Good afternoon, and welcome to the ADMA Biologics Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Financial Results and Corporate Update Conference Call on Thursday, March 23, 2023. [Operator Instructions]. Please be advised that this call is being recorded at the company's request and will be available on the company's website approximately two hours following the end of the call. At this time, I would like to introduce Skyler Bloom, Senior Director, Business Development and Corporate Strategy at ADMA Biologics. Please go ahead.

Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining us this afternoon to discuss ADMA Biologics' financial results for the fourth quarter and full year 2022 and recent corporate updates. I'm joined today by Adam Grossman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Brian Lenz, Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and General Manager of ADMA BioCenters. During today's call, Adam will provide some introductory comments and provide an update on corporate progress, and then Brian will provide an overview of the company's fourth quarter 2022 financial results. Finally, Adam will then provide some brief summary remarks before opening the call up for your questions. Earlier today, we issued a press release detailing the fourth quarter and full year 2022 financial results and summarizing certain achievements in recent corporate updates. The release is available on our website at www.admabiologics.com. Before we begin our formal comments, I'll remind you that we will be making forward-looking assertions during today's call that represent the company's intentions, expectations or beliefs concerning future events, which constitute forward-looking statements for the purposes of the safe harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All forward-looking statements are subject to factors, risks and uncertainties such as those detailed in today's press release announcing this call and in our filings with the SEC, which may cause actual results to differ materially from the results expressed or implied by such statements. In addition, any forward-looking statements represent our views only as of the date of this call and should not be relied upon as representing our views as of any subsequent date. We specifically disclaim any obligation to update any such statements, except as required by the federal securities laws. We refer you to the disclosures notice section in our earnings release we issued today in the Risk Factors section of our 2022 annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2022, for a discussion of important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements. And with that, I would like to now turn the call over to Adam Grossman. Adam?

Thank you, Skyler. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's call. We hope you all remain healthy and safe. During 2022, ADMA strengthened its position as the fastest-growing provider of immunoglobulin in the U.S. market, growing full year total revenues by 90%. Further, the persistence of encouraging business trends since the start of 2023 gives us confidence in our ability to exceed $210 million in full year 2023 total revenues as well as achieve first-time EBITDA profitability no later than the second half of 2023. Our organization's continued commercial success, we believe, is, in large part, attributable to ADMA's exclusive focus on targeting the immune-deficient patient segment, which is the fastest-growing cohort in the U.S. immunoglobulin market. We believe our innovative business model, unique immune globulin portfolio offerings and targeted medical education efforts in this PI subsector position us well for continued future success. We anticipate 2023 to be an inflection point for ADMA. Our organization aims to sustain top-tier revenue growth, achieve first-time EBITDA profitability and shortly thereafter, solidify the pathway to an ultimate margin profile at the upper bound of ADMA's plasma manufacturer peer group. Principally driving our confident outlook is due to ASCENIV, its uniqueness amongst immunoglobulin offerings and the real-world impact and improvements the drug is having on outcomes for problematic immune-deficient patients. Now well into 2023, we can confirm elevated ASCENIV utilization trends are continuing, and we believe that forward-looking demand indicators support product upside over the near term and longer term. The attribution of ASCENIV's growth continues to strengthen year-to-date as well. We are seeing encouraging signs of patient and prescriber persistence among those now entering their third year on therapy, which has been further compounded by a record expansion of new accounts as well as reorder velocity among existing…

Thank you, Adam. We issued a press release earlier today outlining our fourth quarter and full year 2022 financial results, and I'll now discuss some of the key highlights. As Adam mentioned earlier, total revenues for the quarter ended December 31, 2022, were approximately $50 million as compared to $26.4 million during the fourth quarter of 2021. And this represents an increase of $23.6 million or approximately 90%. The revenue growth for the fourth quarter of 2022 compared to the fourth quarter of 2021 was favorably impacted by the continued commercial ramp-up of the company's IVIG product portfolio and the expanding customer base for BIVIGAM and ASCENIV. Our gross profit for the fourth quarter of 2022 was $14.2 million compared to gross profit of $3.5 million for the fourth quarter of 2021. Gross profit growth was driven by a favorable contribution from ASCENIV. Partially offsetting the favorably evolving product mix, ADMA sold a material amount of the remaining 2,200-liter scale, lower-margin BIVIGAM product during the fourth quarter of 2022. Excluding the impact of selling this lower-margin legacy BIVIGAM product, ADMA's estimated fourth quarter 2022 corporate gross margins would have been approximately 200 to 300 basis points higher compared to reported results. At the midpoint, this adjustment translates to an estimated operating loss for the quarter of $4.7 million, which is approximately 64% improved compared to the prior year's fourth quarter when accounting for transient gross margin dynamics, amounting to approximately $1.3 million. Due to the record product demand, ADMA currently expects to monetize a substantial portion of the remaining lower-margin inventory in the first quarter of 2023, incrementally earlier than previous expectations of midyear 2023. Our consolidated net loss for the quarter ended December 31, 2022, was $12.2 million or a $0.06 loss per basic and diluted share compared to…

