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Operator

Operator

Good morning. Welcome to AECOM's Third Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. I would like to inform all participants, this call is being recorded at the request of AECOM. This broadcast is the copyrighted property of AECOM. Any rebroadcast of this information in whole or in part without the prior written permission of AECOM is prohibited. As a reminder, AECOM is also simulcasting this presentation with slides at the Investors section, at www.aecom.com. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call over to Will Gabrielski, Vice President of Investor Relations.

Will J. Gabrielski - Vice President, Investor Relations

Management

Thank you, operator. Before reviewing our fiscal 2015 third quarter results, I would like to direct you to the Safe Harbor statement on page two of today's presentation. Today's discussion contains forward-looking statements that may include projections of growth and future profitability as well as risks and uncertainties. Actual risks may differ significantly from those projected in today's forward-looking statements. Please refer to our press release, page two of our earnings presentation, and our reports filed with the SEC for more information on the risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from projections. Except to the extent required by applicable law, we take no obligation to update any of our forward-looking statements. We are using certain non-GAAP financial measures in our presentation. The appropriate GAAP financial reconciliations are incorporated into our press release, which is posted on our website. Please also note that all percentages refer to year-over-year progress, except where otherwise noted. Additionally, we may refer to certain metrics on a constant currency basis. Our discussion of financial results and our outlook exclude the impact of acquisition and integration-related expenses, financing charges in interest expense, and the amortization of intangible assets unless otherwise noted. Please turn to slide 3. Beginning today's presentation is Mike Burke, AECOM's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Mike? Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Thank you, Will. Welcome, everyone, to our fiscal third quarter earnings call. Joining me today is Steve Kadenacy, President and Chief Financial Officer. I will begin with an overview of AECOM's results and discuss the trends across our diverse business. Then, Steve will review our financial performance and outlook in greater detail. We will conclude with a question-and-answer session. Please turn to slide 4. We had a successful quarter on several fronts. We delivered strong…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our first question comes from Steven Fisher with UBS. Please go ahead.

Steven Michael Fisher - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

Thanks, good morning. Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Good morning, Steve.

Steven Michael Fisher - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

Good morning. I think you attributed the low Construction Services margin to ongoing oil and gas challenges. I was just trying to get a sense of how to think about that going forward. I mean, I know it's a low margin business to begin with, but are there certain mix elements that can help out going forward and since you have the oil and gas stuff sort of under control now? Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Yeah. I mean, Steve, first of all, the quarter is a bit of an anomaly, I should say the year is a bit of an anomaly in that we had, as you know, a precipitous drop-off in revenue side. We have undertaken a very significant restructuring of that business and have taken out significant costs. So trying to extrapolate anything from this year is probably not going to be helpful. But once we get through the cost take-out this year, next year we'll return to much greater profitability in the overall Construction Services segment.

Steven Michael Fisher - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

Okay. And I know you cited the 1.5 times book to bill on Americas design, but your overall design book to bill was much lower than that. Can you talk about what are the particularly weaker areas? And then within that 1.5 times, I know in the past, there's been challenges in getting those awarded projects moving forward into revenues. How do you feel about that today? Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Yeah. Steve, the overall book to bill is 1.1 times, but that did include a significant re-class of all the URS backlog into IDIQs that they had classified as actual backlog according to our definitions. We put it often IDIQs, it's not a change in value of our overall backlog. So that's why you see some somewhat of a disconnect in the significant book-to-burn that we have within our individual groups there. So if you back that out, our Americas DCS business inflected in the quarter and had over $1.6 billion in wins for a 1.5 times book-to-burn.

Steven Michael Fisher - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

Okay. I'll turn over. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jamie Cook with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead. Jamie L. Cook - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker): Hi, I guess a couple of questions. One, Steve, just if I look at your guidance for the year, the fourth quarter implies, I think $0.93 to $1.33, that's a pretty wide range for one quarter. I recognize the incremental benefit the $0.08 you're getting from the non-cash normal profit. But still that just seems like a wide range. So, and quite frankly, I think it's hard for me to under whatever circumstance for you to get to the mid to the high range based on where we are for the -- what we've seen in the first three quarters. So can you just sort of help me understand that? And then, I guess my question relates to the free cash flow, I recognize that you did lower your CapEx. Why did you lower your CapEx and given the lower CapEx and assuming the collections in the fourth quarter are pretty good, why isn't it the mid to high end of the range more likely in terms of your $600 million to $800 million free cash flow estimate or is there something or things moving in wrong direction? Thanks. Stephen M. Kadenacy - President & Chief Financial Officer: Sure, Jamie. On the EPS outlook, I think you can put a bell curve around our range there. We didn't adjust the breadth of the range largely because we can see – to the upside, we can see to the down side given the volatility in the marketplace. But I would put your bell curve around the midpoint of that range. On the cash side, listen we're burning $4.5 billion of revenue that means we got to collect $4.5…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Michael Dudas from Sterne Agee. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Michael S. Dudas - Sterne Agee CRT

