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Q3 2025 Earnings Call· Thu, Oct 30, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the AMETEK Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer, Kevin Coleman.

Kevin Coleman

Analyst

Thank you, Andrew. Good morning, and welcome to AMETEK's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. With me today are Dave Zapico, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Dalip Puri, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. During the course of today's call, we will be making forward-looking statements, which are subject to change based on various risk factors and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ significantly from expectations. A detailed discussion of the risks and uncertainties that may affect our future results is contained in AMETEK's filings with the SEC. AMETEK disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements. Any references made on this call to historical results will be on an adjusted basis, excluding after-tax, acquisition-related intangible amortization and excluding acquisition-related costs. Reconciliations between GAAP and adjusted measures can be found in our press release and on the Investors section of our website. We'll begin today's call with prepared remarks, and then we'll open it up for questions. I'll now turn the meeting over to Dave.

David Zapico

Analyst

Thank you, Kevin, and good morning, everyone. AMETEK delivered outstanding results in the third quarter with double-digit growth in sales, orders, operating profit and diluted earnings per share. Organic sales growth was strong in the quarter, leading to outstanding margin expansion and earnings well ahead of our expectations. Given these excellent results and our outlook for the remainder of the year, we are increasing our full year earnings guidance. Now let me turn to our third quarter financial results. Sales were a record $1.89 billion, an increase of 11% from the third quarter of 2024. Organic sales were up 4%, acquisitions added 6 points and foreign currency translation was a 1-point benefit. Orders were also very strong in the quarter with overall orders up 13% to a record $1.97 billion and organic orders up 7%, leading to a record backlog of $3.54 billion. Our operational performance in the quarter was excellent with strong margin expansion and double-digit earnings growth. Operating income in the quarter was a record $496 million, an 11% increase over the third quarter of 2024. Excluding the impact of recent acquisitions, margins were 27%, up 90 basis points versus the prior year. EBITDA in the quarter was a record $592 million, up 11% versus the prior year, with EBITDA margins an outstanding 31.3%. This operating performance led to record earnings of $1.89 per diluted share, up 14% versus the third quarter of 2024. Now let me provide some additional details at the group level. First, the Electronic Instruments Group. EIG delivered outstanding operating performance in the third quarter with strong margin expansion and operating margin levels that reflect the differentiated nature of our products and solutions. EIG sales were a record $1.25 billion, up 10% from last year's third quarter. Organic sales were flat. Acquisitions added 9…

Dalip Puri

Analyst

Thank you, Dave, and good morning, everyone. As Dave noted, AMETEK had an excellent third quarter with strong growth and outstanding operating performance. This allowed us to deliver several financial records as well as double-digit growth in orders, sales, operating income and earnings per share in the quarter. Now let me provide some additional financial highlights for the third quarter. Third quarter general and administrative expenses were $28 million or 1.5% of sales, essentially in line with last year's third quarter. Third quarter interest expense was $23 million. Third quarter other expense was $17.9 million, with the increase versus last year's third quarter primarily due to onetime acquisition-related costs for FARO Technologies. As I noted during our previous earnings conference call, we are excluding onetime acquisition-related costs from adjusted earnings. This approach will be consistently applied to future acquisitions, ensuring comparability and clarity in our non-GAAP financial reporting. The effective tax rate in the quarter was 17.2%, down from 18.8% in the third quarter of 2024. The reduction was driven by a lower effective international tax rate. For 2025, we now anticipate our effective tax rate to be between 18% and 18.5%. As we have stated in the past, actual quarterly tax rates can differ dramatically, either positively or negatively from this full year estimated rate. Capital expenditures in the third quarter were $21 million. We expect capital expenditures to be approximately $150 million for the full year or about 2% of sales. Depreciation and amortization expense in the quarter was $103 million. For the full year, we expect depreciation and amortization to be approximately $425 million, including after-tax acquisition-related intangible amortization of approximately $210 million or $0.91 per diluted share. Operating working capital in the third quarter was 18.9% of sales, a slight improvement from the third quarter of…

Kevin Coleman

Analyst

Thank you, Dalip. Andrew, could you please open the lines for questions?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Deane Dray with RBC Capital Markets.

