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Aqua Metals, Inc. (AQMS)

Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Mar 15, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Aqua Metals' Fourth Quarter 2017 Corporate Update Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Greg Falesnik, Managing Director for MZ North America, Aqua Metals' Investor Relations firm. Thank you. You may begin.

Greg Falesnik

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Welcome, everyone, to Aqua Metals Fourth Quarter 2017 Earnings Call. Earlier this afternoon, Aqua Metals released financial results for the full year and quarter ended December 31, 2017. The release is available on the Investors section of the company's website at www.aquametals.com. This earnings call will include forward-looking statements concerning Aqua Metals, Inc. forward-looking statements include, but are not limited to our plans, objectives, expectations, and intentions and other statements that contain words such as expects, contemplates, anticipates, plans, intends, believes and variations of such words or similar expressions that predict or indicate future events or trends or that do not relate to historical matters. The forward-looking statements in these earnings call include the strength and efficacy of Aqua Metals' portfolio of patent applications and issued patents, the lead acid battery recycling industry, the future of lead acid battery recycling via traditional smelters, the company's development of its commercial lead acid battery recycling facilities, and the quality and efficiency of the company's proposed lead acid battery recycling operations. Those forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially. Among those factors are the risk that the company may not be able to produce and market AquaRefined lead on a commercial basis or if it achieves commercial operations that such operations will be profitable. The fact that the company only recently commenced production and has not generated any significant revenue to date, thus subjecting the company to all the risk inherent in a pre-revenue startup, the risk that no further patents will be issued on the company's patent applications or any other application that the company may file in the future and that any patents issued to date or in the future will be sufficiently broad to adequately protect the company's technology; the risk that the company's initial patents and any other patents that may be issued to the company may be challenged, invalidated or circumvented. Risks related to Aqua Metals' ability to raise sufficient capital, as and when needed, to develop and operate its recycling facilities and fund operating losses as we endeavor to achieve profitability; changes to the federal, state and foreign laws regulating the recycling of lead acid batteries; the company's ability to protect its proprietary technology, trade secrets and know-how; and those risks disclosed in section Risk Factors and included in the company's annual report on Form 10-K filed today, March 15, 2018. Aqua Metals cautions readers not to place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements. The company does not undertake and specifically disclaims any obligation to update or revise such statements to reflect new circumstances or unanticipated events as they occur, except as required by law. Aqua Metals CEO, Steve Clarke, is your host today, and he will introduce the rest of the team joining him on this call. With that, I'll turn the call over to you, Steve.

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

Thank you, Greg. So my first order of business today is to welcome Tom Murphy back to the team as Interim CFO. So welcome back to the team, Tom.

Thomas Murphy

Analyst

Thank you.

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

Now before moving to the agenda for today's call, I want to summarize the progress we've made since Tom, Selwyn and I, cofounded Aqua Metals. And you can see the bullet points on the image there, they largely speak for themselves. After a period of founder funder [indiscernible] development, we closed our first external funding in quarter 4, 2014. We went on to get our first full scale electrolyzer up and running by quarter 1, 2015, following that with an IPO and starting construction of our first facility. To the surprise of many in our industry, we secured our key permits in quarter 3 and quarter 4 of 2016, and our first facility was determined not to be subject to NESHAP, which was an important precedent. At the start of 2017, we secured an important strategic partnership with Johnson Controls, JCI, and secured key patents in the second half of 2017. As we reported, we hit a roadblock in the form of sticky lead, and I'm going to explain sticky lead in a few minutes. And we overcame that through science, engineering, hard work and long days. And as we have reported, we solved that issue and daytime operation of a single electrolyzer featured with what we call the sticky lead fix kit began in quarter 4, 2017. That's continued and daytime operation of 1 complete electrolyzer module -- sorry, one complete 6 electrolyzer module or 6 electrolyzers per module, each fitted with the same sticky lead fixed kit, began in this quarter, and we recently announced our first 24-hour run of that module. The rest of this presentation will continue this theme of progress and perseverance. For the agenda for the presentation today, I'm going to focus on operations update, starting off with sticky lead, what is it and…