Thank you, Brian. As in previous years, we've taken a conservative approach to constructing our financial guidance, considering various macroeconomic uncertainties. However, we are optimistic that we will potentially exceed our top and bottom line guidance ranges if current demand trends and margin dynamics continue. Our level of conviction is based on several factors. First, there is a 7- to 12-month manufacturing lead time for our products, which means that we can anticipate the impact of our past production efforts on our future financial performance with a unique level of visibility. This is unique to our industry because of these immune globulin-specific manufacturing lead times. Additionally, elevated product demand trends have not only persisted, but strengthened so far this year, which further bolsters our confidence in our forward-looking financials. Given these factors, we comprehensively reiterate all our previously stated objectives, including exceeding $210 million in total 2023 revenues and generating positive EBITDA no later than the second half of 2023. Regarding new growth initiatives, we want to emphasize that we do not probability adjust financial opportunities before receiving regulatory approval. Therefore, we will only include the potential financial contribution from these growth opportunities in formal guidance when we receive any such regulatory approvals. We believe our investments in the supply chain and commercial infrastructure in recent years have created a solid foundation for maintaining best-in-class revenue growth and potentially achieving an ultimate margin profile at the upper bound among our plasma product manufacturing peers. As a result, we believe we are well positioned for continued success in the future. In closing, I'd like to thank you, our stockholders, for your continued support, as your investment in ADMA helps to advance our mission to save lives and make high-quality, safe and efficacious products that help our friends, family and neighbors. With that, we'll now open up the call for your questions. Thank you. Operator?

[Operator Instructions]. And our first question is Anthony Petrone from Mizuho.

Congratulations on a strong end to 2022 and, obviously, the progress going forward here. I think, Adam, maybe I want to start just with guidance for 2023. The $210 million relative to $154 million in 2022, it's 36% year-over-year growth. And so it still is calling for a quarterly sort of step-up, I think, sequentially throughout the year. So maybe how should we be thinking about the quarterly complexion for 2023 and then the target for EBITDA positive by second half? Maybe just a little bit on sort of the first half, how that looks for EBITDA or just the progress to EBITDA positive. And then when we think about EBITDA positive in the second half, I mean are there sort of ranges we should be thinking about? And I'll have a couple of follow-ups.

Sure. Thanks for the question and for the continued support. Yes, this is always a unique time for folks like me because we're sitting here with about a week out from closing the first quarter and we're talking about how well we did last year, which I don't want to minimize. But look, we're very, very bullish on the persistence of top and bottom line trends. If you listen to the prepared remarks, and I'm sure you'll read the transcript later, we have incrementally tweaked the verbiage around EBITDA and profitability guidance and also revenue guidance. We really do take this conservative approach to setting targets. And look, we set targets that we can meet and feel comfortable about meeting in the face of all the macroeconomic challenges and other headwinds that we may face. We know that the market doesn't care about that. They want us to meet the guidance that we've set. So we are conservative, but hopefully, you read in the press release and you heard it in the prepared remarks that we believe that we've got an opportunity to achieve EBITDA sooner than the back half. And I think that if the demand trends and if the utilization that we've seen through the first quarter continues, I mean it will be another stellar year. I'm very proud of the progress that our company is making. And it's certainly based on the tremendous efforts across the organization. And from our production staff, our plasma collection staff, testing, facilities, the whole nine yards, I mean we are doing everything we can the right way. We make good products that are efficacious and help people. And we're really happy with the real-world evidence that's being disseminated out there. And quite frankly, we've seen some very, very strong utilization numbers so far this year. And I don't want to give away too much, Anthony, because the quarter is not done yet, but we do feel very, very strongly about our ability to potentially hit some of our milestones financially earlier than what we previously messaged. So hang in there, grab your popcorn, we're going to keep hitting it out of the park. And as long as the world continues to operate the way it is today, we feel very confident that we should meet or exceed all of our previously stated targets.