Deane Dray

Analyst

That was really good earnings quality, cash flow and margins. So congrats to the team. Maybe we can start with the tour of your key platforms and regions and what stands out in particular. It looks like Paragon really had a strong quarter as well.

David Zapico

Analyst

Yes, Paragon did have another strong quarter. I'll take us the whole way around the horn, and I'll start with our Process market segment. Overall sales were up low teens in Process, driven by contributions from recent acquisitions with organic sales down just slightly in the quarter. We remain encouraged by the strong pipeline of activity across our process end markets. Although trade uncertainty continued to lead to slower decision-making and delays, as I talked about in my prepared remarks, there's very strong project activity and visibility is improving across some of our key markets. For the full year, we expect overall sales for our Process segment to be up mid- to high single digits and continue to expect organic sales to be flat to down low single. I'll go to A&D. Now Aerospace & Defense businesses. They just delivered another excellent quarter with overall organic sales increasing low double digits on a percentage basis. Growth remains strong and balanced across commercial OEM, aftermarket and defense markets, and our businesses continue to win content on new programs and expand content on a wide range of platforms. We continue to expect sales for our A&D businesses to be up high single digits for the year. Power & Industrial businesses delivered strong results in the third quarter with both overall and organic sales up mid-single digits. We have increased our outlook now and expect full year organic sales to be up low to mid-single digits for our Power & Industrial businesses. So we took that from -- we increased it a click to low to mid-single digits for Power. We're benefiting from demand across our grid modernization and electrification applications, including in support of the power build-out needed for AI data centers. And I'll talk about one product there. Our IntelliPower business…

Deane Dray

Analyst

That's a great update. Just last one, and it's related to the last point, Dave. Any comments about tariffs, the offset? And is that what's driving the softness in China as well?

David Zapico

Analyst

Yes. I'd say what's driving is the tariff renegotiation of price. So the tariffs need to be renegotiated. They need to be included in the pricing and our Chinese customers are going back to the government entities and getting higher prices to pay for our products, and that's causing a delay. And there's a lot of -- I can call it the tariff games in ship where they're trying to time the situation to get a lower price, lower tariff, but we're competitively very strong there. We're not -- our products that we sell are benefiting from -- there aren't viable competitors for most of the things we build. We make high margins when we sell there. So we're kind of -- we have good customers. We have a good team over there, and it's just going to be delayed, but we're solid on the long term.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Matt Summerville with D.A. Davidson.

Matt Summerville

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

I was wondering if you could maybe double-click a little bit on Paragon. Obviously, that business had been a little bit of a source of concern for some coming out of the gate with the whole medical destocking. So can you give a little bit more granularity on the type of organic sales performance and order growth you saw and kind of remind us how we should think about the go-forward organic algorithm for that business as well as maybe how it's trending from a profitability standpoint relative to what your view would have been when you bought it?

David Zapico

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

Excellent question, Matt. I mean just to remind everybody, Paragon, single-use and consumable surgical instruments and implantable components and attractive medtech markets with good long-term growth rates, very good long-term growth rates. So these are mid- to high single-digit long-term growth rates, growing markets, excellent engineering capability, numerous new product wins, which provide upside for years to come. And they just had another excellent quarter. I mean the EMG orders led the company, and they were substantially up and Paragon led EMG. So it was another quarter of just outstanding double-digit plus-plus orders. And we're in a situation now where we're probably about a little more than halfway done with the restructuring that we're doing. So that's happening, and there's some plant closures involved with that, and I don't want to get into a lot of details, but the cost structure is being reduced. And at the same time, all of that's happening. We're winning new programs and phasing them in, and we were out there about a month ago to see everything, and it's really going great. The margins are now in line with AMETEK's margins, and we think there's more upside. So we think this business is going to be a 35-plus EBITDA business. And when we're done working on it, which will take another year. But I couldn't be more pleased with what's going on with the deal. It outstanding work by the entire Paragon team. I hope some of you can get out there sometime because they're quite an impressive manufacturing facility that we visited last month, and we're very bullish, very bullish on what's happening at Paragon.