Analyst · Sterne Agee. Your line is open. Please go ahead

Good morning, gentlemen. First question, Mike, you mentioned in your prepared remarks, I think it was you, Mike, about some significant visibility in potential wins for 2016 in the energy industrial area. Could you maybe elaborate a little bit more on what you're seeing and are some of those targets better positioned because of the combined URS AECOM versus what it'd have been before? Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Yeah, John (sic) [Mike], absolutely. We saw in the E&C business year-over-year, we had a 7% pickup in growth in our backlog in that space. And a lot of it is due to the reciprocal side of the oil and gas downturn. So where we're seeing businesses that benefit from lower oil and gas prices, we're seeing some great opportunities there. So it's either in combined cycle plants that are gasification type projects, nitrogen fertilizer, urea type fertilizer plants that benefit from low gas feedstock. And so we're seeing some pretty good opportunity there. And I also mentioned the coal ash opportunities that we're a market leader in that place and companies are having to deal with their coal ash issues. We're also seeing new regulations dealing with carbon issues that will be helpful to us as we were a real dominant force in that arena back when all the air quality scrubber regulation came out. So we see an uptick in that business also.

Michael S. Dudas - Sterne Agee CRT

Analyst · Sterne Agee. Your line is open. Please go ahead

I appreciate that. Second, my follow-up is you mentioned in your remarks about a significant slowdown or pretty sharp slowdown in China. Is that a recent phenomenon or can you maybe elaborate more on that. And do you see any impact of Chinese wealth and some of the investments in some of the major projects in the Western Hemisphere start to show up a little bit because of that or do we anticipate that as you're trailing into 2016? Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Yeah. So a great question, John (sic) [Mike]. Let me put that in context. So, first of all, oftentimes when we talk about China, we talk about Greater China, which includes both PRC, Hong Kong and Taiwan. So I was specifically referring to the PRC, Mainland China. And just to be clear, it represents less than 2% of our operating income. Our much greater business is in Hong Kong where we have 5,000 people. That business continues to grow and continues to perform extremely well. But Mainland China has slowed down quite a bit. Most of our work there is in the private sector. It has slowed down. But when I look at the Asia reason as a whole, Hong Kong and Taiwan are still doing well. We are very bullish on Southeast Asia that is growing significantly, as well as India with the new relationship with the United States. So I just want to make sure I put that in context. But Mainland China itself is slowing sharply as you're seeing across many other companies reporting very, very similar issues. Secondly, the second part of your question, Mike, is that when you look at the foreign direct investment coming out of China into the major markets of the world, we are seeing a very significant uptick there. So whether it'd be we were hired by Oceanwide, the Chinese company to build the second tallest tower in San Francisco, the work that we are doing with the Chinese developers like Greenland out of Shanghai, we're working for them in New York, Toronto, London. Now here in L.A. the Metropolis project. It is a big momentum right now coming out of China into the major markets of the world. And we are better positioned than anybody to do that work because of our construction capabilities in these markets and our strong Chinese relationships on the Mainland. So we're getting well more than our fair share of that business, which is one of the drivers of our 50-plus% organic growth in our Construction Services sector.

Michael S. Dudas - Sterne Agee CRT

Analyst · Sterne Agee. Your line is open. Please go ahead

I appreciate your answers. Thank you very much. Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Sure. Thanks, Mike.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Brian Konigsberg with Vertical Partners. Please go ahead.