That's very helpful. Maybe just when we think about the $210 million and just the progress here, the prepared remarks, press release, you talk about just continued uptake of both ASCENIV and BIVIGAM but that you're adding new prescribers and patients, the reutilization rate for patients is sticky. So when you think about the $210 million, how much of that is just existing prescribers? And have you baked in incremental prescribers as well into that $210 million?

The prescriber universe for compromised patients in IG is certainly not infinite. There is a finite number of prescribers, and we've got a large amount of them who are believers in our products, who are believers in ASCENIV and who really understand now that this is really our third year of commercialization. I mean I think the message is out there. I think that the medical education work that we've done and our marketing activities have really carved out a nice niche for ASCENIV. And I think BIVIGAM, and some of the real-world evidence on great tolerability and efficacy, I think that this is really driving more awareness and increased utilization of the products. You asked something around reutilization of ASCENIV, and we're always a little bit cautious, if I can say that, flipping the calendar here. You never know what payers are going to do. You never know what occurs with Medicare and reimbursement. There's always some level of uncertainty. So we have to hedge a little bit. But with where we sit today, knowing what I know about the first quarter, I mean I'm really happy with the work that our med affairs and our market access teams, all the work that they've been able to do, I mean we are seeing continued utilization. And I know that this is something that our shareholders have been asking me about for years. They see this durable growth, "Well, is it going to continue into next year?" And I'd say, "I think it will. Let's flip the calendar and let's see." And it appears that, that utilization is continuing. It appears that patients are staying on therapy. The docs are happy with the product. The patients who are thriving on the product certainly are advocating for themselves. And we built a night commercial and compliance infrastructure here to ensure that we have the data available to ensure the continued access of our products to patients who need it. So we feel real good about this. The $210 million includes, Anthony, existing prescribers. It includes new prescribers. We've got a very bullish commercial force right now, and they really feel like they're making a difference. Whether I should talk about this or not, we had our national business meeting. We had a couple of patients who received ASCENIV come in and talk to our commercial force about what their real-world life experience was prior to being on ASCENIV. And I think that, that really has reinvigorated and motivated our team to get out there and continuing to make a difference in patient lives. So the balls continue to bounce in our favor, and we're really happy, and we're going to keep making a good quality product and providing it out there and ensure the continuity of care. So we expect demand trends to continue, we expect utilization to increase and we feel very confident about exceeding that $210 million target that we've set.

That's great. And the last one for me, I'll hop back in and let others jump in here. Just on ASCENIV production scale going to 4,400 liter, what is the timing of that? And then if you can, can you just give us the total population of pediatric PI patients? Assuming you secure that label, how many pediatric primary immune patients are that are out there in the United States? Again, congratulations.

No, thank you, Anthony. So the ASCENIV 4,400, this is one of those things that I'm sure some of my team here is laughing about it. It's one of those things I swore I'd never do, but the demand has been fantastic. And this is really a tremendous milestone for us. I mean we've got great demand out there for ASCENIV. Making it at the 4,400-liter scale will give us more product faster. And what it does is it opens up production slots. So whether we're making a 2,200-liter batch or a 4,400-liter batch, it uses the same production slot, same staff, same time. So this will allow us to make either more ASCENIV. It will allow us to make more BIVIGAM. It will allow us to utilize the plant's total capacity faster. I didn't look at the production schedule today, but I'll say that we're probably going to start sometime in the next calendar quarter, I think. We're going to start producing ASCENIV at the larger scale. So we should see product rolling off the line 7 to 10 months after that. We feel real good about this. I mean this is just us growing up as an organization. So it's growing up as a manufacturing organization. I mean we've made hundreds of batches now at the 4,400 liter scale for BIVIGAM. This is what our production team likes to do. This is what our supply chain folks and our manufacturing team likes to do, and they're doing it well. So I'm very, very proud of the team for doing this. Appreciate the agency, FDA's review of our submission. And I think that this is just the sign of our company growing up as a more mature manufacturing organization. Regarding pediatric percentage of PI patients, I don't have that information right in front of me. So I reserve the right to follow up, Anthony, and you can publish it in a note. Look, we think it's a very nice thing to have in our label. It's a federal requirement to run and fulfill the pediatric study requirements. So we hope that shareholders see that we don't shirk our responsibility. We take them seriously. We've completed the study for BIVIGAM. The pediatric study for ASCENIV is currently enrolling. Do I think that it helps add more patients to drug therapy? Maybe. I think that patients who need IVIG -- are there pediatric patients on our products? I would say, I believe that there are, yes. I think that it just helps. I think that it puts us at parity with a number of our competitor products. And we feel very, very good about the potential to expand the label for BIVIGAM as that study has been fully completed and we've submitted our regulatory packet to the agency.

