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Alta Equipment Group Inc. (ALTG)

Q3 2021 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 11, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Altice Whitman Group Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Jason Dammeyer, Director. Please go ahead.

Jason Dammeyer

Management

Thank you, Celine. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. A press release detailing Alta’s third quarter 2021 financial results was issued this afternoon and is posted on our website, along with the presentation designed to assist you in understanding the company’s results. On the call with me today are Ryan Greenawalt, our Chairman and CEO; and Tony Colucci, our Chief Financial Officer. For today’s call, management will first provide a review of the third quarter financial results. We will begin with some prepared remarks before we open the call for your questions. Before we get started, I’d like to remind everyone that this conference call may contain certain forward-looking statements, including statements about future financial results, our business strategy and financial outlook, achievements of the company and other nonhistorical statements as described in our press release. These forward-looking statements are subject to both known and unknown risks, uncertainties and assumptions, including those related to altered growth, market opportunities and general economic and business conditions. We have based these forward-looking statements largely on our current expectations and projections about future events and financial trends that we believe may affect our business, financial condition and results of operations. Although we believe these expectations are reasonable, we undertake no obligation to revise any statement to reflect changes that occur after this call. Descriptions of these and other risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements are discussed in our reports filed with the SEC, including our press release that was issued today. During this call, we may present both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures is included in today’s press release and can be found on our website at investor.altaequipment.com. I will now turn the call over to Ryan.

Ryan Greenawalt

Management

Thank you, Jason, and welcome, everyone, to our third quarter 2021 earnings call. On the call today, I will provide highlights on the quarter, give an overview of the persisting industry dynamics and discuss the progress we made on our strategic growth opportunities. Tony will then go into more detail on the financials. We had a great quarter. Net revenues increased 33.7% year-over-year to $295 million with adjusted EBITDA growth of 43.4% to $31.4 million and high-margin product support revenue, including parts and service sales grew 22.1% in the third quarter. Drivers in the quarter included the current favorable market dynamics, outperformances in our New England Upstate New York and Florida regions, the fourth consecutive quarter of above average equipment sales, which will help to drive future product support opportunities, increased rental revenue driven by supply chain constraints, continued strength in our construction segments, strong growth in product support and the initial benefits of the recent ERP integration, which transitioned our acquired businesses onto a centralized platform, driving synergies, creating cross-selling opportunities and streamlining operations. On the labor front, productivity remained at benchmark levels, driven by robust service demand. To meet this demand, we have continued to hire technicians. Looking ahead, we continue to recruit aggressively. We hired additional recruiting support staff and are currently recruiting across all geographies. Third quarter market conditions led to strong demand for new and used equipment, increased rental fleet utilization and a growing need for replacement parts and services. Alta remains well positioned to take advantage of the current price appreciation, high rental and labor rates to drive growth across all markets. The breadth and diversity of our equipment portfolio, our extensive inventory and rental fleet and our best-in-class service and parts business give us a meaningful competitive advantage. These capabilities will allow us…

Tony Colucci

Management

Thanks, Ryan. Good evening, everyone, and thank you for your interest in Alta Equipment Group in our third quarter earnings call. Before I start, I want to wish everyone a happy Veterans Day and for those veterans and members of the military listening in, thank you for your service to our country. Second, I’d like to welcome our new team members at Baron Industries in Massachusetts and Gypsum Machinery in Ohio. The senior leadership team and I look forward to earning your trust and embracing you into Alta’s One Team culture. My remarks today will focus on four main areas. First, I’ll be presenting our third quarter results. As part of that commentary, I’d like to reiterate for investors how the current supply chain situation is impacting Alta and our business model continues to respond positively to the situation. I will profile the Baron and Gibson transactions from a financial perspective and to round out my comments for the quarter with a quick check-in on the balance sheet. Second, given that it’s been a full year since acquiring Peak Logix, which represented a strategic acquisition and our formal entry into the warehouse system design and build space, I will present a year 1 look back on the deal, highlighting our ability to realize synergies and enhance our target’s value post close. Third, I want to provide some industry data as it relates to the Class 8 truck market and Alta’s opportunity within the commercial EV space, specific to our Northeast region and recently announced agreement with Nikola. Last, I’ll discuss the positive revision to our guidance as we carry the momentum of the year into the final quarter. Before I begin, it should be noted that there are several slides in our presentation, which was released prior to our call…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We have our first question coming from the line of Alex Rygiel with B. Riley. Your line is open.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst

Thank you. Good evening, gentleman. A very nice quarter.

