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American Eagle Outfitters, Inc. (AEO)

Q2 2022 Earnings Call· Wed, Sep 7, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the American Eagle Outfitters Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn this conference over to your host, Ms. Judy Meehan. Thank you, ma'am. You may begin, at this time, your presentation.

Judy Meehan

Analyst

Good afternoon, everyone. Joining me today for our prepared remarks are Jay Schottenstein, Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Jen Foyle, President, Executive Creative Director for AE and Aerie; Michael Rempell, Chief Operating Officer; and Mike Mathias, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin today's call, I need to remind you that we will make certain forward-looking statements. These statements are based upon information that represents the company's current expectations or beliefs. The results actually realized may differ materially based on risk factors included in our SEC filings. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by law. Also please note that during this call and in the accompanying press release, certain financial metrics are presented on both a GAAP and non-GAAP adjusted basis. Reconciliations of adjusted results to the GAAP results are available in the tables attached to the earnings release, which is posted on our corporate website at www.aeo-inc.com in the Investor Relations section. Here, you can also find the second quarter investor presentation. And now, I will turn the call over to Jay.

Jay Schottenstein

Analyst

Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us today. This is clearly an unprecedented time in retail. We are cycling extraordinary and uneven demand patterns brought on by stimulus and COVID over the last few years, and we are navigating through a highly volatile macro environment. Our second quarter results reflected these challenges as revenue came in below our plan and markdowns weighted on profit margins. On the first quarter call, we highlighted the actions we were taking in response to changing demand and to reposition our business for an improved second half. This included a firm goal to rightsize our inventory and reset our expense base to be more in line with demand in the second quarter. Significant progress was made across both these initiatives. On the inventory side, we've cleared all excess spring and summer goods and entered the third quarter with better inventory levels and fresh back-to-school and fall merchandise. We also actioned expense reductions across the organization. As Mike will review, we are taking further steps to drive improved profitability and cash generation. This includes a hiring freeze, further reductions in noncritical expenses and lower capital spending. We have also paused our quarterly cash dividend. We have returned $265 million in cash to shareholders through a combination of dividends and share repurchases, marking our highest level of returns since 2015. While we will take the rest of this year to strengthen our cash position, we are committed to continuing to return cash to shareholders as a fundamental principle. On a separate note, we made strategic changes to our leadership structure to enhance focus on consumer experience and our growth initiatives, with combined store and digital operations, to enable a more holistic and cohesive view of the customer. The new structure will create efficiencies and strengthen the brand…

Jennifer Foyle

Analyst

Thanks, Jay, and good afternoon, everyone. This was clearly a challenging quarter. As we managed through the current environment, we remained focused on adjusting our assortments and rightsizing inventory. I'm pleased to note that we entered the fall season with fresh and current assortments across brands. We have significantly pulled back on fall receipts and continued to adjust forward inventory to be more in line with shopping trends. Clearly, lapping enormous demand from last year has also been a hurdle. Yet I see no letup in the consumer affinity and love for casual, comfy and active wear. It's a lifestyle, not a trend, and it's in demand. As we see comparisons to last year's season, I'm confident momentum will come back to us. And in fact, looking forward, there are great new trends emerging around silhouette, color and fabrication that will create even more excitement around the lifestyle. Now let me provide some second quarter details by brand. Aerie revenue increased 11% compared to last year driven by new store openings. Comparable sales were down 6%, following a 25% comp increase last year. Swimwear remains soft. While overall demand was below our plan, the majority of categories posted increases to last year, undies, leggings, apparel and accessories, all posting positive growth. Additionally, OFFLINE continues to show incredible potential and demonstrate strong customer acceptance. I'm also pleased to see that Aerie's multiyear growth trajectory remains intact. Since second quarter of 2019, revenues have nearly doubled, growing almost $170 million. Our customer file has expanded by almost 2 million shoppers. We continue to focus on delivering innovation and newness to our customers. SMOOTHEZ is our new collection of favorite first layers that we call anti-shapewear. The launch has been extremely successful, driving incremental traffic to the brand and nearly 6 billion impressions…

