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Albertsons Companies, Inc. (ACI)

Q2 2020 Earnings Call· Wed, Oct 16, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Albertsons Companies Second Quarter 2019 Conference Call, and thank you for standing by. [Operator Instructions] This call is being recorded. If you have any objections, please disconnect at this time. I would now like to turn the conference over to Melissa Plaisance, GVP of Treasury and Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Melissa Plaisance

Analyst

Good morning, and thank you for joining us for the Albertsons Companies' Second Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. With me today from the company are Vivek Sankaran, our President and CEO; and Bob Dimond, our CFO. Today, Vivek will touch on our recent results, share some observations, discuss some of our plans to grow and improve our business and provide an update in a number of key operating areas. Bob Dimond will then provide an overview of our second quarter results, and Vivek will then make some closing comments. I'd like to remind you that management may make statements during this call that include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Forward-looking statements are not limited to historical facts but contain information about future operating or financial performance. Forward-looking statements are based on our current expectations and assumptions and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results or events to be materially different from those anticipated. Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements will be contained from time to time in our SEC filings, including on Form 10-Q, 10-K and 8-K. Any forward-looking statements we make today are only as of today's date, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise any such statements as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Please keep in mind that included in the financial statements and management's prepared remarks are certain non-GAAP measures, and the historical financial information includes a reconciliation of net income to adjusted EBITDA. And with that, I will hand the call over to Vivek.

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

Thank you, Melissa. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. As many of you read this morning, we continue to make very good progress, and we are delivering solid results. During our second quarter, we had identical sales of 2.4%, and our adjusted EBITDA was approximately $568 million, representing 3.5% growth over the second quarter of last year, demonstrating the strength of our core business. The Q2 identical sales result was our seventh consecutive quarter of identical sales growth. This sales momentum is also driving steady EBITDA growth. I'm also pleased to report that as of the end of the second quarter of fiscal 2019, we have reduced our total leverage to 2.9x. Through the use of a combination of opportunistic asset sale proceeds and free cash flow from the business, we have reduced our debt balance by $1.8 billion year-to-date in fiscal 2019. We also refinanced and repriced our term loan complex during the quarter and issued new bonds as we capitalized on a favorable market and lowered our overall interest rate expense and extended our maturity profile. As Bob will cover further in a moment, we are very pleased with the outcome of our refinancing transactions and feel great about the financial flexibility it will afford us as we move forward. As I reported from our initial call, I continue to be encouraged about the prospects of our business and our ability to grow it as we enhance the customer experience in store and online and improve our operating performance. Over the last few years, we have brought together iconic retail bandwidths with rich heritage and a strong local following. We now have the ability to be locally great and nationally strong. With almost 2,300 stores and a robust online offering, we are important to…

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Thanks, Vivek, and hello, everyone. Total sales increased $153 million or 1.1% to $14.2 billion during the second quarter of fiscal 2019 compared to $14 billion during the second quarter of fiscal 2018. The increase in sales was primarily driven by our 2.4% increase in identical sales, partially offset by a reduction in sales related to store closures in fiscal 2018 and the first half of fiscal 2019 and lower fuel sales, mostly driven by lower average retail fuel prices. Our identical sales benefited from growth in Own Brands' sales and our 40% increase in online home delivery and Drive-Up and Go sales. Our gross profit margin increased to 27.8% for the second quarter of fiscal 2019 compared to 27.2% in the prior year. Our gross profit margin again benefited from industry-wide, better-than-expected fuel gross profit margins during Q2 of '19. Excluding the impact of fuel, the gross profit margin increased 30 basis points. Shrink expense was over 30 basis points better than a year ago, as we executed upon our initiatives around reducing shrink. Gross margin is also benefiting from increases in our Own Brands' penetration. These improvements continued to be partially offset by reimbursement rate pressure in our pharmacy business and higher distribution center rent expense. Selling and administrative expenses decreased to 26.8% of sales during the second quarter of fiscal 2019 compared to 27.2% of sales for the second quarter of fiscal 2018. Excluding the impact of fuel, selling and administrative expenses as a percentage of sales decreased 60 basis points during the second quarter of fiscal 2019 compared to the prior year. The decrease in selling and administrative expenses was primarily attributable to lower acquisition and integration costs as the store system conversions related to the Safeway integration were completed during fiscal 2018; and lower depreciation…

