Jose Carmona
Analyst · J.P. Morgan.
On brand profitability, what we expect this year is that the revenues coming out of ZYNLONTA in the US will be able to pay for all the expenses directly related to commercializing ZYNLONTA, which means all the sales force, marketing team, medical science liaison, and all discretionary spending, which would include A&P, cost of goods, IIT, and other related expenses. So, basically, from a capital allocation perspective, commercializing ZYNLONTA is not a usage of fund. It's more like a source of funds to start funding the pipeline. For modeling purposes, gross to net, if you've heard our messages in 2023, from the first half to the second half of the year, our gross to net increased a high single digit percentage point. We expect that 2024 will have a similar gross-to-net ratio that we had in the second half of 2023. So, we don't expect further increases, but as you model it in the first half of 2024, we'll be fighting over a higher gross to net than what we saw in the first half of 2023, like that same percentage points. So, high single digit increase in the first half of 2024 compared to prior year, but it will be more even in the second half of 2024 compared to the second half 2023. From an expenses perspective, we will continue to drive productivity measures. We are not providing exact guidance on all OpEx levels, but we will keep driving productivity across the board. Importantly, this year, the highest investment level that we have is in LOTIS-5, [indiscernible] trial for ZYNLONTA, which we expect full enrollment this year. So as the full enrollment happens and then the trial winds down into 2025, we expect a decrease of R&D expenses due to LOTIS-5. All that depends obviously on the success of the other trials, but that's the biggest driver of R&D expenses this year, which will decrease as we launch 2025.