Matt Summerville

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

And then maybe just as a follow-up, you expressed, I think, a couple of times in your prepared remarks, a little more optimism with respect to process. Can you just peel back an additional layer and give a little bit more granularity on sort of end markets and whether or not you feel like there's a flush for lack of a better word, that's going to happen here as it relates to maybe some pent-up demand?

David Zapico

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

Yes. It's a very interesting dynamic and it's perceptive for you to pick up on that, Matt. I mean we looked at Process and Process improved just about everywhere sequentially on all the markets and all the geographies except China. So China was the one area that it didn't improve, and we got the tariff repricing negotiation going on. But everywhere else, it's on the right trend. So we're getting more visibility there. And I think that as that business comes back sometime in next year, we're really -- we have a business that's leveraged to succeed because the cost structure is really well controlled. The new product innovation is there. So on the upside, Process is going to have an excellent 2026, I think so.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Andrew Obin with Bank of America.

Andrew Obin

Analyst · Bank of America.

I think I was missing 3 slides on nuclear. Sorry for the joke. Can you just talk -- fantastic quarter. Can you just talk about strength in Europe? Can you just talk about the verticals and geographies? It was a nice surprise to hear that.

David Zapico

Analyst · Bank of America.

Yes. Our teams in Europe, it's pretty positive what's happening there. And we saw a couple of different places. I mean we saw an improvement at our Dunkermotoren business. So our Automation segment did extremely well. The Paragon elements of Europe did extremely well. Our Materials Analysis division that was selling analytical instruments to the research market did extremely well, and our Aerospace business was solid. So it just was -- it wasn't 1 or 2 things. It just always positive in Europe, and it led us in growth. It was up low double digits. So we're very happy to see that strength.

Andrew Obin

Analyst · Bank of America.

That's terrific. And maybe could you talk about order numbers was another positive surprise in the quarter. Can you just talk about the progression of the order patterns throughout the quarter? And frankly, what happened in October? Did you sustain the momentum into the year-end?

David Zapico

Analyst · Bank of America.

Right. Well, October is not over yet, but I'll give you the month-to-date. And -- but overall, it's a pretty simple story. September was the strongest month of the quarter and year. So strongest month of the quarter and year-to-date on both sales and orders. So we had a really good September indicative of momentum, as you suggested. And October isn't over, but it's very solid. I checked it before the meeting, and it's very solid. So it's -- we don't see a slowdown on the order side.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Chris Snyder with Morgan Stanley.

Christopher Snyder

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

I wanted to ask about the Q4 top line guide, up 10% but Q3 was up 11%. And I thought that we were going to see maybe more M&A contribution in Q4, which would then imply like an organic step back versus an easier comp. So I guess, am I just helping unpacking of the organic and the M&A and even, I guess, maybe the FX as we kind of build into that 10% number for Q4?

David Zapico

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Yes. I think that it's approximately 10% and we could do a little better, we can do a little worse, but we're certainly feeling confident. So I think the acquisitions are in there at a mid- to high single-digit number, and it gets to about 10%. But with some of the trade dynamics, we get a range on the earnings, but I think it's -- we feel very, very confident in Q4.

Christopher Snyder

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

I appreciate that. And then -- sorry...

Dalip Puri

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

I was just going to say that on the foreign exchange side, we're obviously a very global business, but we're primarily dollar-centric. So as a result, we're not expecting any foreign exchange impact on the top line in Q4 or on the bottom line. And as you've seen in the past quarters, we're very insulated from FX volatility. So that shouldn't be a factor.

