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American Electric Power Company, Inc. (AEP)

Q1 2014 Earnings Call· Fri, Apr 25, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the American Electric Power First Quarter 2014 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later we will conduct a question-and-answer session; instructions will be given at that time. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, today’s call is being recorded. Your hosting speaker Bette Jo Rozsa. Please go ahead.

Bette Jo Rozsa

Management

Thank you, Kevin. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the first quarter 2014 earnings webcast of American Electric Power. Our earnings release, presentation slides and related financial information are available on our website at aep.com. Today, we will be making forward-looking statements during the call. There are many factors that may cause future results to differ materially from these statements. Please refer to our SEC filings for a discussion of these factors. Joining me this morning for opening remarks are Nick Akins, our Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Brian Tierney, our Chief Financial Officer. We will take your questions following their remarks. I will now turn the call over to Nick.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

.: And second I would maintain that the cause of the initiatives previously implemented by the company, regarding improved capital allocation to transmission in the operating companies focused on process improvement activity, such as lean in our power plants and wires business and the development of our unregulated generation business. We would not have been successful in capturing the value of the off-system sales benefits from the extreme weather and market conditions as a result of the polar vortex. I can give you several instances that it was impaired that the cultural initiatives that have – and still the teamwork and ingenuity paid off to ensure our generation was available to the benefit of our shareholders and our customer. Before Brian and I get into the details of the quarter, let me go over the headlines for the quarter and for the reminder of the year. AEP earnings for the first quarter both GAAP and operating came in at a $1.15 per share compared with $0.75 GAAP and $0.80 per share operating for first quarter 2013. Because of the strong results, and after review of cash flow and earnings metrics for the reminder of the year, we are increasing our 2014 guidance for 320 to 340 per share to 335 to 355 per share. We are reaffirming guidance for 2015 and 2016 in the 4% to 6% earnings growth rate based upon the original guidance given in 2013. We will continue to monitor the fundamentals in particular, load and energy markets along with the progress of our previously announced initiatives to announce any further guidance detailed during the EEI financial conference in the fall. Additionally, as we mentioned to you in our last earnings call, if we were to get ahead from a cash and earnings perspective we would reinvest…

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Thank you, Nick. And good morning everyone, on Slide 5 you’ll see our comparison of 2014 results to 2013 bisegment for the quarter. As we announced last fall at the EEI Conference we have adjusted our earnings presentation to align with our big business segments following our corporate structuring. The segment reporting detail for the first quarter of 2014 and pro forma for 2013 can be found in the supplemental information package posted on our website and in the 10-Q that we plan to file later today, the recently completed corporate separation provided the occasion for us to define segments with make our reporting simpler and more transparent. For the company overall operating earnings for the first quarter were $560 million or $1.15 per share up $0.35 per share compared to the $387 million or $0.80 per share recorded last year. Generally the year-over-year improvement was realized across all segments and was driven by new rates that reflected our increased customer focus investment strong generation performance that captured high prices for wholesale power and high weather related retail sales. With that as an overview let me step you through the major earnings drivers bisegment on Slide 6. Earnings for the vertically integrated segment were $0.57 per share up $0.16 per share compared to the first quarter of 2013 significant drivers include customer focus investment and our utilities that resulted in rate changes across many of our jurisdictions adding $0.08 per share for the quarter. In addition the effect of extreme weather winter temperatures improved earnings by $0.07 per share heating degree days were 25% higher in the East and 30% higher in the West when compared to last year. Higher wholesale power prices and strong performance by our generation group bolstered off-system sales which benefited shareholders and customers the higher…

Operator

Operator

Thank you (Operator Instructions). First question from the line of Dan Eggers, Credit Suisse. Please go ahead. Dan L. Eggers – Credit Suisse Securities LLC: Hi, good morning guys.

