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Operator
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Krista, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Amcor Fiscal 2025 Fourth Quarter and Full Year Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Tracey Whitehead, Head of Investor Relations. Ms. Whitehead, you may begin.
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Tracey Whitehead
Analyst
Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining Amcor's Fiscal 2025 Fourth Quarter Earnings Call. Joining today is Peter Konieczny, Chief Executive Officer; and Michael Casamento, Chief Financial Officer. Before I hand over a few items to note. On our website, amcor.com, under the Investors section, you'll find today's press release and presentation, which we'll discuss on this call. Please be aware that we'll also discuss non-GAAP financial measures and related reconciliations can be found in those materials. Remarks will also include forward-looking statements that are based on management's current views and assumptions. The second slide in today's presentation there's several factors that could cause future results to be different than current estimates. Reference can be made to Amcor's SEC filings, including our statement on Form 10-K and 10-Q for further details. [Operator Instructions] With that, over to you, PK.
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Peter Konieczny
Analyst
Thank you, Tracey, and thank you to everyone joining us today. I would like to start by highlighting that this has been a significant milestone quarter for Amcor. We completed the acquisition of Berry Global and are now 100 days into combining 2 complementary businesses, and transforming Amcor's ability to create value for our customers and shareholders. Our efforts are reflected in our expectation to deliver strong adjusted EPS growth of 12% to 17% in fiscal '26, with free cash flow expected to double to $1.8 billion to $1.9 billion. Significant work was done ahead of close and integration efforts kicked off quickly on day 1. Feedback from customers has been positive and leadership teams are in place across the organization. We're executing against our synergy work plans, and we have undertaken the strategic portfolio review discussed on prior calls. In short, we are creating a stronger business that is well positioned to deliver higher levels of consistent organic growth and long-term shareholder value. Turning to Slide 3 and safety. Similar to Amcor, safety has always been a core value for Berry. Both companies have a long history of excellent execution in providing a safe workplace, and this remains our #1 priority. For fiscal '25, Amcor's Total Recordable Incident Rate, TRIR, was 0.27, and 68% of our sites remained injury-free for the entire year. For the 2 months of May and June, Berry's TRIR was 0.57. Our commitment to providing and sustaining a safe working environment remains absolute. Slide 4 outlines our key messages for today, and these are aligned with our near-term priorities to deliver on the base, integrate and capture synergies and optimize the portfolio. First, in terms of results. With 2 months contribution from Berry, Q4 shows a step-up to a high level of quarterly net sales…
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Michael John Casamento
Analyst
With that, I'll turn the call over to Michael.Thanks, PK, and hello, everyone. Before getting into further detail of financial performance for Q4, a couple of things to note. Firstly, a reminder that the reported Q4 financial results include 3 months contribution from the legacy Amcor business and 2 months contribution from the legacy Berry business. Second, as PK mentioned earlier, we moved swiftly to operate as a unified organization, making decisions and managing the business on a combined basis. This included optimizing our network by reallocating volumes to better balance supply and demand. And as a result, while both legacy businesses saw a similar overall volume performance in May and June, our volume commentary will be primarily focused on year-over-year performance on a combined basis. Starting with the Global Flexible Packaging Solutions segment on Slide 11, which includes Amcor's large-scale Flexible Packaging business and Berry's Flexible business from the 1st of May 2025, Volumes for the combined businesses were down approximately 1.5%. By region, demand in North America was weaker than anticipated, with volumes down low single-digit primarily reflecting softer demand in unconverted film as well as in categories such as snacks and confectionary that can be a little more discretionary. Across all other regions, volumes were broadly in line with the prior year, with continued growth across Latin America and Asia, including in Brazil and China, offsetting modestly lower volumes in Europe. From an end market perspective, we delivered another quarter of solid growth across several focus categories. Health care, protein, including meat and dairy, and liquids delivered low to mid-single-digit volume increases, supported in part by market share gains and pet care was strong. These gains were more than offset by softer volumes in other categories, including unconverted film, snacks and confectionary and home & personal care,…
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Peter Konieczny
Analyst
Thank you, Michael. I want to leave you with a few closing thoughts prior to opening the call for questions. We have several levers under our control that will lead to strong earnings growth over the next several years. We remain confident in our ability to deliver $260 million in synergies this fiscal year and a cumulative total of $650 million by the end of '28, reflecting the strength of our integration strategy and execution. We're taking definite actions that will improve the financial performance of our North American Beverage business. And through portfolio optimization, we are focusing the business on attractive nutrition and health markets, each and all of these contribute to creating a stronger business and long-term shareholder value. Operator, we're ready for questions.
