Jay Horgen
Analyst · Autonomous Research. Please proceed with your question.
Yes. Well, I'm going to end with prospecting, but I'll maybe take it at the most fundamental level. Obviously, at the individual security level with banks, there's an opportunity for fundamental differentiated active managers to make discerning choices, which really then brings me to a broader point, which is at the market level, the impact of markets. We have seen alpha in liquid alts strategies, and we've seen differentiated returns in our active equity strategy. So I think this is an environment -- this is symptomatic of an environment where you're seeing alpha. And that's really good for independent partner-owned firms because they have a strategic advantage relative to consolidated employee-based organizations, in my opinion. So then I would say, maybe taking it at a structural perspective, nonbank asset management has been a decade-long trend. And I think what's happening in banks today might accelerate even those -- that nonbank asset management functions. We've seen it in a range of areas, most notably, and the one that people talk about today are -- is the direct lending area. So -- but there are many other areas that nonbank kind of asset management has filled the spot of where banks used to, either on the asset side or even on the consulting side really helped, I guess, call it, Main Street America. And so we're seeing that trend in new to business starts, new capital formed within the asset management industry, and we're focused on these long-term secular trends. That's kind of one of the reasons why I get to the last point, which is new investments. It's clearly benefited from disruption in markets because, generally speaking, it means that people are leaving -- it's not necessarily banks divesting. It's just people -- high-quality people leaving the banks and starting asset management or joining independent firms. So it's really a human capital point that I'm making here, which is we do think that independent partner-owned firms are the best place to find human capital. It's where alpha is created in our minds. And therefore, we are excited about AMG's opportunity to participate. And as I said in my prepared remarks, we are uniquely advantaged because you can invest in AMG, and that's investing in a diversified array of independent high-quality alpha-oriented organizations. Thanks, Patrick, for your question.