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Analyst · Dan Eggers, Credit Suisse

Good morning, Dan. Dan L. Eggers – Credit Suisse Securities LLC: A couple of your neighbors in Ohio have made announcements that they’re looking next to their generation assets to a sales process. Can you just give an update on what your thought process is for your fleet and what bearing the first quarter may or may not have had on making that decision?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Yes, I think our process is unchanged, we’ve said earlier that, we are going to be focusing on producing value out of that piece of the business to position that business the best we can. To try to take some of the volatility out of business and certainly to do what we can from a cost stand point within that business. And Chuck and in his team are definitely working on all of those activity. So I’d – the first quarter doesn’t change our opinion of our look at that business one way or another. And I think that, as we go through the process we still have yet to see those per cursors that we talked about earlier, what happens to the capacity markets? Certainly what happens to the energy markets? What we can do with the cost structure of that business? And then how do we take the volatility of the business with not only the capacity markets, but the hedging activities that are occurring in the background relative to regulated generation. So we’re still, that we’re still on the same time schedule having the same discussions with our board as we go through this process and we will continue that and make decisions later on in this year and the next year. Dan L. Eggers – Credit Suisse Securities LLC: And I guess Nick one of the ideas if you find people who would sign longer-term contracts and be interested in staying in those assets. With the first quarter volatility kind of timing market conditions, Are you having a change in tone in those conversations at this juncture?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Yes, sort of interesting there is discussion about long-term purchase power arrangements that could occur relative to this generation I think the polar vortex the sense that there is – certainly there is no when you look at the long-term markets is illiquid there is not much out there going on and sort of tends to keep those process low in the future, but we know that is the closure we get to this generation retiring, that’s likely to change. And I firmly believe there is renewed interest and what that generation looks like and how it can preserve from a long-term PPA perspective customers expectations around taking out that volatility and having some consistency. So, yes we are getting some interest in that, yet to determine what that means but it we see sustained energy process that are a bit higher than anticipated in the capacity markets we were I’m sure the degree of interest will intensify as well. So again our position is not changed relative to that, we can make it look cause our regulated then it’s a business that’s worth taking a look at. Dan L. Eggers – Credit Suisse Securities LLC: Great, thanks. And just one last question, can you give us an update on where coal inventories are at this point in time and under the strategy around the country you have full availability for this one.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Yes, so we’re fine on coal deliveries, we’re at about 25 days on average on the system, we were 35 days going into the winner. So and keep in mind our suppliers are taken to the Mississippi and then – and then we have the Barge business to bring that coal to the plant. So we are in good shape there and most of our delivers are over the Union Pacific Railroad and their performance has been recently well rolled down as well. I think as we move into summer, that’s when inventory levels start to improve, but anticipation of warmer weather over the summer, but we are in great shape.

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Dan, we’ve heard of some people doing things like burning more gas to build up their coal inventories, we went into the winter fairly healthy and we haven’t had to change or dispatch our commitment at all in response to our coal levels. Dan L. Eggers – Credit Suisse Securities LLC: Great. Thank you guys.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Sure.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Brian Chin, Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Good morning, Brian. Brian Chin – Bank of America Merrill Lynch International Ltd.: Hi, good morning. On the $60 million to $70 million in cost shifting, is it fair to think about that, is that a cumulative amount of cost shifting from 2015 and 2016 into 2014?

Brian X. Tierney

Management

What do you mean by cumulative? Brian Chin – Bank of America Merrill Lynch International Ltd.: So, $60 million to $70 million in bringing forecast from 2015 and 2016 together, so in other words the expense levels in 2015 and 2016 prior to this announcement we should bought about is being $60 million to $70 million higher over the two years?

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Yes, it was forecasted to be spent for us in 2015 and 2016 and we’ve now taken those costs and activities out of 2015 and 2016 and are now reflecting in 2014. Brian Chin – Bank of America Merrill Lynch International Ltd.: And is that more of our front-end loaded as in more 2015 level of cost shifting or it’s more backend loaded as in more 2016 and then also could you give a little bit more of a business segment breakdown of that cost shifting?

