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ArcBest Corporation (ARCB)

Q1 2015 Earnings Call· Mon, May 4, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. And welcome to the ArcBest Corporation First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Afterwards, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded Monday, May 04, 2015. I’d like to turn the conference over to David Humphrey, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

David Humphrey

Analyst

Welcome to the ArcBest Corporation first quarter 2015 earnings conference call. We’ll have a short discussion of the first quarter results, and we’ll open up for question-and-answer period. Our presentation this morning will be done by Ms. Judy R. McReynolds, President and Chief Executive Officer of ArcBest Corporation; and Mr. David R. Cobb, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of ArcBest Corporation. We thank you for joining us today. In order to help you better understand ArcBest Corporation and its results, some forward-looking statements could be made during this call. As you all know, forward-looking statements by their very nature are subject to uncertainties and risks. For a more complete discussion of factors that could affect the company’s future results, please refer to the Forward-Looking Statements section of the company’s earnings press release and the company’s most recent SEC public filings. In order to provide meaningful comparisons, certain information discussed in this conference call includes non-GAAP financial measures as outlined in the tables in our earnings press release. We will now begin with Mr. Cobb.

David Cobb

Analyst

Good morning. Thank you for joining us this morning. ArcBest first quarter 2015 revenues increased 6% to $613 million. All of our operating companies experienced positive growth in the quarter, despite the impact of significantly lower fuel surcharges associated with a decline in diesel fuel prices. We earned $0.03 per share in the quarter compared to net loss of $0.20 per share last year. Excluding adjustments for pension settlement charges of $0.03 per share related to our nonunion defined benefit pension plan, we reported first quarter net income of $1.4 million or $0.06 per share, which is similarly adjusted $0.11 loss in the prior year quarter. First quarter 2015 was negatively impacted by severe winter weather. Although, less severe than the prior year. We experienced increases in healthcare claims costs with all our best companies, approximately $2.9 million, which is twice the expected level. As we mentioned in early March Business Update, Panther in addition to the unusual healthcare costs had terrible experience in casualty claims that were primarily weather related. The associated first quarter casualty claims charge was [$700,000] [ph]. The higher than expected consolidated healthcare costs in the financial casualty claims impacted operating results by combined $0.05 per share. Our low effective tax rate in the first quarter was primarily related to the reductions in deferred tax liabilities associated with lower tax rates enacted by few states.. We continue to expect our full year 2015 tax rate to be in the range of 37% to 40% as the adjustment that occurred in the first quarter are only expected to have a small impact on our annual tax rate. In February, we generated previously authorized stock repurchase program evolves 64,200 shares of our stock for total amount of $2.5 million. Remaining amount authorized to repurchase under this program is…

Judy McReynolds

Analyst

Hi, everyone, and thanks for joining us. It's very exciting for us to report our first quarter profit for the first time in seven years, as it gives us confidence we are moving in the right direction and our employees are really working hard on behalf of customers. While there is always more work to do, there were certainly some bright spots in the quarter. First, I'll talk about ABF Freight. During the first quarter ABF Freight continued to emphasize meeting the specific needs of customers, while working to improve efficiency of its freight network. So tonnage handled was slightly below that of last year's first quarter, system resources were directed toward handling tonnage received from traditional LTL shippers. As a result, this portion of our business experienced year-over-year growth during the quarter. Efficiencies and improved dock handling resulted from experience gained by dock employees hired throughout last year and from management emphasis on improving ABF Freight’s performance as measured against key operational goals. Improvements in the dock handling metrics were reflected in year-over-year and sequential comparisons of the first quarter. As David mentioned earlier, those improvements have continued in April. David also described how the level of ABF Freight's total first quarter price increase versus last year was meaningfully impacted by lower fuel prices and the resulting decline in fuel surcharge. Increases on true freight rates excluding fuel surcharge were better than the reported total increase. Throughout the first quarter, retention of ABF Freight’s November 2014 general rate increase was good. You'll recall it was the second GRI of 2014 and it impacted about one-third of our total business. In the first quarter, we also successfully concluded negotiations on contract and deferred pricing accounts with increases of 5.1%, which is the best first quarter level in 15 years. During…

David Humphrey

Analyst

Okay, Nicky. I think we are ready for some questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from line of Bill Greene with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Bill Greene

Analyst

Yeah. Hi, there. Good morning.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst

Good morning, Bill.