Christopher Snyder

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Got it. I appreciate that. I wanted to ask about the Industrial & Power business, which showed better organic growth in Q3 and you guys raised the guide. Is this all data center power tied? Or are you seeing positive rate of change on more of the industrial kind of typically focused businesses?

David Zapico

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Yes, I'd say it's more the Power side. It's more the Power side. And the areas that we talked a little bit about, we're seeing backup power systems and microgrids and their solar racks and -- we also sell to the nuclear industry, and they're putting power systems in. So it's that backup power system business in the U.S. that's doing quite well. And the business that I highlighted last quarter, RTDS, they do the real-time simulations for resilient, high-performance power additions to the grid. So they're the company you go to when you want to expand your power, and they're working with the hyperscalers to define the new power additions that they have to put in to power the data center. So those are the 2 areas that we have most traction. The Industrial side of the business is solid. It's not a drag, but the upside is on the Power side. And keep in mind, Chris, we do have a decent sized part of that Power business that sells the traditional transmission and distribution infrastructure. So as the U.S. has to build out the T&D and you get some of the local microgrids, we're in a pretty good position to benefit from that.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Julian Mitchell with Barclays.

Julian Mitchell

Analyst · Barclays.

Maybe I'd start with the FARO business. And if you could help us understand kind of the progress there in terms of organic trends. I understand it's still in the sort of acquisition calculus, but maybe help us understand any movement there around sort of organic orders and sales and how you feel about that sort of trending into next year, please?

David Zapico

Analyst · Barclays.

Yes. Well, -- as you know, FARO wouldn't show up in our organic because we don't show up in organic until we've owned it for a year. So -- but FARO, they hit their number, and they hit their number on the top line and the bottom line and had a really good quarter. So that integration is doing well. We have a very good team at FARO. Just to remind you, FARO designs and develops 3D metrology and digital reality solutions. We're #1 or #2 in a bunch of niches in that market. And it's an excellent strategic fit with AMETEK and our Creaform business. So those teams are really getting after it, and they're working on some new products and working on some new channels, and I'm very optimistic about what they're going to be able to do. So it's all arrows are up right now in terms of the acquisition integration. I spent some time with the team. Dalip and I spent some time with the team just within the last couple of weeks. And it's -- we're very pleased with it. They won't show up in organic, but they did meet sales and they did meet their profit commitment for the quarter.

Julian Mitchell

Analyst · Barclays.

And then just my second question would be around, I guess, 2 parts. One is on the Process Industries side. I think it's still sluggish right now, but you sounded more optimistic on next year. So I just wondered if there's something you've seen turning in the orders in the Process Industries side. And secondly, in the U.S., good growth. I wondered if any government shutdown effects weighing in recent months.

David Zapico

Analyst · Barclays.

I'll take the government shutdown first. I mean, so far, to be honest, it hasn't been much of an issue for us. Obviously, if it continues for [indiscernible] or something, it might become a bigger issue. But it's really a nonevent at this point. You talked about Process orders. Yes, they're definitely trending up. Process orders are trending up in all areas and the one distinction was the China part of the business. And China is heavily part of it is research, too. So there's an academia research element to it and the China business. But in other areas, it's all trending up. And we have told you before, we have a good pipeline of new orders, and we'll make money when power and when the organic growth comes back because that business is powerful. You haven't followed us for a long time, but Process business is a powerful business. And so I don't know when it's going to turn up, but when it does, we've run it in the right way, and we keep investing in new products, and we've got the capability what our customers need, and it's going to eventually turn and be positive on the contribution margin basis for sure.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Rob Wertheimer with Melius Research.

Robert Wertheimer

Analyst · Melius Research.