[Operator Instructions]. And our next question comes from Kristen Kluska from Cantor. And our next question comes from Elliot Wilbur from Raymond James.

Can you hear me all right?

Elliot, we hear you loud and clear.

Okay. Okay. A little bit of a challenge today getting into queue. Maybe I could start with a couple of questions for Brian, and just specifically thinking about expectations of positive EBITDA no later than the second half. I just wanted to confirm that the EBITDA metric that you're referencing is, in fact, an adjusted EBITDA number and would exclude stock comp expense. And maybe within that, if you could just give us a rough ballpark number of what you're thinking about in terms of depreciation expense. I think it was like $1.7 million last quarter. I don't know if that's just a good run rate to think about over the course of 2023 or not, but some color there, please.

Sure. Thanks for the question, Elliot. Yes, I would say if you were to look at our fourth quarter and even third quarter depreciation, amortization as part of our EBITDA calculation, which would be an adjusted EBITDA, positive EBITDA, no later than the second half of 2023, that would exclude stock-based comp, depreciation, amortization. While we haven't given formal guidance on ranges and dollars, we think it's a tremendous forward-looking accomplishment in a very short period of time. And then to follow shortly there after that, we feel very confident about our positive cash flow and profitability on or before the first quarter of 2024.

Okay. And if I may, an accounting question for you. Can you just talk about the plasma center collection costs on the P&L currently and how those would change or progress, I guess, as more collection volume is utilized for your own production? I seem to recall that some of that would get rolled into inventory and not be running through the P&L, but I just wanted to verify that and how we should be thinking about that with respect to your margin targets.

Sure. Again, thanks for the question, Elliot, regarding the plasma centers and expenses, especially from an accounting standpoint. So as our centers ramp up, there are initial marketing operational expenditures, administrative expenditures that are charged to the P&L upfront as an expense. Now as those centers start collecting and they receive FDA approval, the plasma itself that's collected is then allocated or earmarked charged to the balance sheet. So as all 10 centers are essentially up and running and collecting plasma now, as everyone knows, we have 8 FDA-approved centers. We expect to have the remaining 2 approved by the end of this year. Just this time last year, we had 6 operating centers and only 3 approved. At the end of 2022, we had 9 operating centers and 7 approved, and we just opened up our tenth center this quarter. So I would expect operating expenditures for the plasma centers to decrease because, as those centers now are all online, we're going to be able to continue to capitalize the plasma that we're collecting into inventory. A lot of those start-up costs have already been borne or incurred into those centers.

Okay. And not to delve too deep into the minutia, but we do get the question a lot as people are looking at the company's margin targets versus some of the peer group. But if I think about the plasma center expenses being roughly $5 million a quarter, so that will not entirely go away. There'll still be some level of expenditure. But some substantial portion of that will just get rolled into inventory, does that make sense?

That's correct. That's correct, Elliot. So I wouldn't take the $5 million as a forecaster from the standpoint of throwing out quarter over quarter over quarter to be $20 million by the end of the year. As I mentioned, you could consider it me costs. Those costs have already been expensed in the fourth quarter. So when you're thinking about the first quarter of 2023, because now all 10 centers are operating in the first quarter of '23, a lot of those expenditures have already been borne in the fourth quarter of '22. And those expenditures in the first quarter of '23 will be capitalized to inventory as our plasma collection costs directly into raw material inventories for production of, obviously, BIVIGAM, ASCENIV and Nabi. Is it going to step down materially? I mean we haven't given singular guidance on individual operating expenditures. But I would say that the $5 million would step down quarter-over-quarter in a meaningful enough way that from a contribution standpoint, inventory will step up and stay within the range of $150 million to $175 million, as we said in the past. And then as we're thinking about how does that impact the overall profitability of the company, well, that's just going to help accelerate the profitability because the centers are all online, operating efficiently, and the majority of the costs will be capitalized to inventory. There'll still be administrative operating expenditures for the centers, don't get me wrong, it's not going to go to zero. But there are overhead expenditures and just continuing operational expenditures. But when you think about it, the majority of those expenses will be capitalized to inventory.