Michael Rempell

Analyst

Thanks, Jen, and good afternoon, everyone. As we navigate a challenging retail environment, we are leaning into the strength of our operations. We've invested in our supply chain, which is yielding greater speed, efficiency and cost benefit. We have amazing brands, and our selling channels are very strong. We operate an industry-leading store fleet and a truly best-in-class digital capability. In the second quarter, channel performance reflected macro pressures across retail. In stores, lower traffic and lower spend drove a 9% comp decline. Digital sales were down 6%. While down to last year, our digital business had seen significant growth over the past 3 years, with revenue up 60% to second quarter 2019. Digital penetration has also grown to 33% from 24%. Our mobile app had another strong quarter and is now our largest source of revenue in the direct channel. This is a key positive as app customers are our most engaged and valuable omnichannel customers. We are continuing to invest in the latest new technologies to enhance the customer shopping experience. In the second quarter, we introduced a new mobile point-of-sale system across our North America store base, giving our customers the flexibility to check out or return items through our store associate anywhere in the store. We expect this to improve transaction speed and minimize wait time, especially as we head into our peak fall and holiday selling seasons. As Jay mentioned, the organizational changes we have made will allow us to operate with a more integrated and channel-agnostic customer strategy, and it's going to create efficiencies and cost savings. We are continuing to rationalize the AE store base and close 7 more stores across the North America fleet in the quarter, bringing our regional store count to 858 stores. This is down from 931 at the…

Mike Mathias

Analyst

Thanks, Michael. Good afternoon, everyone. As Jay mentioned, we are taking numerous steps to improve profitability and cash flow, which I'll discuss throughout my remarks today. Let me start with a review of the quarter. Consolidated revenue for the second quarter was $1.2 billion. This was flat to last year, including 2 points of growth from our supply chain acquisitions. Brand revenue declined 2%, following record revenue supported by an exceptionally healthy consumer environment last year. Consistent with what others have said, we saw a slowdown in demand this summer. For the quarter, Aerie revenue was up 11% and American Eagle declined 8%. Compared to pre-pandemic 2019, total revenue increased 15% and brand revenue was up 12% or $130 million. Gross profit dollars declined 26% compared to last year. The gross margin rate of 30.9% contracted 1,120 basis points. Higher markdowns drove 750 basis points of the decline. I want to emphasize that as we cleared through inventory in the second quarter, our priority was to maintain the pricing integrity and brand equity built over the past few years. Our AUR in the second quarter was the second highest achieved in the history of the company, down only 4% to last year. We leaned on end-of-season sell-offs to fully clear out all excess spring and summer goods, which was roughly 1/3 of the markdown pressure in the quarter and had a $30 million impact to profitability. Higher freight costs were a 200 basis point headwind to the gross margin rate, and the integration of our supply chain acquisitions drove 60 basis points of incremental deleverage. Turning to expenses. SG&A deleveraged 110 basis points compared to the second quarter of 2021. The mid-single-digit dollar increase was in line with guidance provided last quarter, led by higher wages for store associates, new…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Jay Sole with UBS.

Jay Sole

Analyst

I want to ask about Aerie. And if you could just talk about where in the quarter maybe the projection differed from what played out. Was it that your view on the macro was optimistic? Was it some of the styles didn't resonate? Was it some of the categories maybe that you thought would trend didn't versus other categories? If you can just sort of dive in a little bit and talk about where the differences were in that business versus your expectations, that would be great.

