Scott Harris
Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Well, thank you, Matthew. Well, the data that we have, we think compares to every -- to any drug. The best liver fat reduction has been seen up till now with efruxifermin, we think that our data is at least comparable to that and better in some ways. So there's a strong literature that reduction in liver fat translates to success on NASH resolution and fibrosis improvement endpoints in late phase trials. So we've seen previously with the magical data. It was seen when the MGM program was active and was seen very strongly with the accurate data, and we would suspect that with the same, if not better levels of liver fat reduction, probably achieved in a shorter period of time that we will see comparable effects in a late-phase NASH trial, and we've received comments from KOLs like Stephen Harrison that this is the best data that he's seen yet at this phase of development. It's also accompanied now by the changes of the corrected T1 or cT1 data, and that's very important because that maps fibroinflammatory activity, the same way the ALT marks inflammatory activity, non-invasive markers that have appeared to be very predictive of success in biopsies. But going, if you would allow me, outside of the exact -- the field of NASH, cardiologists are now looking at cT1 data inflammatory activity in the liver to predict inflammatory activity in coronary and cerebrovascular plaques. And they've also drawn inference from reductions of cT1 as improving cardiovascular outcomes. So I think that our positioning in NASH is really excellent. And not only do we have comparable levels of liver fat data and at least as good reductions in fibroinflammatory activity in our current trials, but we have one thing that the other compounds in NASH with similar levels of fat reduction don't have, which is meaningful weight loss. The weight loss with efruxifermin, and I believe it was at 24 weeks was approximately 2.6%. We're seeing about double that in about one half at a time. And what gets these people in NASH into trouble is they are being overweight, and the principal morbidities of NASH are not necessarily the liver effects, but the cardiovascular effects, especially in the early phases of the disease, and weight loss is very meaningful for these people. So, holistically, from the point of view of liver fat reduction, reduction in inflammatory activity, fibroinflammatory activity plus the meaningful reduction of weight, I think that we stand alone in the NASH spectrum of drugs and developments.