Okay. A couple of questions for Adam as well. Adam, can you just talk a little bit about what you're seeing on the demand side in terms of visibility on pull-through, whether you think, based on current production volumes, you're in a position to be competing for new customers? Or do you think the majority of finished product is going to go to existing customers? And then if you could share any anecdotes that you may be hearing in terms of reimbursement and persistence of therapy on ASCENIV, whether or not patients that start on ASCENIV are able to continue on it. Or are we seeing maybe an increase in cycling back to standard IVIG products?

I would make a note, Elliot, I'll try to touch them all. If I miss something, just ask. But no, thanks for the question. Not to sound like a broken record, but demand is strong. As I know you know, but for those who may not, who are listening, typically, if you're a primary immune-deficient patient, you have a genetic defect that requires you to get IG infusions every 3 to 4 weeks for the rest of your life. If you have secondary immune deficiency, depending upon your condition, if it's an organ transplant, you're immune compromised for your life, so you typically may stay on IG for longer periods. If you had a bone marrow transplant or maybe you're getting some type of short-term monoclonal therapy that renders you to be immune compromised, you may be on IG for a shorter period of time. But what we're seeing is we're seeing continued use by our existing customers. Obviously, there's growth. We've been ramping up our production throughput over the last 1 year, 1.5 years. And as we said last year, and as I said in the prepared remarks, we've got unique visibility because the product that we're selling today, we made last year in the second quarter. So we certainly have the inventory there. I mean we ended the year $160-ish million of inventory. And we feel that, that certainly will support $210 million or more in top line revenue. But it's durable, Elliot. And we're seeing continued utilization by existing patients and prescribers, and we are seeing new prescribers being added every month, every quarter. We're also self-regulating. I mean we kind of live in this world that's a little different than some of the larger players in the immunoglobulin space. Again, we're really 99% outpatient. We work…

Got it. One more question, if I may, and hopefully, I didn't miss this in your prepared commentary. But can you just talk a little bit about what you're seeing in the collection center level in terms of the capacity utilization of the various centers, donor and foot traffic trends? There's been some media about very heavy volumes at the border, at the U.S. Mexican border. I know that doesn't directly impact your business, but just wondering if there's any corollary there. And then more specifically, given the strong performance of ASCENIV, I know that you still have the ability to source high RSV titer plasma from your prior supplier, but maybe just talk a little bit about what you're seeing in terms of your internal sourcing of high RSV titer plasma at your captive collection centers?

So Elliot, I'll take the plasma center question. Yes, visibility has never been higher on our pathway to supply self-sufficiency at our centers. We received, I would say, accelerated approvals last year. All 10 centers have been opened and are operating and collecting. So we're clearly on track to receive FDA licensure for call it the remaining 2 by the end of this year. All the centers are operating very well. Foot traffic certainly above where we were pre-pandemic and collections are certainly meaningfully exceeding our pre-pandemic levels. As it relates to collections for BIVIGAM, ASCENIV and even Nabi, for that matter, yes, we have some other third-party contracts, but our own source plasma from our own 10 centers will more than meet the demands for the revenue forecast that we've set over the next couple of years. But our goal is to collect as much plasma as we possibly can. Plasma is going one way, and we feel very confident in our collection abilities and getting these centers open and approved.

And I think we messaged in one of the last quarter call or maybe it was during the financing, we've invested into our own laboratories here, and we've identified ways to potentially screen and identify the hyperimmune RSV plasma donor faster. And as we continue throughout 2023, we think that we'll be able to shift to more of this testing in-house. And I think that, that will help us to ensure that we have as much plasma as we need to make ASCENIV and as much normal sources we can get. I think also something that our team always works on here is third-party supply contracts where we're even working with some new collectors now potentially bolstering and augmenting our internal supply and our existing third-party contracts with some new ones. These are not huge quantities of plasma, but every batch is 4,400 liters. And if we can get more plasma, we can produce more, we've got more production slots available switching ASCENIV to the 4,400-liter scale, and it's all falling into place. So I'd like the inflationary headwinds to subside just because it's crazy out there. But it certainly has not been slow for our collection centers. So we're really, really happy with the job they're doing. And from what I can see, we've got good inventories of material, Elliot. So I don't foresee any issue with us meeting or exceeding even the out-year revenue and financial targets that we've set for the business.

[Operator Instructions]. And our next question comes from Kristen Kluska from Cantor.