Mike Mathias

Analyst

Yes, I can start, Jay. And I could hit some of the trend progression. You can hit the product side of Jay's question. Thanks, Jay, by the way. So if you go back to the first quarter call, May 24, we talked about the consistency of the sales trend that we were seeing through the first quarter. Up in the mid- to high -- mid-teens to high teens to 2019 is what we were talking about then. And we saw that very consistently, February through April. Actually, in May, up into the call, we actually saw May accelerate to that trend a bit, which made us confident in kind of grounding ourselves in that. But what happened, really mid- to late June, just as others have talked about, we did see a deceleration to trends as we got into summer. That's really continued through July, continued into sort of early mid-August, through back-to-school peaks. And we've definitely seen some improvement in recent weeks here as we've kind of got into September and this past Labor Day weekend. But we're still guiding conservatively and we're assuming that high single digit -- the guidance we're providing is assuming that negative high single-digit trend continues that we've seen quarter-to-date so far. So that's what really changed. It was really that mid-June to late June time frame. And I feel like, across the industry, it's been consistent in terms of a bit of a slowdown that occurred at that point. Jen, do you want to answer category for us?

Jennifer Foyle

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Mike, and you said it well. But really, it was isolated in the swim category, to be honest, Jay. We saw really incredible results in all of our other categories. And you heard from Mike how that really impacted from a seasonality standpoint. But well, I like what I'm seeing. Like look, we look forward, we look ahead, we just had one of our best launches ever, the SMOOTHEZ launch, which is highly rooted in intimate apparel, which is seasonless, so I love that category, and leggings are off to a great start. And again, we don't take a lot of markdowns on leggings. They're highly isolated in black. They do the majority of the business. So early on, and it's early to say, but we're very pleased with the results so far for back-to-school. So like I said, going back to Q1 and Q2, very isolated in swim, but other categories saw nice results.

Mike Mathias

Analyst

And Jay, maybe the last point to that, too. In the end, for Aerie specifically, we still saw almost doubling the 2019 results. But by the time we got to the end of the quarter, so from a go-forward perspective, now we feel like inventory is reset very appropriately. We've got these new stores that are still in their ramp-up period. Michael described kind of where we think those are headed. We've got over 100 stores that are sort of noncomp or new going into the back half with inventory reset, very bullish on Aerie for the back half and in terms of where we're going from here, knowing the macro environment is still uncertain. But as we go forward, rest of this year and into 2023, there's a lot of optimism in terms of Aerie's bottom line -- top line growth and bottom line results that we're focused on.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Boss with JPMorgan.

Matthew Boss

Analyst · JPMorgan.

So Jen, could you speak to demand shifts that you're seeing across categories? What changes are you making across the assortment at Aerie and American Eagle in the third quarter? And is there a way to think about the time line needed, in your view, for inventory completely across the board to be fully reset at this point?

Jennifer Foyle

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Sure, Matt. Mike mentioned it, we certainly get in a great position as we move into Q4 and then as we're looking out to 2023 as far as inventory is concerned. I mean the teams have worked tirelessly to make sure that we are in good position, but also making sure that we distort in the right categories. Look, I love what's happening out there right now. We just actually chased something within 19 days. We have deliveries here. So Michael Rempell said it, we're like starting to get best-in-show again. I would like to say -- the testing and the chase that we're capable of doing in this company is remarkable. I mean I learned it 12 years ago when I joined the company. And it's nice to be in a position where logistics are freeing up for us and we're able to sort of move a little bit more seamlessly. There are some category shifts happening. But I just -- it's funny. The team, we were talking today, how we are just so dominant in bottoms. And now that's happening in Aerie as well. From leggings to denim to other bottoms, we are seeing some new shifts in silhouettes in denim. And the teams, like I said, were moving fast and getting into some new categories there from the bottoms perspective. And in Aerie, certainly OFFLINE being a new business for us, we're seeing great results in that business. And I think that, that holds a very promising outlook for the company as far as a growth vehicle. And certainly, as we've been able to shift the categories in American Eagle, I like what I'm seeing in outfitting. It's taken a little time, a little longer than I thought. But early on, for back-to-school, some of the women's trends that we're seeing, we're able to chase. I mentioned that 19-day chase ability. I mean that's pretty impressive. And we're going to continue to test and scale. But mostly, I would like to say that this team has responded fast. We've worked tirelessly. We're not quitting from the marketing to production, to the product categories to the innovation that I'm seeing from this team. We're not quitting here with that. So I'm really proud of the team.