You've touched on some of the dynamics here, but it's still a little bit interesting, the broad-based, I think you said growth across EMG versus EIG on core growth. And I wondered if you might simplify for us whether that's geographic, end market, selling cycle. Maybe just your thoughts on that gap, which is wider than some [indiscernible].

David Zapico

Analyst · Melius Research.

Yes. I think the biggest thing to understand, Rob, is you got to go back to the pandemic. And you had a supply chain crisis, and we have specialized products there and they're OEM products. They're not directly sold to the end user like they are in EIG. So it's mainly an EMG issue with specialized products. So everybody wanted to go out and get a bunch of products that put them on the shelf because they needed to supply their customers. So we had a period of 18%, 20% quarters in terms of orders. And now that -- then we went through a period of destock where people had some excess inventory and now the destocks in. So what you're seeing is that whole destock end is flowing through the EMG business, and it's showing up in places like Paragon. It's showing up in our EMIP businesses. It's showing up in our automation businesses. And also in that EMG group, we have our aerospace, part of our aerospace business there, and that business is going well. So all those businesses are kind of hitting on all cylinders, and that's why everything is up so high. So the one thing that's different, we didn't really have a destock in EIG. We had in EMG. Now we're working through that.

Robert Wertheimer

Analyst · Melius Research.

That was perfect. And then I just wanted a little mini teach-in on uninvitable power supply where you mentioned some of the crossover in data centers. I don't know how much business you had in data centers before and whether this is a fully nimble shift to capitalize or some of that, but a little bit less. I'll stop there.

David Zapico

Analyst · Melius Research.

Yes. I mean we have, I'll call it, hundreds of millions of dollars in uninterruptible UPS systems. And they're sold to places like nuclear power plants or offshore oil and gas wells or the most difficult applications that you can go into where you cannot fail. And that business has been a good business for us for a long period of time. We have one product that's used on -- usually -- it's basically used on every part of the naval fleet, very industrialized rack mount product. And what we did is we took that product and I don't want to say dummy it down, but we made it work for the data center market. So it's -- they want mission-critical. They want those kind of applications. So we're finding some applications where data centers want to buy the best. They want to find the most -- they need a product that's more durable. And I think on that product, we have a backlog of -- it's not a tremendous amount. It's north of $25 million and a pipeline of another $30 million, something like that. So that's for that product. And we have another product in the RTDS space for the simulation systems. So we have some places that we're going to be able to play now where they're willing to pay for our technology. And our teams have got -- done a good job of identifying attractive opportunities to expand in current technologies while staying true to the AMETEK differentiated technology, because we think in the long run, we don't want to sell things that are -- end up being low margin where you have perfect competition and no one makes money. So it's a low base we have now, but very high growth in that segment.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Andrew Buscaglia with BNP.

Andrew Buscaglia

Analyst · BNP.

So some of your positive commentary is very interesting. Some companies are still talking about just like kind of customer hesitation to spend and ongoing delays, especially in Automation. So maybe like what are your conversations with customers like that seem to be a little bit different or where you're seeing a little more confidence? Yes, but just could you talk a little bit more about that and elaborate?

David Zapico

Analyst · BNP.

Yes. I mean the automation market has been historically a great market for AMETEK, and we pick and choose our customers. These are people that pay for our performance. And there was a slowdown in the market driven by the pandemic effect and the supply chain crisis and the buying. We kind of talked about this for several quarters when we predicted it. So we kind of called bottom last quarter, talked about it a couple of quarters. So it's kind of expected for us. So I really can't comment on what's going on in other areas. I'm not sure I'd have to look at that stuff. And -- but what I know is it kind of played out as we thought it would, and we're on record talking about it, too. So it's pretty much what we thought it was going to happen.

Andrew Buscaglia

Analyst · BNP.

I guess that's more like your customers are probably comfortable with getting more comfortable with the tariff situation and at least have some -- we have some more clarity relative to 6 months ago maybe.

David Zapico

Analyst · BNP.

I think that's true, Andrew. I think that's true.