Congrats on a great 2022 and continued success, really, especially when you consider coming back from some of the hardest times of the pandemic and the macro environment we're in. So I wanted to ask, given your initiatives to unlock new growth opportunities, Adam, you started to comment about ways you're looking to measure and source more plasma from those with sufficient levels of titers to RSV. So I know there's just a small percent of people who have these levels. But naturally, if your footprint is increasing across your centers, I would imagine that you're collecting more of this plasma. So how could this initiative and some of these changes also help to consider some of your revenue goals and even potentially exceeding them?

Sure. Thanks for the continued support, and thanks for the good question, Kristen. I hope you guys are well. I think what we say in our public filings is roughly 10% of people have the titers that we're looking for. What's nice about collecting the majority of this plasma yourself -- and look, we still work with Grifols. That supply contract is in good standing through mid-2027. We've got some other smaller collectors who we work with on high-titer to RSV plasma as well. But what I can say is I can't force them to call this donor back and get that donor in a chair. I can force Brian and our plasma collection centers to spend in some time, spend some effort, get the donors who we know have high levels of neutralizing antibodies to RSV and get them to come in. And we can target incentives. We can roll out the red carpet, whatever we need to do, but we have much more control over those donors that are coming into our own centers. So while 10% of people or less have the antibodies that we're looking for, that doesn't mean that only 10% of the plasma that we collect will be high-titer to RSV because we can manage which donors are coming into our centers. So it's a science, it's an art, however you want to view it, but these are special people. And we really take it very, very seriously, and we have targeted programs to bring these folks in. So we really think that having this control, and this was what we set out to do in 2020 when we embarked on the supply chain robustness, is take over the control. And I don't want to say that we can choose which bodies are in…

And now that you have a lot more experience with ASCENIV, and I know that you opined in the press release that publications are potentially in the works, looking back at the clinical trial experience, I think you had about 60 patients there. So I'm wondering, now that you have this kind of real-world experience, if the effects that you're familiar with at least are in line with what's on the label, if you're seeing even better benefits if patients are on the treatment longer? Really, like anything that you can help us understand outside of just the label experience.

I am hearing my compliance team whispering in my ear, Kristen. I think there have been some publications out there. There's certainly some data that have been published by certain KOLs in the community. I think we've had a couple of publications as well at the medical conferences, medical meetings. And I could hypothesize in private with you, but to just state, I just don't have robust data for it right now. I don't think would be appropriate. But what I can say is that I'm a big believer that clinicians prescribe products if they work. Just because a label says something, sure, they may try it, but they're not going to keep a patient on therapy if it's not doing what it's intended to do or better. I think ASCENIV, especially at its price point, I mean, I think that there are high expectations for the drug. And I think the best way to answer your question is that we are seeing durable, persistent reordering patterns. We're seeing durable utilization. We're seeing increased pull-through, plain and simple. And I think that, that comes from a product that is delivering results that are above and beyond what maybe were even measured in a clinical trial. Our data for ASCENIV -- and again, it was not a head-to-head study against any other IG product -- but our data for ASCENIV showed a very low rate of antibiotic use, a very low rate of days missed at work and school, low rate of hospitalizations. Anecdotally, and I think this is probably in the publication, patient diaries, again, these are, again, anecdotal supplemental data, people felt good on the product. They felt better. And if you look at our asceniv.com website and if you poke around there, this is not a drug for everybody. This is for the patients that have chronic and persistent infections. These are patients who are failing or not thriving standard IG therapy. They need a change. We heard that from the ASCENIV patient speakers at our national business meeting. And I really just feel that there's something unique about the antibody profile of the product. I think that RSV, again, is that marker for these high responder donors. And there is some data published there. But I really feel that the fact that the product is continuing to grow. I think that, that answers your question without me saying something that's going to get me yelled at by somebody. So that's the best answer I can give you, and I hope that that's okay. And I just think, look, there's more data coming out. There's more data that's published all the time. And I think as we continue to make progress with the product utilization and penetration, I'm excited for what lies ahead for the future, for the PI population and for our company.

Great. Looking forward to seeing what you have in store for us this year.

Stay tuned, Kristen. We will hopefully not disappoint.

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question-and-answer portion of the call. I'd like to turn it back over to Adam for additional closing remarks.

Thank you, everybody. I just want to thank you all for your interest in ADMA Biologics. We appreciate your continued support. Donate plasma, you've got plasma centers near you. And we hope to continue to keep the shareholders happy, keep the patients happy. And again, thank you to my staff, the whole team, we can't do it without you. So all of our advisers and everybody, keep fighting the good fight and rock on. Take care, everybody.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the conference call for today. We appreciate your participation, and you may now disconnect.