Operator
Operator
Welcome to Assurant's Third Quarter 2024 Conference Call and Webcast. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Sean Moshier, Vice President of Investor Relations. You may begin.
Assurant, Inc. (AIZ)
Q3 2024 Earnings Call· Wed, Nov 6, 2024
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Operator
Operator
Welcome to Assurant's Third Quarter 2024 Conference Call and Webcast. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Sean Moshier, Vice President of Investor Relations. You may begin.
Sean Moshier
Analyst
Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. We look-forward to discussing our third quarter 2024 results with you today. Joining me for Assurant's conference call are Keith Demmings, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Keith Meier, our Chief Financial Officer. Yesterday, after the market closed, we issued a news release, announcing our results for the third quarter 2024. The release and corresponding financial supplement are available on assurant.com. Also, on our website is a slide presentation for our webcast participants. Some of the statements made today are forward-looking. Forward-looking statements are based upon our historical performance and current expectations and subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated by those statements. Additional information regarding these factors can be found in the earnings release, presentation, and financial supplement on our website, as well as in our SEC reports. During today's call, we will refer to non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe are important in evaluating the company's performance. For more details on these measures, the most comparable GAAP measures and a reconciliation of the two, please refer to the news release and supporting materials. We'll start today's call with remarks before moving into Q&A. I will now turn the call over to Keith Demmings.
Keith Demmings
Analyst · UBS
Thanks, Sean, and good morning, everyone. Our third quarter results further supported our strong year-to-date performance. Through the first nine months of the year, adjusted EBITDA increased by 15% and adjusted EPS grew by 21%, both excluding catastrophes. Results were led by sustained outperformance within Global Housing, as well as underlying growth within our Connected Living business, which was muted by incremental investments in new partnerships and programs and unfavorable foreign-exchange. Our year-to-date momentum has positioned us to exceed our previous expectations. Excluding catastrophes, we now expect adjusted EBITDA to increase low-double-digits for the second consecutive year and adjusted earnings per share to increase mid to high teens, led by business growth and strong share repurchases. Once again, we've outperformed the broader P&C industry, both short and long-term, reflecting the unique and differentiated nature of our combined housing and lifestyle business model. Let's begin with our year-to-date business highlights. In Global Lifestyle, year-to-date performance was relatively flat versus the prior-period, reflecting elevated claims experience in global automotive as well as impacts from unfavorable foreign exchange of 2% or $10 million, above our expectations from earlier in the year. Within Connected Living, year-to-date adjusted EBITDA increased 3% or 5% on a constant-currency basis as we continue to invest in new partnerships and programs to support future growth. Excluding investments of approximately $21 million for the first-nine months of the year, Connected Living adjusted EBITDA growth was strong at 11% on a constant-currency basis. One prime example of those investments includes our new innovation and device care center located just outside of Nashville, supporting our mobile business. In addition to repurposing millions of devices per year, the new state of the art facility employs innovative ways to leverage automation, robotics and AI. This will create greater value within our global supply-chain while…
Keith Meier
Analyst · UBS
Thanks, Keith, and good morning, everyone. This November marks the conclusion of my first year as CFO of Assurant. When I began this role, I outlined my key priorities, including driving growth and strong financial performance with a focus on innovation and product differentiation. These priorities have been supported by our continuous efforts to drive expense efficiencies through automation, digital and AI technologies, while improving overall customer experience as well as ensuring our capital position remains strong, providing us with the flexibility to create value and support long-term growth. Over the past year, we have made significant progress. First, looking at growth and financial performance, our B2B2C partnerships are the lifeblood of our business model and the primary driver behind our growth story. Over the past 12 months, we've spotlighted several notable client announcements, such as renewing all major U.S. mobile clients, including three of the top-five largest mobile carriers in the U.S., launching new programs and capabilities with existing clients like Spectrum Mobile and winning new partnerships with Chase, Telstra in Australia and another leading U.S. bank within our lender-placed business. Second, we have focused on expense discipline as we've continued to drive efficiencies across the organization by utilizing automation, digital and AI technologies. This has enabled us to deliver a better customer experience and invest in new capabilities while driving profitable growth. As an example, we believe our new device care center in Nashville, combined with the numerous investments we've made across the end-to-end mobile device lifecycle, will continue to support new growth opportunities in Global Lifestyle. In Global Housing, the scale we've achieved through growth and ongoing investing in our technology and compliance solutions have resulted in meaningful operational efficiencies and expense leverage as seen in the compelling expense ratios we've achieved. Global Housing's expense ratio is…
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Thank you. Our first question will come from Brian Meredith with UBS.
