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Ashford Hospitality Trust, Inc. (AHT)

Q3 2013 Earnings Call· Fri, Oct 25, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Ashford Hospitality Trust Third Quarter 2013 Conference Call. At this time all participants are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation we’ll conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will be given at that time. (Operator Instructions) I would like to remind everyone that this conference calls is being recorded today, Friday October 25, 2013 at 11:00 AM Eastern Time. I will now turn the conference over to Mr. Scott Eckstein. Please go ahead, sir.

Scott Eckstein

Management

Good day, everyone, and welcome to Ashford Hospitality Trust conference call to review the company’s results for the third quarter of 2013 and to update you on our previously announced proposed new platform Ashford Hospitality Prime. On the call today will be Monty Bennett, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Douglas Kessler, President; David Kimichik, Chief Financial Officer and Jeremy Welter, Executive Vice President of Asset Management. The results as well as notice of the accessibility of this conference call on a listen-only basis over the Internet were distributed yesterday afternoon in a press release that has been covered by the financial media. At this time, let me remind you that certain statements and assumptions in this conference call contained are based upon forward-looking information and are being made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements are subject to numerous assumptions, uncertainties and known or unknown risks which could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated. These risk factors are more fully discussed in the section titled Risk Factors in Ashford’s registration statement on Form S-3 and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The forward-looking statements included in this conference call are only made as of the day of this call and the company is not obligated to publicly update or revise them. In addition, certain terms used in this call are non-GAAP financial measures, reconciliations of which are provided in the company’s earnings release, and accompanying tables or schedules which have been filed on Form 8-K with the SEC on October 24, 2013 and also be accessed through the company’s website at www.ahtreit.com. Each listener is encouraged to review those reconciliations provided in the earnings release together with all other information provided in the release. I will now turn the call over to Monty Bennett. Please go ahead, sir.

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Thank you and good morning. Since our IPO in 2003 Ashford has realized tremendous returns for shareholders generating a 150% total shareholder return over that period compared with an 88% total shareholder return for our peers. During the same time frame Ashford has consistently outperformed the peer average and total shareholder return for almost every yearly period. As of yesterday our one year and five year total return results were 61% and 913% respectively compared with an average of our peers of 35% and 205%. Although the return we provide to our shareholders is a function of our operational performance. We have always believed that it is also doing those small parts to the strong alignment we have with our shareholders’ interest. One of our clear differentiators related to our peers has always been our high level of insider ownership. Our insider ownership is nearly 19% compared with the peer average of only 3%. Nowhere the management team in our sector can point to this high level of insider ownership and this strong alignment is a key catalyst to management’s efforts to generate superior shareholder returns. For those of you that are not familiar with the details of Ashford Prime earlier this year our Board of Directors approved a plan to spin-off an 80% interest in eight-hotel high RevPAR portfolio totaling 2,912 own rooms that will be called Ashford Hospitality Prime. The spin-off will be in the form of the taxable special dividend to holders of Ashford Trust common stock it is expected to be comprised of common stock and Ashford Hospitality Prime Inc. a newly formed company to which Ashford Trust plans to transfer the portfolio interest. Ashford Prime will be a platform that exclusively focuses on higher-end hotels. Presently, we are in the standard review and commentary period…

