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Angel Oak Mortgage, Inc. (AOMR)

Q1 2025 Earnings Call· Mon, May 5, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Angel Oak Mortgage REIT First Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. KC Kelleher. Please go ahead.

KC Kelleher

Analyst

Good morning. Thank you for joining us today for Angel Oak Mortgage REIT's First Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. This morning, we filed our press release detailing these results, which is available in the Investors section on our website at www.angeloakreit.com. As a reminder, remarks made on today's conference call may include forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed today. We do not undertake any obligation to update our forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events. For a more detailed discussion of the factors that may affect the company's results, please refer to our earnings release for this quarter and to our most recent SEC filings. During this call, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures. More information about these non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are contained in our earnings release and SEC filings. This morning's conference call is hosted by Angel Oak Mortgage REIT's Chief Executive Officer; Sreeni Prabhu; and Chief Financial Officer, Brandon Filson. Management will make some prepared comments, after which we will open up the call to your questions. Additionally, we recommend reviewing our earnings supplement posted on our website, www.angelokereit.com. Now I'll turn the call over to Sreeni.

Sreeni Prabhu

Analyst

Thank you, KC, and thank you all for joining us today. Our performance in the first quarter of 2025 was highlighted by continued net interest margin growth driven by accretive newly originated loan purchases, maintained operating expense savings and valuation tailwinds that buoyed book value growth compared to the end of 2024. Cash flow and dividend coverage continued to expand as a result of our disciplined and value-driven operating model, which enables us to grow the earnings power of the portfolio even in periods of sustained market volatility. Our priority is to drive long-term earnings accretion through our focused operational strategy while appropriately managing risk. While we did not execute a securitization in the first quarter, we were the sole participant in the AOMT 2025-4 securitization, which we closed shortly after quarter end, and has provided us with capital to continue to purchase new loans and reduce some repurchased debt associated with our retained bond portfolio, both of which should drive incremental net interest income in the coming quarters. Despite uncertainty surrounding international trade and tariff activity beginning the end of the first quarter, the foundation of our business model continues to be supportive and we expect to continue the earnings growth trajectory established over the course of the past 1.5 years. Interest rates have declined meaningfully from the end of 2024, though the positive impact has likely been at least partially offset by previously mentioned international trade uncertainty, which has widened interest rate spreads. Mortgage rates have been stable as we continued to see our non-QM loan originations in the mid to high 7% range. Overall, securitization markets have been resilient with a deep pool of market participants willing to participate in the market. That being said, there have been some variation in execution levels in terms of spreads depending on the timing with data points and/or trade announcements. We have ample opportunities for us to recycle capital and continue growing our target asset portfolio. Our capital deployment strategy will remain adaptive and flexible aligning with evolving market dynamics in order to maximize expected shareholder returns. With regards to capital raises, we will remain flexible and we'll continue to evaluate opportunities from perspective of earnings and value accretion over near and long term as reflected by our accretive senior unsecured note issuances last year. As we move forward, our focus remains on executing in line with our earnings-generating model and delivering positive outcomes for shareholders, while positioning our balance sheet to be active buyer of high-quality non-QM loans. With that, I'll turn it over to Brandon who will walk us through our first quarter financial performance in greater detail.

Brandon Filson

Analyst

Thank you, Sreeni. First quarter operating results were in line with expectations and continued our established earnings growth trend as we saw 18% net interest income growth versus the first quarter of 2024 and over 2% net interest income growth compared to the fourth quarter of 2024. Operating expenses, excluding securitization costs, stock compensation expense were $1.1 million or 29% lower than in the first quarter of 2024 and represent a $300,000 decrease compared to the fourth quarter of 2024. As Sreeni mentioned, valuations were a tailwind during the first quarter as rates came down relative to the end of 2024. The valuation increase was primarily observed in the loans underlying our 2021 and 2022 on-balance sheet securitization. As of today, we expect that our book value is approximately flat compared to the end of the first quarter as decreases in base rates work to offset slight widening of spreads. For the first quarter of 2025, we had GAAP net income of $20.5 million or $0.87 per diluted common share. Distributable earnings for the first quarter were $4.1 million or $0.17 per diluted common share. The driver of the difference between GAAP net income and distributable earnings is a removal of unrealized gains, primarily on our securitized and unsecuritized loan portfolios. In the first quarter, we had $18.7 million of unrealized gains on our securitized and residential loan portfolios. Interest income for the first quarter was $32.9 million and net interest income was $10.1 million, marking a 30% improvement in interest income and an 18% improvement in net interest income compared to the first quarter of 2024. Compared to the fourth quarter of 2024, interest income increased by 3% and net interest income increased by over 2%. We expect interest income to continue to grow as we purchase accretive loans,…

