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ACRES Commercial Realty Corp. (ACR)

Q3 2015 Earnings Call· Wed, Nov 4, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Resource Capital Corp. Third Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jonathan Cohen, President and CEO. You may begin.

Jonathan Cohen

Analyst · Lahde Capital Management. Your line is now open

Thank you. And thank you for joining the Resource Capital Corp. earnings conference call for the third quarter ended September 30, 2015. I am Jonathan Cohen, President and CEO of Resource Capital Corp. Before I begin, I would like to ask Purvi Kamdar, our Director of Investor Relations to read the Safe Harbor Statement.

Purvi Kamdar

Analyst

Thank you, Jonathan. When used in this conference call the words believes, anticipates, expects, and similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Although, the Company believes that these forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, such statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the forward-looking statements. These risks and uncertainties are discussed in the Company’s reports filed with the SEC including its reports on forms 8-K, 10-Q and 10-K, and in particular, Item 1A on the Form 10-K report under the title Risk Factors. Listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date hereof. The Company undertakes no obligation to update any of these forward-looking statements. And with that, I’ll turn it back to Jonathan.

Jonathan Cohen

Analyst · Lahde Capital Management. Your line is now open

Thank you, Purvi. Resource Capital’s core loan portfolio continued to perform well during the quarter ended September 30, 2015. But overall earnings and AFFO were negatively impacted by two non-core assets. First, our earnings in AFFO were dragged down by start-up loads and market turbulence experienced by our investment in Primary Capital, our residential mortgage subsidiary. We believe that these losses, approximately $3 million for the quarter should decline in the fourth quarter as we should be back to breakeven by the first quarter of 2016. Second our earnings and AFFO were impacted by a reversal of foreign exchange currency losses of $2.1 million that we experienced in the sale of piece of CLO equity. Other than these charges, the portfolio performed well. For the third quarter, AFFO was $0.44 per common share and GAAP net income was $0.21 per common share. Without these charges, it would have been -- it would have approximated $0.60. Now some highlights, we bought back almost $25 million of common stock since mid-August or close to 6% of the outstanding shares from the start date of the repurchase program. Our book value was $17.95 per share, slightly lower than it was at June 30th. We originated approximately $148 million of commercial real estate loans and we ended the quarter with over $128 million of liquidity. We believe that we have a huge opportunity in front of us as the stock continues to trade at approximately 75% of book value. Based on the current situation, we anticipate purchasing additional corporate stock, both common and preferred during the remainder of 2015 and purchasing at least $40 million more in 2016. Make no mistake; we think that our shares are deeply discounted. While we have not and will not manage our Company for the stock price, the…

Dave Bloom

Analyst · Lahde Capital Management. Your line is now open

Thank you, Jonathan. Resource Capital Corp.’s committed commercial mortgage and CMBS portfolio has a current balance in excess of $1.98 billion in a diverse and granular pool. RSO’s commercial mortgage portfolios comprised of 91 individual loans with an aggregate committed balance of approximately $1.8 billion and is comprised of 99% self-originated whole loans and 1% mezzanine and B notes. The underlying collateral base securing RSO’s commercial mortgage portfolio continues to be spread across the major asset categories in geographically varied markets with the portfolio breakdown of 47% multifamily, 19% office, 16% hotel, 16% retail and 2% other such as R&D or mixed use deals. During the third quarter of 2015, RSO closed new loans with commitments totaling $148 million. And since the end of the third quarter, we have closed new loans with commitments totaling approximately $117 million and have another $129 million of new loans in the process of closing. As of today, RSO’s aggregate new loan production activity for 2015 stands at approximately $735 million across 36 individual first mortgage loans. Our origination pipeline remains full and continues to grow, while we still remain keenly focused on credit metrics and overall market and sponsor quality and diversity. We current have to over $300 million of new lending opportunities underwritten, quoted and under negotiation with approximately $300 million of additional opportunities in active underwriting and structuring. In August, we successfully closed RSO 2015-CRE4, our fourth CRE CLO in 20 months. Since RSO’s first CRE CLO in late December of 2013, we have term financed over $1.5 billion of collateral through these transaction at a weighted average cost of LIBOR plus 170 and weighted average leverage of 76%. We anticipate RSO’s weighted average annual yield on retained equity in our CLOs to be between 15% and 18%. In September, we…

Jonathan Cohen

Analyst · Lahde Capital Management. Your line is now open

Thank you, Dave. Now I will ask Dave Bryant, our Chief Financial Officer to discuss our financials.