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Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Matthew Roberts with Raymond James.
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Matthew Burke Roberts
Analyst
On the potential beverage strategic considerations, now that, that's been officially announced, while the timing is uncertain, how could that impact the procurement synergies given that complementary resin buying was a portion of the buying power there. And in the event there is an action taken, should we think of procurement savings as a similar dollar amount over the 3 years or maybe as a percent of revenue? Any considerations would be helpful there.
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Peter Konieczny
Analyst
Well, thanks, Matthew. I think the potential divestment of the North American beverage business will not have a material impact on our ability to generate the procurement savings. We spoke on several calls before that both legacy businesses have been strong buyers of different resin categories. Berry actually buys little PET material, whereas this is the major material for the North American beverage business. And we should also keep in mind that some of the resin that we convert in the North American beverage business is actually [indiscernible]. So on the back of that, we believe that the procurement savings that we're estimating, which are making up about 50% of the committed synergies, are not materially impacted. So we're still -- we're still in dollar terms, we're still expecting about $650 million.
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Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of George Staphos with Bank of America.
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George Leon Staphos
Analyst · Bank of America.
PK, my question is on top line trends. Can you talk a bit about why from what your customers are saying, you're still seeing such weakness in what should be stable to growing markets, especially markets that you think you're now gaining share in? So why are we not seeing better volume trends there? And for that matter, volume trends out of you, given that you're gaining share? And the related question, way back when Amcor was one of the, I think, first companies that did value-based pricing across its portfolio to good effect. What opportunities do you see here about implementing the same thing across the Berry platform?
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Peter Konieczny
Analyst · Bank of America.
Thanks, George. Two questions there. Let me just make a quick note here so that I don't forget. So first off, on the volume performance, maybe that gives me an opportunity to step back and shed a little more light and summarize the key messages again. Fourth quarter came in a little softer than what we expected and also sequentially softer. That was essentially the miss against our expectations. We had expected the same volume performance in Q4 that we saw in Q3. When you took a look at the major underlying trends, it's really the weakness in North America that drove it. When we look outside of North America, we saw volume performance, which was broadly flat versus prior year. We saw some growth in the emerging markets between LatAm and Asia Pacific that was offset by just a tad of a weakness in Europe. So North America, the major source of weakness here. Both businesses have seen similar trends. So exposure pretty much the same in North America to a weaker environment. And that was driven by overall consumer sentiment in a macroeconomic environment that drives just different buying behaviors and has ceased consumers that are more value seeking, and that's what we're seeing from our customers who are pretty much broadly aligned with the volume trends that we're also seeing. So a lot of consistency, I think in the customer comments particularly in the U.S. And a final comment maybe, if I may, a little more of a softening on the Berry side than the legacy Amcor side, but don't forget, while the trends are the same that Berry has a higher exposure to North America and also is exposed a little more to some exposure to, I would call them, industrial end market segments like unconverted film that have seen a bit more of an impact. I just want to add here, Michael is saying there was a second part of the question, which was absolutely right. The value-based pricing. Just a quick comment on that. Do we see opportunities on for value-based pricing going forward? Absolutely. In the context of our commercial synergy work streams, we're looking at deploying best practices from both sides of the legacy businesses. And we believe that the value-based pricing that Amcor has worked on for many years in the past is an opportunity for us to look carefully at pricing across the Berry portfolio, and we're going to make use of that.
