Operator
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the AMSC Second Quarter Fiscal 2023 Financial Results Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this event is being recorded. I'd like to turn the call over to Mr. John Heilshorn. LHA. Please go ahead.
American Superconductor Corporation (AMSC)
Q2 2023 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 2, 2023
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Operator
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the AMSC Second Quarter Fiscal 2023 Financial Results Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this event is being recorded. I'd like to turn the call over to Mr. John Heilshorn. LHA. Please go ahead.
John Heilshorn
Analyst
Thank you, Nick. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to American Superconductor Corporation's Second Quarter of Fiscal 2023 Earnings Conference Call. I am John Heilshorn of LHA Investor Relations, AMSC's Investor Relations agency of record. With us on today's call are Daniel McGahn, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and John Kosiba, Senior Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. American Superconductor issued its earnings release for the second quarter of fiscal 2023 yesterday after the market closed. For those of you who have not yet seen the release, a copy is available in the Investors page of the company's website at www.amsc.com. Before starting the call, I'd like to remind you that various remarks that management may make during today's call about American Superconductor's future expectations, including expectations regarding the company's third quarter of fiscal 2023 financial performance, plans and prospects constitute forward-looking statements for purposes of the safe harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by such forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those set forth in the Risk Factors section of American Superconductor's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended March 31, 2023, which the company filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on May 31, 2023, and the company's other reports filed with the SEC. These forward-looking statements represent management's expectations only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing management's views as of any date subsequent to today. While the company anticipates that subsequent events and developments may cause the company's views to change, the company specifically disclaims any obligation to update these forward-looking statements. Also on today's call, management will refer to non-GAAP net income loss, which are non-GAAP financial measures. The company believes that non-GAAP net income loss assist management and investors in comparing to the company's performance across reporting periods on a consistent basis by excluding these noncash, nonrecurring or other charges, and it does not believe are indicative of its core operating performance. The reconciliation of GAAP net loss to GAAP net profit -- net income loss can be found on the second quarter of fiscal 2023 earnings press release that the company issued and furnished to the SEC last night on Form 8-K. All of the American Superconductor's press releases and SEC filings can be accessed from the Investors page of its website at www.amsc.com. With that, I will now turn the call over to Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, Daniel McGahn. Daniel?
Daniel McGahn
Analyst
Thanks, John, and good morning, everyone. I'll begin today by providing an update and sharing a few remarks on our business, John Kosiba will then provide a detailed review of our financial results for the second fiscal quarter, which ended September 30, 2023, and provide guidance for the third fiscal quarter, which will end December 31, 2023. Following our comments, we'll open up the line to questions from our analysts. Several quarters ago, we discussed possible business performance scenarios that could lead to increased shareholder value. We discussed revenue growth, margin expansion and expense control as factors driving potential cash breakeven and cash generating scenarios. Our second quarter results stand as proof that this can be done. For the second quarter of fiscal 2023, we generated a modest non-GAAP net income. We had positive operating cash flow. We showed expanded gross margins, we showed higher revenue, and we delivered another quarter of strong orders. All signs this quarter are quite positive. I believe we are ahead of schedule. Total revenues for the second quarter of fiscal year 2023 exceeded our expectations and came in above our guidance range. Our second quarter revenue of $34 million, was driven primarily by strong new energy power system shipments. Our grid segment revenue for the second quarter accounted for over 80% of AMSC's total revenue and grew over 10% versus the year ago period. The remainder of the revenue came from our wind business, which also grew significantly as a percentage from a year ago. We had very strong bookings in the second quarter with both new and existing customers for our products. We announced a near record $37 million of new energy power systems orders in October and have a strong 12-month backlog of over $128 million. Our backlog grew nearly 30% versus…
John Kosiba
Analyst
Thanks, Daniel, and good morning, everyone. I'd like to start off by saying I'm pleased with our second quarter results. As many of you may recall from our investor call back in the third quarter of fiscal [ 2020-'22 ], I mentioned we had taken several strategic steps to lower our overhead cost structure. In addition to our revenue growth, these steps have clearly paid off. I also elaborated that, as we moved into fiscal 2023, there would be several scenarios where cash gross margins could approach 25% and operating cash flow breakeven could be achieved as revenue approached $35 million in a quarter. I am pleased to report that in the second quarter, we reported gross margins of 25% and generated $900,000 of operating cash flow. AMSC generated revenues of $34 million for the second quarter of fiscal 2023 compared to $27.7 million in the year ago quarter. Our grid business unit accounted for 84% of total revenues, while our wind business unit accounted for 16%. Grid business unit revenues increased 11% in the second quarter versus the year ago quarter and wind business unit revenues increased 177% over that same time period as we are shipping more ECS to our India wind licensee. Looking at the P&L in more detail. Gross margin for the second quarter of fiscal 2023 was 25% compared to 7% in the year ago quarter. Gross margin for this quarter was favorably impacted by increased revenues and a favorable product mix driven by revenue growth across our most profitable product lines. Additionally, increased service and spares revenue had a meaningful impact on gross margins in the quarter. And lastly, the price increases we implemented over a year ago are starting to work their way through our backlog and had a favorable impact on our…