Dave Bryant

Analyst

Thank you, Jonathan. Resource Capital Corp. declared and paid a cash dividend for the third quarter ended September 30, 2015, $0.64 per common share. Our adjusted funds from operations or AFFO for the quarter $14.6 million was $0.44 per common share. Determining AFFO for the third quarter, there were several non-cash adjustments that netted to approximately $5.2 million and cash adjustments of $2.6 million. The non-cash adjustments are primarily attributable to the amortization of deferred debt issuance costs and issuance discounts on our convertible notes. All per share amounts stated take into account the one-for-four reverse stock split, effective on August 31st, as though were in full effect for all periods presented for comparison purposes. During the period, we closed RCC 2015-CRE4, our newish $312.9 million real estate securitization backed by 19 commercial mortgages which issued approximately $224 million of non-recourse floating rate notes at a weighted average cost of LIBOR plus 171 basis points. In past, all of the interest coverage and overcollateralization tests in each of our securitizations that require such tests including two legacy real estate CDOs and one remain back loan CLO. Our three most recent securitizations are subject only to overcollateralization tests, which we have passed. Each of these structured vehicles did very well and produced healthy cash flow to us in Q3. One of our legacy bank loan CLOs liquidated in Q2 from which we received an additional $5.2 million in Q3, which brought the total to $12.8 million return to us in 2015. This CLO capital will combine with other recycled CLO capital from earlier in 2015 brings CLO cash return to $42.6 million, which of course we are deploying into our real estate lending platform and to a lesser extent, our middle market loan platform. We now have capacity of $650 million…

Jonathan Cohen

Analyst · Lahde Capital Management. Your line is now open

Thank you, Dave, both Dave. We remain, as a company, very focused and committed to our mission to achieve attractive prudently generated returns for our shareholders while preserving our capital. Over the past 10 years, we have earned a reputation as a dependable and responsible lender and have been able to pay strong distributions to our shareholders. And with that, I will open the call for any questions if there are any.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Jade Rahmani [ph] of KBW. Your line is now open.

Ryan Tomasello

Analyst · KBW. Your line is now open

Hi, this is actually Ryan Tomasello on for Jade. Thanks for taking my questions. I was wondering if you could provide us with your thoughts on the current state of the commercial real estate cycle including your thoughts on current lending standards. Have you been seeing any indication of lenders compromising on structure and/or term?

Dave Bloom

Analyst · Lahde Capital Management. Your line is now open

Sure, thanks Ryan. This is Dave Bloom. Yes, we certainly see lenders out there who are fighting hard for deals and that’s -- we always fight hard for deals but have remained, as I said, keenly focused on overall metrics as it relates to specific assets, markets in general and most importantly the sponsors and the equity going into the deals. We have not given on structure. And it’s sort of a breakdown of where our yields have been, keeping our structure the same, our spreads have remained relatively constant through our last two CLOs, the February and August deals that we were at 497. And we still continue to pace in a strong way. We are getting our share. We have been in the market for a long time and are as I said cautiously optimistic about fundamentals but there are just certain places we won’t adopt.

Ryan Tomasello

Analyst · KBW. Your line is now open

And then just moving on, you spent a lot of time talking about the Board’s decision to continue the active share repurchases. Can you just provide a bit more color on liquidity position of the Company and how management thinks about capital availability and access to the capital markets overall?

Jonathan Cohen

Analyst · Lahde Capital Management. Your line is now open

I don’t think we have much access to the capital markets given that we would never sell stock here, we’re a buyer of our stock, a preferred stock and our common stock and we have access to the capital markets in terms of securitization where we just finished a very probably -- in our opinion the best execution on the Street in terms of liability management there. But just in terms of liquidity, we have decent liquidity, we don’t have tremendous liquidity. So, we are continuing to buy back our shares. We bought back $25 million already over the last few months. We expect to buy more before the end of the year and continue to additional, as I said, into 2016 with up to at least $40 million more of repurchases. A lot of that liquidity comes from order deals that are now paying off from 2008, ‘07, ‘09, ‘10, ‘12 even and instead of we reinvesting that into growing our portfolios tremendously as we have in the past, we look at it that we’re going to modestly grow our commercial real estate book, post runoff, shrink other books or keep books at the same level of the portfolios that are there and any loose assets that are not achieving their correct ROEs will be sold and used to get a better ROE by buying back our shares. So in combination of all those aspects, we feel that we have a very good liquidity going into 2016 and we should be able to accomplish a lot in 2016 in terms of buyback, in terms of our portfolios and our business and of course, in terms of dividends.

Ryan Tomasello

Analyst · KBW. Your line is now open

And then just moving on, I think a large question on everyone’s mind is the Board thoughts on the current dividend and moving forward into 2016. What are the Board’s thoughts on the current dividend relative to underlying core earnings of the Company which would appear to be below your AFFO metric, given the various add backs for gains and amortization of debt issuance costs that flow through that number, any color would be helpful.

Jonathan Cohen

Analyst · Lahde Capital Management. Your line is now open

I can’t speak for the Board and I won’t. I know they’re constantly thinking of this issue. But the question really that looms I think in their mind is you are going to earn AFFO of over your dividend next year, would you rather be paying a very large dividend or using more of that capital to buy back shares. And I think that that’s the only question that’s how do we return that money to shareholders, I think is only question that is on their mind.

Ryan Tomasello

Analyst · KBW. Your line is now open

And then just lastly, digging into the 255 AFFO, you cited for next year, can you give a bit more detail on what you see as driving that as far as with the pace of originations, primary capital mortgage coming profitable and any other drivers to that 255 number that you see?