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Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Anthony Pettinari with Citi.
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Anthony James Pettinari
Analyst · Citi.
I wonder if you could give any more detail on the $1 billion under review that isn't the North American bev business, understanding those are smaller businesses from a geographic standpoint or a product standpoint or just sort of strategically, what characteristics do they have?
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Peter Konieczny
Analyst · Citi.
Yes. Thanks, Anthony. Happy to do that. First off, we're talking about 10 businesses that make up the $1 billion. The businesses are pretty much distributed between the 2 legacy businesses. So you will find some of them in the legacy Amcor portfolio. You will find some of them on the legacy Berry portfolio. In terms of the criteria that we have applied, let me just help you with that a bit, and I spoke about that, and some of those are summarized, I think, on Slide 10. We said, on a high level, in terms of headlines, do our businesses that we now have on a combined basis, do they have an attractive growth margin portfolio? And that is obviously a consideration over the long term. How do we like the industry structure that would include questions like, are we exposed to large markets? Do we have room to grow? What are the barriers to entry? And there's a couple of other considerations. And then the third one was scale and leadership where we said, well, do we have significant share in that category? Or are we large in that category as a combined Amcor, and/or another one would be do we have technology that positions us well in those categories? Where businesses failed one or a combination of these criteria, we put them aside and that makes now up for the 10 plus -- 10 businesses plus North American beverage. The -- just maybe one more comment that gives you a bit of a flavor of what we're talking about. These are businesses also where you could say they have an exposure to a more cyclical end market exposure, and that could be one criteria, or if it is, consumer packaging related, and therefore, a little more stable. Think about a single market where we have an activity, but we're participating more than winning because we're not really positioned that well in that market. And where we take a decision where we say, look, in order for us to get to a #1 or #2 position in that market, we would have to deploy capital, which at this point in time, we have other sources or we have other -- opportunities for which we would prefer. So that's how we got to the portfolio.
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Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of John Purtell with Macquarie.
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John Purtell
Analyst · Macquarie.
Look, just further to an earlier question, just around any -- just to clarify any market share shifts to call out as well as any -- just in terms of, I suppose, talking to the volume performance, any market share shifts to call out? And has there been any destocking by your customers that you've seen? Obviously, that has been something that we've seen in the past.
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Peter Konieczny
Analyst · Macquarie.
Yes. Thanks, John. I think it's a -- I'm going to keep it really simple here and try to help you understand market share shifts or share gains or losses, particularly given the volume performance is not the driver. We're laser-focused on that, and we're really trying to understand well where the performance comes from. It really comes down to consumer and customer demand. Share is not the issue and neither is destocking. We have, a couple of quarters ago, seen a very structured and broad approach of our customer base to reduce inventory levels to more efficient lower levels. We have literally gone through that. Even in the health care business, which was lagging this whole trend, we have significantly improved. I couldn't tie any of that back to destocking. Where we do see destocking, maybe on single customers, I would call that more either seasonally driven stock movements, which we have seen beforehand, too, or maybe there are tactical inventory movements, but nothing that we've seen beforehand.
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Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Arun Viswanathan with RBC Capital Markets.
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Arun Shankar Viswanathan
Analyst · RBC Capital Markets.
Congrats on integration there getting started. Just looking at that $260 million number, it looks like that's about $0.10 of accretion next year. Maybe you can just put that in context. So does that kind of accelerate through the year, as you said, probably will be back half loaded. You already have cut some head -- achieved some headcount. So I guess, is that going to be the main driver. Maybe you can just discuss some of the logistics actions and some of the other integration efforts you are going to undertake to achieve that $0.10. And then I guess, how does that -- or that $260 million? And how does that proceed from there? Do you expect to be maybe at 80% in year 2? Or what should we think how the synergies kind of come in?
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Michael John Casamento
Analyst · RBC Capital Markets.