Thomas Murphy

Analyst

Thank you, Steve. In the fourth quarter of 2017, we recognized revenues of $900,000 compared to $600,000 of revenue in the third quarter of 2017. This was a third consecutive quarter the company generated revenue. The revenue consisted of plastics and lead compounds. For the 3 months ended December 31, 2017, we had an operating loss of $6.5 million compared to an operating loss of $4.6 million in the fourth quarter of 2016. The current quarter loss was primarily driven by low production in our trick facility, product mix and ramp up costs. In addition, we continue to invest in technology, developments and process improvements. Net loss for the fourth quarter of 2017 was $7 million or $0.32 per diluted share compared to a net loss of $4.9 million or $0.30 per diluted share in the fourth quarter of 2016. In the year ending December 31, 2017, we recognized revenue of $2.1 million compared to no revenue in 2016. For the year ended December 31, 2017, we had an operating loss of $24.9 million or $1.22 per basic and diluted share compared to a net operating loss of $13 million or $0.85 per basic and diluted share for the year ended December 31, 2016. Net loss for the year of 2017 was $26.6 million or $1.31 per diluted share. This compares to a net loss of $13.6 million in 2016 or $0.89 per diluted share. We had over $22.8 million in cash and cash equivalents as of December 31, 2017. In the fourth quarter, the company raised approximately $13.8 million from a capital raise. Capital expenditures were approximately $2.2 million. For the first quarter, we expect to see similar levels of cash outflows from operations. In addition, we expect our CapEx will be in the $2 million to $3 million range in the quarter. We also received approximately $2.2 million in January 2018 from the underwriters, exercising their over-allotment option from the December 2017 capital raise. As we have discussed before, as we expand our business, we will need additional capital. Total revenues in the first quarter of 2018 are expected to range between $1.3 million and $1.4 million compared to revenue of $900,000 in the fourth quarter of 2017. The revenues will consist of plastics and lead compound sales. As we increase production in 2018, we believe that our operating results will improve as we ramp up production of our AquaRefining modules. Now I will turn the call back to Steve.

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

Thank you, Tom. So before we move on to the Q&A portion of the call, I would like to leave you with some key points. The first one is that we fixed the sticky lead issue, and we're fully implementing the retrofit. And I just want to take a moment to say, what an incredible effort the technical and operations teams did to achieve that. It took some time to understand why we were seeing something for the very first time in 4 years, where there was a tremendous disappointment, and head scratching as to why the modules have been designed and will operate and as we had expected and had every reason to expect. So there is a tremendous amount of hard work, and I'm absolutely thrilled with the performance of the team in doing that. It speaks volumes to what we've done. Understanding and fixing the issue that's helped us achieve higher efficiency. There was tremendous pressure to apply 1 of 3, what I would call sticking plaster approach is to the fix, and I'm glad that we resisted that and stoke out to find out why exactly we had the problem and implemented it. Because, actually, as is always the case, understanding the fundamentals gives you insights to improve performance. And right now, it's giving us a lower energy usage through a higher efficiency plating. But it also gives us the potential for some pretty significant future advancements. The second point is this has been a theme recurring for the last 18 months to 2 years now. We use a novel combination of recycling chemical, electrochemical and metallurgical processes. We believe we're unique in the combination that we've got. And that combination of processes is a situation and a set of operating conditions, an environment that is very different, not quite different, very different from a conventional recycle. And it took us a while to figure that out. Once we figured that out, we adjusted the management, the team, the technical team, the science team, the level of resources, the equipment and the focus. And much of that work was done throughout 2017, to adjust to this reality. And those changes that we made are really now yielding benefits. The facility here looks and feels like an operational facility. And I'm tremendously proud of the team in achieving that. Another absolutely key point here is that, we've been able to, we are, and we continue to leverage our relationship with JCI. They have been tremendous help to us and with passing key tests as an operational facility. And the last point is the most important one. Our focus is 100% on ramping our production of AquaRefined lead at the Tahoe Reno Industrial Center. This truly is groundbreaking world's first production of commercial quantities of AquaRefined lead right here in Reno. And this is our catalyst for growth. So with those thoughts, I'll hand you back to the operator. Operator?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from Colin Rusch with Oppenheimer & Co.

Colin Rusch

Analyst

I just wanted to clarify one point. So you're expecting all 16 modules to be fully mechanically complete exiting the quarter here, with the fixture. Did I understand that correctly?