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Yes, so it’s evenly spread across both years and it’s across all of our business segments, so this significant component of it coming from generation and moving outages out of those years into 2014. Brian Chin – Bank of America Merrill Lynch International Ltd.: Excellent. Thank you very much.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Thank you, Brian.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Stephen Byrd, Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Stephen C. Byrd – Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Good morning.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Hi, Stephen. How you doing? Stephen C. Byrd – Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Great, thank you. I wanted to talk more about your high case growth plans and transmission, you are showing real good progress this year, could you maybe talk at a high level as to – as you think about what needs to happened to be able to achieve that growth over the next couple of years in terms of whether that be approvals or planning efforts resource, whatever it might be just how we should sort of think about the risk of execution, or what approvals, what milestones you need to hit to be able to achieve that growth.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Yes, so we’ve been very clear for probably two or three years now that and I don’t know if you can recall the slide that had the base transmission and then had a green piece above that was incremental transmission that were real projects that were ready to be done, but we had to fund the capital to do it and what you see in this quarter is refocus of $200 million on that incremental green portion. So as far as risk there is very little risk associated with those projects that are already identified, rate to be done, and you can expect those returns relative to those investments to occur. So and as we look forward to the business I think we’ve been a proponent order 1000 and very focused on our joint ventures as well in our Transource entity, ETT and others and they move forward pretty well as well. So we continue to look for ways to continue to improve the transmission earnings profile and that’s a very distinct focus for us. But the only things we’re reporting are real projects and we sort of learned our lesson awhile back about the supposition of what may happen we’ve gotten over that.

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Steven the beauty of the chart that shows the incremental transmission spend that we can make going from the base case to the high case, is that we can fund that serially as capital becomes available. So whether it’s cash flows from operations, the bonus depreciation should get approved later this year. We can serially fund that incremental growth capital on a year-by-year basis and as we talked about earlier, cash flows from operations enabled us to do it this year and we’ll just see how this – the end of this year and future year’s play out. But since we have that growth opportunity existing within our own business, that’s an awful smart place for us to put incremental capital to work. Stephen C. Byrd – Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: That’s great color, thank you. And just follow up on transmission, when you look at the competitive side of the business I’m just curious if you could talk at a high level attitude the competitive dynamics there, how competitive is that, how do you access your capabilities versus others. How does that business playing out?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

I think we’re absolutely well positioned from a competitive standpoint. Obviously that’s why we’ve proponent of it. But when we look at the projects that we do, the project flow, the project management structure, the engineering expertise that we have and the fact that we’ve got joint ventures around portions of the country and just with the scope of our transmission system drives the benefits for our investors relative to transmission. We’re well positioned in terms of the breadth and if you are plowing $1.7 billion a year in transmission projects which that’s what we’re doing over the next three year period each year. That’s a pretty substantial critical mass around the growth of transmission. So we’re not gold plating anything, we’re not trying to fund projects just to do projects, these are all immediate projects in terms of refurbishment and reoptimization of the grid with retirements and generation and so forth. So a very clear path for the business case relative to transmission as far as AEP is concerned. Stephen C. Byrd – Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: That’s great color. Thank you very much.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Yes.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith, UBS. Please go ahead. Julien Dumoulin-Smith – UBS Securities LLC: Hi, good morning.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Good morning, Julien. Julien Dumoulin-Smith – UBS Securities LLC: So quick follow-up there on the generation business. I’d be curious, is there any tolerability in Ohio as you are thinking about it, perhaps to see some of those longer term contract against the remainder of the generation business in particular?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Yes, sort of an interesting thing, Ohio certainly needs to take notice in my opinion of what happened during the polar vortex, and I would have to say that there is discussions going on relative to how Ohio would do with that in the future. Because it’s a clear indication that we really do need to think about the portfolio for Ohio customers that has a long-term component and a short-term component to it and customers are continued to allow the switch. But keep in mind I mean we separated our generation and it is separated. So if we would do purchase power arrangements and that kind of thing. It would have to be something to provide value to consumers on the long-term, but also value to the company as far as hedging that generation for the long-term. And I think there is a distinct opportunity for those types of discussions. It’s positive for us, it’s a positive for Ohio and it’s certainly positive for consumers in the long run particularly industrial customers, who are looking at the polar vortex and where energy markets win, there is high degree of concern about that. So, more work to be done there. Julien Dumoulin-Smith – UBS Securities LLC: Interesting, is it about savings some of the more marginal goal assets, kind of in a more normalized environment, or is this about just again security and supply? I suppose you could kind of cut it both ways?

