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Amphenol Corporation (APH)

Q4 2009 Earnings Call· Thu, Jan 21, 2010

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Operator

Operator

Hello and welcome to the Fourth Quarter Earnings Conference Call for Amphenol Corporation. Following today’s presentation there will be a formal question-and-answer session. (Operator instructions). At the request of the Company, today’s conference is being recorded. If anyone has any objections you may disconnect at this time. I would now like to introduce today's conference host, Ms. Diana Reardon. Ma’am, you may begin.

Diana Reardon

Management

Thank you. Good afternoon. My name is Diana Reardon. And I am Amphenol's CFO. I'm here together with Adam Norwitt, our CEO, and we would like to welcome everyone to our fourth quarter call. The results were released this morning. I will provide some financial commentary on the quarter, and Adam will give an overview of the business and current trends The Company closed 2009 with a strong fourth quarter achieving sequential growth in sales and earnings per share and exceeding the high end of the Company’s guidance. Sales were $758 million, up 6% in US Dollars and 5% in local currencies over Q3. This represents the third quarter of sequential sales growth for the Company in 2009. Compared to last year, sales for the quarter were up slightly in US Dollars and down 2% from a local currency perspective. From an organic standpoint excluding both acquisitions and foreign exchange sales were down 7% compared to the fourth quarter of 2008. Breaking down sales into our two major components our cable business which comprised 8% of our sales in the quarter was down 8% from last quarter in line with normal seasonal patterns and up about 1% from last year. The Interconnect business which comprise 92% of our sales was up slightly from last year and up 7% sequentially. We saw sequential growth in the majority of our markets and Adam will comment further on trends by market in a few minutes. Operating income for the quarter was $138 million compared to $142 million last year. Operating margin was 18.3% compared to 18.9% last year and 17.3% last quarter. Operating income is net of stock option expense of about $5 million or 0.7% of sales in the '09 quarter compared to $4.5 million or 0.6% of sales in the '08…

Adam Norwitt

Management

Well, thank you very much, Diana. And I would like to also extend my welcome to all of you on the phone and hopefully it’s not too late to also wish all of you a Happy New Year here in January of 2010. We appreciate your joining the call. Today, I would like to first highlight the fourth quarter and 2009 full year some of our achievements, I will then discuss the trends and progress in our served markets and then finally, I will take a few moments to comment on our outlook going into the first quarter of 2010. Relative to the fourth quarter, the fourth quarter was an excellent quarter for Amphenol as we continue to take advantage of a market environment that is recovering in many segments. Revenues were essentially flat to prior year and we increased sales sequentially by 6% representing the third consecutive quarter of sequential growth in both sales and income for Amphenol. We were especially pleased to further expand our already strong operating margins to 18.3% as well to generate excellent cash flow of $152 million. Both of these are a reflection of the strength and discipline of our agile organization and the entrepreneurial management team that Diana mentioned. For the full year of 2009, despite the impact of the global economic crisis, we are very proud of our strong results. For 2009, we achieved $2,820 billion of revenues. We achieved operating margins of 17.3%. And we achieved earnings per share of $1.85. Net of the expense related to the bond offering. At the beginning of the downturn, early in 2009 and actually at the end of 2008 our team reacted quickly to adjust costs in face of the sudden reduction in demand thereby ensuring that we could preserve strong operating margins and…

Operator

Operator

(Operator instructions). And our first question comes from Amit Daryanani with RBC Capital Markets.

Amit Daryanani -- RBC Capital Markets

Analyst

Thanks, Adam. Good morning and congratulations on a good quarter there, guys. Maybe just to start off with I think the big issue that everyone’s dealing with is being the inventory and component shortages across the supply chain. Could you just talk broadly what do you see in the supply chain from your perspective and are you seeing connectors specifically getting short supply? And if so do you see any impact or benefit on the lead times and pricing?

Adam Norwitt

Management

I think certainly we have seen the same reports that I'm sure you have relative to certain constraint. We, in particular, have not seen shortages of our own products. And in fact, we have done an excellent job. We believe in satisfying upside demand from customers. And we have seen quite some upside demand. If you look at our IT market, up 18% sequentially in the quarter, it is not so easy to ramp up the factories, to ramp up the tooling, to get the people really in place to support such an increase in demand and our team around the world did just a fantastic job of executing on that. We certainly have heard of semiconductor shortages in certain things, but have not seen any material impact to our business from shortages of other components.