Andrew Buscaglia

Analyst · BNP.

Okay. Yes. Interesting. I don't know if you said or you mentioned your price versus cost or how that shook out this quarter?

David Zapico

Analyst · BNP.

Yes. Pricing offset inflation and tariffs. So we're very happy with that. So our price offset total inflation and tariffs, and we had a positive spread on top of that. So we have a highly differentiated nature of the AMETEK product portfolio. We have leadership in these niche markets around the globe. And as we talked about today, these are mission-critical products. That's the nature of our products, and we invest a lot in R&D, and we're doing a good job of servicing our customers and at the same time, offsetting some of the negative events of -- from inflation and tariffs and with a positive spread.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Nigel Coe with Wolfe Research.

Nigel Coe

Analyst · Wolfe Research.

I wanted to just dig into the Automation. I think you called out high single-digit organic growth there, David. Obviously, the comps there are quite easy, but it's still quite strong growth. So I'm actually wondering, could you maybe just parse out what you're seeing? I mean, I think a lot of that's in Europe, inventory adjustments versus end market demand? Any end market color, customer demand would be really helpful.

David Zapico

Analyst · Wolfe Research.

Yes. We talked about several quarters how the European market was lagging. We talked about how we had an incredibly strong position with German machine builders. We talked about the situation. It was just a matter of time. And I think it's just changing. I mean the one thing that would be different for us is we've talked about before, when a lot of people talk about automation, you have to make a distinction between discrete automation and process automation, okay? So you're doing factory automation, I'll call it. We play in the factory automation, but that's not our largest market. We're really in discrete automation where you have to move things very quickly and very precisely. So all the precision machines that are doing things in the different end markets, they have to be very precise. That's our sweet spot. And there's a certain set of customers there that we deal with. It's the medical customers. It's very precise research equipment. It's very -- it's like the S&P 500 in terms of the end markets, but it's the most precise equipment, and it's mainly discrete automation. So we may be seeing -- the factory automation may still be slower and discrete automation as a subset or as a distinct niche for us is strong. And we have kind of the best products there. And those customers are coming back, and we had a great performance this month, and we were coming off the bottom there with some of the destock. So I take your point that it's an easy comp, but it is what it is.

Nigel Coe

Analyst · Wolfe Research.

Yes, yes. I think I was trying to dig into is -- sorry, how much is just destock comps, easy comps versus a real inflection in customer demand. I'm not sure if you've actually got the sell-through data there. But my second question is really around the EMG margins. Obviously, really great momentum there, 25%. It's pretty close to where EMG margins have peaked in the past. But with Paragon, where do you think that sort of margin objective or target might be for EMG going forward?

David Zapico

Analyst · Wolfe Research.

I think Paragon gives us the opportunity to increase it further. And when we sit down and we talk about that business, we'll set a target for next year. But certainly, I would expect we have the capability to have record margins in EMG going forward.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Robert Jamieson with Vertical Research.

Robert Jamieson

Analyst · Vertical Research.

Congrats on the quarter today. Just want to get your overall view on overall short-cycle exposure. Last quarter, you talked about short cycle bottoming. Just curious how you're thinking about this as we head into next year, what you saw in the quarter and what you're seeing so far in early 4Q?

David Zapico

Analyst · Vertical Research.

Yes. Yes. When we talk about our business, we're more of a mid-cycle than short cycle, just maybe a little change in just to make sure we're on the same page. But yes, I think this is a result of the pandemic, the supply chain crisis, and I think that we're in an upward trend now. I think it's still early to talk about next year, but these automation, these EMG areas and MedTech, they're solid and Aero & Defense remains strong. So it feels really good on some of these businesses with solid positions, and we are winning businesses. We are winning new share for these businesses. So EMG is kind of firing on all cylinders now. So...

Robert Jamieson

Analyst · Vertical Research.

