No, absolutely. And think of -- our customers kind of broken in two, as we had to mention the branded consumer products companies and retailers. You obviously are seeing the branded consumer products side, a strong move back into innovation, a lot of new items coming to market. The innovation engines are back on with many of our clients, which is great to see. And as I mentioned, we actually just had a survey with our manufacturers and CPG companies. And the kind of top tool that they're using to drive performance at retail right now is off-shelf merchandising and positioning, which serves well our retail merchandising segment. We're hearing a lot of optimism about just, I think, the year from our CPG partners. From the retail side, you're obviously seeing, in many cases, units down overall, and you are seeing private label outpacing the growth of branded products, but both so from a dollar standpoint, growing well. Well, what you hear a lot in the media obviously right now about looming recession or concern over the debt ceiling, I think, so far, what we're hearing is cautious optimism as it relates to the consumer. Obviously, the labor markets being constrained can be challenging for us, but the more funds in the consumer pockets is going to continue to drive, I think, continued visits and spending in-stores. So pretty -- I'd say cautiously optimistic is the feedback. I've been in 40 client meetings over the last few months in person, actually 3 just in the last 6 days. And we've had great discussions around where they see the business going. And as I said, I think there's cautious optimism for this year, and you've obviously been tracking some of the reports that have come out for the first quarter for many companies.