Amit Daryanani -- RBC Capital Markets

Analyst

That’s helpful. And then just I guess, Adam, a question on the Interconnect margin. You guys did a really good job sequentially on them. But when I look at the year-over-year dynamic, right, Interconnect sales are basically flat, but your operating margins are still down 130 basis points. Is there something structurally that shifted or is it a reflection of how fast we kind of came down through the recession and how fast we have to ramp up?

Diana Reardon

Management

Amit, I think from when we look from a year-over-year perspective that the primary difference in profitability would be a slightly higher SG&A expense in the current quarter than what we would have seen in the fourth quarter of 2008. There is a portion of that, about a third of that that perhaps you would prefer to as a structural change, which really just has to do with slightly higher stock option expense and some higher amortization in the non-cash charge that relates to some of the acquisitions that we did. But I would say that the majority of the difference has I would say more to do with the fact that as we did take SG&A down in 2009 in response to lower sales levels we intentionally maintained a certain higher level of spending in areas like R&D and certain sales areas on certain important technologies that we view as high growth as we look out in 2010 and beyond. And so while we did take SG&A down I think 5% or 6% on a year-over-year basis it does still when you look at Q4 to Q4 last year show us a slightly higher level and I think that’s probably the most significant change. Having said that we are certainly extremely pleased to have achieved 18.3% ROS in the fourth quarter and feel extremely good about the conversion margin from a sequential standpoint, which was 34% or so and is in excess of our goal of 25%. So I think that we from an overall profitability standpoint that we're in a very good place here to support good profitable growth and margin expansion in the future.

Amit Daryanani -- RBC Capital Markets

Analyst

Diana, that makes perfect sense. But if I extrapolate that further that would imply that as sales start to come back you should see at least for the near-term some outsize incremental margin expansion, right?

Diana Reardon

Management

I think we have a goal of 25% conversion margin. We certainly always try to do better than that. We had a lot of success in the fourth quarter as I think from an operating perspective everybody in the Company works very hard to achieve the level of profitability we were able to. I think this has to see how things go here now in the New Year.

Amit Daryanani -- RBC Capital Markets

Analyst

Thanks.

Diana Reardon

Management

Okay.

Adam Norwitt

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Amitabh Passi -- UBS

Analyst

Hi, thank you. Can you hear me?

Adam Norwitt

Management

Yes, we hear you perfectly.

Amitabh Passi -- UBS

Analyst

Thank you. Diana, I just wanted to follow-up on the SG&A comments. As we look into the fourth quarter of 2010 and perhaps for 2010, what’s the best way to think about how SG&A potentially ramps for the year and particularly for the first quarter?

Diana Reardon

Management

Sure. I mean I think in the first quarter we’ve given guidance at the high end that’s slightly down from the fourth quarter. So it's little hard, this is a relatively minor change in sales, so we kind of hard to talk about exactly what SG&A does. But, I think in general, we would look for SG&A to grow at about half of what sales would grow at and would look to really maximize the conversion margin through that process. Certainly, there are certain areas in R&D and in selling that are variable with sales and need to be adjusted both up and down and then there are certain other elements of SG&A that we would like to keep pretty fixed.

Amitabh Passi -- UBS

Analyst

Got it. And then perhaps one for Adam. Just curious, Adam, as you look through full year 2010, which of the end markets are you most excited about? Where do you see sort of the most potential for upside surprise and which ones do you think would be relatively more lackluster going forward?

Adam Norwitt

Management

Thanks very much, Amitabh. We’re obviously not giving guidance for 2010. I think there remains still uncertainty in the macroeconomic situation. That being said we see great opportunities in all of our markets. I think as we saw over the last several quarters the diversification of Amphenol has been just a tremendous asset for us to drive a real sustainable, long-term performance advantage in this industry and that comes really by seeing how in each quarter those markets can move slightly differently. In any given quarter, you can have some strength in one and not some strength in the other. I think over the course of the 2010 we see great opportunities in all of them. If I just mention the Internet market, for example, where we’ve seen very strong growth, we continued to see excellent underlying drivers of strength there. The expansion of data demand, the acceleration of things like video on the Internet and other real data demand drivers. In the aerospace market, we also see that proliferation of electronics that comes. We see it also in the mobile phone market where the smartphone expansion that continues to accelerate where Amphenol has excellent penetration across those platforms. Really in each of our markets we believe we see great opportunities for our own position to expand regardless of what will happen in each given quarter.