David Kimichik

Chief Financial Officer

Thanks Monty. For the third quarter of 2013 we reported AFFO per diluted share of $0.25 compared with $0.31 a year ago. Third quarter of 2012 included $8.1 million of interest rate derivative income which impacted AFFO per share by $0.09 so on adjusted basis our AFFO per share is up $0.03. Adjusted EBITDA increased 7% for the third quarter. During the third quarter we saw a steady continuing positive industry supply and demand trends which have continued to drive RevPAR growth and improve profitability in the U.S. lodging sector. Based on where we see ourselves today in the current hotel cycle we expect to see several additional years of growth as demand suddenly rises, our new hotel room supply is expected to remain at historically low levels for at least the near term. Since existing credit availability for new hotel construction remains limited PKF continues to forecast low supply growth of 48%, 1.1% and 1.4% for 2013, 2014 and 2015 respectively. PKF also continues to forecast attractive RevPAR growth of 5.9% for 2013, 7.2% for 2014 and 8.1% for 2015. It is important to note that the industry’s recovery to-date has occurred in a weak economic environment. So any significant improvement in the macro economic situation could represent potential upside to these forecasts. For the third quarter we’ve reported our pro-forma hotel operating statistics for both the Ashford Trust portfolio and the Ashford Prime portfolio. The Ashford Trust portfolio includes our pro-rata share Highland Hospitality portfolio but excludes the Ashford Prime hotels. In terms of our performance RevPAR increased 3.1% for the Ashford Trust hotel not under renovation driven by a 3.0% increase in ADR. RevPAR increased 4.6% for the Ashford Prime hotels not under renovation driven by 2.6% increase in ADR. Hotel EBITDA margin increased 39 basis points…

Jeremy Welter

Management

Thank you, Kimo. RevPAR at the eight properties in our Ashford Prime portfolio increased 4.3% in the third quarter, driven primarily by rate which increased 3.3%. The four properties located on the West Coast all experienced RevPAR growth exceeding 8% led by Courtyard Seattle which was up 17.3%. This brings a year-to-date RevPAR gain for Ashford Prime’s properties to 5.9%, again largely driven by rate increase of 4.5%. Moving to our Ashford Trust portfolio RevPAR increased 1.5% driven by rate which increased 2.7%. Year-to-date RevPAR has increased 3.1% with ADR increasing 3.4%. The third quarter proved to be a challenging quarter in terms of comparability to last year for several reasons. First, the republic and democratic national conventions that occurred in Tampa and Charlotte greatly benefited our hotels in those markets in the third quarter of 2012. For example, the Tampa Renaissance in our Ashford Prime portfolio had a RevPAR decline of 10.2% for the quarter. Another challenging aspect of the third quarter was the year-over-year comparison in Washington D.C., our largest market in terms of rooms and EBITDA. You may recall that the third quarter was the best quarter of 2012 for our DC assets, thanks to strong summer leisure travel and resilient group business. In the third quarter of 2013, the ongoing sequestration of government spending, fiscal uncertainty and a less robust book of group business led RevPAR declining 12% for all of our hotels in the Washington DC market area. During the quarter government room nights at our 11 DC hotels were down 29% representing about 2.3 million in lower room revenue. Additionally, during the quarter our 697 room Crystal City Marriott Gateway and its ballroom under renovation which greatly impacted our ability to book group business. But we believe these market dynamics are relatively short-term. In…

Doug Kessler

Management

Thanks, Jeremy. In the third quarter we remained focused on strengthening our capital structure, prepare for the plan spin-off of Ashford Prime and to better position ourselves for investment opportunities by capitalizing on today’s attractive debt market conditions. Looking at our capital structure, in September we completed a $69 million property level debt financing for the previously closed acquisition of 142 room Pier House Resort and Spa in Key West, Florida, which we acquired in May for $90 million in cash or $634,000 for Key. As Monty already mentioned, this investment has not only met but exceeded our initial performance expectations with RevPAR growth of 13% for the quarter and hotel EBITDA margin up 960 basis points. The new financing for Pier House of the two year term and three one year extension options with no test requirements for the first two extensions. The loan provides for floating interest rate of LIBOR plus 490 basis points with no LIBOR Floor. We are very pleased with the success of this new property level debt financing, which demonstrates the various opportunities we are seeing currently in the debt markets. While there has been a recent uptick in the interest rates, these rates and other market conditions still remain very appealing relative to historical debt financing currently in place for several of our assets. This affords us many opportunities to selectively pursue refinancing opportunities within our portfolio to capitalize on these market trends. We are constantly analyzing our debt structure at the property level and we continue to look for innovative ways to maximize value for our shareholders. Presently we are exploring the potential refinancing of our MIP portfolio which matures in 2015 and consist of five hotels. The Embassy Suites, Philadelphia Airport, the Embassy Suites Walnut Creek, the Hilton Minneapolis Airport, the…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your first question comes from the line of Andrew Didora from Bank of America. Please go ahead. Andrew Didora – Bank of America Merrill Lynch: Hi, good morning everyone. Monty I know you guys typically don’t give sort of an intra-quarter update, but just curious just in terms of kind of impact that DC had on 3Q if you could maybe give us any color during the government shutdown in terms of the impact that it had on your -- that it’s having on your portfolio in October?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