David Cobb

Analyst

Hi, Bill.

Bill Greene

Analyst

Hey. Judy, in you comments you mentioned the GRI. I have sort of two questions on that. First, can you talk about what you think the ability of the industry to get us another GRI this year is? And secondly, as we look at the second quarter, when we think sequentially we will have that GRI. So is that sort of a major kind of headwind versus seasonality that we need to keep in mind when we think about the OR changes this quarter? Thank you.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst

Well, Bill. I think from the standpoint of will the industry be able to support another GRI this year, I would certainly assume so. I can't really speak to the timing of that, but I certainly believe that there'll be one. And then with respect to our situation, of course, we don't give guidance specific to the second quarter but our history shows about 5 or 6 point OR improvement in our results when you moved into the second quarter, compare back to the first quarter. And so that’s something I'm sure that you probably had in your modeling but to use in your modeling. And it is -- when you look at the revenue per hundredweight year-over-year change, not having that second GRI is going to have an impact or it is having an impact, as we move into the second quarter. But we believe that our indications from the deferred and contract price increases that we have gained both in the first quarter, I think it was over 5% and here in April it's about 4.8%. Those are good indications of what we are experiencing in the decisions that are being made this year as far as pricing goes. So that’s just some additional information for you.

Bill Greene

Analyst

That's great. Thank you.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst

Thank you, Bill.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Chris Wetherbee with Citi. Please go ahead.

Chris Wetherbee

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Good morning, guys.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Hi, Chris.

Chris Wetherbee

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Just thinking about sort of the outlook for tonnage for the year, kind of curios to get your take. The comps seems like they are relatively sort of static in terms of year-over-year growth from last year as we go through at least 2Q and then probably progressing onto the rest of the year. So should we think about that? You say you kind of lost some tonnage maybe to weather in the first quarter. Should we expect positive numbers going forward?

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

The April indication that we -- I think David mentioned in his comments is that we are seeing an increase in April and so that's the indication that we have so far this quarter.

Chris Wetherbee

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Okay. In terms of the feedback you're getting from customers in terms of just comfort with the economy, the overall sort of macro trends, just kind of curios to have some commentary around that?

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

We recently spoke to our sales leads and in recent monthly staff meeting. And when I recall their commentary being is that the customers seem pretty positive. We are not hearing anything that’s of concerns out of that group and felt like they were pretty bullish on the prospects for revenue growth for our company this year.

Chris Wetherbee

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Okay. That’s helpful. If I can squeeze more before David cuts me off here. I want to just see if I could ask a question about employee productivity going forward. You’ve had a couple of quarters where there has been a ramp up here in productivity as you get some more seasoning for this workforce. How should we think about that obviously tonnage growth? You probably need to hire a few people or do you feel comfortable with the kind of group that you have and just going to get better productivity as year goes on? Thanks for the time. Appreciate it.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Well, the hiring of people will be dependent on business levels, and so that’s always going to be the case. And our I think ABF Freight in particular does a good job of matching those people with the level of business that we have and we have the flexibility to do that. From a dock productivity standpoint, we’ve seen about a 3.5% increase there and that’s a good sign. We’re still struggling a little bit with street productivity. So we’ve got some opportunities there to improve that. But it’s certainly an opportunity from a cost standpoint for us to increase the productivity of the people that we’ve hired. And we have -- and again, this is based on business volumes, but we have reduced the number of people that we’re hiring. It’s significantly less than it was last year at the same time. So that gives you the opportunity to really work with those people and get them on an improved productivity path which we’re seeing.

