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Q4 2022 Earnings Call· Tue, Sep 20, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to the Aurora Cannabis Inc. Fourth Quarter 2022 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Ananth Krishnan. You may begin.

Ananth Krishnan

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and we appreciate you all joining us this afternoon. Today with me are, Miguel Martin, CEO; and Glen Ibbott, CFO. After the market closed, Aurora issued a news release announcing our fiscal 2022 fourth quarter and full year financial results. This news release, accompanying financial statements and MD&A will be available on our IR website and can also be accessed via SEDAR and EDGAR. In addition, you will find a supplemental information deck on our IR website. Listeners are reminded that certain matters discussed on today’s conference call could constitute forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties related to our future financial or business performance. Actual results could differ materially from those anticipated in these forward-looking statements. The risk factors that may affect actual results are detailed in our Annual Information Form and other periodic filings and registration statements. These documents may similarly be accessed via SEDAR and EDGAR. Following the prepared remarks by Miguel and Glen, we will conduct a question-and-answer session for our covering analysts. We ask that you limit yourself to one question and then get back in the queue please. With that, I will turn the call over to Miguel. Miguel, please go ahead.

Miguel Martin

Analyst

Thank you, Ananth. Before discussing the business more broadly, let me begin with a brief discussion of our latest acquisition, a controlling interest in Bevo, one of the largest suppliers of propagated vegetables and ornamental plants in North America. This transaction first and foremost underscores a disciplined approach to capital allocation; and second, is consistent with both our immediate needs and our vision of becoming a leader in global cannabis. Bevo will be managed by its existing management team who have over 85 years of agricultural experience, and have consistently demonstrated growth in revenue and earnings over the past decade. Collectively, they retain a substantial equity ownership position as they embark on a robust growth plan. As part of the transaction, we have identified a profitable opportunity to repurpose the Aurora Sky facility for orchid cultivation and vegetable propagation with minimal capital investment. This will greatly increase Bevo’s production capability and extended shipping range in Canada and the United States. It will also enable us to generate incremental revenue and adjusted EBITDA, while saving on previously announced wind-down and selling costs. The transaction is immediately accretive to Aurora, adding approximately $9 million of annual adjusted EBITDA, and importantly is another tangible step towards our goal of adjusted EBITDA profitability on a run rate basis by December the 31, 2022. We are pleased to have Bevo as our partner and expect our investment to drive significant shareholder value over the long run. Beyond the acquisition, we feel very good about our position in the market. Our optimism is based on the inherent strength of our global medical cannabis business where we remain the number one Canadian LP. Medical cannabis remains the best segment to invest in as is both defensive and stable in turbulent times and commands [enviable](ph) adjusted gross margins…

Glen Ibbott

Analyst

Thank you, Miguel. Good afternoon, everyone. We’re proud to have one of the strongest balance sheets among Canadian LPs, and I’m pleased that we strengthened it even further during Q4. But at the same time that we’ve been executing our cost reduction plan, we also repurchased $155.3 million in principal on convertible notes, with a total cost of $149.2 in cash and that’s including accrued interest. As of yesterday, we had approximately C$370 million of available cash and we have US$209 million principal remaining on the convertible notes. We believe that debt reduction, even though maturity is still more than a year out is a smart and defensive capital allocation decision that reduces balance sheet risk, especially important during turbulent markets. The debt reduction executed so far saving us cash interest cost of $9.5 million annually. We continue to have access to a shelf prospectus with US$713.7 million still available including US$186.2 million remaining under our ATM program, which we may utilize from time-to-time for strategic purposes. Our cash flow continues to improve with $22.5 million used in operations in working capital in Q4, compared to $39.3 million in the prior quarter. Q4 includes restructuring and severance payments of $6.8 million. We’re moving closer to our positive adjusted EBITDA target, as we have reduced our loss by $8.9 million versus Q4 of last year. If we compare to last quarter, Q3, our adjusted EBITDA loss increased by about $1.5 million and that’s driven mostly by a change in the Company’s sales channel mix. As Miguel mentioned, we also expect a positive contribution from our controlling stake in Bevo, which delivered EBITDA of $9 million for the year ending June 30, 2022. I should note that the Bevo business has a strong seasonal cadence with the period from January to June…