Amitabh Passi -- UBS

Analyst

Got it. And just one final one for me. You talked about some signs of some I don't know call it adverse pricing movements or potential for adverse pricing movements in your cable products. I was wondering if you could just maybe elaborate on that.

Adam Norwitt

Management

Yes, I think we are always a very disciplined participant in that market and we’re never the first mover on price even if we maintained very close attention to what the competition is doing. And we’ve just started to see some signs where maybe that discipline of other participants is not as strong as it was in the past. It’s not something that we raise alarm bells about, but rather it’s something that we stay very mindful of. And we’re very fortunate that we have taken a lot of steps over the last several years to reduce our costs and remain competitive in that market where we have also excellent position with new technologies and new value add products. But relative to the cable portion of that where we see certainly there are a limited number of competition, we will watch very carefully how that pricing goes and we will be responsive if need be. Amitabh Passi – UBS: Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Matt Sheerin with Thomas Weisel Partners. Matt Sheerin – Thomas Weisel Partners: Yes, thanks. Adam, in your guidance in your commentary you talked primarily seeing normal seasonal patterns in the Q1 in most of your segments. Of course, you’ve been better than season in the last couple of quarters. And that it’s a little bit different from what we’re hearing from other suppliers and semiconductors and components that continue to see a little bit better than seasonal strength. Does that have something to do with the fact that your lead times are still in good shape and customers don't have to sort of look out and maybe double order or book out further so your visibility perhaps is not as strong?

Adam Norwitt

Management

No, I think that could certainly be an element. We have, as I said, done an excellent job of keeping our support of our customers very strong, even with the recent increases in demand. We have not had to extend dramatically lead times. We have worked very closely with customers to make sure that we have reduced our cycle times. I think that again what you see sometimes in semiconductors or other components is not necessarily analogous to what we would see. I think what is the good news here is that we believe that with these patterns really getting back to normal that is a great sign in terms of how this kind of cycle of the downturn has evolved and we feel that that's a very positive outlook. Matt Sheerin – Thomas Weisel Partners: Okay, great. And then just lastly on the acquisition front, I think you announced some small use of cash for acquisitions. Could you talk about that? And obviously you have a big cash position now. How does the pipeline for M&A look?

Diana Reardon

Management

From a cash flow perspective in this past quarter, the disbursements that we made related to earn-outs and those types of things on prior deals that were closed in prior quarters. Maybe I will let Adam comment on the pipeline part of the question.

Adam Norwitt

Management

You are correct that we have a tremendous capacity in the Company especially with the recent debt offering that we did, which had a very favorable debt offering. So we have strong capacity and we have a strong pipeline as well to suit that. We continue to work that pipeline as we have always done. There has really been no change or dramatic shift in how we manage the acquisition process and we continue to be very, very close to many companies where we see strong technology in a good complementary combination with Amphenol. When those will happen? We certainly are always trying to accelerate those processes, but again, you cannot predict with any certainty when those will happen. But the pipeline still to us is a very strong pipeline and one which we continue to build as well. Matt Sheerin – Thomas Weisel Partners: Okay, great, thanks.

Adam Norwitt

Management

Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Craig Hettenbach with Goldman Sachs.

Craig Hettenbach -- Goldman Sachs

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Yes, just following up on the topic of M&A and more broadly capital allocation, can you talk about how you view stock buybacks versus M&A opportunities this year?

Adam Norwitt

Management

Yes, I think we certainly always have favored new product development and M&A as the use of our capital. And I think we will continue to look for M&A opportunities where we see good opportunities.

Craig Hettenbach -- Goldman Sachs

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Okay. And if I can go back to the book-to-bill just above one can you talk about how the linearity of orders were throughout Q4 and just how visibility is different at all going into Q1 versus recent quarters?