Great. And then I just wondered with a lot of capacity, just can we get an update on the M&A pipeline? Anything that you -- areas that you're particularly interested in? Anything like that would be helpful.

David Zapico

Analyst · Vertical Research.

Our pipeline remains very strong. We're actively looking at a number of high-quality deals. We have the -- Dalip talked about our capacity to fund them. It's strong. We remain disciplined looking at our returns on capital. We've done it for a long period of time, and it's -- there's no change in that. The pipeline includes a variety of deals, and there are different deal sizes, and they're in different end markets or all end markets that we're in now, though. And our teams are as active as they've ever been working on deals. And I really think that we have the opportunity to differentiate our performance with the M&A element of our growth strategy, combined with our balance sheet and cash flow positions. And it's a good time for us. When you combine our operational excellence capability and our M&A capability, I'm looking to use those 2 factors to drive performance over the next couple of years.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Joseph Giordano with TD Cowen.

Michael Anastasiou

Analyst · TD Cowen.

This is Michael on for Joe. So I wanted to unpack the A&D performance. Previously, you mentioned high single-digit organic in the quarter, related content growth in that area. Is that content growth mainly related to FARO? And then can you just maybe unpack for us expectations for a normalized growth range for A&D going forward? You had several years, whether it's on the EIG side or EMG side of high single-digit growth. So just trying to understand how to map that going forward.

David Zapico

Analyst · TD Cowen.

Yes. First of all, FARO is not in the A&D segment. So 0 contributes to the A&D performance. The other thing is in the quarter, organically, we're up low double digits. So not -- but for the year, we're continuing to confirm high single digits. And in the quarter, the thing about me the truck, it was balanced. I mean we had -- commercial OEM was very strong. We had aftermarket was very strong. The defense markets were very strong, and we're continuing to win content on programs to expand where we're going in the future. So we're not talking about next year right now. But when I think about the Aerospace group, when I think about the Aerospace business, when I think about the Aerospace team, their backlog remains strong, and they have strong positions on key programs. So it looks optimistic.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Scott Graham with Seaport Research.

Scott Graham

Analyst · Seaport Research.

Congratulations on the quarter, Dave. I wanted to maybe step back in 40,000 foot this. And I know when you came on board back 8 years ago, one of the big things that you were going to champion was an improvement in the front end and the top line focus as opposed to what has historically been more of a kind of margin lean, let's put it that way. I know you've done a lot of things internally, but it's been sort of an up and down industrial environment. So I was just hoping you indicated just now you won some business I know A&D has been a good market for you since that time. But again, Industrial, other areas have been up and down. Would you see now that winning of business starting to spread out into other end markets given the work that's been done on top line initiatives on a going-forward basis as the industrial economy improves?

David Zapico

Analyst · Seaport Research.

It's an interesting point. If you had a couple of years of below 50 PMIs, and I don't remember the last time that happened. I think I was at an investor conference and he told me it never happened. So -- and I think that we're extremely well positioned for growth, and it's across all of our businesses. So I'd say as the industrial economy picks up and you recover from having negative PMI for basically 2, 2.5 years. I think you'll see some improvements. The other thing I'd point you to is I've been CEO, I've been with AMETEK for 35 years. I've been with CEO for 9 years. And over those 9 years, we've averaged a 4% organic growth. So this quarter right now, when you have 4% organic growth, you have double digit on the top line, you have double-digit orders, you have double-digit earnings. That's pretty much what we've done for the last 9 or 10 years. And if you go back, it's further than that. So we're -- we have a model. It's consistent. We have a great team working on it. And I do think that we're going to participate in a greater way in terms of organic growth as the industrial economy improves.

Operator

Operator

I'll now hand the call back over to Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer, Kevin Coleman, for any closing remarks.

Kevin Coleman

Analyst

Thank you again, Andrew, and thanks, everyone, for joining our call today. And as a reminder, a replay of the webcast can be accessed in the Investors section of ametek.com. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

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