Brian Konigsberg - Vertical Research Partners LLC

Analyst · Vertical Partners. Please go ahead

Yes, hi. Good afternoon. Good morning. Wanted just to maybe hit a little bit more on the Q4 guidance. I understand, Steve, that you are saying that the midpoint is – you feel comfortable with that being the center of the bell curve. But can you just maybe talk about what actually is going to be the drivers to get to the midpoint? I mean, are we looking for accelerated top line? Do you think margin actually starts to improve meaningfully? I understand, like you said before, the fair margin value contribution, but what else is in there that gets you to the midpoint, if you could build that up for us? Stephen M. Kadenacy - President & Chief Financial Officer: Well, normal margin for us is really just kind of a pass-through accounting adjustment. So we've been clear on what we expect relative to normal profit. But we tend to accelerate into Q4. Our historical averages are in the – between 30% and 35% of our earnings for the year come in Q4 and the midpoint of the range is in line with that. So we're relying on continued acceleration of the business in the construction season and executing on the projects that we have in the flow and hopefully continuing to execute on our cost reduction efforts within the oil and gas business, which to-date we've taken out over $80 million in that business of costs. We have line of sight to exceeding our target of $100 million and that execution will help us as we transition from Q3 to Q4 in that business as well.

Brian Konigsberg - Vertical Research Partners LLC

Analyst · Vertical Partners. Please go ahead

Great. And if I could, just a little bit more on restructuring. So you still plan on having a run rate of – your synergy of $180 million, you're saying oil and gas over $100 million. How much of that are you realizing for the bottom line? Is the business itself absorbing a lot of that? Or are you able to realize most of the savings? Stephen M. Kadenacy - President & Chief Financial Officer: Well, we're definitely getting the synergies. We have clear visibility into the cost that we've taken out. On synergies alone, we exited the quarter at $144 million. Those costs range from back office, finance, HR, IT, procurement, corporate expenses that have come down, the real estate is a really big driver. But there's no question that some of those synergies have gotten absorbed in the downturn in the oil and gas market. It's impacted our year significantly. But we've been able to absorb that with our execution around the business and not having to change our core fundamental guidance through three quarters.

Brian Konigsberg - Vertical Research Partners LLC

Analyst · Vertical Partners. Please go ahead

Just to be clear, though, the $100 million in cost take-out in oil and gas is separate and apart from the $180 million? Stephen M. Kadenacy - President & Chief Financial Officer: That's right.

Brian Konigsberg - Vertical Research Partners LLC

Analyst · Vertical Partners. Please go ahead

In synergies. Okay. Stephen M. Kadenacy - President & Chief Financial Officer: That's right. Having said that, that hasn't fallen to the bottom line there where that business has not been accretive to our earnings in the year. And we don't expect it to. We've been clear that our forecast of oil and gas for the full year was that even though overall that business is somewhere around 15% if you include our environmental services segment of our top line that it wasn't contributing to the bottom line, and that cost take-out has enabled it not to be dilutive to our earnings.

Brian Konigsberg - Vertical Research Partners LLC

Analyst · Vertical Partners. Please go ahead

Understood. Thanks very much. Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: You're welcome.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Tahira Afzal with KeyBanc. Please go ahead.

Tahira Afzal - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Good morning, folks. Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Good morning.

Tahira Afzal - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

First question is, I know there's a lot of skepticism around the transportation bill but hypothetically, if it goes through, would love to get a sense of what it would mean to AECOM. What it will have meant as a stand-alone company, but now with also URS in the mix? Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Tahira, it would very important to us. We have had years and years of short-term fixes to the transportation bill and what we really need is a long-term fix. And the reason why a long-term fix is more meaningful to us than others is that for the largest scale projects, the kind of projects where we excel, where we are known for the largest projects and our capabilities on those large projects, those projects require long-term visibility to funding. And so, those projects get stalled when you only have short-term fixes because nobody wants to commit to a long-term project without long-term funding. And so a six-year type transportation bill, which we would consider very long-term based on recent history, would be very appealing to us and very beneficial to us both historically as well as a combined company. So I feel moderately bullish on something happening not in the very near future but moderately bullish that something will happen before the elections next year and quite bullish that something will happen after the election. There seems to be bipartisan support for tying a longer-term transportation bill together with some type of international tax reform, in particular the tax on repatriated earnings which seems to have bipartisan support. And there's not many things that have bipartisan support right now in Washington, but that's one of them.

Tahira Afzal - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Right, right. And we're hearing something pretty similar given all the Senate changes in terms of votes that have happened there, so let's all hope it goes through. Second question is your top line has been improving progressively over the last three quarters. Your scrub G&A numbers have actually been going down, which is commendable. So can you kind of give us an idea. Obviously, we've started to see some of this integration helping out there. What should we consider your run rate for G&A to be going forward into the fourth quarter and onwards? Stephen M. Kadenacy - President & Chief Financial Officer: Tahira, this – G&A is an interesting number from a GAAP perspective, because we reclassed so much of our SG&A up into cost of sales. So what do you see left there is not a real number and somewhat volatile, because it's a low base. But what you do see in there, if you look at it on a year-over-year basis and if you went back to URS' G&A and combined it with AECOM's, is a significant reduction. And that's largely due to the duplicative nature of corporate G&A between the two companies that we've been successful at taking out. On a go-forward basis, I think that although because it's such a low base it could be volatile, but your – the $24 million is probably in the range.