Matthew Boss

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Great. And then, Mike, could you just speak to the magnitude of the recent EBIT margin contraction that we've seen at Aerie? Maybe if you could just elaborate on some of the drivers of double-digit margins in the back half. And has anything changed on your multiyear view of profitability for Aerie? Or how do we maybe break down the structural versus transitory elements of the profitability of Aerie today relative to previous plans?

Mike Mathias

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Sure. Thanks, Matt. I mean to Q2 specifically, really first half, I mean, Aerie had some challenges. Obviously, when we talk -- go back to the supply chain disruptions last fall, the airfreight that we experienced mostly in Q4, that -- like some of that carried into Q1, elevated freight costs in general hitting the brand in Q1 and Q2 beyond the airfreight. We talked about that being a 200 basis point impact to the quarter. Aerie was about half of that, I think. So with $20-something million in total, you could take $10 million to $15 million of that being an Aerie impact. If you think about the -- resetting inventory for -- in Q2 and the $30 million charge I described, Aerie was over half of that. So the combination of those 2 factors, plus the -- Michael talked about the 20 stores we opened in the quarter and the ramp-up of the new stores we've opened in general, those 3 factors, you could take Aerie's operating rate from 3% to double digit in the second quarter alone. So as we get into the back half now, inventory is reset. We don't expect any impact from inventory or us overplanning the business like we did in the first half. Freight actually normalizes. We'll anniversary elevated ocean freight from last year. As we've described, we think there's actually some light at the end of that tunnel in terms of freight cost and freight and transportation coming back in line or maybe even some benefit versus last year. And now, we'll have these new stores carrying into the back half and not really -- not much impact from new store opening costs. So those 3 main factors really go away for the back half. We think inventory is reset. And we're focused on where the profitability is of all these new stores and the business in general. So we're very confident in being double digit in the back half, and we're looking forward to '23 already benefiting from all this growth, 30%-plus square-footage growth from these 100 locations and focusing on at least the mid-teen operating rate, if not better, in terms of how we're setting up our plans for next year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Paul Lejuez with Citi.

Kelly Crago

Analyst · Citi.

This is Kelly Crago on for Paul. Just curious with the brand sales running down high single digits versus last year's quarter-to-date versus the down 2% you saw in 2Q. I was just wondering if you could help us think about that deceleration by brand. And then I'm just curious, given the inventory position has improved so much, is this kind of the function of having less clearance sales available that might have drove some of the sales in 2Q and you're just not expecting that? Just any thoughts there would be great.

Mike Mathias

Analyst · Citi.

Okay, just let me take the last part of that question first. The $30 million impact to the second quarter profitability to get ourselves right to that inventory, devalue that inventory, it's really down to bringing summer goods into August at a historical clearance level. So we still have -- I'll call -- I'll just leave it at that description. We're in line, and we think we're in a good place in terms of typical historical clearance levels coming into August and the sales related to those units. As far as AE's trend, if I think that was the first part of your question, yes, I think we expected coming into Q3 on top of a very hyper back-to-school season last year, with really not having a 2020 back-to-school, stimulus checks out there again, starting in July last year, just that pent-up demand and the amount of money that came to us going back-to-school in the brand because we are such a back-to-school destination, we knew AE lapping that period was going to be tough. So we actually planned for Q3 a bit of a deceleration versus the plan for the first half already, or that was part of the plan initially. So I'm not necessarily surprised by that based on the macro conditions out there and knowing what kind of back-to-school we were lapping last year. And I think we're -- maybe Jen can take on the product side, what we're seeing so far during fall and what we're expecting going forward. But we're expecting that to normalize a bit, knowing we come out of that hyper back-to-school period here after Labor Day.

Jennifer Foyle

Analyst · Citi.