Ryan Greenawalt

Management

Thanks, Alex. Good evening.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst

Couple quick questions here. A couple of quick questions here. First, sales of new and used equipment have been at a very high level like you’ve stated over the last couple of quarters. And can you keep highlighting that -- suggesting that maybe there could be some softness if we got back to a more normalized environment. But do you see that sort of more normalized environment on the horizon, particularly since the federal government is about to pass a federal infrastructure book.

Ryan Greenawalt

Management

Great question, Alex. This is Ryan. I’ll take that. So we -- the short answer is no. We don’t see any normalizing happening. And as I said in my remarks, we think that any potential stimulus coming from an infrastructure bill is only going to add to the demand. There’s a practical manner of just how much equipment can be delivered and put into use in a practical amount of time. So the way that we have been thinking about this is that the cycle is just going to get longer. We’re in early innings of a cycle that we think is going to last many years, and that’s consistent right now across all geos and business lines.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst

That’s very helpful. And then you referenced backlog a couple of different times. I know you don’t formally disclose a backlog figure. But can you talk a little bit more about sort of backlog today versus maybe the last quarter or a year ago?

Ryan Greenawalt

Management

Sure. Alex, I would say that I would characterize it as a stabilization. -- backlogs remain at historically high, if not record levels in most of the business, but it’s stable. We haven’t seen lead times stretch much worse than what we saw the previous quarter. And that said, we also don’t see it returning to normal lead times for more than a year. We think that we’re going to be mid next year to late next year before we see any kind of stabilization of the actual supply chain and our lead times on equipment.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst

That’s great. And then looking at the services business, it looked like revenue might have been a little bit softer than what I was expecting and seeing with margin, particularly on a sequential basis. Anything in particular that are going on in service?

Tony Colucci

Management

No, Alex. I think what we’re focused on as a management team is kind of the organic growth that we see in our businesses. Sequentially, I want to say the $87 million was very close to Q2. And so the good news is that, that number hasn’t slipped. As we’ve talked historically, the product support business is almost directly tied to technician headcount. And while that hasn’t slipped at all, we’ve been able to maintain headcount. And so nothing -- we continue to grow organically, I guess, as the mention in the product support business, specifically in some of our newer geographies like Florida, like we highlighted last quarter. And the Material Handling business, I think, importantly, as a note, grew 5% organically this quarter. So I think the trends are good. They were very close, as you mentioned, to Q2, but we expect to continue to drive that number higher.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst

Very helpful, thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, we have our next question comes from the line of Matt Summerville with D.A. Davidson. Your line is open.

Matt Summerville

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Your line is open.

Thanks. A couple of questions. First, with respect to pricing, can you talk about what you’re seeing on new used rental equipment pricing versus last year? And I’m asking a similar question on the parts side of the business. And then how you think kind of early read on how you think that trends in 2022.

Tony Colucci

Management

I’ll take that one, Matt. The environment in terms of pricing, and there’s a lot of industry data out there, but use the equipment prices are peaking or half peak and continue to peak. And so we can see that in our margins when you look at rental disposal margins and then even in mended equipment sales, relative to last year, which I think is the first part of your question, we would be up versus last year at this time. Having said that, when I look at our margins on tangible asset sales, they’ve held and that’s in an environment where our OEMs are raising prices on us. And so over the last nine months, 12 months, you can see us holding margin in an environment where we’re paying more for equipment, we’re paying more for parts. In some areas, we’re paying more for labor, but we’ve been able to drive margin higher – or I’m sorry, hold margin and drive it higher on a nominal basis.

Matt Summerville

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Your line is open.

And then the same question on the aftermarket side of the business, how much price you’ve taken this year in part from service and what might be realistic for next.

Ryan Greenawalt

Management

Matt, I’ll take that piece of it. So this is Ryan. The parts and service margins are going to remain relatively static. So we will see price increases likely for most of our manufacturers, and we’ll pass those increases along and hold our margins. And the same is true on the labor side. We’re not seeing outsized wage inflation from what we’ve seen in the been previous years, but we do every year pass along those increases to the market as to our competition.

Matt Summerville

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Your line is open.