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

Yes. To be specific, we will have the fix kit applied to all 16, rather we plan to have the fix kit applied to all 16 modules by the end of the month. And I'm watching the progress. I'm talking to the team daily, and they are confident that they can achieve that. It will be a challenge. But these guys are and gals are working really hard to achieve that.

Thomas Murphy

Analyst

And then to be clear, once the retrofit kit has been installed and then there is a series process to get the modules ramped up into production. So it's not a matter of once the kits on, we throw a switch, but it is fairly we got a short cut[indiscernible] to get 16 modules.

Colin Rusch

Analyst

And my understanding is that you've been testing these individual subsystems and well balanced entire line kind of as you go, and so there is going to be some starts and stops along the way as you move towards overall continuous production.

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

So that's correct.

Colin Rusch

Analyst

Yes. And then just in terms of the mix for the guidance for this quarter. How much of that is the plastic and how much of it is the lead compound, just out of curiosity?

Thomas Murphy

Analyst

We've never broken down the different components, but the lead compounds is the vast majority of that. Plastic is a nice byproduct, but it's not a huge revenue producer.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Sameer Joshi with H.C. Wainwright.

Sameer Joshi

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

Few questions. One relates to the fix that you did. The second relates to your timing of ramp up. And then also the status of JCI. So coming to the first question. While you were fixing this problem, did you do a risk analysis or an analysis of what other unknown issues could rise up and how we would tackle them in the future?

Stephen Clarke

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

The answer is yes, we continually do risk analysis and continually challenge ourselves of what could go wrong, what could we fix, what is our contingencies.

Sameer Joshi

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

And so you feel confident that an issue like this probably will not arise in the future?

Stephen Clarke

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

Pardon me for being a little gun shy. We didn't expect ever to have a situation, where the lead wouldn't slide of the exit chutes. What I can say is that we now have a proven track record of being able to solve unimaginable problems occur as a huge surprise. And I've got a high degree of confidence in the team that should anyone of the risk factors that we've identified or not identified crop up, we've got the capability of dealing with it.

Sameer Joshi

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

Yes, no. I think the pace at which this was fixed, that is commendable. Congratulations on that. Continuing on the same theme. On the cost side, the fit -- the fix kits, these -- were they a part of your CapEx expense? Or do you consider it to be operational expense?

Thomas Murphy

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

They will be part of the CapEx expense, and that's part of what we're projecting the $2 million to $3 million for -- they're included in the $2 million to $3 million for the first quarter.

Stephen Clarke

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

It's not even close to being that. But it's included in the CapEx. And another point that's probably worth making is that it is a pretty much 0 cost change for future module production. So we're not really added a huge demand -- any significant amount of cost to the overall modules going forward.

Sameer Joshi

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

Right. So now that you have fixed this issue and you have outlined your process of getting to higher purity AquaRefined lead production. How does that correlate with your ongoing relationship with JCI and deployments at their facilities? Like, is it that you have to get your AquaRefined -- a high-purity AquaRefined lead completely operational before JCI starts implementing that, how does this work?

Stephen Clarke

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

It's -- we're not actually -- first of all, there's a JCI team here today in the room next to where we're sat and they were here yesterday, and they are not strangers to this facility. And they -- we are working very closely with them, both where they can help us in the conventional technology. So that's taking the AquaRefined lead through the kettling and casting process where they've clearly got decades of experience and they have proven a tremendous help to us in that. But also having their guys on site, working with us, we can jointly see what opportunities there are for retrofitting our technology into their existing facilities. And I'm not really going to say much more beyond that. I'm not going to speak for JCI as to -- their timing and what is essentially under their control and their business.

Sameer Joshi

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

Okay. So just one clarification. Do you have an internal time line for yourself achieving high-purity AquaRefined lead production?

Stephen Clarke

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

Not one that we put into the public domain.

Thomas Murphy

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

Yes, we do have an internal time line.

Stephen Clarke

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

Yes.

Operator

Operator

We will go next to Ilya Grozovsky with National Securities.

Ilya Grozovsky

Analyst

So I just wanted to understand the timing of what April looks like in terms of getting these modules up and running in the setting groups of 4? How much time does each group of 4 need? And just to understand, do all 16 get to run for shifts in the month of April? Or is that much more spread out over the quarter?