I think you said it well, Mike, just really after coming off of the swim, a little bit of a hangover with the swim business in Aerie in summer. And honestly, obviously, both brands had incredible tailwinds last year. But AE is just getting going. This is a fairly new team and we did have a little bit of that benefit last year with the stimulus and lapping that, the tailwinds, that a lot of retailers benefited of. But I like what I'm seeing on the AE team. We're very conservative. We're sticking with our strategy. Like I said, we're testing and scaling new product categories. We have some excitement coming up for spring 2023. I can't tell you my secrets, but some new launches in the AE brand. And we're not going to stop there. And like I said, it's a fairly new team and I like what they're doing. They're turning into a very well-oiled machine. And the Aerie team, again, we have so many new ideas, so many new categories. I mean I mentioned it. We just launched that SMOOTHEZ category. Let me just say in 1 day, we saw a 30% increase in traffic to the direct site, that 1 day when we launched that campaign. So again, we have to keep on challenging ourselves to comp year-over-year, whether it's marketing, product, production. But that's what we're into right now, and that's what we're thinking about 2023 and beyond.

Kelly Crago

Analyst · Citi.

And just to clarify there. So the American Eagle brand is kind of driving the deceleration in brand sales quarter-to-date relative to 2Q more than Aerie?

Jennifer Foyle

Analyst · Citi.

Do you mind repeating that? Sorry, you faded out a little bit during your question.

Kelly Crago

Analyst · Citi.

Sure. Just it seems like the American Eagle brand is driving the deceleration in brand sales quarter-to-date relative to what you saw in the second quarter. It's more coming from the American Eagle brand versus Aerie.

Jennifer Foyle

Analyst · Citi.

I think it's just based on their likes if you're looking at last year. So Aerie has year-over-year, quarter-over-quarter likes that are high double digits. AE saw nice benefits last year, as I mentioned, from the stimulus. So I think if you just are looking at last year, that might be what you're comparing. But like I said, we're looking at the business on the go-forward. And it's really interesting, and I'm going to pivot here for 1 second. But there are a lot of conversations out there, what's happening in retail, whether it's getting all dressed up, and certainly, the luxury sector is seeing some benefits of weddings and what have you. But I have to tell you, casual lifestyle apparel is not going away with our sector. I watch my daughter every day go to school in sweats and a hoodie and it's here to stay. And I think American Eagle and Aerie does it best as far as comfort, casual lifestyle wear. And that's what we're up to you, and that's what we're focused on in the future.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Marni Shapiro with Retail Tracker.

Marni Shapiro

Analyst · Retail Tracker.

I actually like to take a little bit of a step back. And Jay, I want to address this to you because we've been through, and certainly, you've been through periods of time where the customer has pulled back for a moment in time. But it sounds like there's a lot of confidence still here at the company. You cleared out the inventory. You're positioning for the back half. I guess broadly speaking, knowing what you know, knowing what you've been through, what gives you the confidence for the back half of next year? Is it the brand's spring? And I guess, how do you think about holiday and further into 2023?

Jay Schottenstein

Analyst · Retail Tracker.

So let me ask you, was that question to Jen or is that a question to me? I didn't know who you asked.

Marni Shapiro

Analyst · Retail Tracker.

That's to you. I mean you've been doing this as long as I have been doing this. So...

Jay Schottenstein

Analyst · Retail Tracker.