Got it. And I was hoping to get a little more granularity on some of the main material handling end markets. Organically, you guys were up 2% year-on-year. if I sort of – I guess that would almost attribute all of that organic increase to peak logic given the contents of the slide you put in the deck tonight. So I guess what are you seeing in the base material handling markets outside of maybe peak logic? And how should we be thinking about that going forward?

Ryan Greenawalt

Management

So one of the things we love about our material handling business is the diversity of our end markets. So our heritage in the Motor City and Detroit area was that we were heavily concentrated with auto manufacturing. And that was historically a very dense end market. They use a lot of forklifts in the manufacturing of automobiles and still do. Today, that percentage is much lower. And so the fast-growing parts of the business today are more the retail and warehousing. You think the big box stores, the Amazon fulfillment centers and warehousing centers, the Costcos, the Walmarts of the world. Those are a generation ago, it was the big three that were the big buyers of forklifts. And today, it’s the big retailers with their logistics businesses. And then there are regional pockets in the Northeast, we have more of our high-tech and chemical industry, pharmaceuticals, educational accounts. And Illinois more resembles Michigan with some manufacturing but then a lot more of a robust market on the logistics and warehousing side with Chicagoland being a major intermodal area. One thing that we -- as we approached this call, we always check in just from all other regions and hear from the boots on the ground. And we can’t point to an end market across the geography and across all business segments that’s weak today. So we spoke a little bit about the warehousing market, that’s kind of linked to the peak, and that’s where we see really explosive growth. And we think that COVID accelerated that as it changed some buying behaviors and people have kind of sequestered at home. And we right now don’t see any slowdown in that trend. So just overall growth across all markets. And if there’s a growth spot or an area where the mix is likely to build over time, it’s that warehouse market.

Matt Summerville

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Your line is open.

Got it.

Tony Colucci

Management

Matt, this is...

Matt Summerville

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Your line is open.

Yeah.

Tony Colucci

Management

I apologize, Matt, I was just going to jump in there really briefly. You mentioned the 2% in the material handling business. Ryan and I did mention previously about new equipment sales and not losing sleep and if there’s been a couple of points here. Organically, the rental business and the material handling is up 14% versus last year. As I mentioned, product support, up 5%. So the 2% just diluted by the fact that we haven’t been able to take delivery of forklifts from Hyster-Yale specifically and get them delivered out into the market. So if there’s an area, and this gets to where our cash flows come from, if there’s an area that’s suffering relative to revenue in material handling, it’s in that new equipment department, but again, that doesn’t drive EBITDA. And when we are able to take delivery, we would expect a spike in that new equipment line.

Matt Summerville

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Your line is open.

Excellent. That’s a very good point. And then just one final question. A couple of tuck-in deals just completed. What’s your outlook for M&A heading into the remainder of this year, but more importantly, into 2022 as we think about maybe the next 6 to 12 months, how actionable is the pipeline. Given some of the things being talked about in the administration, are you seeing maybe more activity than you would otherwise? I know 2020 was obviously a big year for you guys, but maybe just spend a few more minutes on M&A. Thank you.

Tony Colucci

Management

Sure, Matt. This is Tony. I think we’ve always kind of mentioned that the pipeline and how active it is. And certainly, it got really active there for the end of Q3, I would say. And whereby people were maybe front-running a potential or sellers were maybe fun running a potential tax increase from the Fed. And so we saw an uptick in terms of volume of sellers at that point. And we will be active in the M&A markets yet before the end of the year where we expect to be on some of those deals that came across our desk, I don’t want to speak to the size or identity of any of those targets at this point, but we do expect to be active before the end of the year. The other thing that I would submit is we had laid out for investors early on the level of M&A we thought we would be able to do, not necessarily volume-wise in terms of how many targets, but financially. And we had penciled out somewhere around $15 million of EBITDA on an annual basis. Obviously, sometimes that becomes lumpy in terms of being able to execute on your pipeline. But we still think that’s a pretty good number in terms of EBITDA we’d be able to acquire each year.

Matt Summerville

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Your line is open.

Thank you, guys.

Ryan Greenawalt

Management

Thanks, Matt.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We have our next question coming from the line of Bryan Fast with Raymond James. Your line is open. Bryan Fast, your line is open. You may ask your question.

Bryan Fast

Analyst

Yes. Good afternoon, guys. Could you just get some more color on the landscape for technician hires? I understand that it is competitive out there, but just maybe just some high-level comments on how you’re attracting talent.