Brian Meredith
Analyst · UBS
Yes, thank you.
Keith Demmings
Analyst · UBS
Good morning. Brian.
Keith Meier
Analyst · UBS
Good morning.
Brian Meredith
Analyst · UBS
A couple -- good morning. A couple of questions here for you. First one, perhaps on Global Housing, all the catastrophe losses that we've been seeing, how are you thinking about pricing for that business when you head into 2025. And I'm assuming your cat reinsurance program since it doesn't appear you're going to have any kind of retention get into the program should be beneficial, should be good in 2025? So maybe you can give us a little color on that?
Keith Demmings
Analyst · UBS
Yes. Maybe I'll start and then Keith Meier can chip in. But obviously, we feel really good about the reinsurance program that we have in place. And you're right, as we look at the effect of Milton and the other storms we've had through the year, it's been an active season, but we've not touched the reinsurance tower to this point. So I think that sets us up well in terms of favorability with our reinsurance partners. We've talked about having a panel of 40 reinsurers that have been very stable over-time. So I think we feel good heading into next year as we think about reinsurance costs. And then as we think about the rate process, obviously, we'll look at all of our losses over the course of the year, cat and non-cat, expense levels, reinsurance costs. So we look at the pricing heading into next year being relatively stable to what we've seen this year. So don't think that there'll be a big shift in premium as we head into '25.
Keith Meier
Analyst · UBS
Yes. And I think we're certainly continuing to evaluate our program structure for our reinsurance cat tower. We'll share more of the details of that in February with our 2025 outlook. But in general, we expect to continue to approach our one in five probable maximum loss point for retention, which is $150 million this year. And we -- the good news is we haven't touched that tower this year. So, we certainly think with it not hitting the tower that that should be a positive as we look-forward to rates in 2025. And just as a reminder, we've moved to an effective date of April 1 for our one-time placement for our reinsurance programs as well.
Brian Meredith
Analyst · UBS
Got you. That makes sense. And then, Keith and Keith, I was wondering if you could give me -- give us maybe a little bit of a preview of what you're thinking about for 2025 and Global Lifestyles. You've got a bunch of these new programs hitting and I'm assuming they'll have a nice tailwind from a growth and margin perspective as we look at 2025. Maybe a little big picture what we may be able to expect.
Keith Demmings
Analyst · UBS
Sure. Yes, I'll give you a few highlights as we think about '25. Obviously, we need to close out Q4 and see where the underlying performance comes in, look at the trends et-cetera and then what we will obviously provide detailed guidance in February. But stepping back at the high-level, certainly we expect to accelerate Global Lifestyle growth in '25. I would say growth will certainly come in Connected Living. We've made a lot of investments in '24. Those investments won't continue in '25 and obviously we'll start to generate revenue and EBITDA from those client launches and the efficiency that we're driving. And then we've got good underlying strong momentum in the business overall. And then as I think about Auto, we definitely expect growth in Auto in '25 as well. We expect the business will benefit from higher earnings from the rate increases that we've implemented over the last couple of years and then stabilizing inflation levels. One thing I would mention, we do expect some additional incremental investments in '25. There are a number of things that we're actively working on similar to '24, net-new clients, net-new program launches, things that have not yet been disclosed to the market. So we'll preview that as well in '25. So think about the '24 investments really sunsetting the revenue and EBITDA flowing through. And then hopefully, if we have continued great momentum with clients, we'll have some other big exciting things that we'll be bringing to market in '25 as well. And then maybe I'll just touch on housing since we'll close out the '25 thoughts. I mean, it's been an incredible 2024, really the last couple of years in housing. As we think about '25, probably the simplest way to say it is net of the prior year development that we've seen, we do expect solid underlying growth in-housing in '25. And I'd say driven from the growth we've seen in terms of our policy counts, continued increases in average insured values and then momentum around expense leverage in the business. So more to come in February, but those are a few of the high-level thoughts.