Well, yes, look, I had been around like a few go-arounds here. We have a great team at American Eagle. The people we have, the merchants we have, are top-notch. They didn't go bad one day. They are top-notch. Jen said that in American Eagle, like we put some new designers in, it takes time for people, if you like, to get acclimated with the brand. But the stuff that I see and the stuff that I see that Jen and the team is working on for the holiday season and for the spring of '23 looks very exciting. And also, introducing new concepts into the brand, not just introducing more gamut, but introducing some additional fresh product and add some new type of product too, which could be very exciting. We emphasized, that this past quarter, we opened -- it was our biggest opening, like Aerie stores, which we should get the benefit in the future. We're seeing -- I'm seeing -- today, I don't want to get too excited because I'll say something and all of a sudden, somebody else pops up somewhere else as far as like the rest of the world. But I feel very good about the company. I see the freight rates are going the right way, our timing's coming back on. These past 2 years, everything got out of sync. We had countries close up on us. We had to put stuff on containers. And containers, all of a sudden, they got backed up in ports. It's been a strange year. Like Jen said, she was smiling because she was able to chase a product and get it in 19 days. We haven't had that happen to us since the beginning of 2020. So that's a very good sign for us to get back in sync. I think the company is going to be in great shape. And to see the way that investors carry on, I can't control that. The only thing I can control is what we do. And we have a great company, and we have great vision. We're very innovative, whether we're innovative in merchandise, whether we're innovating our technology. I think if you walk into the mall, it's one of the best-looking stores in the malls. We're figuring out more efficient ways of getting the merchandise to the customer and to the stores. So I think we're doing a lot of stuff right. I think we got caught up in this past year, going against last year's figures. But for the future, I think we'll be one of the big winners out there.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Adrienne Yih with Barclays.

Adrienne Yih-Tennant

Analyst · Barclays.

Actually, Jay, this might still be for you, but anybody who wants to comment on it. Can you talk about the changing competitive landscape? I know that we have always talked about kind of fast fashion, and there's faster fashion with Boohoo and Asos and now, there's super fast fashion with competitors such as Shein. So I'm just wondering how often do you, kind of in your research, how often do you compete against them? And what does that do to the overall kind of pricing pressure? And then for Mike, when you talk about a pause in the dividend, does that -- would that imply a pause in repurchase activity as well? Or are those 2 distinct events?

Jennifer Foyle

Analyst · Barclays.

Hey, I can take that if you want. As far as fast fashion and competition, look, there's always competition. I mean that's what our job is, right, to compete and to try to do it better than anyone else out there. And certainly, we're humble, and we certainly pay attention to the new up-and-comers, Shein being one of them. And look, we look at building our brand. We're brand-builders. We protect our brands, both American Eagle -- I mean, certainly American Eagle is something to be proud of and Aerie, the new up-and-comer. And that's what we're up to. We are up to building our brands, protecting our brands, not turning on a dial. I think slow-and-steady wins the race in brand-building and how we think about our business. And we think long-term, right? So obviously, the retail sector has been hit a little bit more recently. But we're in this for the long haul. And I like what I'm seeing in the future. Jay already said it. He said there's innovation out there that's up-and-coming. We have new ideas. Every day, we have some really new exciting concepts that we're going to launch. And yes, that's -- we stay focused, we stay in our lane. And something I tell our teams every day is just stay in your lane, stick with our brands and look ahead and make sure that we're innovating and competing on our terms.

Jay Schottenstein

Analyst · Barclays.

And Jen, you talked about concept, we have Todd Snyder, which is on fire there. Mike, do you want to talk about that a bit, Michael Rempell?

Michael Rempell

Analyst · Barclays.

Yes, sure. I mean look, we're not just -- we are working on American Eagle and Aerie and obviously doing some great innovative things there. But we're also incubating new brands and new businesses. So one of the things we're proud of as a company is we're not resting on our laurels. We're not solely dependent on one business to drive the company. But we're looking for ways to grow it into the future. So we have Todd Snyder, which is up well over 50% this year. We're expanding its footprint, opening more stores. It's still an 80% digital business. It's going to be profitable, growing nicely. We're incubating on unsubscribed, which is an exciting new concept that Jen and team launched quietly last year that has about 5 stores open and is doing very nicely. And of course, we're investing in Quiet, which is a business that not only is it providing benefits to American Eagle, but we're very excited about where that's headed and the potential in that business.

Mike Mathias

Analyst · Barclays.