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

So in general, the plan is to bring on modules in groups of 4, bring them online in groups of 4, and to bring operating modules up from daytime operation to day and evening to 24-hour operation. We've given guidance that during quarter 2, we plan to have -- by the end of quarter 2, we plan to have all of the modules in full-time operation either at or approaching 24-hour operation. Beyond that, we're not providing guidance.

Ilya Grozovsky

Analyst

Okay. Understood. And then the -- and then do you plan on producing high-grade lead in the second quarter at any time? Or is that a third quarter event?

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

We're actually making high-quality lead now. The challenge for us is to get the production of the high-purity lead to a level at which it would justify -- no, justify is a wrong word, physically be capable of dedicating a single kettle and casting line to the high quality -- high-purity lead, where the kettle is 50 tonnes of capacity, we need what's called a heal of pure lead to start the process that heal is somewhere in the region of 20 tonnes. So you basically you need 20 tonnes of high-purity lead, is what's known as a heal, you that and you use that to form and fill with a kettle and then you decant from it and cast from it as you add more pure lead into it. So the timing of the pure lead is really a function of the capacity or -- so operational capacity, the throughput of AquaRefined lead. And we can't give guidance beyond that.

Ilya Grozovsky

Analyst

You mean, in terms of -- is that a Q2 event or a Q3 event? You are not sure yet or are you not giving -- why are you not giving guidance? And I just want to be clear?

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

We're not giving guidance on that.

Operator

Operator

We'll go next to Bhakti Pavani with Euro Pacific Capital.

Bhakti Pavani

Analyst

Just wanted to understand, once you guys are in full operation, you did mention that there will be 2 products, lead bullion and AquaRefined lead. Wanted to understand what percentage of would be each of those products? And would you may be able to provide some color on the pricing of those products?

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

So continuing with the theme that we started in 2017, we don't give guidance on product mix and we don't give guidance on pricing. One of our challenges as a materials company in this space is we are the only publicly-owned lead company. We only have, maybe less than 10 products in total, including all of the various grades of alloy that we would aspire to. And it would be very dangerous for us to put into the public domain percentages of wage and pricing. It will be very easy then for our competitors to back calculate meaningful commercial data from that. So we had to take the decision that we're not going to provide guidance on pricing or product mix.

Bhakti Pavani

Analyst

Actually, with regards to pricing, I wanted to understand was, I mean, historically you have mentioned that you can receive a premium to LME, is that still the case? Or would it be fair to assume that?

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

It would be fair to assume that some of the products will certainly attract a premium to LME.

Bhakti Pavani

Analyst

Okay. The second question with regard to capital expenditure. You did mention that in Q1, you expect the CapEx of $2 million to $3 million. Could you maybe able to provide information on the CapEx for the rest of the year?

Thomas Murphy

Analyst

We haven't given that out at this time.

Operator

Operator

We'll go next to Ben Padnos with DONE! Ventures.

Ben Padnos

Analyst

Just as a follow-up to the previous question. I do think it would be helpful for investors to understand a bit more about the business model. Could you talk a little bit about projected economics? You maybe not now are at scale of AquaRefined lead productivity. I mean, I guess, I'm saying you buy a battery of x dollars per pound, what's the cost to run the process and what's the projected price or margin when you sell the recycled lead?

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

Well, I respect to the question, Ben. And I -- we struggle with this one. We're not comfortable with the fact that, we're the only publicly traded lead company. And we've taken a decision that we're not going to provide that level of granularity that you and others have asked for at this time. I think as we progress as a business, it may come to a point where we can do that. But there is a massive tension between providing meaningful data to investors and stakeholders and providing a really dangerous window into our business operations for what is a fairly aggressive competitive market.

Ben Padnos

Analyst

Fair enough, I understand the competitive sensitivity, so I do appreciate that. I think it's a goal to get there, right, to give visibility and transparency as we mature as a business.

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

Absolutely, yes.

Thomas Murphy

Analyst

Yes, certainly, as the company gets up to full scale and operates for a period of time, it will become obvious what those economics are. And so it's really just as we're in this ramp period, trying to protect ourselves from attack from competitors.

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

Yes.