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

Thank you, Bob. We are pleased to see the momentum during the first 2 quarters of fiscal 2019 as our efforts, both in-store and online, are resonating with our customers. We are working to enhance the customer experience, building on our strength in fresh and local, extracting more value from our core stores, loyalty programs, eCommerce and Own Brands to win in the marketplace, to do so efficiently and effectively by enhancing productivity, strengthening supplier relationships, using technology to find a better way to do everything, adding to our talent pool and modernizing assets and infrastructure. And finally, we made great progress on our leverage profile and plan to continue to invest in the business and pay down incremental debt as we generate significant free cash flow, further reducing interest expense and increasing our financial flexibility. I will now turn the call back to the operator for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Jenna Giannelli with Goldman Sachs.

Jenna Giannelli

Analyst

I wanted to start off just asking around the top line and the comp performance. I know you called out direct-to-consumer and Own Brands growth as driving some of the acceleration. But I just -- given the strength that you saw, the improvement versus last quarter, is there anything else that we should think about? Do you feel like you're gaining market share? Maybe inflationary environment getting a little bit better? Anything else that we can think about that's really helping to drive that comp acceleration?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

Vivek here. Here is how I think about it. I think it's hard to isolate any one thing that drives our growth. And I go back to the 4 drivers of growth that I mentioned. Number one, we continue to focus on improving the condition and operations of our stores. It's something we do very well, and we're putting more technology into it. We're getting better at being in stock, assorting merchandising even more sharply locally. And so that's the foundation of our growth. On top of that, the Own Brands' program provides some innovation and variety that you can't get elsewhere. And we find that when you -- people who are engaged in our Own Brands' program spend more with us. Add to that, the loyalty program, and we find people coming back to our stores. That gives us an additional increment. And finally, we find even more when we add eCommerce to that same customer. And so that's why I come back to those 4 pillars of growth that are reinforcing and create a much greater share of wallet and create more stickiness with our customer.

Jenna Giannelli

Analyst

Great. And then just a follow-up on the gross margin line. As we think about the gross margin going forward, it sounds like we still might have quite a bit of tailwinds in the back half of the year. You called out a new pricing promotional tool in the fourth quarter, and then obviously, shrink improvement has been a tailwind. Can you talk to us a little bit about how much opportunity or incremental opportunity we could see on both of those fronts, both from shrink reduction and also the new tool you mentioned in the fourth quarter?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Sure. As far as continued opportunities in gross margin, you're right. We have had quite a trend here of improving shrink. We don't see that slowing down at all. So we should continue to see some improvements there. We've also been deploying a number of cost-of-goods reduction initiatives that will benefit the gross margin line. A few examples might be of things coming would be some opportunities that we see in reduced packaging costs, for example. And there's a whole other list of things that we're working on as well that improve that and possibly reduce SG&A and cost reduction.

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

But there's always puts and takes. We always -- we're always watching also where we should keep investing back into the business so that we remain competitive. And so we are working on this by getting the balance right so that we can sustain growth and get it all the way down to the EBITDA line.

Jenna Giannelli

Analyst

And then just finally, given the solid numbers that we've seen the past few quarters, stability, clear improvement, I guess, it's 2 parts. But do you have any plans to reintroduce full year guidance? And how are you thinking about potential monetization on the back of the earnings strength that you're seeing?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Yes. First of all, we are not providing any guidance at this point. We continue to be finishing or in the final stages of our comprehensive review of the business, and we plan on sharing our strategic plan in more detail as soon as that's finalized. So I'm not planning on providing anything further than that today.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of William Reuter with Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

William Reuter

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

The first is I think you took down your expectation for the number of remodeled stores this year. I guess does this speak to anything about what you're seeing in the performance of those stores? Or is it just timing of when they're going to be completed?