Daniel McGahn
Analyst
Thanks, John. Strong market demand from industrials, renewables and utilities drove orders for our second quarter of fiscal year 2023. We see government mandates as well as federal policies, such as the Inflation Reduction Act, supporting fossil fuel retirement, renewables growth and electric vehicle sector developments. In calendar year 2022, renewable energy generation, including hydropower, exceeded coal-fired power. During the first half of this calendar year 2023, data shows that wind and solar power produced more U.S. power than traditional coal. We see power generation from coal progressively declining and being replaced by natural gas and renewables. We see opportunities for our products and services as utilities address the addition of distributed power generation into the electric grid. Recently, the U.S. retired nearly 14 gigawatts of coal capacity, nearly 7% of the coal fleet since 2022. Nearly 2/3 of fossil fuel-fired electricity generation capacity is expected to cease by 2035. Solar, wind and natural gas made up more than 90% of the capacity added to the U.S. electric grid in 2021. Investment in clean energy sources in 2021 increased by 10% from the prior year to about $50 billion and was estimated to grow by 16% to nearly $60 billion in 2022. The market drivers for a low-carbon economy and a modern, reliable and secure power grid are in our favor. Our applications help harmonize the world's desire for decarbonization and clean energy with the need for more reliable, effective and efficient power delivery. That's why we believe to be well positioned for the longer term. We have a robust pipeline of opportunities, thanks to strong market demand, and we are aggressively going after those opportunities. We are committed to the continued diversification of our business, expanding our scale and reach domestically and internationally and investing in resilient markets that…
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] First question will be from Colin Rusch of Oppenheimer.
Colin Rusch
Analyst
Congrats on the progress here. It's great to see you guys delivering on the cash flow metrics. Can you talk a little bit about where you're winning and how you're winning on the grid side and the cadence of orders? And then the follow-up question, I'll just hop back in the queue after this, is really around your ability to start rolling through lower component costs and potentially lower in working capital as you move forward, given some of the rebalancing on supply chain?
Daniel McGahn
Analyst
Thanks for the compliment, Colin. So we're winning on -- with utilities, we're winning with mines, we're winning with things for EV, we're winning big in semiconductor. I mentioned multiple customers. It's the first time I've said that. We continue to win in renewables. So it's really across the board. We've tried to build this robust, diverse, sustainable business, and we feel like it's now fully been built and we've been able to demonstrate it. John telegraphed back a few quarters that this was possible. And I think that we're here probably earlier than we thought. So the business is really, really performing even much better than we had anticipated. Do you want to take his other question?
John Kosiba
Analyst
Colin, can you repeat the second question? I didn't quite fully understand it entirely. I think you were asking something about component cost as it's drop and how it could impact working capital? We haven't quite seen -- I wouldn't say we've seen component costs drop yet. I think we have stabilized. I think what we're hoping is that we've got a nice stable supply chain, one, with lead times are starting to come down and prices are stable. As prices come down, that might change. As far as working capital, I don't see how that changes for us as much. Remember, our business is highly tied to milestone billings. So our working capital tends to be funded from our orders based on the milestone bill and schedule. But we can take this offline if you have any further questions.
Daniel McGahn
Analyst
Yes. I think the key point is more -- we're focused more on trying to control lead times, so our customers can get their projects started on time. That's really been the focus of the team, and we're seeing some benefits there.
Operator
Operator
Next question will be from Eric Stine of Craig-Hallum.
Eric Stine
Analyst
So maybe I'll just touch on margins you laid out. I mean, great to see the improvement. I'll second that. You laid out some of the reasons mix in other areas for that improvement. But could you maybe just drill down, I mean, should we look at this as evidence that you're finally through the Neeltran backlog, the low-price backlog that, that's kind of a thing in the past. I mean is this a level, plus or minus that we should view as sustainable?
Daniel McGahn
Analyst
I'll answer the sustainable part. I mean given the guide, clearly, we're guiding to potentially increased revenues and increased operating cash flow. So when you look at the backlog, the backlog is the thing that's really given us the confidence there. We'll be able to sustain about this revenue level for the next 12 months. We're looking to get new orders into 2024, which hopefully will help be able to add additional growth on top of that. So we're very bullish on what the business looks like, obviously, for next quarter and beyond. But we're really only guiding out the 1 quarter in time as we eventually do.
Eric Stine
Analyst
Yes. Understood. But that bullishness extends to margins, right, just to confirm?
John Kosiba
Analyst
Yes. I mean -- so we don't guide to margins, so I want to be careful on that. But I will say -- what I will say is that if you look at what I explained for the gross margins, one of them is we had a -- we're starting to see the impact of our price increases. Well, that's kind of -- in theory, that's going to continue. We did have a very strong service revenue this quarter. We put a lot of efforts to do that. That wasn't by accident. So to the extent we can continue to deliver on a strong service component of our total revenue, that's going to help our margins as we move forward. And then lastly, as our margins overall, our product mix changes, we are seeing strength in our best-performing product lines. So to the extent we can do that, we're going to continue to see strong gross margins. To comment on your Neeltran, surely, as we shift off that backlog, that surely is having an impact on our margin growth.