I can handle the -- yes, Adrienne, your question on the dividend. I think, look, our priorities are the same. We are investing back into the business first, which we've done pretty aggressively in the last 2 years and are continuing this year. We've talked about the 100-plus Aerie and OFFLINE locations, and we continue to invest in our digital and supply chain capabilities this year with other projects. On top of that, we've already returned $265 million back year-to-date to shareholders between $65 million in dividend and then the $200 million ASR that was strategically tied to that early convert settlement to offset the dilution of the shares we issued there. But that $265 million is the highest we returned to shareholders in a year since 2015. I think Jay and I both said that in our prepared remarks. So at this point now, we're looking at improving profitability in the back half, generating positive free cash flow in the back half, into next year. And then I'm confident we'll get back to some level of appropriate dividend and investing back in the business first, where we see -- where appropriate, some level of appropriate dividend and then opportunistic share repurchases the way we've approached it. But we will definitely -- we've got the history of returning cash to shareholders, and we will definitely get back to that once we bolster our cash position a bit here.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Kimberly Greenberger with Morgan Stanley.

Kimberly Greenberger

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

I wanted to just check on inventory. If you could talk about how much you expect inventory to be down at the end of the year, that would be great. I'm just cognizant that at the end of fourth quarter last year, inventory was up around 24% compared to 2019. But looking at the revenue run rate here in the second quarter, revenue -- total revenue is up only, it looks like, about 15% compared to the second quarter of 2019. So I'm just wondering if -- how much you think you could cut inventory by the end of the fourth quarter. And what would your preliminary plan be for how much you would expect inventory to be down next year?

Mike Mathias

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Hi, Kimberly. I think the fourth quarter right now, I mean, a lot of volume to go, a lot of business to be had. Our projections as we sit here today, we would be down in the double-digit range. So something probably low-double to maybe mid-teen. But that's again a preliminary projection where we find that as we go. And then for next year, we are going to continue to plan conservatively. This is still an uncertain environment. I think the great thing we're excited about is that we're back to -- from a time line perspective, Michael talked about it, being able to chase again. So we're not committing to inventory 3 to 6 months earlier like we had to in the past 12 months as part of our part of our issue in the spring seasons, how early we committed to those plans and didn't have much flexibility. So we're looking at spring as we speak. We've had some initial conversations. Some initial POs have been placed. But we're keeping a lot open to -- and keeping ourselves flexible now that the time lines are back to some of the historical flexibility that we're used to.

Kimberly Greenberger

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

That's really great color. And on the $70 million in freight relief in the back half, I'm wondering if you can help us understand how that portions out between Q3 and Q4. You also alluded to some savings you anticipate in the first half of the year next year. Any numbers you can help us with on that, that would be great.

Mike Mathias

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

I believe I'm looking -- I think it was $10 million in Q3 and $60 million in Q4 was the airfreight...

Michael Rempell

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

That's right, Mike. Yes.

Mike Mathias

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Yes.

Michael Rempell

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Yes, it was $10 million in Q3, Kimberly, and $60 million in Q4 for the airfreight.

Mike Mathias

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

And some of that airfreight carried over into Q1 a bit with goods that we sold. That's when we incurred that expense. And we actually sell the units, so some of that impacted Q1 as well and we see some benefit there, we believe, too.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Janet Joseph Kloppenburg with JJK Research Associates.

Janet Kloppenburg

Analyst · JJK Research Associates.

I was wondering, Jen, if you could talk a little bit about this shift in denim. We're hearing a lot of mixed weeds on denim right now and maybe some disappointment in back-to-school performance. If you could talk about that and if there's a shift towards something dressier or maybe pants and how American Eagle might be positioned for that. And as we look to the future, and you talk about introducing new concepts, I'm just wondering if some of this dress-up trend that we're seeing prevalent today is something that American Eagle can participate in and perhaps that some of your new concepts are built around that, or if you think the dress-up trend is just a temporary moment.

Jennifer Foyle

Analyst · JJK Research Associates.

How are you, Janet, by the way.

Janet Kloppenburg

Analyst · JJK Research Associates.

Yes. I'm great. How are you?