Miguel Martin

Analyst

Thanks Glen. Here are four brief takeaways before we take your questions. One, we’re better positioned than ever to achieve our goal of a positive adjusted EBITDA run rate as we exit the quarter in December of 2022, and we have listed out several data points that support that here today. Two, our medical cannabis business is a formidable force in the industry, both domestically and internationally. It remains the smartest cannabis segment to invest behind today, given the long-term growth opportunities, the high margins and the defensive nature of the segment described earlier. Three, the Canadian rec market is in the process of correcting. And as the recovery is complete, we will have added opportunity for market share and pricing. Four, our science and innovation program represents another high-margin opportunity that’s just started. To conclude, we are making significant strategic progress with each passing quarter, we’re nearing the completion of our business transformation plan, and have done so while strengthening our balance sheet. In addition, we’ve made two acquisitions in the past few months, Thrive and then Bevo, which underscores our ability to grow organically and through M&A, and we feel confident that we can create significant long-term shareholder value, particularly from these levels. We appreciate your time and interest in Aurora, and now be happy to take your questions. Operator, please open the lines for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Vivien Azer with Cowen. Please proceed with your question.

Vivien Azer

Analyst

So, I just wanted to dig on -- dig into some of the revenue versus volume dynamics that you guys experienced in the quarter. Maybe it’s as simple as FX headwinds, which we’re very familiar with covering large cap staples. But usually your revenues and volumes, at least directionally, move in tandem, and it seems like there was a bit of a divergence there. So I’m wondering if there is any geographic mix or other price mix considerations to call out please. Thank you.

Miguel Martin

Analyst

Glen?

Glen Ibbott

Analyst

Viv, I think what we saw was a bit of a mix change between consumer and medical. Our European medical did take a step down in the quarter, particularly in Germany as there is a cultivar there producing ran into few production problems. They are correctable. They are in process of being corrected. But -- so, what we then saw, if you’re looking at our average pricing, it’s something -- is that consumer particularly with the addition of driving stuff, it’s a greater impact from the consumer pricing than we normally see in the mix. So, that might be what you’re looking at. But other than that, I think it was just kind of business as usual in terms of volume. So, you get that impact from more volume right through on the consumer business and lower average pricing.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Michael Lavery with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question.

Michael Lavery

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question.

I just wanted to understand some of your thinking on the portfolio strategy a little bit more. The greenhouse synergies with Bevo makes sense and take advantage of just your particular situation and obviously add -- help add some EBITDA. But, are there any other adjacencies you’d be considering or that are on your radar, I guess just one part of it? And maybe related is just also as you think about the EBITDA target, is any more expected to come from M&A?

Miguel Martin

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. I mean -- so let me try to unpack that a little bit. I think as it pertains to M&A, our center of the play to where we sort of live is medical cannabis, global medical cannabis. And so, for that reason, certain things that have been of interest to others are probably not as much of interest to us. Secondly, our position on the U.S. I think is one that’s been validated. It’s going to take longer. I’m of the strong belief that it’s going to be a -- if it’s federal, it’s going to be a medical construct with the FDA involved. And clearly, given our dominance internationally on medical cannabis would have a lot of options there. So, if you take the U.S. out of the mix and you take maybe some other things out of the mix, you find certain things that maybe are more attracted to us than others. We liked Thrive and we’ve talked about that because of the management team and the ability to really support what I think important synergies between rec and medical. Bevo we think is just an absolute diamond in the rough, incredible propagator of science, has a really clever use of tax benefits as it pertains to Sky and has a big upside of growth for what we thought was a fair value, both for us and for their shareholders. So, I think Michael, we’ll continue to look at things like that. We’ve been terribly patient. As Glen was pretty eloquent about the balance sheet, it’s important to me that we have a really strong balance sheet, so we’re not going to chase there. But if things come up, we’ve got the fire power to go after them. The only other place that maybe is of more interest to someone like us than maybe others are those things that connect into medical cannabis. It’s my opinion, and I think it’s been proven out that you can make investments around medical cannabis, and those investments in some cases are portable around the world, infrastructure, systems, understandings around patients, and science, which is something we’ve made a lot of investments in and they now are just starting to pay dividends. So, steady as we go. I think, we’re pretty good shape. In terms of the EBITDA part, the reality is if we can hold revenues and margins flat from the current level and we can get SG&A under 30, you get there. And so, we expect to reach that type of SG&A by Q2 and we’ve shown a lot of progress. And I think, while some may have other questions, when we’ve said we’re going to do something around efficiencies, we’ve done it. And that SG&A would clearly be consistent with that.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Pablo Zuanic with Cantor Fitzgerald.