Sreeni Prabhu

Analyst

Thank you, Brandon. Additionally, and as many of you know, we were pleased to have recently announced a strategic partnership between Brookfield Asset Management and Angel Oak companies. We are excited for the new growth and innovation opportunities that this partnership can provide across the Angel Oak platform. We do not expect any material changes to the day-to-day management of AOMR as a result of this transaction. I would like to thank the entire Angel Oak team for their hard work towards building what we believe is the best non-QM loan origination purchase and securitization platform by focusing on diligent credit selection, consistent securitization execution and value-driven decision-making. We look forward to continuing to build long-term value for our shareholders in the coming quarters and years. With that, we'll open up the call to questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Doug Harter with UBS. Please go ahead.

Douglas Harter

Analyst

Thanks, and good morning. I was hoping you could talk a little bit about the securitization you did in April, kind of how -- kind of what the execution of that looked like in the volatility and how that impacted the returns on that versus some of the more recent deals you did?

Brandon Filson

Analyst

Yes. Hey, good morning, Doug. Yes, we issued that securitization out right in some of the volatility. We still got good execution because if you looked back, I think, to where we were before, treasury rates were a bit higher than where we issued. We did have to widen out the spread on the AAA really to get it done to like 180 over. That's now tightened back up if we were to do it again today. But all in all, I think it was a good deal for us and probably just not -- we've talked every kind of quarter about 15% to 20% expected securitization yield, that one is probably now like a 13% to 17% yield, depending on how long things stay outstanding, but still very accretive and freed up the capital for us to continue buying newer loans, which have been relatively stable in terms of coupon up a little higher than maybe we were purchasing over the last quarter. So more like high 7s recently in terms of locks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Randy Binner with B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Randy Binner

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning. Thanks. I had a couple. So I guess picking up on the comments about prepayment speeds and the securitizations, just kind of like on a headline basis, is that -- is it -- would mortgage rates have to be like 5% before that's an issue? Just like I'm kind of looking for a less technical explanation, but is that the kind of the margin you have versus where mortgage rates traveling closer to 7% today is?

Brandon Filson

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Yes, I would think there would be -- we kind of have a very barbelled securitized loan portfolio. We've got the 5.5% under portfolio that was post IPO and then through kind of 2023 vintage, 2024, 2025, those are 7.5-plus percent coupon. The earlier deals that are in the 5s were 200 basis points of moves away on mortgage rates to where you'll probably see some speeds click up. And I'd say the current coupon, yes, you're probably 100 basis points to see a meaningful increase. But then just to remind you, our portfolio-wide prepayment speed right now is about a 10 CPR. When we do our modeled returns, and historically, non-QM has been -- would prepay in like the 25% to 30% level. So we still have a bit of room for speeds to increase and still have good results.

Randy Binner

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Got it. And then I had another one, I think this is for Sreeni. Just some commentary about the securitization market being good, but maybe variation in execution and conditions, I guess, when there's like off days for the market. Just wondering if I heard that correctly. I mean, it makes sense intuitively, but did that affect you kind of just doing one large and good deal looking back because the market volatility kind of started in early April and this one got done, I think, kind of in the first part of April. But yes, just curious kind of how that is day by day just to understand how the macro is affecting that.