Ben Padnos

Analyst

And secondly, just, you've already mentioned JCI. It's now well known. It's out in the market that JCI is conducting a strategic review of their battery division. It sounds like essentially considering putting the whole business up on the block. Do you have any color or commentary, or anything you could share?

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

Yes, absolutely. I think we're one of the first people to know that, that had happened. And I'm not going to say more about that, other than we were assured proactively that it would have no impact on the relationship between the battery division and us. And Brian Wycklendt at JCI was with us yesterday, and we iterated that point. And I think the battery division, if it is sold, is likely to continue to be a battery division for some point in the future. It is right now the world's largest lead acid battery company. And I don't see that spinning it off would be -- is demise. I think spinning it off could actually accelerate its growth. And so we don't see that it really impacts what we're looking at, may actually create some additional opportunities.

Ben Padnos

Analyst

Great. All right. So we're on a roll. I know you said too but let me chirp in a third question. And it's really on competition. What are you hearing in the marketplace that's any potential competitive threat? We were first, but it's been a little longer than we thought to get out there. Anybody or anything that we're hearing in the marketplace that's posing a competition to what we're doing?

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

So no, it's a great point because when we entered in this market in 2014, we entered it at a point in time when the collective wisdom of the lead industry and the lead acid battery industry and they are not the same thing, was that everybody in these dogged attempted to do electrochemical recycling of lead acid batteries and that collective R&D have proven that it was not possible and not economic and, et cetera, et cetera. We took the view that every one of those initiatives were part of a company or an entity of which electrochemical recycling was a small part of their future going forward. We're different. We only do electrochemical recycling of lead. And I think that gives us a level of focus that maybe wasn't there with prior competitors. It would be foolish of us to imagine for a second that us coming to market wouldn't spur some of those closed research programs to restart and to encourage others to come into the market, and both at the industrial and the academic scale. One of the features of our technology is that we're proven and are proving that a branch of electrochemistry that is normally the sole area of -- dedicated to laboratory scale, let me put it that way. It was never before thought of something that could be scaled up. We've proven that actually it can be the case. And so we've seen an uptick in academic research. And we believe that one of the abandoned prior attempts to commercialize an electrochemical recycling technology has restarted. For me, the take-on is that we're still substantially ahead of the competition. Obviously, we're talking to companies who are in the lead and the lead acid battery industry. We're talking to actual and potential licensees. They're not shying comparing those 2 alternatives. And from those conversations, we believe that we're ahead. I think we -- all it means for us is we have to run harder and harder and harder to stay ahead. Again, it would be foolish for us to assume that we wouldn't see competition. The thing where I draw a great comfort is that, as others have said before me, competition is one of the highest forms of flattery.

Thomas Murphy

Analyst

I think it's safe to say that -- and certainly to the best of our knowledge, we are the only one trying this at the -- and doing this at the plant level.

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

Yes, absolutely. Yes, that's a good point. And there is another feature that I kind of need to bring up and that is we got our patent, and we got -- the very first patent that we got is very all-encompassing is, something like 34 claims in it. Can somebody will count that and tell me that is not over. So don't hold me up for exactly 34 claims. But it's a very broadly encompassing patent. We knew going in that there's a -- that academic field and research field is very crowded and we had to do something quite spectacularly different to succeed in this venture. And we're doing something spectacularly different, we got patents on something that we believe is spectacularly different. So I think our patents has put us in a tremendous position with respect to competition. The competitors that we're aware of are using the same old technologies that didn't quite make it before and falling over some of the same problems we suspect, I don't know. They are going to face the same problems that they faced previously. We think we've carved out a completely virgin space in intellectual property and, as Tom just mentioned, a commercial scale operation.

Operator

Operator

And that concludes today's question-and-answer session. At this time, I would like to turn the call back over to Dr. Steven Clarke for any additional or closing remarks.

Stephen Clarke

Analyst

I just want to say, thank you. I think we've made a tremendous effort over the past -- it took a couple of quarters. As I said before, we hit a problem we didn't expect to hit. We solved it and we solved it in a pretty resounding fashion, not only solving a problem, but actually deriving benefit for the business and solving that problem going forward. So I just want to say thank you very much for participating in the call and thank you for your continued interest in following us. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

And that concludes the Aqua Metals' Fourth Quarter 2017 Corporate Update Call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.