Ryan Greenawalt

Management

This is Ryan. This is a theme that we try to touch on every call that the shortage of skilled trades for our industry has been a topic for a decade. It’s not a new thing. And so companies like also have to be good at recruiting and attracting that talent. And so there’s no silver bullet, but we have relationships with trade schools and community colleges with vocational programs in every region. We’re focused on onboarding fresh talent and bringing people into the industry and apprentice type programs. And then our best source of referrals of taking good care of our current associates. And they are a source of referrals. They bring their friends and family into the business. And we’ve been able to stay in front of that demographic headwind if there’s not enough people coming into these industry jobs. Right now, one thing we’ll highlight is that we do have three full-time recruiters on staff that are spending the majority of their time sourcing technical talent. And that’s something that would set us apart from most of our peers that are -- that don’t have the scale to have that type of an effort ongoing.

Bryan Fast

Analyst

Fair enough. And then just on the rental utilization number at 70%. How does this compare to the long-term average?

Tony Colucci

Management

I’ll take that one, Bryan. This is where we would like to be this time of year in that 70% range. So we feel like we’re in a good position relative to Alta’s history, which, as you know, we’ve grown significantly via M&A and even organically in the last couple of years. But relative to the history that I’ve been with the company, 70% is kind of a high watermark. I would say that more typically this time of year, we’ve been in the mid-60s. And so yes, we’re very pleased with our physical utilization and expect to continue to stay at those levels. Certainly, we’ll have seasonality, just to remind investors, specifically in the rental fleet, given our northern exposure as we go through Q1 in Q2. But yes, we are very pleased kind of with that 70% physical utilization number.

Bryan Fast

Analyst

Okay. That seems like a healthy number. That’s it for me.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We have our last question coming from the line of Jack Ryan with Colliers. Your line is open.

Analyst

Analyst

Thank you. Guys, when you look at your EV or e-mobility initiative with Nikola, what sort of challenges, whether that’s facility-wise or tech training wise could present any issues as you stand up with Northeast part of the country.

Ryan Greenawalt

Management

So the challenges, I don’t think are unique to nickel there, the challenges that come from seeding a market with a new product and not having a field population. So -- and as we always remind our investors, our business is supporting the product as much as it’s selling it. We drive a lot of our cash flows from the product support into the business. So the Nikola strategy and the Nikola growth opportunity will require us to seed the market before we start enjoying that annuitized revenue stream that comes from having the field population. So that’s, I think, the biggest challenge. That’s the crux of it. In terms of the facilities or the training requirements or the supporting the product, we think that we’re in a unique position to really partner with Nikola with the customer base to support the product. We’ve got a lot of experience in electromobility from our material handling business. We have experience in both batteries and fuel cell technologies. And so we believe we’re prepared to hit the ground running and couldn’t be more excited about this piece of the business, the growth prospects for it.

Tony Colucci

Management

I’m sorry, I was just going to jump in. We are doing some things just infrastructure-wise. And when I say infrastructure, facilities-wise, getting prepared, maybe repurposing portions of facilities out in the Northeast. The other thing we’re doing just kind of in the back office, some administrative stuff to be prepared for revenue effectively when we’re up and running. So things like getting our ERP system together, preparing for sales and use tax compliance so on and so forth. So there are things going on that we’re preparing for to launch here in 2022.

Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Then with the infrastructure spending, as you’ve mentioned, layering on and very strong marketplace for you. From an M&A perspective, does that make you consider throwing the net out to other geographies that you’re not currently in?

Ryan Greenawalt

Management

I’ll take that one. So the idea that we throw the cast the net wider, I don’t think really applies. We are actively prospecting. We are actively engaged in trade groups where we know the dealers for the various manufacturers. And more than ever, the phone is ringing in where we are hearing from entrepreneurs that are ready for an exit or we’re hearing from original equipment manufacturers that are looking for well-capitalized businesses to partner with for distribution. So we’re excited about the infrastructure bill. We’re excited about what the implications for what it means for the demand in our markets. But I think that we sort of have already cast that net. We’re looking for growth opportunities that are coherent with our strategy as much as possible, contiguous growth within the regions. And for now, that we have plenty of opportunity to continue to pursue.

Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And that concludes the Q&A portion for today’s call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.