Robert Dimond

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Yes. It's strictly just timing, Bill, based upon where we're at. At this point, we're not taking down any of that run rate. Even still, at 220 to 240, that will keep us right on our target of remodeling about 10% of the store base each year.

William Reuter

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

All right. Good to hear. And then when we take out some of the onetime items out of SG&A, it looks to us like it was up about 2% year-over-year. Is this the context of inflation that you're seeing in light of some new union contracts and other wage pressures that are out there?

Robert Dimond

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

There are some increases each year that we have, and certainly increases in labor is one. But each year, we also try to offset that with other cost-reduction activities.

William Reuter

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Okay. And then lastly for me, there was an article in the journal today about ALDI and Lidl and how they're continuing to expand their number of stores. I guess when you see their stores opening in your markets, do you see any impact? Or is there pricing and product strategy different enough that they don't really impact you?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

We haven't seen any material impact when those stores open around us. We are -- we have fresh offering. We are a house of brands. We have full basket and a company's basket in our stores. I think that continues to remain an advantage for us with the customer base we serve.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Karru Martinson with Jefferies.

Karru Martinson

Analyst · Jefferies.

As you guys move to greater self-checkout, how should we think about that affecting your labor expenses in SG&A?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst · Jefferies.

So Karru, so the way to think about that, it does -- there is a labor productivity component to it, but we first focus on the experience for the customers. And at the front end, the way I think about it is we want customers to have 1 or 2 experiences. One is a smooth self-checkout, where they don't remember what happened. Or a warm and friendly customer service rep, where they've had a great engagement as they finish their shopping journey. And we're trying to balance both those on a consistent basis. And then we always think about investing this labor in different parts of the store, enhancing our fresh assortment, enhancing that service at different parts of the store where we continue to differentiate.

Karru Martinson

Analyst · Jefferies.

Okay. And while you guys are not providing guidance, I thought on the last call, you had said that you'd be year-end leverage around 3x, and we're kind of at that point today. I mean do we still feel that 3x is the right level for a year-end target?

Robert Dimond

Analyst · Jefferies.

Karru, I appreciate the question. Yes, we are at 3 -- at roughly 3x right now. Remember that in our third quarter, our -- we have our normal seasonal build of inventory. So you should expect third quarter will rise just a little bit as we're carrying that extra inventory for the holidays. And then as we sell through that by year-end, we should be back down to roughly the 3x.

Karru Martinson

Analyst · Jefferies.

Okay. And then you guys just repaid a bunch of debt. You issued new longer debt. You brought down leverage, and yet Moody's still has you as a BBB versus the BB- from S&P. I mean what needs to change here to be reflected in the rating agencies?

Robert Dimond

Analyst · Jefferies.

We had -- earlier this year, as we were having our year -- annual review with them, we did actually receive some modest upgrades in their outlook. We went from negative to stable, and I think they'll be looking carefully at our results this year. And given our debt pay down, well, we're hopeful that we'll see continued improvement here in the near future.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Bryan Hunt with Wells Fargo.

Bryan Hunt

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

Three questions for me. So when you look on your progress for your remodeling program in F Q2, can you discuss the sales lift you're seeing from the recent iteration of remodels? And maybe how the remodels have evolved over the last couple of quarters?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

Yes, Bryan, the way we think of remodels is we go through a process, and there are very different levels of remodels. Sometimes, it's just -- think of it more as a good maintenance stop shop, where we're changing refrigeration units and such. In another case, we are going through a whole rethinking of the store, and so we go through this whole range. In every case, we see a sales lift, there's no question about it. We see a healthy sales lift in the remodels that we do. And we just go through this process of finding each type and applying it based on what we think the potential of the store is and the condition of the store. Anything else you got there, Bob?

Robert Dimond

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

No, I think that's right. They do range, as Vivek indicated. Sometimes, we'll be looking at a potential remodel where maybe we're doing it to get ahead of a new store or another remodel that's coming in place. So the results do vary, but we are seeing increases generally.