Brian X. Tierney

Management

I think it’s cut both ways, when you look at jobs, taxes certainly generation within Ohio and the fact that Ohio really depended upon the capacity markets to provide long-term pricing as we knew that’s not going to happen or at least not has happened thus far. So there is a degree of interest area that needs to occur relative to taking matters in their own hands from an Ohio perspective. Julien Dumoulin-Smith – UBS Securities LLC: Interesting, and I will be curious following upon all the Utica discussion, are you seeing any nascent development on the gas project front I mean I will be curious just in terms of new gas plant entry and also broadly where gas basis is headed in your neck of the woods up there?

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Well, I think it’s a challenge in Ohio, because certainly from a Utica standpoint, there is a great opportunity to use a resource that’s indigenous within Ohio. But at the same time you got to have the fundamentals in the market and an improving economy to drive that investment and right now you have at least some glamour of hope on the economic recovery, but at the same time the market signals just aren’t there. So we need to get that solidified before you see natural gas-type development. Julien Dumoulin-Smith – UBS Securities LLC: Great, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Next question is from the line of Greg Gordon, ISI Group. Please go ahead.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Good morning, Greg. Greg Gordon – International Strategy & Investment Group LLC: Thanks, good morning guys. So, I understand you’re taking the opportunity to accelerate some expenses into the year given to the phenomenal opportunities in the first quarter and the earnings result. But then also looking at the earnings guidance range, what are you assuming as a baseline that your annual sales forecast comes in as originally articulated or you assuming that you see the trend line as you saw in the first quarter?

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Yes, we have unchanged the load forecast at this point in the guidance, even in the adjusted guidance range that we’ve now given, so because we are very clear that one quarter does not make a trend and certainly form a polar vertex perspective there is a continued cold weather, could that have skewed the weather normalization routines that we usually go through to adjust these numbers. And whenever we get extreme heat or extreme cold for a long period of time, you have to question that. So we’re going – have to see some during this coming quarter and the third quarter a consistency around that before we make those kinds of adjustments and we’re being deliberately conservative there.

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Greg we are forecasting, we have factored in the forecast the higher wholesale prices for the balance of the year.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Yes. As far as energy prices, that’s changed. Greg Gordon – International Strategy & Investment Group LLC: Okay, so you factored in higher sort of APC wholesale prices, but you haven’t assumed anymore volatility of the nature that we saw?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

No. Greg Gordon – International Strategy & Investment Group LLC: And then you are saying that when I look at page 8, that 4.4% 1Q 2014 residential, weather normal number, you are saying you are nerves that it might not be in accurate number in your 41 to see how things trends in the second and third quarter?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Yes, just saying we don’t no to the degree at this point to really make that adjustment and, but I think it’s pretty clear though that directionally it’s in the right direction. It is increasing, the question is the order of magnitude and before we make that adjustment we want to be very secured in what we are seeing.

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Greg, for the first time and some time we saw on both the residential and commercial classes significantly higher average normalized usage and more concern that the normalization models don’t behave as well at describing the weather effects versus the normal effects in extreme weather, and so we’d like to see another quarter before we start thinking about changing the balance of the year load forecast. Greg Gordon – International Strategy & Investment Group LLC: Great, thanks. Obviously, great start. Congratulations.

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Thank you, Greg.

Operator

Operator

Next question is from the line of Paul Patterson, Glenrock Associates. Please go ahead. Paul Patterson – Glenrock Associates LLC: Good morning.

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Good morning. Paul Patterson – Glenrock Associates LLC: The sales growth forecast, the 10-year forecast that you guys recently put out, maybe just kind of sort of lower growth over 10 years. I guess negative growth are just flattish or what how you. And I was wondering if you sort of comment on that and whether or not you think that might change with the legislation that’s being purposed and just sort of how we should think about that I guess this is all Ohio, I’m sorry. If you could just sort of discuss sort of a little bit about that and what you are thinking is going on there?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Yes, so sort of a frame of reference that was used in that, if you looked at sort of comparing Apples and Oranges because one includes Ormet obviously the future anticipated it is nice. So if you exclude Ormet the energy is increasing. Paul Patterson – Glenrock Associates LLC: Okay, but the load forecast it sounds when I look at it seems like it’s declining or just slightly flat really over the years, it doesn’t look like there is really much change let say from 2016 to 2024?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Yes, that’s true, we’ve been anticipating for period now that load forecasting will be relatively flat and we haven’t changed that because we haven’t seen the longevity of the fundamentals. I mean we’re seeing initial indication in the fourth quarter of last year, I think we’ve seen a broader indication this first quarter, but I think it will more capital we are going to see in another quarter to and make that determination. Paul Patterson – Glenrock Associates LLC: Okay, does any of this have to do with the legislation that’s being, that’s currently in place or might change in Ohio or could that have an impact that we should think about and if so can you give us a feeling for that?