Diana Reardon

Management

In terms of the linearity of orders, during the quarter I think they were pretty linear. I mean I think that the book-to-bill ratio for Q4 at this level I think we would consider pretty normal. So I don’t know that we see anything in either the order patterns or in the book-to-bill that would indicate any significant change from what we’ve seen in prior fourth quarter.

Craig Hettenbach -- Goldman Sachs

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Jim Suva -- Citigroup

Analyst

Thank you and congratulations to you and your team.

Adam Norwitt

Management

Thank you, Jim. Jim Suva – Citigroup: A quick question. As we think about the difficult year that we just passed and Amphenol had to go through some difficult decisions of restructuring and cutting costs, to the point about operating margins, we know that the December '09 margins operating compared to December of '08 were down year-over-year. More looking forward, I wonder if the linearity of the cost-cutting and the leverage thereby allow us and it looks like this is true for the March quarter that year-over- year operating margin should be higher in 2010 versus 2009. Can you talk about does that logically make sense?

Diana Reardon

Management

Jim Suva – Citigroup: Great. And then a couple of quick housekeeping questions. Can you just comment a little about you mentioned that you're doing a little bit more stock option grants, which you expensed into your earnings as part of the cost of doing business? Can you talk a little bit about what we should expect for diluted share count for, not only March, but going forward, and then also what we should think about for the debt that you did? Is the interest costs amortized over the life of the loan or did you take all those discount, did you take that all upfront right now or how --?

Diana Reardon

Management

Sure. On the first question relative to weighted average shares I think the fourth quarter would be a decent proxy for 2010. And the fourth quarter was a little bit higher than the prior quarter is largely due to just the increase in the stock price, which as you know mathematically has an impact on the value of options that are outstanding, which go into the diluted weighted average share calculation. Relative to interest expense we would expect interest expense not to be all that different than it was in Q4 with the one exception that the fees on the receivables program, which in 2009, were included in other expense will now be included in interest expense under the new accounting rules. And so this 400,000 or so a quarter that will move from other expense up to interest expense. But if you make that adjustment in Q9 [ph] I think the first quarter of 2010 would be about the same.

Jim Suva -- Citigroup

Analyst

Great. And CapEx?

Diana Reardon

Management

CapEx, our historical range is sort of been between 2% and 4% of sales, 2% being a real maintenance level and 4% being quite a big expansion level. I think that in 2009 our expenditures were a little lower, probably 2.5% or so of sales. In 2010 I think we would expect more of a normal rate, which would be somewhere between 3% and 3.5% of sales.

Jim Suva -- Citigroup

Analyst

Thank you and congratulations.

Diana Reardon

Management

Thank you.

Adam Norwitt

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Steven Fox with CLSA.

Steven Fox -- CLSA

Analyst · CLSA.

Hi, good afternoon. Can you just talk a little bit about the challenges facing you in manufacturing in China with maybe some extra inflation pressures this year? Are there any other plans to offset that with different footprint expansions and how do you see that environment this year?

Adam Norwitt

Management

I think what we will do this year is really from the same playbook as we adopted that year, which is to hold our general manager on the ground accountable for an operating income line. And what that means is they will find other ways. So whether that is moving to other locations in China, implementing semi-automation in some of the facilities in China as well going to new location we continue to expand in other locations, now having four facilities in Africa, having three facilities in India, so China is not the only answer for Amphenol and we will continue on this kind of unending quest for low cost. At the same time, China is a very important market for us. So I'm very pleased with the diversification that we have in China. We’ve 22 factories today in China, not on any one location, but rather dispersed around the country so that in the event there is a kind of locality where there is some issue to the total of Amphenol, that won’t be a material impact. And so that diversification that we have within China is also really a tremendous asset that we have as we face potential inflationary pressures around that country. Those factors include really in every region in China. So I'm very comfortable to see that even if we see some input prices or some input costs going up in China that we will be able to manage that as we have in the past.

Steven Fox -- CLSA

Analyst · CLSA.