Sreeni Prabhu

Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Yes. I mean across the year, you always have these bouts of volatility. So you look for two things, one is the cost of execution and then the second one is absolute illiquidity. And what we saw, even with a lot of the tariff issues and volatility in equity markets and the bond markets, there was no illiquidity. So that's number one, right? We could at least do our securitization. So it was not like, hey, we cannot get anything done and the liquidity has dried up. And what we have to do is we have to be consistent in terms of execution. It's all risk management, right? So the question at that point we have is do we widen our spreads to see where execution happens or do we take the securitization back? And what we have talked to the investment community consistently is we want to be prudent risk managers. So one of the things you want to do at that point is see where the liquidity is, where the spreads are and execute. So spreads probably went from 130, 135 beginning of the year all the way to the first quarter and we were printing -- we printed that deal at 180. Spreads have now tightened in the 160s, probably could be even in the 150. So stuff moves. There was a lot of pain probably for the first two weeks of April. But what I would tell you is that not just us or even our peers, the capital markets were open and that was the most important thing. I hope that answers the question. A - Randy Binner Yes. That’s perfect. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Matthew Erdner with JonesTrading. Please go ahead.

Matthew Erdner

Analyst · JonesTrading. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Could you talk a little bit about loan purchases post securitization? And if you've seen any difference in the market there? And then kind of as a follow-up to that, you mentioned playing up a little bit more on credit. Are you guys paying a little more for expanded credit there? Just kind of want to get your thoughts on post-securitization loan purchases. Thanks.

Brandon Filson

Analyst · JonesTrading. Please go ahead.

Yes. So yes, in the securitization, right, we're freed up $24 million of capital, which we'll use. We did earmark some of that to reduce some repurchase debt outstanding, but we'll have enough capital to really go through another, call it, $100 million, $150 million in loan purchases over the next couple of quarters. And then I think you'll be able to see us at that point do some commingled securitizations with other Angel Oak entities as well. Like I mentioned a little bit ago, current coupons are back to the high 7s. I expect them with maybe the retrenchment of volatility go back to the mid-7s, but we're kind of seeing things range-bound well over 7%, but under 8% is kind of what we're seeing in almost a day-to-day basis of no matter what the volatility or reduction in volatility is.

Matthew Erdner

Analyst · JonesTrading. Please go ahead.

Got it. That’s helpful. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Eric Hagen with BTIG. Please go ahead.

Eric Hagen

Analyst · BTIG. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Good morning. Just following up here a little bit. I mean, with the macro being a little bit more sensitive, I mean, how do you expect valuations in the secondary market to differ going forward for the bank statement loans versus the investor DSCR loans? And are you guys -- do you have an appetite for one versus the other, maybe a little bit more right now? Thank you, guys.

Sreeni Prabhu

Analyst · BTIG. Please go ahead.

Yes. I mean, good question. I mean, I think one part of your question is also the credit of the borrowers as we enter a new environment. Obviously, what we have seen is other parts of consumer credit ex housing has weakened considerably over the last probably nine to 12 months. We are not seeing that generally in residential credit, but we are seeing some shoots in that. The way I would answer that is if you look at it from a pure returns perspective, DSCR loans obviously do better just because of prepaid penalties in there. But they are also aligned to rental income, aligned to more investment purposes, et cetera, versus bank statement loans. So right now, I think we'll keep the current mix. We don't plan to increase anything or decrease anything, but we have more scrutiny probably around DSCR loans. And the way we are solving it, and this is a bigger question that you can have a chat with Namit who's the CIO because he can go into a lot more detail, but generally, in the DSCR side, you have to be careful about Airbnb or what type of purposes are they using these loans. But there's been a little bit more scrutiny. We have obviously got tremendously up in credit, we can provide you details on that. So the mix won't change, but there's more scrutiny, I would say.

Eric Hagen

Analyst · BTIG. Please go ahead.

That's really helpful detail. Thank you. Following on the comments around resecuritization, should we think of that as being mostly connected to interest rates potentially falling? And in the event that you guys are able to resecuritize, how long should we expect those loans to maybe sit on a warehouse line of funding before you're able to turn them around into securitization? And are you guys seeing any relief on the warehouse funding costs relative to benchmarks like SOFR and stuff? Thank you.