Brian X. Tierney

Management

No, overall the energy efficiency was pretty negligible to begin with in the overall scheme of things but as far as the legislation is concerned it’s not I mean its not a significant impact at all. Paul Patterson – Glenrock Associates LLC: Okay, and then just following up on Julien’s question, contracting, it sounded to me that there might be some industrial interest in this. But also I wasn’t clear whether or not there is any governmental interest in this. There was some comments on the part of the governor in Ohio excuse me about so second thoughts perhaps on deregulation and whether it was the best move. I was wondering if you just elaborate a little bit if there is, if there is a thought like hey you mentioned field diversity what have you but perhaps the thought that something new should change from a state policy perspective to sort of ensure that there’s still diversity and all the things that nuclear and coal provide.

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Yes, and certainly the Governor can speak for himself. But there is certainly is recognition but its apparent by the governor and as well others including industrials that we really have to think about how to address this lack of market consistency particularly as it relates to the PJM capacity market. But we do have legislation in place, we do have competition that’s there our generation is separated. So you really have to think about that in the context of how you make these adjustments. And keep in mind we in December AEP filed its ESP case with a PPA arrangement from a portion of our units that was in a partnership or OVEK units that allowed for recovery through a purchase power arrangement. And you could see some expansion of that PPA to accommodate other generation resources within the state and that would be a way to address at least some portion of the overall requirement of Ohio customers that could be served with a long-term for formal based rate contract that could supply some of those needs. And that’s something that could be done. And I think as people become more aware of where we stand relative to retirements of coal-fired generation where we stand in terms of if we do have an economic recovery that’s occurring at the same time Ohio has to really think about not only the investment potential for new generation but also the maintenance of existing generation and that’s what the key component of these discussion within tale. Paul Patterson – Glenrock Associates LLC: Do you think there will be any need for change in regulatory or legislation or I mean with that entail any of that or is there something that could be done under current constructors that you see.

Brian X. Tierney

Management

No, we see it as something that could be done under the current constructors evidenced by our PPA arrangement that we filed in our ESP filing late last year we believe that would be done and customers could continue to choose although and all likely have the long-term PPA’s would be non-bypassable charge or something like that they would benefit Ohio in total, but and at the same time allow customers to continue to shop and choose suppliers. Paul Patterson – Glenrock Associates LLC: Okay. Thanks a lot, really appreciated.

Operator

Operator

Next question is from the line of Jonathan Arnold, Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Hi, Jonathan. Jonathan P. Arnold – Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.: Good morning guys. And just quick question on the I think in the annual guidance you had laid out I think $175 million for rate relief is the target I just conform, is that 65 that you had in the first quarter is that one on an apples-to-apple basis, sort of 65 to 175 of the bag. Is that the right way to think about it?

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Well, it’s on an annualize basis the 175, so it’s for the full year of 2014. So, we’re of the 175 that we’ve previously identified we are right on track to get all of that. Jonathan P. Arnold – Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.: So, that I know you are on track to get exceeded that?

Brian X. Tierney

Management

No. Jonathan P. Arnold – Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.: That’s still the number. Okay.

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Yes, we are right on it. Jonathan P. Arnold – Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.: Thanks, Brian. And one other thing, I was just curious that you look at the portfolio, and how it performed in the first quarter. You obviously had some of the sales commitments and then the access to sell spot. If you kind of imagine a world where you hadn’t had the plants that you are going to be shutting, would you still have been that long and would you been kind of more in places showed and how is the portfolio kind of evolving to address that?