Thanks. It's Michael here. I can take that one for you. So yes, you're correct, right. We called out $260 million in our guidance as synergies, and that's right in line with what we -- the timing we've pitched from the start. So we're reaffirming that and feel really confident around that. That's about 40% of the $650 million, and we'd expect it to '27, just to answer that question, another 40% with 20% coming in year 3. And that split of synergies in FY '26, $240 million of it is cost -- more cost related, and there's about $20 million that we see in financial synergies in the interest and tax line there for you. The other point to note is that the $260 million obviously is pre-tax. So from an EPS standpoint, it's about $0.09. So that's about the 12% baseline growth that we talked to on the -- to get us to that bottom end of the range of $0.80. So again, we feel really confident in that the ability to deliver that in the self-help there. And then if I just touch on where we think it's coming from. You're right. We've had a good start. We've taken out around 200 heads. We've already identified 5 sites for closure. And as PK mentioned, we've made good progress on procurement. So typically, though, what you see first is the general and admin costs tend to come in first. We'll get some procurement this year as well and, to a lesser extent, the footprint and growth synergies. And we're making really good progress on that. So in terms of Q1, I called out, we think that the phasing there is going to be around $35 million to $40 million in Q1. That's around 15% of the total for the year. Probably, as you work your way through the half, will be more around kind of 35%. And so you'll get -- which is about $90 million, and then you'll get the balance in the back half of the year, so as we exit strongly in Q4. And look, of the $240 million cost that I called out, I'd say that's going to be largely G&A and procurement with a little bit of operational improvement and small growth synergy included in that.
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Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Ramoun Lazar with Jefferies.
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Ramoun Lazar
Analyst · Jefferies.
Just a quick one from me. Just if you could give us a little bit more color on the operational issues within that Rigid beverages business and perhaps maybe just quantify that impact.
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Peter Konieczny
Analyst · Jefferies.
Yes. Ramoun, I'll be happy to do that. Let me start and then when it comes to quantification. I'll hand it off to Michael. Look, I'm going to say very loud and clear. We're not happy with the performance of the North American beverage business in the fourth quarter. If I summarize very simply what actually has happened, the business was very focused rightly so on taking cost out, particularly in the first half of the year in order to support earnings in an environment of lower volumes. And as they then were approaching what we were approaching the fourth quarter, which in that business seasonally is the highest volume quarter, and we ran into service issues for our customers. And that had to do with the out-of-region supplies and drove higher waste levels, drove higher labor cost in the business. And that is what happened. We're not proud of it. Flexing our capacities with volumes is something that we're very familiar with. In that case, we have obviously done too much of that, but we're going to get that fixed. Now in terms of quantification, Michael, do you want to take that?
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Michael John Casamento
Analyst · Jefferies.
Yes. No, look, I think just to put a bit of color around that. I mean you can see from the results that year-on-year, if you exclude the Berry cap impact because we know that was in the prior year, that was about $7 million. If I take that out, the business was down in North America beverage primarily around $20 million. So it was a reasonable decline versus the prior year. And to PK's point, we're not happy with that. It was really a combination of the labor. We started to build labor. And as we said, and there's a couple of big plants where the volumes did increase, but we just couldn't operationally manage those through. So we incurred some higher labor, less fixed cost absorption, and we had some out-of-region freight to service customers. So that really drove the decline for the high cost base versus the prior year. We're on it. PK has again touched on that. We're still expecting some elevated costs in Q1, and we'll drive improvement from there.
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Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Michael Roxland with Truist Securities.
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Michael Andrew Roxland
Analyst · Truist Securities.
Congrats on closing the deal and all the progress. You're guiding to adjusted EPS of approximately $0.80 to $0.83. What type of volume growth is embedded in that forecast? And relatedly, you also mentioned you expected an elevated cost base for North America beverage to impact -- negatively impact 1Q. How should we think about the impact that North American bev has on that EPS forecast through the balance of fiscal '26?
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Michael John Casamento
Analyst · Truist Securities.