Tahira Afzal - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Got it. Thank you very much. Operation: Our next question comes from Jeff Volshteyn with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Jeffrey Y. Volshteyn - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Thank you for taking my question. And just following up on the previous question, what do you see as far as availability of government funding for major infrastructure projects outside of the United States in your key international markets, perhaps Europe and Asia Pacific? Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: So we continue to see support for those type of projects in those regions. Although in Europe there seems to be more private money public/private partnership concept is decade ahead of our market in terms of development. So, there is more private money in those markets than you see otherwise. But I mentioned in my comments earlier about the Asian Development Bank and the investments that Japan is making across Southeast Asia on infrastructure, we continue to see very robust markets in Southeast Asia. The European market – we're experiencing very good organic growth in the European markets. You heard us talk about that earlier, and overall, the government support seems to be there.

Jeffrey Y. Volshteyn - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

And then domestically you spoke about the water infrastructure opportunity. Is there a way to quantify it at this point? Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: I don't know that I can give you a specific quantification other than that it was projected to be $40 billion of overall investment in that period, a year. But I think that's the best quantification, I can give you. It's a pretty big market. The demand is there as evidenced by the drought in California, there is something needs to be done.

Jeffrey Y. Volshteyn - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Okay. Thank you very much. Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Sure.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Adam Thalhimer with BB&T. Please go ahead. Adam Robert Thalhimer - BB&T Capital Markets: Thanks. Good morning, guys. Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Good morning. Adam Robert Thalhimer - BB&T Capital Markets: The organic backlog growth continues to decelerate still growing but at a lesser rate. What's the primary cause of that? Stephen M. Kadenacy - President & Chief Financial Officer: The backlog fundamentally and actually increased pretty significantly as I mentioned it earlier in one of the questions, we had a re-class to IDIQ. So if you add that back into a pretty significant increase sequentially. And as we mentioned, we have a 1.1 times book-to-burn, which would indicate the fundamental backlog is growing and building construction even though it's brining significantly continues to have a book-to-burn greater than one. Adam Robert Thalhimer - BB&T Capital Markets: So organic backlog is up 2% year-over-year in the quarter, but it would have been higher than that under the old way you treated IDIQ? Stephen M. Kadenacy - President & Chief Financial Officer: Correct. Adam Robert Thalhimer - BB&T Capital Markets: Okay. And then digging on one of your end markets, the Federal/Support Services, what – how are you in general – what's your feeling about the government spending trends? Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: So the government spending continues to increase. When people talk about sequestration and talk about slowing it's slowing the rate of growth, it's never shrinking the actual spend. If you look at our pipeline today, we have a pipeline of $32 billion of projects that we're pursuing in that space. And why we're so bullish on it now is that the combined capabilities of legacy AECOM and legacy URS together, give us a…

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from John Rogers with D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead. John Bergstrom Rogers - D. A. Davidson & Co.: Hi, good morning. Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Good morning. John Bergstrom Rogers - D. A. Davidson & Co.: Just a couple of the follow up things. Mike, you talked about the Meridian sales in the fourth quarter and give – a little bit in third quarter $38 million. What's the gain on that? Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: So without getting into too much specific the – it was $0.01 impact or $9 million overall in the Q3. John Bergstrom Rogers - D. A. Davidson & Co.: Right. Right. Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: The LP interest that we've entered into a contract to sell – so it's a contract, so it hasn't closed, I want to be careful, but suffice to say, they are mid-teen returns on those LP interest. John Bergstrom Rogers - D. A. Davidson & Co.: Okay. And is there – as you sell those interest off, is there revenue associated with that that you have because of that? Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Yes, we have – not because of the sale obviously, but... John Bergstrom Rogers - D. A. Davidson & Co.: No, no, but because of the relationship... Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: ...our relationship with Meridian over the years, we have worked on many of the projects that they have invested in. I don't know the number off the top of my head of how much revenue came from Meridian-specific projects. But obviously, Meridian was created by the management team of AECOM. So we have a very good relationship…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Rob Norfleet with Alembic Global Advisors. Please go ahead.

Nicholas K. Chen - Alembic Global Advisors LLC

Analyst · Alembic Global Advisors. Please go ahead

Hey, this is actually Nick Chen for Rob Norfleet this afternoon. Thank you so much for taking our call. Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Sure, Nick. Stephen M. Kadenacy - President & Chief Financial Officer: No problem.