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Well, it’s two things. One is that there clearly would have been less volume, right there was a 52% capacity factor on the 1800 megawatts, but for the whole country sake and there would be less volume and likely higher prices. So we don’t know what the net effect of that would be – would we’ve had more hours that $1800 megawatt hour.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

And keep in mind that from the generation perspective we no longer have the obligation to serve in Ohio. So it really is about an optimization business is oppose to ever increasing demand and having to serve them. So that really drives the whole different business model relative to that and then from the overall market context as Brian said certainly there is implications and shortage of capacity and I think people are realizing that.

Brian X. Tierney

Management

To answer your question directly Jonathan as well we would still be net long. Jonathan P. Arnold – Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.: Yes, I’m thinking the 1800 megawatts to 52% CapEx, it probably wouldn’t have been the whole of that 31%?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

That’s correct. Jonathan P. Arnold – Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.: Great. Okay, thank you very much.

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Yes.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from the line of Paul Ridzon, KeyBanc. Please go head. Paul T. Ridzon – KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.: Good morning. Can you hear me?

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Yes, Paul. We can hear you. Paul T. Ridzon – KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.: Just wanted to clarify that this $200 million transmission is not an acceleration, it’s actually incremental that you found because you have this capital head room?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

That’s right, it’s incremental. Paul T. Ridzon – KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.: And I didn’t see any discussion of Ohio shopping. Is that a big impact or have we kind of lapped out at this point?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Yes, we’re in the upper 60% right now in terms of switching; we anticipate that by the end of the year we’d be about 71% switched. Paul T. Ridzon – KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.: Okay, and then any comments about your expectations about the upcoming auction?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Are we talking about the PJM capacity auction or… Paul T. Ridzon – KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.: Yes, yes sorry, sorry PJM.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Yes, our expectation is that the capacity prices will go probably in that $80 to $100 per megawatt day range, but who knows I mean because the way this capacity construct works, where things happen all the time. And as long as we get some of these adjustments from a FERC perspective that certainly will be helpful. But again it’s one of those things that, and it goes back to the earlier discussion of how we view this business. If you can’t really that market construct and PJM it’s very difficult to really map out what the revenues are going to be from a capacity standpoint. So hopefully, it will be certainly something that is more adequate, certainly for the continued operations of base load generation like coal and nuclear. Paul T. Ridzon – KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Next question is from the line of Steven Fleishman, Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Good morning, Steve. Steve I. Fleishman – Wolfe Research LLC: Hi, first clarification to 25 day coal piles you have now. What would that be versus like a normal or year-ago?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Last year I think we were still at the 30, 35 day range, I think it was 35 we move from 45 to 35, but it’s not unusual we’ve had inventory levels in the past as low as 10 day. So it’s not anything that, that we have to do any corrective action around. Steve I. Fleishman – Wolfe Research LLC: Okay. Second question is on I think you mentioned at these PJM uplift charges was a bit of a drag in the quarter? Did you – were you able to pass those through it all or you have to kind of absorb those?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

So the once that identified that made up, most of that $0.05 per share difference for the vertically integrated we’re in the jurisdictions where we couldn’t pass them through. In some of our jurisdictions we are allowed to pass them through on trackers.

Brian X. Tierney

Management

You can pass them through on trackers you have the opportunity to recover them

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

In future periods.

Brian X. Tierney

Management

In future periods. Steve I. Fleishman – Wolfe Research LLC: Okay. And did you defer then the cost of those, or you could do that.

Brian X. Tierney

Management

We were not able to defer those. Steve I. Fleishman – Wolfe Research LLC: Okay. And you are going to see coal recovery like first energy as in some of these on your retail contracts can you do that?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Yes, so these are different items that we are talking about, one was for the vertically integrated utilities. And then there is the issue of passing through to customers on our competitive retail side. We’ve made a corporate decision that we’re not going to pass those through associated with the first quarter of this year. We have a misstep in some customers started to see those charges pass through, we have gone back and since corrected that and for this quarter we are not passing those incremental charges through to our competitive retail customers. Steve I. Fleishman – Wolfe Research LLC: Okay. One last question, we are going to get the EPA green house gas rule soon for existing and just made curious what you’re expecting there and how you are thinking about potential implications?