The shutdown has an impact on our portfolio in the DC area for the quarter, but as far as specifics, we do like to kind of trend away from providing guidance for the reasons that we’ve discussed in the past. We are hopeful though that these shenanigans in DC will come to an end, but the sequestration end with the shutdown and remain hopeful that’s the case, and we are bullish on the long-term prospects of DC. It’s not uncommon during deleveraging like this where by government expense just gets cut back for a little bit for a little while, but over the long-term, DC will continue to be a great market, and we’ve got some great assets there. So, we are just going to have to weather this short-term little storm that’s going on over there. Andrew Didora – Bank of America Merrill Lynch: Got it. Fair enough. And just in terms of the Prime portfolio, how should we think about the margins here going forward just in light of the incentive fee payments in the quarter. Do you just really kick in 3Q or have you been been paying these for a while, just trying to get a sense for when you might anniversary some of these payments?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Yes, the payments have been going on, and they have been increasing as the performance has been increasing, and I think what we’d like to do Andrew is probably offline for you and anybody else that is interested is go through those incentive fee amounts for these different properties, so you can get a handle. Some of the incentive fee amounts are as low as 20% of EBITDA above a certain level, and in some case it’s as high as 50%. So I think for your modeling purposes, it will be helpful if we went through those on a more detailed basis, and some of those, we’re in the money or I should say the managers in the money (inaudible) those fees, and in some cases, pretty good ways from earning them. So, like I said, we just need to probably go through that individually with you so that you can construct your models a little more accurately. Andrew Didora – Bank of America Merrill Lynch: Got it. Okay and that sounds good. And then just finally speaking with Prime here, I am sorry if I missed this in your prepared remarks, but when do you think you could exercise those options, particularly on the Pier House, do you see this as something that could happen on day one or is there a reason why you might wait to execute on those?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

We’ve got options on two properties, the Pier House I think that option goes for something like 18 months, and then Gateway is something like a year, but we can’t do it until starting six months after the spin-off occurs. We’re anxious to grow the platform, and we would like to do it relatively soon, but it depends upon market conditions. Ideally, we would like to raise some capital around it in order to continue to move our debt-to-EBITDA ratio down that is something that our investors want -- that’s what we want, and so that depends upon market conditions on availability of capital. And so, we’d like to do it sooner rather than later, but it just depends upon whether we think we can do the whole package or not and how much we could potentially raise around it. So, we’ve got some time, so if market conditions don’t co-operate, we can wade it out, but if they do, again our preference will be to move sooner rather than later. Andrew Didora – Bank of America Merrill Lynch: Okay. That’s great. That’s it from me. Appreciate it.