Great. And then just as a follow-up, I know you sort of touched on handsets for this year. Given that there seems to be increased competition, maybe increased innovation around smartphones, etc., can you talk specifically about some of the key products that maybe Amphenol is going to see benefit from those types of trends?

Adam Norwitt

Management

I think in smartphones you certainly have a higher content on a smartphone than you have on just sort of a regular voice only phone. And our content really runs the range of all of those Interconnect antenna and electrical mechanical hinge products that go on the bill of materials. We see great success with all of the smartphone makers with a real breadth of product offering. So there is not one product in particular that I would point to and say that only benefits from smartphones rather our entire portfolio of products does benefit from smartphones. I think what is great about smartphones as well is that these are higher cost items that are sold to sometimes more discerning customers that the attention of the customer to a quality technology is maybe even more focused than it would be on the low-end phones. And that really plays very strongly into Amphenol's advantage of having a very high technology solution at the same time as we can have cost competitiveness from our very low cost base that we have in that market.

Steven Fox -- CLSA

Analyst · CLSA.

Great. Thank you very much.

Adam Norwitt

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Will Stein -- Credit Suisse

Analyst

Great. Thank you. Adam, just wanted to follow-up on something you spoke about before about the cable business where you were starting to see some maybe lack of discipline among the bigger competitors here. Margins in this segment are still quite a bit higher than they were a year ago. 15.5% versus just over 11% last year. Do you think cost actions will allow you to remain at this relatively high level in cable or should we expect margins there to trail off?

Adam Norwitt

Management

Well, I think that we will certainly strive very hard to preserve margins, but look, if there is significant pricing pressure that comes, there is still a high material content in that product. And so you probably cannot take enough cost out to preserve margins if there is such a pricing action. That being said, we continue to also focus on products in that market where there is more value-add. And I think that value add product provides the opportunity to offset just the bulk cable margins. And that has also been a contributor to our expenses of our margins over the last couple of years, not just the reduction in material costs but also the expansion of our products that sell into really where there is more value in that product. More technology, more that you can offer to the customer. So we will continue to focus on that. We will continue to focus on new innovation. We will continue to focus on reducing our costs and all of the overhead that goes with that with offshore manufacturing and other methodologies. But if there is a real dramatic reduction in price then certainly that could have the impact of hurting our margins.

Will Stein -- Credit Suisse

Analyst

Thanks. And just another follow-up. Diana, you spoke about the changes in the accounting related to accounts receivable financing…

Diana Reardon

Management

Yes.

Will Stein -- Credit Suisse

Analyst

(inaudible) to replace the balance sheet going forward. Is that going to change the Company's policy as it relates to factoring receivables?

Diana Reardon

Management

No. I think we have always viewed the facility as a low cost option relative to additional cash flow and I think whether it is on balance sheet or off balance sheet doesn’t make any difference as far as that’s concerned. So I think it doesn’t change our view. It’s just a nice addition from a credit perspective at a lower cost than our other facilities and we would continue to have such a facility and to use such a facility in the future.

Will Stein -- Credit Suisse

Analyst

Okay, great, thank you.

Adam Norwitt

Management

Thank you, Will.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Shawn Harrison with Longbow Research.

Shawn Harrison -- Longbow Research

Analyst · Longbow Research.

Hi. Good afternoon.

Adam Norwitt

Management

Good afternoon.

Shawn Harrison -- Longbow Research

Analyst · Longbow Research.

Diana, first just on the cash cycle and the working capital management, would we expect to see any substantial change or improvement in the cash cycle days in 2010 or should we assume just kind of a general stability around the back half range going forward?

Diana Reardon

Management

Yes, I think we’ve certainly made some significant improvements during 2009. I think we went into 2009 when the recession and so forth started both from receivables and an inventory perspective with slightly higher ratios than we would have liked. I think we've done just a great job from an operating perspective to get those really down. I think to some of the best levels that we’ve been able to achieve as a Company. I think from an inventory perspective I would believe that we would be able to maintain, we’re around 80 days and I would think that, that would be a good estimate for what we would be able to do next year. From a receivables perspective of 64 days, which we achieved at the end of this quarter is probably one of the best results I think that we’ve had and if I was going to model 2010, I probably would use a range that would be 65 to 67 type of days, which I think would still be certainly a great performance given the global nature of the business. And I think that from a cash flow perspective we would still expect to achieve certainly a very strong cash flow in 2010.