Jennifer Foyle

Analyst · JJK Research Associates.

Yes, I'm really -- I'm doing well, doing well. Like I said, I think the casual trend is here to stay. And certainly, our generation and the generations to come love casual, comfortable, sportswear, which I'd like to say we do best. And when it comes to denim, there's definitely some shifts, Janet, and we're certainly reacting to it. We've been working on the inventory. That was a big piece of the inventory rationalization that we need to do from an AE standpoint, and we've been working on that. But inside of denim, there are some really -- some great hotspots that we're seeing that we're able to now go in and distort some of these baggier fits that you're definitely seeing out there, flare. And then we always have our staple in jeggings. And then there is a shift, for sure, into some other bottoms that we're starting to see. And certainly, we're testing all of the silhouettes as we speak again. And we've actually instigated -- like we've initiated a whole new test and scale, not even just based on the time lines that we're getting now based on just the logistics freeing up. We're actually trying new testing scenarios that are going to make us even more smart or smarter, I should say, for the future. So those are in play right now. We're going to get results very soon, and we're going to be able to -- as Mike and Michael said, we're going to be able to implement those tests for spring and on the go-forward. So -- and there are some new exciting trends happening in bottoms. So we're excited about that. And then when it comes to our new idea, I can't tell you, but it's very exciting. And it will be launched for spring 2023. And it's a new concept for us, and I'm pretty excited about. We've already had some early reads on some of the product categories and very well-received, very well-received. So more to come there. I can tell you one secret. It's in the American Eagle brand. So very exciting.

Operator

Operator

Our last question comes from the line of Dana Telsey with Telsey Advisory Group.

Dana Telsey

Analyst

As you think about the Aerie business and the rate of growth, can you talk a little bit about store openings? Obviously, you've opened a lot of stores over the past few years. How do you think of current store metrics? And how do you think of the growth of existing stores and what you're doing and adding on the product front?

Jay Schottenstein

Analyst

We know Jen can answer part of it, but the part of it also is like we're very excited about Aerie's and OFFLINE. OFFLINE is a new concept for us. It's being very well-received. We think it's a big opportunity there, too. And Mike, what do you want to add?

Mike Mathias

Analyst

Yes, I can just say, I think -- it's a good question, Dana. It's very -- something we're very focused on, not just for the back half, but we're really -- I think it's a major opportunity for us next year in terms of improved profitability, obviously for the brand, but then impacting the company as well. So we know that when we open these many stores, we do have a short-term comp impact as markets absorb these new locations and digital shoppers in those markets kind of go to the new stores, and then we see a ramp-up of customers and what we call our digital halo effect 6 to 12 months later. So if you think about these 100 stores we just opened, we'll carry these into the back half, get our plans right set around them, focus on that into '23, and that digital piece of it kind of kicks in. You can do some of your own math on just the implied revenue growth from these stores. And if we believe inventory being positioned conservatively but appropriately to drive the right margin rates, expense focus, we can be mid- to high-teen operating rate, and that will be our goal for the brand. So off of this year's kind of guided profitability, it means significant impact to next year in our mind and that's -- we're already focused on that. And for next year, as we talked about, look, we're going to -- we want to grow into these investments. So we have $250 million in capital last year, $250 million in capital this year, a lot of it tied to these Aerie and OFFLINE stores. So from a cash flow perspective and the sort of philosophy that we want to generate, positive free cash flow and focus on the profitability of the investments that we've made, we're probably going to look at a relatively smaller new store count for next year, just so we can focus on that. But we still believe there's runway in terms of store growth over the next 3 years. I think there's just a lot of benefit to focusing on the profitability of what we've already invested in over the next 4 to 6 quarters.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of today's question-and-answer session. I would like to turn this call back over to Mr. Jay Schottenstein for closing remarks.

Jay Schottenstein

Analyst

Okay. Thank you for joining us today. And hopefully, next earnings calls, that we have like we have more positive news.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation, and enjoy the rest of your day.