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Ryan Meliker from MLV Company. Please go ahead. Ryan Meliker – MLV & Co: Hey good morning guys. Just a couple of quick questions. I was hoping you might be able to give us some color on; first how close are you guys to determining of timing for the spin-off? Is it -- are we talking imminent within a week or two away or are we talking towards the end of fourth quarter?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Well, there are some mechanics involved in the script that went through about a 10-day period for a record date and a 10-day period for the distribution. So as soon as we get the SEC clearance, we’ve got those timelines in front of us. We are hopeful that we’ll get that SEC clearance quite soon. They’ve given us indications that we should get it soon, but it is the SEC and they can take a lot longer if they want. So, it’s hard for us, and before this call we talked about giving guidance on it. But the problem is that it’s just not in our control, it’s all with the SEC right now like I said. They have indicated that it should be very soon that they will give us clearance within days but if that doesn’t then they might take weeks. So as soon as we know we are going to be moving forward with establishing the record date and then the distribution date. So, that’s the best we can give because that’s the best we know. Ryan Meliker – MLV & Co: No, it’s helpful. I mean it sounds like you are optimistic that it’s not going to be towards the end of December and hopefully sooner than that, and given that dynamic and the impact of the spin-off is going to have on your financials in the quarter and the uncertainty surrounding the exact timing and the seasonality October versus November versus December track versus what you provide to the street, are you going to be able to or have you thought about the idea of giving guidance out for what AHT and AHP will do in that first quarter given it’s going to be a weird choppy type quarter with the spin-off involved or are you going to be optimistic Street is going to get it close enough to right, so there won’t be any surprises?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Well we’ve kicked that around a little bit because there is another issue and that is the fact that Marriott has changed their accounting from ‘13 period to ’12, and that also affects the numbers, and then you’ve got the split up of the platform (inaudible) through the quarter. So we’ve been sitting here internally talking about what that means. We haven’t decided to give guidance but we also know that’s an issue. So we don’t have any answer pretty right now on that Ryan, but we do understand the issue and we’re trying to figure out the best way to tackle it. Ryan Meliker – MLV & Co: Yeah just a shame to surprise the Street with the number that could have been avoided especially if the fundamentals end up coming in line with expectations. And then last question I had was can you give us any color, I apologize if I’ve missed it earlier in the call, but with regards to what you’re expecting for your corporate negotiations for next year, how those are tracking, and then what your group base looks like next year? I know Group isn’t a big component of your business, that’s always helpful to get that gauge?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

We don’t give out on the Group side, that’s I guess a little too much in guidance for us. But as far as the rate negotiations, we’re being aggressive; our attempts in these negotiations I don’t think are different than our peers in the 4% to 7% range is what we’re targeting for those preferred accounts, (inaudible) negotiated accounts across the board and some of those are being locked down and some of them are still open., So again we’re not doing anything different I think than what our peers are in that regard. Ryan Meliker – MLV & Co: That’s helpful and then Doug real quickly. You talked about going to market looking at the MIP portfolio when a couple of other assets, are you guys at the stage where you’re looking at the high end debt potentially refinancing that I know that’s available for – in March.

Doug Kessler

Management

We have term remaining on the high end debt and our view there is that we wanted to be opportunistic with respect to the performance of the portfolio as well as what’s taking place in the debt capital market. So we have a fair amount of run way. Moreover I think the view that we have is that something that will certainly start discussing more about internally at the beginning of next year but it’s a little bit earlier right just start approaching that. Monty Bennett: Ryan to give you some color on that the frozen corns are that the sooner we do it the sooner we get out of a cash we doesn’t place on that debt. But the later we do it there more proceeds we get. And I want to emphasis that we have a partner in that and the decision to refinance is going to be made with our partner credential. I would be surprised that happen before March and as far as after that I’d say soon this case to be sometime in 2014 later in the year but again it depends upon some other issues that are going on in our platform and our cash and alike because the longer we wait the more proceeds that we can achieve. And we are giving serious considerations for those additional proceeds to setting those proceeds aside as essentially an offset against whatever debt level we have to keep our net debt levels constant or lower. So there is just a lot of consideration so it’s just hard for us to give any indication on to refine that. Ryan Meliker – MLV & Co: Okay. But it sounds like it’s not going to be by March it will be later in 2014 if it earlier can you talk….

Monty Bennett

Chairman

I would say that’s right that’s our current thinking. Ryan Meliker – MLV & Co: Great, that’s all I had. Thanks a lot.