Nicholas K. Chen - Alembic Global Advisors LLC

Analyst · Alembic Global Advisors. Please go ahead

Great. So I had two questions. The first one is, I was hoping you could just give us an update on what the competitive environments are like right now across all three segments. Specifically with competitive nature of the business in just pricing, are you seeing any of the non-traditional players competing for work in markets that they wouldn't have before given the depressed price in the energy markets? Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Not really. There is – of course, pricing always gets a little tighter when you have such a precipitous drop in oil and gas. But you're really not seeing non-traditional players moving into the spaces that we're in. So not much of a change there, just there's less revenue to go around. The competition on the federal government side has not changed at all, the margins have not changed. And similarly, in our designs business.

Nicholas K. Chen - Alembic Global Advisors LLC

Analyst · Alembic Global Advisors. Please go ahead

That's really helpful. Thanks so much. And then just finally, looking at burn rates going forward, it sounds like you're going to be bidding on some larger work, specifically in DCS and CS. Should we expect to see less revenue recognition from backlog in 2016 and beyond? Stephen M. Kadenacy - President & Chief Financial Officer: No. I don't think so. We would expect, given where our backlog has been going and the fact that even though we've been burning a fair amount, we've been successful in keeping our backlog increasing during that time that that is the best indicator of our future revenue. And we're seeing organic growth, as you know.

Nicholas K. Chen - Alembic Global Advisors LLC

Analyst · Alembic Global Advisors. Please go ahead

That's very helpful. Thanks so much, guys. I'll hop back into the queue. Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Great. Thanks, Nick.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Andy Wittmann with Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead. Andrew J. Wittmann - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker): Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to dig into the DCS segment a little bit and understand a little bit both about kind of the top line and understand kind of the pieces that added up to the negative organic growth rate in the quarter, geographies or end markets. And then also given the backlog there, at least the contracted backlog, down a little bit – should we expect that backlog to burn faster or slower specifically? I don't know if it's kind of a dovetail to the last question, but that backlog in particular, how do you expect the burn rate in that compared to history? Stephen M. Kadenacy - President & Chief Financial Officer: Well, DCS business definitely declined in the quarter. That was largely driven by the Americas design contracting in the quarter by about 10%. So that's still weighing on us. I think we take solace in the fact that, again, we had 1.5 times book-to-burn in the Americas design business. So our view is that that is a positive sign for future FY 2016 and we don't have any indication that the pace of bookings and revenue burn would fundamentally change from where we are today. The quality of the bookings are good. So we're not viewing anything as fundamentally changing in that sector. Andrew J. Wittmann - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker): Okay. That's helpful. Mike, your earlier comments on expectations for the construction management segment, particularly relates to oil and gas, was that this is not a good year to look at because of all the restructuring that's going on. Does…

Operator

Operator

And our final question comes from Tahira Afzal with KeyBanc. Please go ahead.

Tahira Afzal - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Sorry, folks. One last question for you. And it's really on end markets again. I know China is going through a sharp downturn, but there is a chance that they might announce a restructuring plan. And it seems it's pretty much aimed at policy bonds aimed on developing cities, some of the smaller cities there. Would you venture there if that was the case? Or you want to stick to the safe areas that you are comfortable with? Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: It depends on what type of city work it is, Tahira. The city – the master planning development work that was the core heart of our business in China. We were not doing traditional transportation infrastructure, for instance, in Mainland China. Obviously, we're a very strong force in Hong Kong in that arena. But in Mainland China, that is exactly the work we are doing. So if they are going to put together some type of stimulus restructuring plan that would focus on new city development, that's our sweet spot, and we would benefit from that.

Tahira Afzal - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Got it. Thank you very much. Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we have no further questions. I would like to turn the call back to Mike Burke for final remarks. Michael S. Burke - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Thank you, operator. I think the bottom line is we're really pleased that we are through the most critical stages of our integration. The real hard work of the past 10 months or so on integration is behind us. And while we have a number of uneven global markets and trends in front of us that are creating some volatility, we're beginning to see some of the wins and opportunities resulting from the new enhanced capabilities of the combined organization. So we are encouraged by what we see in front of us. The hard work of the integration is behind us. The enhanced revenue opportunities are in front of us. And the future certainly looks a lot brighter from here. So hopefully you share our enthusiasm, and we'll look forward to talking to you on our next earnings call. Thank you.