Yes. Thanks, Mike. I can start there. Perhaps I'll take that for you. So look, we -- as I said in my remarks, from a demand environment, we're not anticipating any real improvement in the demand environment. We're still expecting volumes to be pretty subdued. So we're giving you a guidance range of $0.80 to $0.83. I think probably the underlying principle is that volumes are going to be flat. So you're not going to see much revenue growth on that front. And obviously, if we see a better outcome than that, then that's one of those areas that helps us get to the top end of the range. If it was worse than that, we obviously can take some cost out and help manage that. So that's a way to offset that. I think as I called out, I think from a beverage -- North America beverage standpoint, we will still see some elevated costs in the first quarter. That said, the underlying business again in Q1, and I touched on that, we are expecting volumes to be perhaps similar to Q4, maybe slightly better, but nothing materially different. So we will manage the cost base with a strong focus in Q1, but we also get the synergy delivery. So we are expecting that $35 million to $40 million in synergies come through to about 8% EPS growth.
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Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Keith Chau with MST Financial.
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Keith Chau
Analyst · MST Financial.
Just a question relating to the North American beverages business again. So sorry for elaborating the point, but quite clearly, it's been identified as an asset for sale, but also quite clearly, it's underperforming at the moment. So I just want to try and understand the process in a bit more detail. I mean, obviously, you'll be looking to divest or do something with that business when the earnings power is right. But what gives you a degree of confidence that there is a line of sight to improving business performance? And clearly, you've mentioned a few aspects already, but if you think about the fail-safe measures, the day todays, what are the parameters that you're looking at before divestment there, please?
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Peter Konieczny
Analyst · MST Financial.
Yes, Keith, it's a good question. And I will start out by saying these two things are -- actually, you should try to keep them apart. The operating performance of the business in a short period of time should not drive your strategic assessment of the portfolio. And so these are two things. So they're difficult to keep apart when you have the situation that we just had, right? You make a strategic assessment and you see an operating performance of the business, which is not great. And -- but the theory, what science would say, you should keep that apart. Now, we -- the way that we look at this in the current situation is we're going to focus, and I said that in my prepared comments, we're going to focus on stabilizing the business. And that will probably take a couple of quarters for us to get there. And I think that's the right thing to do. When you stabilize the business before we can realistically think about bring this business to the market and will not take forever, but it will take a bit of time. Once that is done, we will go forward and we will very quickly assess the alternatives that we have for this business. And this is something where, generally, for all of the businesses, we will have to look at a couple of stakeholders that we need to keep in mind. First and foremost, I will say it's actually the customer. We will do nothing here across all of those 10 plus 1 businesses, 10 plus the North American beverage business. We'll do that together with our customers because the customers will have to be supportive of everything that we do. And then obviously, our owners and the shareholders and that will be a combination of a value consideration and a speed consideration. Because once you identify businesses that are non-core, you actually want to make progress against those. So we have that also on the agenda. There's no question. And I think that covers it from my side.
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Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Nathan Reilly with UBS.
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Nathan Reilly
Analyst · UBS.
PK, just -- I'm just curious, how are you thinking about the timing of potential growth investment or even share buybacks? Just noting, obviously, you're targeting a reduction in your leverage. There's also potential there for divestments. I'm just curious to get an understanding that you're thinking about maybe target leverage in terms of those opportunities?
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Michael John Casamento
Analyst · UBS.