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Thanks Ryan.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Nikhil Bhalla from FBR. Please go ahead. Nikhil Bhalla – FBR: Hi, good morning everyone. Just a question on your strategy for AHP when it comes to buying assets outside of the U.S. I think you mentioned a lot about international expansion there kind of referred to it, could you just give us some sense of how big you think that could be how soon that could be or are you looking for sort of portfolios, are you looking for single assets, just any color?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Sure. We’re looking for both, for single assets and portfolios. We have some tension there in that we don’t want to do anything too big because then it’s proportionately large for the platform that platform is being launched at about $1 billion in size plus or minus. And on the other hand you wanted to have certain size because to have assets overseas there is additional overhead and costs relative to servicing it and being involved with it. So that’s kind of an offset, also as we look around the world all the countries are in different stages of development and different stages of where they’re and they’re deleveraging in different stages of recession. So we’re just trying to remain thorough. We spent a couple of years now being involved in the European markets attending conferences over there, have people on ground over there looking for opportunities, And here in the more recent past we’ve really started looking in Asia as well for opportunities a number of us got back from the conference over there. So we’re trying to be very, very thorough in measuring twice and cutting ones on these acquisitions. And as far as the opportunities that come up it’s just hard to say. We get out something like the peer house jump up that’s right here close to home which has been a great acquisition for us or an opportunities could jump up overseas somewhere. And either to say our first acquisition overseas especially we wanted to be especially cautious both for our own sake and respect for investors and not jumping out there with some large international acquisitions that are relatively large for our platform. Hopefully that provides a little color for you. Nikhil Bhalla – FBR: Sure, thanks Monty for that. And just a follow up question on the revenue side I think you referenced some revenue initiatives that you’re taking and Remington is taking briefing up the revenue management team. Could you just give us some sense of where the opportunity might be to increase the revenues there I mean what could specifically happen?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Sure. First of all it’s not like the revenues taking in context this quarter, they were okay if you could turn your eye to what’s going on with BC and then this year-over-year problems in these Charlotte and these other markets. So we’re pretty pleased with that revenue performance aside from those sectors. So that being said we think there is always room for improvement and so we want to be very intensive about our efforts there as far as the areas of improvement. I couldn’t give you one specific area looking at across the landscape we think that there is opportunities really just about everywhere with be contract in wholesale of IT business, preferred account business, group business all that’s on the direct sale side or overall on the electronic commerce and the revenue management side of all the different booking channels over there and yield management, revenue management. We’re seeing, that whole industry is seeing a move more and more away from direct sales towards electronic commerce and there has been a trend that’s going on for 10, 15 years and continues to move that way. And because of that we just wanted to double down on our electronic commerce and our revenue management capabilities the personnel number in order to make sure that we’re always ahead on that front. But at the same time not to peddle over on the direct sales approach and we brought in some new people recently great people and created a few new positions. We just want to continue to be a leader when it comes to revenue. You see the great numbers that we turned in on the Pier Houser Resort and it’s delivering these types of numbers which gives investors great confidence and in Ashford and what leads to our performance and so what’s just vital to us to continue to be on the cutting edge. Nikhil Bhalla – FBR: Thanks, Monty.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Robin Farley from UBS. Please go ahead. Robin Farley – UBS: Two questions one is I know you talked a little bit about DC in Q4 you didn’t want to really be giving guidance. So without quantifying it can you just sort of talk a lit bit qualitatively about since the end of the shutdown whether you’ve seen occupancy in business levels kind of fully return to normal right away or do you think there is still some lingering impact or some cancel travel that didn’t like in other words how quickly has it snapped back without even quantifying if you don’t want just qualitatively can you give some color?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Well, it’s hard to say what’s normal in DC these days right, because pre-sequestration post sequestration itself was compressed over small number of months that’s to be changing so there is a number of moving parts. We also have as you know the headwind of this new Marriott opening up in the spring there as we speak. But Jeremy is there anything you can answer there for Robin without providing guidance?

Jeremy Welter

Management

Yes, what I would say is the new baseline was set in May of this year over the last five months with the – government – it was fairly conception month-to-months in our portfolio and it was around 30%. There was probably a little bit more in September in anticipation of the government shut down but heading into this new fiscal year in October the sequestration cuts are not as savior on a month to month basis. So, sequestration should have lesser impact in the fourth quarter to the industry as well as the first quarter of the next year and then when you cross over to the second quarter of 2014 on a year-over-year basis you are kind of compared to apples-to-apples where sequestration is – with the numbers.