Pablo Zuanic

Analyst · Cantor Fitzgerald.

Miguel, I’m looking at a press release Tilray issued on September 6th, and it says “Tilray initiates roundtable with German regulators to kick-off draft legislation, to legalize adult-use cannabis in Germany.” And I’m wondering when I saw the press release, I said, well, I mean, I suppose that Aurora will soon issue a similar press release. So, I guess, the question -- the very basic question is, can you tell us, or give some color about your lobbying capabilities, your people on the ground, your potential seat at the table in helping draft the German program. Because again, I was surprised, Tilray issued a press release and we didn’t hear from you. And if I may add, a part B to the question, where do you guys stand today in terms of whether Germany will allow imports or it’s going to be initially mostly just domestic production? Thank you.

Miguel Martin

Analyst · Cantor Fitzgerald.

You got it. So, the first thing is I’m not here to comment on anybody. I have tremendous respect for my competitors, and what they do is what they do. But -- so I don’t really have any comment on that. In terms of the German market, we’ve made a significant investment in Germany. We have what we think might be one of the leading government relations, government affairs executives in Germany. He is having good conversations with the regulators. I’ve spent my whole career working on things like this in both, tobacco and alcohol, and they’re never a straight line. I think, as it pertains to Germany, there’s two things going on as you well know and you’ve written a lot about, is both enhancements to the medical business, which we’re very excited about as one of the leaders in medical cannabis in Germany, and secondly, is the legalization of the rec business. So, my understanding and our understanding is that industries -- what industry needs in order for that to be successful is being considered. The German government is -- almost always are being very thoughtful about the stakeholders and the timing in which this can be done in a compliant way. I would expect their learnings from medical will color how they so go about the implementation of rec business, which is why we think those companies that have facilities with the medical business who have advantages in rec, and as we said earlier, we’re one of only three companies that have a license to produce in Germany. Now specific to your question about in-country, I think the going in position I think for most folks should be that because of the UN conventions and just because of the way the regs are going to work for…

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Carter from Stifel.

Andrew Carter

Analyst

Focusing on the Bevo business, which we certainly have experience with covering Site One. Number one, do you see this platform to go deeper in this, given that this is a very fragmented space and you now have a team to run that? And then, the second you have the decision to repurpose Sky versus selling it, which -- that’s an opportunity cost that if you will kind of adds to the cost of acquisition. What kind of timeline are you giving the Bevo team to get this up to speed, achieve a return, versus if it didn’t go well, kind of returning to that original selling the facility and also getting rid of all of the costs associated with it?

Miguel Martin

Analyst

You got it, Andrew. So, first on Bevo, Bevo is a tremendous business, and you guys did cover it and so did others. I think it is a fallacy to say that Bevo didn’t work in that previous construct when it was connected to another cannabis company. Bevo did work. It’s just that combination did not work. We are not combining Bevo with Aurora from cannabis assets and non-cannabis assets. So, there’s that. Secondly, Bevo is a tremendous business. They have significant big box contracts, both in Canada and the U.S. And there is a lot of opportunity right now in North America for them to expand that business, both in Canada and the U.S. because of shipping costs. And many of the items that they produce are produced offshore in Asia and Southeast Asia. And so, they have tremendous opportunities there. And we’re excited about that, particularly since it can be done in a very capital-light manner. It’s not going to draw down cash resources from Aurora that would expand that. And the team that has so successfully run it is going to continue to run it. This is not -- Aurora does not pretend to have excellence in orchids or propagation. So, it was key for us to have those key folks, Leo and Andrew and those key guys over there to run it, and we are thrilled about that. As it pertains to Sky, listen, I don’t want to get too pumped-up about this. But the combination of the tax benefit, the repurposing, the changes in the tax designation and the upside that it presents very quickly for Bevo was a way better deal than being caught up with everybody else trying to sell cannabis assets. And at the end of the day, if they can’t get there, we can always sell it in that key Edmonton market. But the beauty, if there is such a thing, of all the money that’s been spent on Sky, is there is not a lot of CapEx or OpEx required by Bevo in order to generate revenue. So, as Glen mentioned, the Bevo business is a bit seasonal and it contributes more in our Q2, Q3 than it does in Q1. But to answer your question, I think we’ll know, in say next 9 to 12 months exactly what Sky means for Bevo. And if it doesn’t work out, we still have that optionality. But the offset of all the things I’ve mentioned make that play significantly a better advantage for Aurora than just selling it for pennies on the dollar.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Andrew Bond with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Andrew Bond

Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Hey. Good evening, Andrew Bond on the line for Owen Bennett. Thank you for taking our question. So, from us, on the international segment, can you give us some more detail on performance between markets? Not looking for an exact breakout, but I think last earnings call, you all discussed plans to launch extracts in the UK in 4Q and also some top market share positions in the other key markets like Australia, Germany, Poland. So, any detail on where sales came from in 4Q and where there might have been some weakness relative to 3Q? And if I could just sneak in maybe more broadly, how you would characterize growth ahead in fiscal ‘23? Thank you.