Daniel McGahn
Analyst
I think, though, Eric, to be very blunt with you, we're going to stop talking about either the acquisitions. They've been integrated, they're working. Everything is behind us that we have. We really like the business, how it sits today, how it complements each other. We like the constituent components and the team is now selling everything as a full solution. So I think that mission accomplished with trying to get both of these pieces of the business becoming part of the main part of the business. So going forward, we're really just focused on how do we grow grid, how do we help continue to support our wind customers. And hopefully, we'll see some wins in the future as well on the Navy side and more cities for REG for sure.
Eric Stine
Analyst
Okay. That's helpful. And maybe last one for me, just on wind. Obviously, another good quarter. I think last quarter, you had talked about that the -- that this is maybe a level to expect for the next several quarters and that the next step would come when you start to get ECS orders for the 3-megawatt platform from Inox. Is that still the way that we should think about things here going forward, both near term and then longer term?
Daniel McGahn
Analyst
Yes. I think if you continue to see the orders come from Inox, you see steps forward, not backwards. You see the potential for growth. They were very positive on their most recent call about where they are with the 3-megawatt platform. They seem highly excited about it, probably even more than they were 3 months ago. So we will work with our constituency, including you, you'll see, if we get orders, we'll certainly look to announce them or mention them on calls or what have you because we know they're important to people seeing progress. But yes, we are at a different level in wind. And then given, again, with the backlog, it's able to support the overall business, as I said earlier.
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Next question will be from Justin Clare, ROTH MKM.
Justin Clare
Analyst
So I guess the first one I wanted to ask about is you did talk about the gross margins, where if you're at a level of, say, $35 million in revenue, 25% margins are an expectation or a reasonable expectation. As you move to higher levels of revenue, if you get to 40% or above, can your gross margin continue to expand in that type of scenario?
Daniel McGahn
Analyst
Absolutely. That's -- we're trying to get leverage. We want to drive the top line disproportionately to the cost line. So we think there's a great deal of leverage in the business. We haven't put out just on any numbers. We've kind of put this out. John has mentioned in the time period of it, it wasn't that long ago. And we've been able to make that. I know probably people are going to now say, well, what's next and where do you go? I think the overall probably theme what you guys are after is the sustainability. And I think it's in the backlog. The pricing is there. We're doing a great job on the service side. We've been able to see robust revenue across the product line. So we're very happy and very pleased with where we are, and I believe where we're going to go next.
Justin Clare
Analyst
Got it. Okay. And then you got strong bookings in Q2 here. I was wondering if you could talk about the trend that you're seeing in project sizes that you can supply and then also the content per project and that ability to cross-sell between the different various product offerings that you have. If you could speak to that, that would be helpful.
Daniel McGahn
Analyst
Sure. You're kind of lead and cause and effect. So we're now selling more content for project, which means the revenue for a project is going up, and that's part of the strategy and the leverage of selling the different products together as a complete solution. So that's working out very nicely. And we've seen it very specifically in semi, we've seen some in renewables, we've certainly seen it in the mining and the materials as well as kind of general industrial. So we feel we're a very different business today than we were. We've talked about getting there. Now I feel like we're there, and we want to go and continue to do more and more in the future.
Justin Clare
Analyst
Okay. And then just one more, shifting gears to wind. And it might be a little bit early for this one. But Inox was talking about that their 3-megawatt turbine is a more profitable turbine than the 2-megawatt. So I was wondering if there is an opportunity there for you to potentially have a better margin profile for the 3 versus the 2 if your customer is capturing greater value for the product that you're providing?
Daniel McGahn
Analyst
Yes. With respect to our customer, we don't talk and break out margin by product line. I'm certainly not going to break it up by customers. So I don't want to offend you, Justin, but I'm just not going to answer.
Operator
Operator
That ends the question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the call back over to Mr. Daniel McGahn for closing remarks.
Daniel McGahn
Analyst
Great. I think we're at a whole new place here, guys. We said that we were nominally positive with non-GAAP. I'm not an accountant to break through what all that means with GAAP and non-GAAP. But the good news is, John predicted it, the business has delivered it. It's a result that we haven't been able to do since back in 2010. This is a huge, huge, huge milestone for the company. Most of you investors that have been with us for a long time have always asked me when this going to happen? We've always talked about how. And then as I said, John telegraphed how, and now we've delivered it. So we think onward and upward, the backlog really is strong, the pipeline is very strong. There's a lot of diversity. There's a strong move in the world to decarbonization, and we're really right at the center of it, and we hope to benefit from it. So thank you all for your support, your attention and look forward to getting back to you in about 3 months' time. Thank you, everyone.
Operator
Operator
Thank you. The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.