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Now really just talking about sequestration and not about the shutdown.

Jeremy Welter

Management

That’s correct.

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Yeah, and then of course you got inauguration in January that some of that hotels in DC did benefit from in 2013 as well as the whatever may or may not happen with the new government budget in January whether the extent of the deadline. Robin Farley – UBS: Okay. And sort of any thoughts on through the last week to 10 days whether to the degree that there had been some disruption specific to the shutdown whether you feel that to come back?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

We just rather not give that level of detail of guidance at this point Robin. Robin Farley – UBS: Okay, sure. And then just the other question is you talked a little bit about corporate – rates and what you are targeting for next year, roughly where do you feel that they ended up coming in for 2013 kind of what level of increase?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

For this past year? Robin Farley – UBS: Yeah.

Monty Bennett

Chairman

May for next year? Robin Farley – UBS: No, no in other words I know right now I mean November is the time when your nailing down 2014 rate until you have certain target I am curious where you feel the average came in for 2013?

David Kimichik

Chief Financial Officer

It’s now 45% on average. Robin Farley – UBS: Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Patrick Scholes with SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please go ahead. Patrick Scholes – SunTrust Robinson Humphrey: Hi, good morning. Mont you said high level of question for your as it relates to your how do you feel going into 2014? Would you say you feel since the last – on earnings backed in August do you say you feel more optimistic in that time the same or maybe not quite as optimistic just directionally?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

I feel optimistic about 2014 with the carious of government business and what’s going on in DC that’s just a bigger note. But absence that absolutely quite optimistic for 2014. Patrick Scholes – SunTrust Robinson Humphrey: Would you say you feel more optimistic today than we did a couple of months ago with the exception of the government?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

I would say about the same. Patrick Scholes – SunTrust Robinson Humphrey: Okay. And then more specific questions just on the quarterly result I didn’t apologize that they didn’t us in the report. What was the RevPAR growth for the Ashford legacy portfolio and Highland portfolio and that’s the first part. And then what was the margin improvement if there was improvement for the Highland portfolio?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

You didn’t find it in the numbers because we have changed our reporting this time Patrick we started reporting on Ashford Price just quarterly and I just made the call that reporting on Ashford Prime versus Ashford Trust and then within Ashford Trust of legacy versus Highland and then Highland being a 71% interest all that was just too complicated. So we just consolidated Trust reporting and versus Prime’s reporting meaning that for Trust. It’s not broken out anymore between legacy and the Highland portfolio. Patrick Scholes – SunTrust Robinson Humphrey: But can you I guess provide that at this moment, what was it?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

I don’t know one of these here on the phone may be these guys call afterwards. to be able to give…. Patrick Scholes – SunTrust Robinson Humphrey: Okay, no problem. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Whitney Stevenson with JMP Securities. Please go ahead. Whitney Stevenson – JMP Securities: Hi there guys, thanks for taking my question. It’s perfectly possible that I have completely missed that somewhere but have you said that peer group that Prime would be benchmarked again?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Yes, it’s in our filing. Whitney Stevenson – JMP Securities: Okay, perfect. That was my only question, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Thomas Allen with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Thomas Allen – Morgan Stanley: Hi, good morning. Renovation is appeared that you may have been more of a headwind this quarter than quarters past, can you help us think about the impact and then what should we expect as we go into the end of the year next year I know you give this chart at the back of your release but unfortunately I can’t really read it. And then if there could be any color I think most of the renovation disruption over the past few quarters has been at – and JV is that still the case? Thanks.

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Regarding your comment about not being able to read it in the back is that because you can’t see the… Thomas Allen – Morgan Stanley: Meaning more I am sure if I was a better analyst I could say that I can add up the number of rooms that are renovated and maybe say that 4Q would be more of an impact in renovation in 3Q but maybe I am not.

Monty Bennett

Chairman

I think it’s not helpful as it could be I guess. Okay, no problem. Let’s go to information personnel because we might change reporting so it can be more helpful. Jeremy you want to answer this question?