Miguel Martin

Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Sure. Let me take a top-line comment about international and some of those key markets, and I’ll Glen get into some of the details about it. So, as we said in our prepared remarks, it is really important to be operating in a lot of countries. You got to operate in the right countries. And so the reason for that is, these sales are still a bit lumpy. We’ve all seen that in what’s happened with Israel. But whether it’s import permits or shipments or the regs sort of evolving, you get these sort of months where have these sales and you have these months you don’t. Secondly, a lot of these investments can play out and really generate incremental margins and revenue, if they are laid over a broader system. So, the same production system, the same cultivars, the same genetics, the same a lot of things are similar to what we do in Germany, Czech Republic, Poland, on and on and on. Now, you have to have different distribution models to take advantage of those different pieces, and we have done that. And so, in most markets, we are just the manufacturer, but in other markets, we have a sales force and a wholesale piece. The Western European or the international market as a whole is absolutely growing and clearly is the fastest growing segment of global cannabis, which is this medical piece. And I will say that the regs are quite similar, whether that’s packaging, stability testing, manufacturing, EU GMP, there has been this sort of consistency and evolution that advantages a company like us. Now, in terms of the actual specifics on the country breakouts, Glen, I’ll turn that over to you.

Glen Ibbott

Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, thanks. So, I mean, we keep calling out the same countries as kind of the dominant ones for us in our network and that’s Germany, Poland, UK, and Australia. But to Miguel’s point, they definitely are lumpy, like Australia for instance in Q4 was up 75% from the previous quarter. But then as I look at Q1, it’ll come down again and Q2 looks good again. So, it’s very -- we’ve called it a lumpy or something, and that’s why it’s really important to have that portfolio, because for the most part our international business is fairly predictable, but country by country, as they develop and as they find where those barriers are that need to be knocked down, patient access, things like that. And that was definitely the story in Australia a year or two back when they had to improve patient accessibility, and then the market seems to be really kind of taking off. In terms of our extract in Germany, we did launch in Q4 -- late in Q4. So we don’t see much in terms of revenue in Germany, in Q4, but it is an important part of the competitive landscape there. So, we are in that market now, and we’ll report more as we go forward on how that piece of our business is going. So again, Germany, Australia, UK, Poland, being the predominant international medical markets for us right now. But I’d say, there’s probably at least four or five others that are contributing revenue in Q4.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Matt Bottomley with Canaccord Genuity.

Matt Bottomley

Analyst · Canaccord Genuity.

Just two questions for me on the revenue side of things. First just on the consumer sales in Canada, there’s a bit of a divergence I think was noted with respect to Aurora sales relative to the macro level data on some of these point of sales subscription services we all look like. So, Glen, you had mentioned some of the headwinds related to maybe the OCS website or some others. So I’m just wondering if you can give us a little more color on that. And the second question on revenue is just related to your international sales is the current $11 million to $12 million that you did in Q4. If that just stays flat for the sake of argument, is that sufficient to get you to your profitability targets on an adjusted EBITDA considering a lot of your margin does come from those sales. Thanks guys.

Miguel Martin

Analyst · Canaccord Genuity.

Yes. Let me comment on syndicated data, and then Glen can obviously give you the background. One of the gaps in some of this syndicated data that everybody looks at is Quebec. Quebec is our largest province in terms of sales. And so, it underweights what we’re doing. I think, generally the rec business overall for an LP is generally challenging. It was referenced before what happened with the hack, unfortunately in the OCS that caused about two weeks of disruption. They did an unbelievable job to get back up and running. We also saw the strike out in BC that had a pretty significant effect for a long period of time. That’s been cleaned up as well. I think, the combination of that, and retail stores feeling a lot of pressure plus compressed margins overall means you really have to be sort of focused in where we went and the Thrive team’s done a tremendous job. And you can still -- there’s still places you can find to make money, premium flower obviously, but vapes, concentrates, and some of the other things that they’re particularly good at. So I think, we’re going to be in this wash a little bit longer in terms of what the macro sort of issues are with rec. But when it comes out, there is tremendous amount of efficiencies for someone that does as well as we do in medical and rec to have some of those items, particularly as patients are starting to look for more premium items, and clinicians are starting to be more open to variety. So, Glen, you want to pick up the rest of it?