Brian X. Tierney

Management

Yes, if you hear what’s being said, certainly Gena McCarthy has been public about certainly they don’t have any – at least they are not focused on anything relative to reducing the reliability of the grid. I think that’s clearly within question now and she has reinforced the point that they are not trying to take coal away that there are not – they are concerned about the reliability of the grid and won’t do anything to unpair that. So there is somewhat of an expectation that they may go outside the fence and focus on energy efficiency on those types of things with the state, and give the states which I said they would give the state a lot of opportunity to be able to come up with their mechanisms to adjust to the new targets. So it’s going to be I mean in my opinion it’s going to wind up being a state process that we go through, and one that at least dispose to provide a significant amount of flexibility and how we respond and certainly with Hazmat went further then anyone anticipated in terms of retirement generation, and in fact AEP is already 21% lower than 2005 levels and the present targets worth 17% by 2020. So the industry is already come along way and the particular AEP has, so I think as long as they give that geographic and state flexibility we should have an opportunity to respond in very incredible fashion.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Steven Fleishman, Wolfe Research. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Operator, we have time for one more question.

Operator

Operator

Okay. Next question is from the line of Michael Lapides, Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Michael J. Lapides – Goldman Sachs & Co.: Hey, guys congrats on a great quarter and thank you for taking my call.

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Thanks, Michael. Michael J. Lapides – Goldman Sachs & Co.: I just want to look at Slide 4 where you show the earned ROEs by jurisdiction. And I want to compare it to the same slide from the first quarter of 2013’s earnings call. Because if I do that, except for Ohio Power in Texas, pretty much everything else is down year-over-year rolling 12 months. How much of those decreases do you attribute to weather versus other factors?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Yes, I don’t see much of it in terms of weather. I think the ones that are down have investments that are occurring like there is – there is a transfers that occurred to APCo and to Kentucky that takes a while to stabilize after you make these certain I mean settlement deals that are done and then you come in for rate cases for recovery for Mitchell and Kentucky and so forth. And then of course Turk being just built in SWEPCO, so and then the transmission the heavy investment cycle it’s going on there. So I think it’s really more reflection of the timing of the investments cycle and similarly we worked long and hard on putting writers in place to bring the revenue more concurrent, but on these large capital investments we continue to work due to rate process. And Indiana has been very positive because certainly the I&M team has been very successful in putting legislation in place that essentially allows that recovery more quickly for things like the nuclear Life Cycle Management. So I would not read that as we have a continued deterioration of ROEs. I would it as more where we are at in the investment cycle. Michael J. Lapides – Goldman Sachs & Co.: Got it. Okay. And just when you think about 2014 and 2015, what efforts, so kind of specific, whether it’s specific jurisdiction or specific state, do you anticipate trying to get done that makes a structural change to reduce lag?

Nicholas K. Akins

Management

Certainly, Kentucky. I mean getting the Mitchell assets reflected in Kentucky’s base rate is a big component of that. And that’s what a lot of the drag on Kentucky’s ROE is it – it’s equity component is increased so much and to transfer those Mitchell assets over there.

Brian X. Tierney

Management

And APCo and West Virginia, and certainly that ROE has been low for a long period of time and its while Virginia has stabilized in a very good place, West Virginia we still need to work that’s why we are making the filing this year. So those initiatives will be in place to do and then as far as SWEPCO is concerned. We continue to look for home relative to the investment the 88 megawatts of Turk station and Arkansas should be looking at that at some point hopefully, because they see the value of those assets. And then overall load growth and some reductions and some of the capacity that PPA contracts that flow to SWEPCO have ended. So there is an opportunity for the use of that additional capacity and energy with in the SWEPCO portfolio. So and there is issues in regard to that as well. So you could bet that any of these that appear low at this point there is a whole litany of actions being taken in the background to bring those backup to acceptable levels.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Michael Lapides, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Okay, thanks guys much appreciated.

Bette Jo Rozsa

Management

Thank you for joining us on today's call. And as always, the IR team will be available to answer any additional questions you may have. Kevin, can you give replay information please?

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