Brian Meredith
Analyst · UBS
Okay, thank you.
Keith Demmings
Analyst · UBS
You bet. Thank you.
Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from Mark Hughes with Truist.
Keith Demmings
Analyst · Truist
Hi, Mark. Good morning.
Mark Hughes
Analyst · Truist
Yes, thank you very much. Good morning. The voluntary business that you're picking-up, can you talk about that is the momentum still building in voluntary, the markets that you're seeing success are still dislocated, how do you see that trend?
Keith Demmings
Analyst · Truist
Yes, I think when we look at - yes, and really we're highlighting the impact around the placement rate. So we look at the placement rate is up 6 basis-points sequentially, it's up 18 basis-points year-over-year. So we've seen a lot of momentum with respect to that. And I would say it's probably equal parts growth in the underlying business. We obviously onboarded a major new client earlier this year. We've seen growth within our existing client bases of acquired loans, acquired portfolios. And then the other half of that growth is a result of additional policies being placed because homeowners are being more challenged to find traditional voluntary coverage. So we've talked about that hard market factor being part of the drivers for the placement rate growth, less so challenges more broadly in the economy, challenges in terms of delinquency and those types of things, those are really not factoring in at least at this point. So that's what we've tried to highlight is it's a function of the hard market that we're seeing around the country.
Mark Hughes
Analyst · Truist
In the device counts, you had a nice acceleration this quarter. I think you talked about the new Asia-Pacific clients. Did they come over kind of in math or will this growth continue?
Keith Demmings
Analyst · Truist
The step-change we saw earlier in the year, at this point in Q3, this is a more natural evolution. So we've seen continued steady growth both in our domestic business. We rolled-out some new products earlier this year with one of our major cable partners, that's generated a significant momentum. And then, of course, building as well in Asia-Pacific. But that was more of a natural evolution from the finish point at Q2 and those blocks had already sort of step changed earlier in the year.
Mark Hughes
Analyst · Truist
Yes. And then on the GAAP, higher-than-expected, the GAAP losses. When does that run-through? When do you either reinsure that away or get enough price to offset the claims experience?
Keith Meier
Analyst · Truist
Yes. So we mentioned before that the impact from GAAP is shorter-term in nature versus the vehicle service contracts. Those claims are usually heavier in the first 24 months or so. And we've been partnering with our clients to eliminate or reduce the risk on those businesses. And just as an example, from a written premium perspective, in 2022, 40% of the business, we had some risk participation. And then in 2024, it's down to just 12%. So overall, as we look into 2025, with all the actions that we've taken across our vehicle service contracts and GAAP, we expect Auto to improve as we as we move forward. And I think overall, I think we get a sense that the pressure is declining, certainly for Auto.
Keith Demmings
Analyst · Truist
Yes. And maybe I'll just amplify. I think we talked about starting this process of looking at reshaping the risk that we hold relative to GAAP going back two years ago. So we started this process early. And as Keith highlighted, a pretty big reduction in the amount of risk that we're writing today. So really it's just a question of running off the unearned part of the business. But as Keith said, it's much shorter-term in nature. So it shouldn't be a headwind as we think about '25.
Mark Hughes
Analyst · Truist
Thank you.
Keith Demmings
Analyst · Truist
Thank you.
Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from Tommy McJoynt with KBW.