Glen Ibbott

Analyst · Canaccord Genuity.

Yes. Thanks very much, Miguel. Yes. So certainly, consumer revenue at the current levels would be more than adequate to get us to our profitability goal. If you -- certainly picking up the message that most of our gross profit is being generated out of our medical businesses. So, 86% in Q4, and that was a quarter where our international medical had a little bit of a pause. So, normal, the quarter before say Q3 was 90% of our gross profits were coming out of our medical system. So, absolutely as we see growth picking up again in Europe and Australia over the next number of quarters, Canadian business, the objective is to stabilize it, getting on good footing and give it a launch pad for growth in the future. But the short term plan is to really get to our profitability goal on the back of our medical businesses.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Frederico Gomes with ATB Capital Markets.

Frederico Gomes

Analyst · ATB Capital Markets.

So, just on the international side, we are seeing some increased competition in some markets, namely Israel, several other LPs and international companies exporting to different markets. So, can you talk about how you see that competition coming? Are you seeing any margin pressure in international? And what sort of advantages do you have to compete in your main markets, like Germany and Poland?

Miguel Martin

Analyst · ATB Capital Markets.

Sure. So, listen, I’ve spent a lot of time in Israel and Israel is obviously a key market for a lot of folks. The challenges we’ve talked about in Israel is they have a significant amount of local production. And clearly that has advantages. So, the import permits and the process, and the certification of Israel is sort of an evolving one. What we’ve said about that is that we’re not going to give any forward-looking guidance on Israel. But when we have a shipment, we always let people know because of the size of it. I’m not -- we haven’t had a shipment in a bit on Israel. I don’t think that’s a forever situation. But right now, it’s not as big a focus because -- and to your point, there has been a little bit of margin compression and a lot of people are fighting for that, including the local growers that have a lot of advantages. And I’ve got tremendous respect for that. Overall internationally because of the medical setup, we haven’t seen the type of margin compression that you’ve seen in the Canadian rec business or in the U.S. overall. And these are really hard markets to get into. Germany, which everybody talks about is about a 6 to 12-month process in order to even qualify a cultivar. The variance on the potency can only be 10% in their lab, which is a very difficult standard to get to. And there’s a significant amount of other work that you have to do around stability testing and whatnot. The other piece of this is the fact that patients are quite sticky. Once they find something they like, whether it’s ours or a competitive product, unlike rec where you see massive share movements between top SKUs, you don’t see that in the medical business. And there’s clearly first mover advantage, there’s clearly a consistency advantage to those companies that can keep stuff in stock and are rolled out of the medical market. So international cannabis, in most markets you’re seeing maybe four companies, possibly five companies making up the lion share of sales. As we’ve all talked about, Canadian rec as an example of top five companies do less than a third of the overall business. And so, I think the international business has proven to be sticky. And as you go forward with the advent of things such as clinical research, partnership with clinicians, these systems getting bigger, I think you’re going to still see in most markets, big markets like Germany that three or four companies will do the lion’s share of the business for a long time and we expect Aurora to be one of them.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of John Zamparo with CIBC. Please proceed with your question.

John Zamparo

Analyst · CIBC. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks. Good evening. I wanted to get back to Bevo. And if we think about the evolution of Aurora over time, it used to be a pretty broad, expansive business as multiple segments, then narrowed down to be purely cannabis. And Bevo is certainly outside the core strategy of what the company was. But what I’m wondering is, should we view this as Bevo was trying to optimize the decision with Sky, or do you want to further diversify the business away from pure cannabis at this point?

Miguel Martin

Analyst · CIBC. Please proceed with your question.