Shawn Harrison -- Longbow Research

Analyst · Longbow Research.

Okay. And then, Adam, as a follow-up. I had a two part question. First, on the automotive markets. You suggested that you would see it down sequentially for the March quarter. Maybe if you could just speak of in terms of what you're seeing there, is it just a seasonal factor or is it just a pause in demand and maybe the trends that you’re seeing globally? And then the second question on a different topic is maybe if you could talk a little bit about some of the success or the opportunities in cross-selling Times Microwave in those products in the Amphenol product line, the potential for 2010?

Adam Norwitt

Management

Sure. Thanks very much for the question. I think relative to automotive and then the first quarter we do expect this just to be slightly down, which is really from our perspective seasonality. In that market we did not actually expect it to be up in the fourth quarter and that continues to be a very resilient growth return for that market, which up 51% year-over-year in the fourth quarter, certainly from low numbers in the year prior, but that is still very fantastic performance for that market. And we would expect this to be in a more normal phase now going into the first quarter. Relative to Times Microwave, which we acquired about nine months ago now, that has been an outstanding acquisition for Amphenol. And you mentioned the cross-selling. Certainly with acquisitions that we always look for opportunities to bring the technologies of that new Company, new family member as it were into the existing customer relationships that we have and vice versa. And I can tell you that with Times Microwave we have already seen good success there in really having a response from our major customers that say, now we see with Amphenol really the complete offering, which includes now this RF technology for the military. RF technology in the military is an area of really expansion potential. If you look at all the new equipment whether that be vehicles, aeroplanes, boats, whatever that is that all of these equipment are now being fitted with detection devices whether it be IED detection with new radar system so that the amount of RF content in a system today is much greater than it was ten years ago. And certainly in the military you don’t always see moves happening in one quarter or two quarter, but we have certainly seen signs of real response from our customer that this can be a tremendous addition to the Amphenol family.

Shawn Harrison -- Longbow Research

Analyst · Longbow Research.

Thank you.

Adam Norwitt

Management

Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

Wamsi Mohan – Bank of America/Merrill Lynch: Thank you. Adam, can you comment perhaps on the distribution inventories in the defense segment, which were particularly lean at the beginning of the fourth quarter? How many points of the sequential improvement in that business would you attribute to an inventory replenishment and what is your view on the level of inventory and distribution for the defense segment?

Adam Norwitt

Management

What I can tell you relative to their own inventory I don’t know necessarily that we are seeing a replenishment so to speak. I mean certainly they reduced their inventories over the last year. And so our sale into distribution was certainly suffered during that time period. And I can tell you that in the fourth quarter our sales into distribution were strengthening by quite a large margin from what we had seen in the past. Now what did that represent as a percent of the total growth in the aerospace, which grew sequentially by 7%? I couldn’t tell you exactly what that is with granularity, but certainly it was a component of that growth. Now, going forward are they going to build back inventory to the levels that they had one year ago? I wouldn’t personally think that they will. What I do think is that the distributors are adopting a policy where they say that we will service the business and we will continue to try to service the business that we see, but we won’t necessarily fill our coffers with inventory in the Military Aerospace. So I think that that is really real demand that we have seen from them as opposed to that pullback in inventory that we saw for a number of quarters before. Wamsi Mohan – Bank of America/Merrill Lynch: Okay, thank you, that’s helpful. Is there anyway you can help quantify how much of a headwind raw material cost increases were to operating margin dollars either on a quarter-on-quarter or year-on-year basis that you were perhaps unable to offset through your initiatives of product improvement, mix or pricing or anything else?

Diana Reardon

Management

We don’t have the sort of consolidated statistics on commodities and so forth that I know some others have. We just don’t run the business that way. We view material costs as is part of the cost of the product. And I think as Adam said in response to an earlier question our general managers manage their business as a whole. And if we see pressure on one particular element of cost, we look to try to offset it through reduction of another cost or adjustment of price, whatever is appropriate for that particular business. So we just don’t compile all these statistics because quite frankly we wouldn’t use them to run the business. And so I'm afraid we just can’t give you the specific percentage changes that relate to specific commodities.