Bryan Hunt

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

Can you discuss what the remodels year-to-date maybe have contributed to same-store sales growth? Or is that, at this point, not meaningful?

Robert Dimond

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

I don't have that number for you, Bryan.

Bryan Hunt

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

Okay. My second question, with eCommerce for you all, whether it's Drive-Up and Go or home delivery, varying reports around the industry relative to margin contribution compared to an in-store shop. I was wondering if you could discuss whether these transactions are dilutive or marginally accretive to EBITDA margins at this point in time?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

Yes, Bryan, at this point, they are dilutive. But the nice thing about what we are seeing is they're also incremental, right? So what we find is where the shopper who's shopping with us in-store engages online, their basket -- their spend with us goes up quite significantly. And so we're encouraged by that. And the reason it's dilutive is because for most of us in this industry today, it's not optimized from an operating standpoint. So for example, a big part of cost is in how you pick your product and fill the basket. And one of the things we're trying is something called a micro fulfillment center, right? So we're going to put that on the West Coast in 2 stores. One of them is operational already, and we keep finding ways to reduce the cost of the pick so that we can start getting to EBITDA margins that are -- where we're indifferent. And I think that will happen with time as we try different technologies and improve efficiencies.

Bryan Hunt

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

Very good, Vivek. And my last question is, you all have closed some stores, and you'll continue to do that. Again, when you look at same-store sales, was there a -- as well as EBITDA, is there a way you could discuss the accretion to same-store sales from closed stores as well as maybe the EBITDA accretion of some of those stores that were EBITDA negative?

Robert Dimond

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

Yes. Actually, Bryan, year-to-date, I think the closures have been fairly minimal. It's 14 stores of our total [ 800 ] store base. Roughly the same what we've opened. So I don't think it's material.

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

Yes.

Bryan Hunt

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

And I think in the last conference call, you said you're going to close maybe 50 stores this year. Is that still a good number?

Robert Dimond

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

No. I think what we said is that we had closed 55 last year. And this year, it's 14, we -- is what we've done in the first half. We continue to meet on a quarterly basis and go through a disciplined process where we evaluate the opportunities, we -- to improve any of the stores that might be underperforming at this point. Once we determined that something or a given store may not have an opportunity to improve, then we'll close it, but we're not anticipating huge incremental numbers.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Carla Casella with JPMorgan.

Carla Casella

Analyst · JPMorgan.

I'm wondering if the hurricane -- hurricanes affected any of your results this quarter?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Not really, not in the markets where we are because we are -- Carla, we are -- the hurricanes, without -- no, it didn't really. We didn't see much impact of that. [indiscernible] was largely affected.

Carla Casella

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Okay. I thought so but I wanted to just double check. And then any comments on the promotional environment? Do you see any differences in the promotional environment by -- market by market? Or any increase in competition?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst · JPMorgan.

We haven't seen any substantial change in the way we are competing in different markets relative to the last time we connected on the quarter. I think people are continuing to be vigilant on pricing. There's a big push -- everybody's pushing into omni-channel. It's the same things. And so no major difference.

Carla Casella

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Okay. And I may have missed it, but did you give what the outstanding balance remaining is on the -- is there any LP or the Safeway notes? I know you've done a bunch of repurchases in the quarter.

Robert Dimond

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Yes. I mean year-to-date, we've done roughly $1 billion of repurchases in bonds. I don't have that exact number, Carla. We can -- you can look on Bloomberg. It's got the updated numbers, but we'll be glad to follow up with you with a separate call.

Carla Casella

Analyst · JPMorgan.

No, that's okay. And it'll be -- if it's on Bloomberg update, that's great. They had been lagging on their updates, and I'm sure they'll be in the Q2.

Robert Dimond

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Right.

Carla Casella

Analyst · JPMorgan.

And then just one last one. Any outlook on fuel margins?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst · JPMorgan.

You have that?