Keith Demmings
Analyst · KBW
Hi, Tommy.
Keith Meier
Analyst · KBW
Hello.
Tommy McJoynt
Analyst · KBW
Hi, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. When we think about the subscribers that you guys are adding, I think largely calling out the cable operators in the Asia-Pacific region, is the sort of monetization opportunity of those customers any different than the traditional sort of carrier customer that represented your in force for a long-time?
Keith Demmings
Analyst · KBW
No, I think it's pretty well-aligned. I mean, obviously, every deal with clients work differently. But no, I'd say it's very much aligned with the standard operating model. Obviously, we're pleased to see the subscriber growth pretty material year-over-year and then continuing to build certainly in the quarter. But no, I wouldn't say it's dramatically different than sort of the average of the total, Tommy.
Tommy McJoynt
Analyst · KBW
Okay, got it. And then to clarify your comments around the investment spend in Connected Living, I think you called out $21 million of spend year-to-date. And it sounds like that investment spend is sunsetting this year, but then it's going to be replaced by sort of additional or new investment spend next year for new programs. Can you just clarify the comments around that?
Keith Demmings
Analyst · KBW
Yes, that's exactly right. So we've got, to your point, $21 million year-to-date. We had about $8 million that we called out in the third quarter. We'll see a little bit more in the fourth quarter, probably moderating a little bit from kind of where we sit today. As I think about '24, two-thirds of that investment spend I'm simplifying is related to new client launches. Think about the launches with Telstra, Spectrum, Chase, some other things that we probably haven't highlighted. And then a third of it is the work that we've done to really automate and invest in our new device care center. So all of those programs are sort of delivered this year. Those don't recur and then we get all the benefit in terms of revenue, EBITDA and efficiency. And then to your point, we will have additional new investments, which I think is a really good thing, right. If we're making -- and we're only calling out investments that are meaningful and that are designed to launch net-new things in the marketplace that have strong payback and that are going to generate EBITDA and revenue once they launch. So we'll size that again in February, Tommy, to give everyone a sense of how we think about that, but there's a lot of things in our pipeline. Our commercial momentum, particularly in Connected Living is incredibly strong. So, this would be a really good thing if we've got another bucket of investment similar to what we did this year.
Tommy McJoynt
Analyst · KBW
Thanks. And then just lastly in Connected Living, the fourth quarter guide seems to imply some pretty good strength there. What's sort of contemplated around trade-in volumes and perhaps the sensitivity around this iPhone upgrade cycle? Should we think of this as an unusually strong fourth quarter or is this some -- is this something I can repeat in kind of future years?
Keith Demmings
Analyst · KBW
Yes, I'd probably say that when we look at the sequential growth in Connected Living going into Q4, trade-in seasonality and Keith can speak to it in a second, we definitely would expect to see that. We've got benefit from the new clients that we've launched, a little bit moderating expenses, but revenues flowing through. We also see seasonal loss improvements in the retail service contract business as well. So there's a few drivers that will create a sequential improvement in Connected Living, but maybe Keith talk a little bit about trading.
Keith Meier
Analyst · KBW
Yes. And I think as you think about trade-in, we -- I think we saw a little bit of softness in trade-in and promotional activity, offset by some newer programs in this quarter. If you think about it, the iPhone 16 launched on September 20th, but the first set of Apple Intelligence features were rolled out on October 28. So we certainly expect more promotional activity as we come into the fourth quarter. I think it was muted a little bit in the third quarter, but we expect that to pick up here in the fourth quarter.
Tommy McJoynt
Analyst · KBW
Thanks.
Keith Demmings
Analyst · KBW
Great, thank you.
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] We have no one else in the queue.
Keith Demmings
Analyst · UBS
Alright, wonderful. Well, thanks, everyone...
Operator
Operator
Apologies, we do. John Barnidge from Piper Sandler just raised his hand.
Keith Demmings
Analyst · UBS
Oh, John, just in time. Good morning.