Adam Norwitt

Management

I think you should just see, Wamsi, with the 34% conversion margin leading to 18.3% operating margin, regardless of the puts and the takes so to speak from raw materials that we had excellent profitability and that comes down to exactly what Diana said. That is really the goal of our general managers and our executive team around the world. And whether one input or another goes up or down that is not really an excuse at the table in Amphenol. Wamsi Mohan – Bank of America/Merrill Lynch: Okay, thanks for that. And just to follow-up on that, Adam, are there revenue opportunities that you think are being left on the table that can you actually deliver a higher revenue growth and 25% conversion margin if you wanted or is the demand really not there to support that?

Adam Norwitt

Management

No, I don't think we are leaving revenue on the table to the benefit of profitability. Certainly, we are disciplined on price. So let me just say that we are not going after everything with price. But at the same time we go after opportunities with our customers where they value the total offering from Amphenol, the technology, the relationship, the breadth of the product that we can bring to their application. And price is one of those, but all of those other aspects come together to bring a real total value to that customer and I don't believe that we’re really leaving something on the table because of a pricing policy. Wamsi Mohan – Bank of America/Merrill Lynch: Okay, thanks a lot.

Adam Norwitt

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Brian White -- Ticonderoga

Analyst

Yes, hi, Adam.

Adam Norwitt

Management

Hi, Brian, how are you?

Brian White -- Ticonderoga

Analyst

Good. When we look at innovation by your customers and measure it by new product introductions this year what market are you seeing the most activity?

Adam Norwitt

Management

I think we have seen a tremendous amount of activity in the IT market. We’ve seen a tremendous amount of activity in the mobile infrastructure market with the new base station platforms that have come out to satisfy high speed devices, we see a lot of innovation among smartphones, which we talked about earlier. And those are the three areas where clearly the innovation over the last year despite this very, very severe downturn that we all had to live through has continued to accelerate as if there were no downturn and the innovation that is really being driven by user experience being improved. Whether that be a smart Internet device that you hold in your hand, whether that be having the core systems just being really clogged with data, the number of servers that are being required to support some of these Internet sites. All of this sort of totality of data demand is driving those three markets very, very strongly regardless of the downturn. At the same time, we see it also in the aerospace industry. One, where you don't expect quick technology innovation in aerospace. But then you do now see it as the wars that are being fought are more dynamic and you have to equip soldiers with new functionalities on a much more rapid basis. All of a sudden, we start to see actually innovation in that market accelerating as well. So, I really believe that in everyone of our markets we see great opportunities for this innovation. And our goal as a Company has always been to create an Interconnect technology that can enable the application of our customer to be better and thereby sell their products more effectively. I think that very simple technology development strategy has paid strong dividends in 2009 and creates a great platform for the future as well.

Brian White -- Ticonderoga

Analyst

Okay. And Adam, just in the data center there is a convergence of storage networking servers. I'm curious the impact that might have on the connector content and specifically how well positioned is Amphenol for that trend?

Adam Norwitt

Management

I think whether you have the convergence, which there certainly one camp, whether you have the cloud, which is another camp and whether you have the multi sourcing, which is the third camp, all of these have great benefits for Amphenol. Because at the end of the day, how do these systems compete? They compete on performance, they compete on performance vis-à-vis data, they compete on performance vis-à-vis power consumption. And all of those are areas where our devices and our Interconnect products can enable a further functionality of those products. Whether it be a more efficient power consumption. And power is a huge deal in the data center today. Becoming almost on the same par with data transfer speeds. And on the data transfer, that is another area where our high speed connectors really lead the industry in providing a total solution. And what Amphenol can offer into these integrated systems more than almost any other supplier can do is a modeling of the end-to-end Interconnect system that our engineers can provide through our integrated approach to that system where that is something that creates a tremendous value for our customers if they are creating an integrated system.

Brian White -- Ticonderoga

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Adam Norwitt

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Adam Norwitt

Management

Very good. Well, we appreciate everyone's interest in the Company. I wish you all a very strong and Happy New Year as we go forward into 2010 and we look forward to talking to you again in three months. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for attending today's conference call and have a nice day.