Jonathan Cohen

Analyst · Lahde Capital Management. Your line is now open

It’s actually 265, I think that -- and we actually think to be higher than that. Just if you take the current quarter, we were around $0.60 before the market sort of moved what we were doing at primary capital in terms of originations and mark-to-market stuff as well as that one foreign exchange loss, the core portfolio is throwing off around $0.60 now. And obviously as we buy back shares, that number goes up. And because the share cushion not created the book value but created earnings, so you’re layering our shares. And then we do have growth in our commercial real estate book, we put on a lot of loans over the last quarter. We expect to put on a lot of loans in this fourth quarter that we are scheduled to close. We expect that modest I think 10% growth on a $1.7 billion or $1.8 billion portfolio next year. So, you just have a larger portfolio and we’re taking alder equity that’s invested in lower ROE situations and either buying back shares or which of course is immediately accretive or putting it back into commercial real estate at higher levels, all that combined is what drives AFFO to where we expect it to be.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Richard Eckert of Lahde Capital Management. Your line is now open.

Richard Eckert

Analyst · Lahde Capital Management. Your line is now open

Actually the question is for Dave Bloom. According to your press release, you’ve originated a little less than $500 million in commercial real estate loans this year. Are you still expecting to lend somewhere between $800 million and $950 million in total originations for 2016?

Dave Bloom

Analyst · Lahde Capital Management. Your line is now open

Certainly there, we’re close. And based on the pipeline that we have, we are very comfortable with that. As we move forward, we will evaluate. But we are being selective; we are holding our credit standards playing our game. So, I think that to that extent, not chasing the market, continuing to trade on our repeat business, our strong reputation in the market and just keeping the generally prudent lending standards. Yes, I still feel very comfortable that we’ll be there or close.

Jonathan Cohen

Analyst · Lahde Capital Management. Your line is now open

Richard, this is Jonathan, I want to remind that that’s up considerably over the last few years. And of course during the period of low stock price here where we have optionality to allocate our capital, to buyback among other things, we’re looking at liquidity all the time. So, it’s not just about growth, it’s about how can we make the best return here.

Richard Eckert

Analyst · Lahde Capital Management. Your line is now open

I understand that, I am just trying to think from a modeling purpose. Is it realistic to build in the expectation of at least approximately $300 million for the fourth quarter when you’ve averaged just a little over 160 for the first three?

Jonathan Cohen

Analyst · Lahde Capital Management. Your line is now open

Well, my experience has been the fourth quarter is seasonally the largest contributor to asset growth, that’s what everyone wants to close on. I think you’ll see a nice fourth quarter here.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Lee Cooper of Omega Advisors. Your line is now open.

Lee Cooper

Analyst · Omega Advisors. Your line is now open

Thank you. It’s really not a question, more just an observation. I heard you comment Jonathan about dividend. I just give you a word of advice, people own the stock because of the dividend; the stock has been an enormous disappointment since the IPO. The direction of the dividend has been kind of going consistently down. So, I would not be an aggressive buyer of the stock which you are, if you thought that the dividend was not secure due to buy at a lower price or the only argument I would do for the buyback in the face of the dividend possibilities is that we thought we would liquidate the Company and return the book value to the shareholders. So I want to make that clear. My view is if you’re contemplating a dividend reduction, I’ll be very cautious in buying back stock or should buy it cheaper. If you thought there was a chance that the Board of Directors would vote to return the minor shareholders and liquidate the Company and buying back stock at discounted book value will make a lot of sense. People own this because of the income flow.

Jonathan Cohen

Analyst · Omega Advisors. Your line is now open

Thank you, Lee.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We have a follow-up question from Jade Rahmani of KBW. Your line is now open.

Jonathan Cohen

Analyst · KBW. Your line is now open

Hey, Ryan.

Ryan Tomasello

Analyst · KBW. Your line is now open

Thanks guys for taking my follow-up. A quick technical question, as far as modeling purposes, can you give any color on how much more of the debt extinguishment gains you might expect to be flowing through AFFO in the near-term?

Dave Bloom

Analyst · KBW. Your line is now open

It’s really depending on how quickly loans pay-off and those deals on line, Ryan, but we do have a decent amount of that modeled in for next year. And I think that when we give a little more color, we typically -- Jon gave some minimal guidance in terms of GAAP net income and AFFO; he typically gave little more detail around that towards the end of the year. I think we can provide that…

Jonathan Cohen

Analyst · KBW. Your line is now open

We can only provide that at the end of December, early January which we will do. But I would just add that if my numbering had lot of gains at AFFO from extinguishment of debt, it probably -- the AFFO number would have been north of $3, much north of $3. So, we don’t really include very much of that in the guidance that I am giving you.

Operator

Operator

And I am showing no further questions in the queue. I’ll now like to turn the call back to Jonathan Cohen for any further remarks.

Jonathan Cohen

Analyst · Lahde Capital Management. Your line is now open

I really don’t have any other remarks. But thank you for joining the call. And we appreciate your ongoing support during this rough period for Resource Capital. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today’s conference. This concludes today’s program. You may all disconnect. Everyone, have a good day.