Robert Dimond

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Yes. Let me take that one. We did, as we indicated, benefit by more favorable than normal, as I'm sure everyone else in the industry is reporting here in the first half of the year. We don't expect that to continue in the back half, in fact, it'll be a little bit of a headwind because you'll remember, in the third and fourth quarter last year, we had inordinately high margins as well. So it'd be hard to have -- to see that replicate, in fact, it will probably be back or upside down just a little bit.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Hale Holden with Barclays.

Hale Holden

Analyst · Barclays.

Just as a clarification to Jenna's question. You guys mentioned that you were in the process of a strategic review. I was wondering if that was related to like your tenure here? Or if it was normal course? Or if there was something we should expect changes that would be an outcome from this?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst · Barclays.

It's both. Hale, it's both my tenure and the novel course. And you've got some broad outlines of how we're thinking about the business in the commentary I gave you today, and we're going to continue to refine all aspects of that and be ready pretty soon.

Hale Holden

Analyst · Barclays.

Great. As a follow-up to that, I mean, you guys mentioned a lot of sort of data capture. I was wondering if you've given any thoughts to kind of alternative revenue streams, the way that Kroger has sort of phrased it, either from promotions or advertising that would be margin accretive?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst · Barclays.

So Hale, I don't like to use that language, but here's how we think about it, right? The first thing you have to remember is the 4 growth engines I talked about, stores, Own Brands, loyalty and eCommerce. And it's that combination that gets customers to stick with us, spend more with us, be loyal to us and churn less. And we understand more and more about their shopping patterns as we do that. That builds the data. That builds the data that's rich and actionable. And eventually -- first of all, we use it and then we make it available to all our CPG partners who are capable of using it and want to use it. And so that's how we tend to do that. They benefit from it, and therefore, we benefit from that. And that's how we see it. So I go back to -- we got to get the score right, and then we can build on that and monetize things in various ways. But that's secondary, not a primary objective of ours.

Hale Holden

Analyst · Barclays.

Makes sense. And then I just had one last question. There have been some press reports that Amazon is considering opening grocery stores in Chicago and L.A., which would seem to be -- put them kind of in your bigger DMAs. I was wondering if you guys had done a game theory thinking on what that would mean for you if that actually occurred. I know it's hard to guess.

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst · Barclays.

It's hard. Here's how I think about it, Hale, it's hard to guess because we don't know what the stores are going to be and such. But we take our comfort in a couple of things. First that they do believe that a footprint, a physical footprint is required, and we have great physical footprint in the markets that we operate in. The second thing is there competitor was extremely customer-centric and makes everybody in the market better. So I just -- I can't comment on anything specific because we don't have those specifics.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Ryan Bloom with Hartford. Ryan Bloom;Hartford Investment Management;Senior Vice President: So I wanted to start out and maybe ask Jenna's question a little bit differently. So in terms of sustainability or maybe length of time frame in which you could see these type of improvements from more targeted advertising promos, how far out do you think you can continue to refine this? Or is it just a 1-year type of event?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

Ryan, I -- we are -- there are no magic bullets in what we are doing is how I'd phrase the [ crime ]. We are doing all the things that are the fundamental drivers of growth better. And in that vein, we see our ability to keep improving that. I mean there's no limits to how much we can improve that. As an example, if I talk about pricing promotions. We've got pricing promotion capability today. And one of the things we do well is we have multiple markets where we operate locally, and so there's innovation of pricing promotions coming out of every market. They might think about a different way to put that flyer out every week. A different way to bring traffic in and drive a basket. And we take these practices and keep driving it around. Then we're going to introduce more advanced tools and capabilities. To put these more advanced tools and capabilities, you have an AI engine on top of that, and that keeps improving. So there's no magic bullet. It's just a sense of priorities with a few things we're going to do and continuous improvement on it. Ryan Bloom;Hartford Investment Management;Senior Vice President: Okay. That's helpful. And then if I could also ask you, like I'd love to understand your thought process in terms of using micro fulfillment centers, preferring those over larger scale warehouses. Or do you think ultimately you wind up investing in both? What would be your -- the advantage or the thought process behind the bend towards micro fulfillment right now?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