Brandon Filson

Analyst · BTIG. Please go ahead.

Yes. So the resecuritization we got -- we almost have two different components, right? We have the pre-IPO securitizations, which honestly the securitization market and those loans look pretty similar to today, but that's been outstanding now for -- those securitizations have been outstanding for almost six years. So they're massively delevered. So any resecuritization of those would be a releveraging play to free up capital. We do not intend, if we securitize, to take the loans back for a meaningful period of time. We really would like to execute an immediate call and resecuritization. So we wouldn't take our fixed funding cost, convert it back to variable and then have the market risk through that time. So if we did it, we would do effectively a same-day resecuritization or sale of some of the loans underlying those securitizations. But funding cost, because I think today's funding cost we're not quite at a point where we look at the funding cost through really any of our deals, it's similar to the old stuff. Post-IPO is very cheap and then the new things are coming in. Our new securitization, the funding cost is very similar to the way it was back in 2019. And then on the warehouse funding side, we are seeing a lot of our warehouse lenders begin to work with us to cut spreads. We've gone from things a little bit earlier. We had facilities at like 210 over with a 20 basis point SOFR adjustment on top. Now those have gone to no SOFR adjustment and 190. Some of our lines were at 175 and then one of them is at 165 currently. So we've seen a good move back, which provides a little bit more tailwind on the returns as well. I expect it to -- as long as the market stays kind of stable here and we keep executing that we'll be able to negotiate little tighter spreads in the coming periods as well.

Eric Hagen

Analyst · BTIG. Please go ahead.

Great detail from you guys this morning. I appreciate it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Don Fandetti with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Don Fandetti

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Hi. Can you talk a bit about the competitive landscape for non-QM currently? And then how you're thinking about it long term if the GSE footprint shrinks?

Sreeni Prabhu

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Yes, good question. So I would say as rates went up in 2022, a few things happened. I'll talk about the supply and the demand. So as the rates went up in 2022, you would think that the overall non-QM mortgage market will shrink as the agency mortgage market shrunk. But that's not what's happened. The non-QM mortgage market has actually grown. We'll probably finish this year at $100-plus billion. And last year, I think we were around $80 billion, plus or minus, depending on who you talk to. So the supply side, what's happened is as the agency volumes have shrunk, a lot of guys who would generally do six, seven agency loans that are now doing one or two agency loans and so they are more proactive in non-QM. And so the supply of that has grown. On the buy side, you have tremendous demand from insurance companies. So the market has definitely become decently more commoditized. And these are the markets where don't expect Angel Oak from the origination or from the REIT side to try to capture market share. We've just gone up in quality and stood there. But it's our relationship with the brokers that we've been doing business. I mean, if you think about all the people that have come in and out of the market over the last 8-plus years, I think it's probably us and maybe one more entity that might have been there. So the entire thick and thin of this. So our relationship with the brokers allow us to get what we want to get relative to the competitive landscape that it is. So if we try to grow it beyond what the market gives us, we’ll have to squeeze spreads and increase – or widen out our credit box, which we don’t intend to do. So we are happy where we are, but the market is definitely competitive. Now when does that change? That changes as rates come down because, interestingly enough, when the rates come down, from the demand side, insurance company demand may slow down. Don’t know, there’s a lot of appetite. So let’s see how much it comes down. But on the supply side, I think the model then reverts back to the agency guys doing more agency loans, there’s a lot of 7%, 7.5%, 8% coupons sitting out in the agency market that will have to be refinanced. And so those guys will refocus back on the agency business, lose focus on the non-QM business. And that’s when our business model then becomes even more active. So today, we are happy. Our market is getting more commoditized. No doubt about it, everybody knows it. But this is when you stay true to credit. But from a relationship perspective, our core relationships, what we have developed in the mortgage company over the last almost 10 years now is playing out the way we wanted it to play out. Q – Don Fandetti: Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Brandon Filson for any closing remarks.

Brandon Filson

Analyst

Thank you, everyone, for your time and interest in Angel Oak Mortgage REIT. We look forward to connecting with you again next quarter. In the meantime, if you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to us, and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.