John Barnidge
Analyst
Yes, good morning. Sorry. Yes, must not have captured the first star nine, but got a couple questions. Appreciate you fitting me in. Given we've got past experience of improving profitability meaningfully in Global Housing, I'm wondering if there are some lessons here that can be transferred to Global Auto? With rate increases having an impact on profitability, should we expect there to be a period of favorable reserve development in that business over-time at all?
Keith Demmings
Analyst · UBS
Yes, I mean, I think -- I'd probably say a couple of things where we've been through these cycles before for a variety of different reasons where maybe losses are elevated in different periods. I think our track-record of working through this with clients is exceptionally strong. The alignment of interest, the contracting got in place. So, Auto is a little different because of the nature of the product. It's longer-term in nature. So it takes a longer effort to kind of get it back to profitability where housing is an annual policy, but there's no doubt the lessons learned through housing. If you think back to a couple of years ago, simplified the business, drove a tremendous amount of focus on the core, didn't just attack the issue from a rate perspective, but look to drive operational efficiency, expense efficiency. And I think we're doing those same things on the auto side. So we're addressing it multiple ways. We're strengthening the business at a fundamental level as a result of some of the changes we're making. And we feel confident that we'll create some longer-term tailwinds. I don't think there'll be major step changes in terms of reserving releases over-time, but I'll let Keith speak to that.
Keith Meier
Analyst · UBS
Yes. And I would say just in general, these types of challenges just make us stronger in terms of the rigor and the -- and the actions that we take in that business. So I think that always does provide us some positive impacts as you look-forward. Just if you think about for Auto, we implemented 16 now total rate changes with our clients. So we've been working with our clients to do that. And then we also redesign products to make them more effective for the consumer and as well. So I think being able to pull all the levers that we have, I think our examples of there's different levers, as Keith mentioned in housing versus Auto, but I think it's a lot of that similar element. And so it's not so much the reserves for auto, it's more of the earnings of those rates that will be coming through over the next few years that provides us the little bit of tailwind there for Auto business.
John Barnidge
Analyst
And then my other question, you've had quite a lot of success taking wins in one business and winning in another business. I think Chase was a good example of that this year. Is there an opportunity to offer mobile coverage or other coverage to clients where you've won that global housing business? I know I get Hulu, Netflix and Apple TV with my mobile device. Wondering if there can be a bundling in the card and housing in mobile?
Keith Demmings
Analyst · UBS
Yes. I mean, it's definitely an interesting thought and we always think about how do we leverage the relationships that we've got and you think about the strength of Assurant, certainly it's the B2B to see nature of the business. But the fact that we operate across a wide number of distribution channels with major brands. So as clients are looking to reinvent how they bring services to market, I think we're well-positioned to capitalize on that. So I think the logic of your question makes perfect sense. Obviously, a dramatic amount of the scale has come through partnerships with mobile operators. If we look at the U.K. market, for example, though we work with major banks in the U.K. that offer mobile protection as part of their packaged bank account. So we definitely look for those opportunities where we think we're best positioned and we can deliver at scale.
Keith Meier
Analyst · UBS
Yes. And I think it's definitely a positive opportunity for us to leverage these relationships that we have with these large institutions like Chase. A good example is, I was meeting with some of their executives when we -- when they were launching the program last month and they said they did check with their Chase counterparts and basically we're doing reference checks on Assurant. They came back very positive. And so those types of things certainly can go a long way and are very positive for us to expand relationships.
John Barnidge
Analyst
Thanks for the answers.
Keith Demmings
Analyst · UBS
Thank you, John.
John Barnidge
Analyst
Thank you.
Operator
Operator
There is no one else in the queue. I will pass it back to Keith for closing remarks.
Keith Demmings
Analyst · UBS
Okay, wonderful. Well, thanks everybody for joining and we will certainly look-forward to another discussion in February. We'll share how we closed out the year and provide some guidance for 2025. So, thanks very much and have a great holiday season.