Ryan, who knows how all this plays out? But here's our belief. We have -- we are in great locations. And why are we in great locations? Our stores happen to be very close to where people live. I mean just -- we've been around for a long time. We've picked off the best real estate, and we happen to be very close to where people live. And so our philosophy is that why not give the ability to pick up product or deliver product from those places, which are the best DCs close to population. And these micro fulfillment centers provide a great option to provide -- to get real productivity, a real productivity in how we take these orders, whether it's a Drive-Up and Go order or delivery order. And so we're going down that path, and we're going to learn from it. We're going to have our first 2 operational in about a month, and we'll learn from that. Ryan Bloom;Hartford Investment Management;Senior Vice President: And then just 2 last ones. One, have you identified the total amount of your investment in DCs over the next year, 2 years? Or maybe if you want to frame it over a larger time frame, total investment there and any savings associated with it? And then the last question, I'll just say is, are there any product categories that you've curtailed and replaced with Own Brands as a result of the Safeway integration process?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

Let me take the Own Brands question first. Look, we don't believe in -- our Own Brands portfolio is in multiple categories, and the way we think about it is we offer an opening price point. And in many, many cases, we're offering something innovative and different that the CPGs have not sought, okay? I gave you a great example of our Own Brands Cauliflower Pizza, fantastic product and differentiated from what we have from the CPGs. And so we play that. And we're not pointing to any one category or another, we just go and fill the gaps that are not -- and enhance the categories, frankly, right? With the DCs, it's part of our strategic plan. We will have that as we go through. We think we have had a lot -- the first automation we have done has showed a lot of promise so we've started the second one, it's showing a lot of promise. And we've continued to drive that through, and we'll understand that more as we go forward.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Kenneth Williamson with JPMorgan.

Kenneth Williamson

Analyst · JPMorgan.

A lot of my questions have been answered, but a couple of housekeeping, if I could. Can you refresh us on what run rate rent expense should be on an annual basis and where it was in the quarter, kind of pro forma for the sale -- the property sales you've done?

Robert Dimond

Analyst · JPMorgan.

I don't have the full run rate of rent expense. Maybe this will help you. In the quarter, second quarter, we had $22 million of incremental rent expense that pertains to sale leaseback. And you should expect that, that kind of rough increase will continue in quarters going forward.

Kenneth Williamson

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Okay. That's helpful. And then just as you kind of look at the landscape and your scale and the overall store footprint, are there any M&A opportunities out there for you that you think are attractive? Or is that not a part of the strategy at this point?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Kenneth, we are always looking for opportunities. It's opportunistic tuck-ins. You know we're good at it, and we'll keep -- but it's not a fundamental pillar of our strategy.

Operator

Operator

Our last question this morning comes from the line of Geoff McKinney with Citi.

Geoffrey McKinney

Analyst

Just one final one. In Northern California, was there any impact from the power outages that occurred in the last couple of weeks?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

Geoff, we had a number -- looks like probably an echo. Hopefully, you can hear me. We had a number of stores that we had to close, 27 stores that were affected by it. But here's the thing, we are still doing the math on all of it. Because people hear fire engines coming, there was a bunch of -- the people shopped heavily, early before the stores closed. And so we're going to do all the math, and we'll have a better sense of what the total impact is in the next few weeks.

Geoffrey McKinney

Analyst

And would you expect that any kind of lost sales would ultimately end up on the other side of the restoration of power?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

Yes. I think the way this typically works here, enough people -- people pick up product before the closure and then they come back after the closure. I tell you one of the things I'm most proud about is how the team handled what was right for the community. With some of the communities, we were the only store open that could -- that people could come and pick up water and food and whatever they needed. And so I'm really proud of what the team did there, but there's puts and takes. This is not something we go through often, so we're going to have to learn from what happened here right now and we'll do the math. But overall, it's hard for me to tell which way this all shakes out for those stores.

Operator

Operator

That concludes our question-and-answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Ms. Plaisance for any final questions -- comments.

Melissa Plaisance

Analyst

Thanks for participating today. If you have any follow-up questions, Cody Perdue and I will be available in balance of the day to follow up with you. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.