about $1.5 million gain, I think we are expecting that gain, even though we are still finalizing the work to be about $1.6 million. In addition to that one asset, we managed to get a quick deal done on a second asset and that was not listed as held for sale in the second quarter, was listed as head for sale in the third quarter as we signed up the agreement early in the third quarter and then we just closed on that deal literally yesterday or the day before and we are expecting almost $2 million or $2.1 million gain on that asset as well. So we managed to liquidate two of the four remaining at the time we spoke last Daytona properties at a nice gain and we now have two left on our books that are still in real estate owned.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Jade Rahmani with KBW.

Jade Rahmani

Analyst · Jade Rahmani with KBW

Just wanted to ask if you could give your perspective on recent market volatility and what you think, if anything, the market is signaling about perhaps the recycle trajectory of underwriting standards or anything else?

Ivan Kaufman

Analyst · Jade Rahmani with KBW

Clearly, there’s been a lot of turmoil in the CMBS market and that’s a factor of the risk retention rules and some of the other rules that’s taking place, which I believe have an impact on that market and the pricing of that market and the credit standards of that market. Overall, in general, I think there is some concern that the markets [indiscernible] and you’re seeing a little bit of a tightening take place right now. And I’m not sure whether that’s a factor of that – a lot of the institutions filled up their tank for the year and gliding into the year end and being more choosy, just because of the fall or whether there is a little bit of a change in terms of the credit culture. But we’re definitely seeing a little bit of a shift in the box being a little tightened. So the first quarter should be quite interesting to see how the revised regulations on risk retention and the Reg A affects the CMBS market and whether or not commercial loans will suffer some level of backup as the CMBS market becomes wider in terms of price. We’ll see how that develops. And we’ll see how the commercial banks and the other lenders adjust their credit when they have a new allocation of capital. So we’re watching and seeing ourselves, we’re fairly cautious. We focus primarily, as we say on the call and our portfolio reflects, in the multifamily segment of the market, which is fairly stable. But even there, we’ve seen a good run up in rents and some cap rate compression, we’re proceeding with caution as well.

Jade Rahmani

Analyst · Jade Rahmani with KBW

And just in terms of any opportunities there, on the bridge lending side, have this started to have any material impact on your pricing, are you seeing also potential deals take longer to close especially the [indiscernible] and borrowers a little more nervous and more interested in locking up financing, maybe even slightly higher spread than a few months ago?

Ivan Kaufman

Analyst · Jade Rahmani with KBW

I think in the third quarter, we – in the early third quarter, things were little slower [indiscernible] little bit of a rush, people doing some year-end transactions and we actually had a little bit of a surge in our portfolio, our pipeline. But I think there is a little bit more caution out there. We do have a lot of people doing lot of tax free exchanges from sales and doing new sales. That’s driving the market as well. And that has pushed volume up. So without a question, there has been cap rate compression. I think that the regs don’t affect the multifamily sector as it does the commercial sector, as Fannie May and Freddie Mac have provided a lot of liquidity and consistency in this space.

Jade Rahmani

Analyst · Jade Rahmani with KBW

Just touching to a disclosure in the 10-Q, can you give some color on the office building that, I think, was acquired through foreclosure?

Paul Elenio

Analyst · Jade Rahmani with KBW

We had a senior loan for a while that’s been non-performing on an office property in the Pittsburgh area that we’ve been watching that asset for a while, it’s been non-performing, although we’ve been trapping cash in a lot box, because we have a senior lender. And two things happened during the quarter. We’ve extended out that loan a few times, we came up on a maturity default, we like the asset, we like where we are in the value, and we ended up taking that property back during the third quarter. Our basis in that asset is just under $6 million. It’s an office property in Pittsburgh; we like where we are in the value a lot. And we’ve written down that loan obviously by $2.5 million and now our basis is $5.9 million. We did manage too, in my prepared remarks I mentioned we did manage to end up with some of the interest that was [back owed] to us in the third quarter from the cash. So we recorded that in interest income and we took back the asset and we have it on the books at $5.9 million and we like that property at that value.

Jade Rahmani

Analyst · Jade Rahmani with KBW

In terms of the outlook, will you have to put in dollars to stabilize the property or is it performing in terms of occupancy level?

Paul Elenio

Analyst · Jade Rahmani with KBW

It is performing; its occupancy is pretty strong. We may have to put a couple of dollars in to improve the property from an appearance perspective and performance, but we’re not looking at significant dollars and we certainly – any dollars we put in, we feel we’re well undervalued where we own it right now. So we’re totally comfortable with that approach in holding it, putting in some dollars and getting it more stable and getting its value up.

