David Wang
Analyst · Needham & Company
Yes. Actually, that's this way. Looking at gross margin, right, we are the probably top of the equipment company in China, right, for gross margin, right, for the last few years. And as you said, Q4 of -- Q4 last year, we do see our first time gross margin is lower than our range, 40% to 48%, right? As we explaining maybe 3 factors. One is the product mix. We have 1 or 2 products, which is a semi-critical tool, do have pressure from the competitor for pricing there. The next one is really this inventory provision. But we think this year, as we are new product coming, as I mentioned, the 3 products coming will definitely enhance our margin. And also our inventory provision, we believe will be also greatly reduced too. So with that, we still have confidence we're in the 42% to 48% gross margin in this year or beyond. And more than that is, as you said, we put quite a bit of R&D last year, right? It used to be R&D 13%, 14%. This -- last year, we're getting to 16%. We probably will keep that number in a way. Why? The next few years, AI is driving a lot of demand for the new technology. And everybody else, first tier company outside China, all people put a lot of R&D. And so we'll continue to invest that, which we know will impact a little bit our operating margin, but it's worth to spend money now. Why? I said the opportunity is there, right? And a lot of customers real demand for the new technology, which I believe a lot of AI technology today even not invented yet. So it really give ACM a good opportunity with our, I call it our innovation power, our different technology, development capability, we can use this AI trend, we catch a lot of new technology and also catch the customer. This horizontal plate is one good example, for example, right? So again, and it's worth to spend more R&D and even get a few percent of the operation margin lower, which is a real long run, and we're working for the investor interest and also the growth ACM market into the next few years.