Yes, I can take that one, Nathan, if you like, it's Michael here. Thanks for the question. Yes. Look, I mean, we're committed to the investment-grade credit rating. And we've said that as part of this transaction all the way along. So for us, that means a leverage range of 2.5 to 3x. And as we talked about today, we're outside that range, which is in line with our expectations at this point in time. So the first thing we need to do is delever and get that leverage back into that range. So that will be the focus. And obviously, the strong cash flow that we're generating in FY '26 contributes to that. And you see a really good delevering down from the 3.5x we're at today, down more into that 3.1, 3.2x. And as I said in my remarks, that doesn't include any proceeds from portfolio optimization. So if we were to get some proceeds there, we would, first and foremost, put that to delevering further so paying down debt. And then once we're comfortably in that 2.5 to 3x range, we'll then start to think more about the capital allocation, particularly around share buybacks. But as well as others that industry at times comes up with -- there will be some M&A opportunities out there. That still remains on the agenda, obviously, because typically, we've obviously got to get through a fair part of the integration to start with. But as we work our way through that, they're typically bolt-on and small types of acquisitions. So we wouldn't discount those. But clearly, first and foremost, we're focused on delevering and getting the balance sheet back into that 2.5x to 3x range.
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Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Brook Campbell-Crawford, Barrenjoey.
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Brook Campbell-Crawford
Analyst
And just one on Berry and accretion. I guess back in the last result call, we talked about being $0.01 per share accretive in the June quarter. So just how should we think about that for FY '26, I guess, accretion from the deal before synergies? And can you comment on the magnitude of the EBIT performance, I guess, probably decline in Berry in May and June '25 versus the PCP events?
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Michael John Casamento
Analyst
Yes, I can start on that one, Brook. Thanks. Yes, look, the Berry combination did have some contribution to our EPS in the quarter, it was, call it, $0.005 to $0.01, which is what we kind of referred to back in April. And it's always going to be a factor of the income versus the share count and how that flows through. What I can tell you is the $0.712 we reported that's pretty much the combined. If you look at it on a combined basis, it's a pretty similar number. So you only -- that's where we start from. And as we look forward, we feel pretty good about the 12% -- base 12% to 17% EPS growth that we're guiding to next year. A significant part of that is the accretion from the synergy delivery. So we feel pretty good about where that's coming from and the contribution there. In terms of the EBIT performance of Berry or the performance generally, it was pretty similar to what Amcor saw. So you heard PK touch on the volume. And notwithstanding Berry doesn't have an exposure to the North American beverage business or doesn't. But outside of that, volumes were pretty similar to Amcor, down slightly, predominantly in North America. At the net income line, we were off about 4% or 5%, and that was -- I think that's a good proxy for where Berry was at.
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Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Jakob Cakarnis with Jarden Australia.
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Jakob Cakarnis
Analyst · Jarden Australia.
I just wanted to go to Slide 22, if I could, please. Michael, you might be able to help with this one. There's an adjustment to the statutory to adjusted EBIT. It says it's an inventory step-up amortization. It's on Note 2. Its value is $133 million. Could you just step me through what that is, please? Obviously, there's only a modest period for that included in fiscal '25. Can you just step me through how that might look also in '26, please?
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Michael John Casamento
Analyst · Jarden Australia.
Yes. Look, that's just the standard purchase profit accounting adjustment. That's all there is. It's for 2 months. It's all done. There's nothing further to come in, in '26. I guess the point I would say, as well, just remember that the opening balance sheet and the numbers that we put here, I mean it's -- the PPA is -- purchase price accounting is an estimate based on the information we have at time. And obviously, that does get updated or we can update that in the first 12 months. So I think all that does is brings that -- the particular entry you're referring to really just brings the inventory in line with market value. And that's a pretty standard adjustment that you're seeing particularly when you got a deal of this size.
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Operator
Operator
And that concludes our question-and-answer session. And I will now turn the conference back over to Peter for closing comments.
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Peter Konieczny
Analyst
Well, thank you, operator, and thank you, everybody, for joining us. I want to keep it maybe at the end, really simple here. We're pretty confident. I think we're moving pretty fast. We should not forget that we closed this acquisition in 5 months. We're 100 days into it now. And feel really good about the synergies. We've got some challenges that we're not proud of in North American beverage, but we're responding to it, and we're pretty confident about 12% of growth in fiscal '26. So look forward to the opportunity sitting down with you or many of you over the course of the quarter. Thank you very much, and that concludes the call.
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Operator
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's call, and you may now disconnect.