I think, John, and sorry, I know we talked about -- I missed you and your folks this week. Here’s how I would think about Bevo. Everything that we do is about being a global leader in medical cannabis. In order to do that, there are two things that we have been innately focused on. One is profitability and secondly is strengthening some core underpinnings that we think will be an advantage to that pursuit of global leadership in medical cannabis. Bevo was really interesting to us for a couple of reasons. One is about Sky. And so, the tax option there, the use of Sky, the ability for it to very quickly, without CapEx, produce a significant amount of predictable, profitable revenue was important to us. Secondly, there are synergies and efficiencies. We haven’t gotten into them yet and we are not going to do it in a disruptive way. But propagation has always been this sort of interesting play in cannabis. And while it’s done in the U.S., it’s not really done in Canada. And so, the excellence of 80 plus years around propagation, science, there will be things that will come out of the Bevo system or the Aurora system that will be additive. And as we look at agriculture, as a general sort of play and things around it, we do see it’s additive. Now, I don’t -- the concept of adjacency, I do believe in staying close to the core. But, if there are things that are profitable, there is a good value for our shareholders and is additive both financially and thematically, particularly from a science standpoint to our overall mission, I think we’re going to be interested in that. And I’m pretty proud of this deal for a lot of different reasons, but proof’s in the pudding and I don’t want to get over my skis too much on it. But this is a really great team, a really good use of assets, CapEx light and produces a lot of strength for us. So, we’ll see.

Operator

Operator

And our last question comes from the line of Tamy Chen with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Tamy Chen

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for squeezing me in. My question is on the science side, particularly the licensing of genetics. Miguel, I was just curious, this particular aspect of the science business, how do you see that fit within the overall Aurora business? Like, is this an area that you’re very-focused on you do want to expand? Like, what’s the opportunity size that you see? And I guess, the last part of the question I have is, whatever genetics that do come out of your R&D and innovation that are good, I’m just wondering like why don’t you just keep that for yourselves and grow it for your own business, whether it’s your own medical or consumer segment? Thank you.

Miguel Martin

Analyst

You’re very welcome. So, it is something we’re focused on. Aurora has spent an inordinate amount of time and effort on this. And it may be, I don’t want to say it is, but it may be one of the largest genetic facilities connected to cannabis in the world. And so, as it pertains to that, there are significant advantages, not just around variety and uniqueness of the cultivars, say chasing potency, and terp levels. Plant health, I referenced yield, Farm Gas is twice, 2x the yield per square meter than some of our historical cultivars that totally changes footprint and all types of different things that are going on. There’s incredible work being done on things like powdery mildew. And so, what I’ve seen is that when you look at other agricultural categories, there are companies that are not branded that are not participating from a manufacturing standpoint of selling their items, but they’re genetics, their science, and they are participating in those markets. And we’re all familiar with them. No, one’s really doing that today on a global scale, and we think there’s a space there. I also don’t view it as a conflict. We have about a 3 share in the rec business. We have a 24 share in the Canadian medical business. And we have enough assets in order to serve our pipeline, both domestically and internationally as well as sell that. And some of these licensing deals are very innovative and to be honest are not overly creative. And you see them in other categories such as soybean and vegetables and tomatoes and other things that were around because of some of our partnerships. And so, like I said, we’re excited about this. The last part of this, while there are some LPs doing this, there is a huge gap from particularly Canadian LPs and accessing world class genetics. They just haven’t done the work, and it’s not something you can snap your fingers and start up. This is a 5 or 10 year process in breeding and genetics and in training in order to be there. And so, we’re excited about what it means for us. And you see some of those -- some of that stuff in the market. We’re also excited about what it means, from -- for being able to sell it and generating revenue streams. Because the reality is we’re not going to have a 50 share of the rec business. And unlike some of my past businesses where we’ve been having these massive market shares, so there’s plenty of place to do it. And as this stuff evolves, it’s our hope we’ll be able to sell genetics internationally as well. So, I think it’s a great play. Almost the entirety of that spend is already accounted for. And we think there’s huge upside in not only for us, but for others in accessing those genetics and those incredible sort of science innovations.

Operator

Operator

We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. I’ll turn the call back over to Miguel Martin for closing remarks.

Miguel Martin

Analyst

Listen, I appreciate everybody’s interest. Our plan is absolutely on track. And I understand, as I mentioned with the regulations that the progression of a successful cannabis company is not a straight line. But in terms of the cost efficiencies we’ve done and will do what we’ve said. We’ve focused on those areas of the business that is profitable. And we do see an upside. And as these markets continue to come on line, it’s been medical first and then rec, and we think Aurora is in a great position. So we appreciate your support. We appreciate your interest. And we look forward to sharing our progress as we move forward. Best to all and your families, wish you all the best. And we’ll go from there. Thanks everybody.

Operator

Operator

And this concludes today’s conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.