Jade Rahmani

Analyst · Jade Rahmani with KBW

And then just on the prospect of potentially internalizing the manager or doing some kind of transaction, is this an active topic? Is it taken off the table? Why hasn’t there been more movement on the topic, and perhaps it’s to do with ABR’s valuation? And then just a follow-on to that would be if there was some kind of merger, would ABR be able to maintain REIT status?

Paul Elenio

Analyst · Jade Rahmani with KBW

I’m going to add to that question, what we’ve disclosed is all we really can say, which is that we are in discussions, we continue to be in discussions. As I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we did have some professional fees incurred during the third quarter as a result of those discussions. So this is an active deal, to your question. But all we can tell you at this point is we are in discussions, we continue to be in discussions. If and when we ever get to the point where there is a deal, we will announce that. We’re not at that point. And at this point, I can’t guarantee there will be a deal and if there is a deal what that deal will look like from a structuring perspective or what it will mean to the REIT. We’re just not at that point yet.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Richard Eckert with Lahde Capital Management.

Richard Eckert

Analyst · Richard Eckert with Lahde Capital Management

Paul, forgive me if you’ve answered this, but I’ve been jumping in on and off. You cited $5 million in income from equity affiliates. That looks like a substantial portion of your income on that line item for the year. Can you tell me what that related to?

Paul Elenio

Analyst · Richard Eckert with Lahde Capital Management

Rich, you jumped in late. We did have some commentary and answer some Q&A on it already. But what that was is we had a preferred equity investment and with that preferred equity investment, we had an equity interest as well. We managed to work that portfolio of assets in a way to get all of our preferred equity investment and any additional capital we raise paid off. And we also managed to take some of those properties within that portfolio to multifamily portfolio and refinanced the debt on several of those assets. And the refinance proceeds were in excess of the initial debt stack and those proceeds flowed down, those excess proceeds flowed down in a waterfall and we were the recipient of some of that waterfall and that was $5 million net of $1 million in expenses we had, would be $4 million. That was an event that happened in the third quarter. Additionally, what we talked about is now that the debt has been refinanced, the properties are performing quite well. We’ve seen some improvements in several of the properties and we’re expecting going forward to have somewhat of an annuity on our equity interest of about $250,000 to $500,000 a quarter, proceeds that would flow down to us in the waterfall from the performance of those assets.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Lee Cooperman with Omega Advisors.

Lee Cooperman

Analyst · Lee Cooperman with Omega Advisors

Let me try to put a few things together, I want to make I understood correctly. [indiscernible] being in the right place to capital stack that you’re comfortable you could generate a mid-teens ROE, is that what I heard?

Ivan Kaufman

Analyst · Lee Cooperman with Omega Advisors

Yes.

Lee Cooperman

Analyst · Lee Cooperman with Omega Advisors

Second, you had unused lending capacity of around $175 million at the current time?

Paul Elenio

Analyst · Lee Cooperman with Omega Advisors

Right now we have $325 million in capacity in our short-term lines and that’s artificially a little high because we just closed our fifth CLO and emptied out our warehouse lines, then put those into the last securitization. So now, as we do new originations going forward, that capacity will start to get used. But currently, we have about $325 million of capacity in our line and about, I think in our commentary, $175 million what we call liquidity between cash on hand and cash that’s immediately deployable in our CLOs.

Lee Cooperman

Analyst · Lee Cooperman with Omega Advisors

The reason I’m asking these questions, when times were not as good for us as they are today, in 2012 we [sold 3.5 million shares for $5.80; 2013 we actually sold 5.6 million at $8 and then in September we sold 6 million in $7.08] as stock is now lower than it was when you sold stock, the company is in materially stronger condition. You guys are large owners. If I can apply $9.35 book value, it’s the real book value, you can earn mid-teens ROE, we deserve to sell at book value, okay. And so if I can buy something under $7 that’s worth $9.35 and you have the liquidity, the only reason we shouldn’t be doing it is if this transaction, as other gentlemen asked about, is alive and you’re restricted. But I’d say if you’re unrestricted or can get unrestricted, we should consider taking a part by liquidity and buying back something you’re selling in the marketplace for, I don’t know, [$0.70 for a dollar] or something like that?

Ivan Kaufman

Analyst · Lee Cooperman with Omega Advisors

I think your thought has a lot of merit if the circumstances are correct. And as you know, it took us quite a bit of time to really delever the facilities that we had in the legacy facilities to generate this kind of cash. We’re quite pleased with having this capability. I think it opens up a lot of options for us, depending on which way the company moves.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] I’m not showing any further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Ivan Kaufman, Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

Ivan Kaufman

Analyst · JMP Securities

Thank you everybody for participating. We’re really pleased with our third quarter results and the first three quarters have been outstanding. We look forward to a successful completion of 2015.