Jeremy Welter

Management

Yeah, we are going to have a little bit more rooms under renovation in the fourth quarter in 2013 and then if you look at our proposed 2014 we are very similar in the first quarter and total room to be out with a little bit more in the second quarter. That’s 2014. Thomas Allen – Morgan Stanley: Okay, that’s helpful. And then was it more, is it still mostly the Highland JV the headwind or is that…?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Yeah we’ve got a lot of it is Highland and once you get through the second quarter of next year the Highland portfolio is going to be in great shape from the capital standpoint. We are very excited about it. Thomas Allen – Morgan Stanley: Okay, that’s helpful. Thank you. And then just in terms of the national market, I know you are renovating the – but you are seeing the recent opening of the – I think at the end of the September, is that had an impact on your forward bookings or any impact on trends in business so far? Thanks.

Jeremy Welter

Management

Yeah, I can’t comment on because of guidance but what I can say is that if you look at the tap report for Nashville in 2014 and 2015 it is one of the strongest markets that we have hotels in. So we are going through the renovations as fast as we can just because we want to benefit from all of that businesses which is going to come in 2014 it’s a huge lift. So even though there has been a lot of new supply that convention center has been fantastic in forward-looking bookings for the city as a whole.

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Typically we find that when a new convection center opens even though there is a lot of supply coming in the first year to you get a good lift it’s after that you’ve got a shut down and worried about whether the supply and demand dynamics are good for the long-term. Thomas Allen – Morgan Stanley: Okay, helpful, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Jordan Sadler with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Austin Wurschmidt – KeyBanc Capital Markets: Hey guys it’s Austin Wurschmidt with Jordan. I just had a question related to DC. I was just curious if there was any disparity in the performance along your suburban and more centrally or urban hotels across the metro?

Jeremy Welter

Management

Yeah sure I can take that, this is Jeremy. The district did perform better than our Crystal City and non-Crystal City DC assets. Capital held in was impacted on a year-over-year basis because had incredible group business in the third quarter of 2012. And Crystal City Marriott Gateway did have a smaller amount of renovation as well and so that kind of disproportionally hit it. But when business is soft in the DC market and there is not a lot of compression within the DC market then those hotels outside of DC do tend to perform a little bit worse on a year-over-year basis and that certainly played out in the third quarter of this year. Austin Wurschmidt – KeyBanc Capital Markets: Have you guys considered lining up your suburban exposure in the DC metro given it is your largest market, so just curious your thoughts on that.

Jeremy Welter

Management

We have and we have talked about it the only problem is just worst time to do it. So if we did it with way towards a more favorable climate in order to do that. Austin Wurschmidt – KeyBanc Capital Markets: Thanks, that’s helpful. And then based on the information that you guys had given on AHP Q&A presentation which was very helpful by the way. It seems that AHP plans exercise its auction to acquire the Crystal Gateway Marriott. And if so what would Prime’s exposure to DC be pro-forma of that transaction because I think it’s already around 20% with the capital of Hilton?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Well, the decision to exercise adoption will be a discussion of the Board when time come and that exposure to the DC market will be one of the big points for the Board to consider. And in that case it also depends upon valuation because that price has not been predetermined so it is a concern it is an issue and it will be looked at very closely. So don’t consider that it will automatically be brought over. Prime need to look at it and see if it’s in the best interest of Prime to do so or not. Austin Wurschmidt – KeyBanc Capital Markets: That’s fair. Is there any debt associated with that property?

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Yes there has been associated with that property. If you are looking at the amounts here you are looking at up for you.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I’ll turn it over to management for closing remarks.

Monty Bennett

Chairman

Just to finalize, just to answer that question about the debt amount do we have it here 102 million is the amount that’s on that property. That is all of our comments. We look forward to talking to everyone on our next call. In the mean time we hope to have the successful launch of Ashford Hospitality product. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen that does conclude the conference call for today. Thanks for participating. You may now disconnect your lines.