Chris Wetherbee

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

That’s great. Thank you very much.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

David Cobb

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Chris.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Matt Brooklier with Longbow Research. Please go ahead.

Matt Brooklier

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead.

Yes. Thanks. Good morning.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead.

Hi, Matt.

Matt Brooklier

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead.

Hello. So I -- just a question on purchase transportation, I know that we see some impact from the fuel surcharge and the change in the quarter, but it looks like there potentially were some other things going on in terms of the cost coming down. I was just curious to hear there are any changes in the quarter that impacted that particular expense line and then maybe how we should think about purchase transportation as the year progresses.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead.

Well, we certainly focused on that area for cost management in the quarter. I think we had mentioned in previous conference calls our intention to do that and we certainly did that. So we saw lower cost from cartage agents. So we saw lower cost in the rented equipment area and we’ve reduced our use of purchase transportation both with truckload carriers as well as inrail. And so we utilized more heavily our personnel in the first quarter and we were pleased with the result of that. We felt like the all-in cost for us was better placed as a result of those decisions.

Matt Brooklier

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead.

Okay. Good to hear. And then just second question, curious to hear if the West Coast ports had an impact either on your LTL business or if there is potentially also an impact in terms of works you’re doing at Panther’s? Thanks.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead.

The West Coast ports really didn’t have a major impact on any of our businesses for the quarter and we are really not seeing much change in that as we move into April. We had some opportunities ready and prepared and utilized to some extent for customers helping them in situations where they had a need for expediting some shipments out of there or having just alternatives to their typical approach that they might use, whether it would be rail or some other approach that would have resulted in the slower trends at time. And so we had again a limited amount of business that we did that with. Panther saw some area of opportunities, as a result customers wanting to skip that hole, experience all together, and so we feel good about what we offer to customers that I have to say that we didn’t see a great volume of business attach to that. It still could come, it may come at a busier time of the year and we are still hearing that, but we will believe it whenever we see it.

Matt Brooklier

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead.

Appreciate the color.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead.

Yes. Thanks.

David Cobb

Analyst · Longbow Research. Please go ahead.

Thanks a lot, Matt.

Operator

Operator

Hi. Next question comes from the line of Brad Delco with Stephens Inc. Please go ahead.

Brad Delco

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead.

Good morning, Judy. Good morning, David. How is it going?

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead.

Good.

Brad Delco

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead.

Judy, I wanted to just focus a little bit on the year-over-year trends. When I go back to last year, I know you had some productivity issues with the ramp of dock workers that you are hiring and you also had rail services issues. Is there any way to sort of quantify kind of what cost impact that had on your business? And it seems like productivity is getting better, but I would imagine rail service as well is allowing to see that purchase trends line go down as well. Can you just kind of quantify that for us?

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead.

Well, I think what I gave earlier is probably the best information that we have. We’ve seen dock productivity improve about 3.5%. If you look back at the employees that we hired from March to July of last year, we have seen their productivity improve even from where they were in December to March level. And so again on our overall productivity you are seeing maybe that offset a little by our street productivity, which is an area that we still need to improve in. Rail service did affect us as you mentioned. One of the things that we did last year to try to combat that was use more purchase transportation. If you look at our line item, that’s called rents and purchase transportation, you can see those costs manage down when really you’re in kind of a flat tonnage situation. So that’s something that I think would be helpful to you. But I think what you see this year that you didn’t see last year is just more options and opportunities to address your freight movements. And our choice has been to better utilize our people. We feel like that that gives us the best selling cost.

David Cobb

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead.

Yes. Brad, just to add to that, our rail utilization declined about 7% year-over-year. And the other thing in the purchase transportation that you see is fuel surcharge associated with those services. So that's also obviously declining.

Brad Delco

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead.

Hey, great. Thanks for the time, guys.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

David Cobb

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Brad.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of David Ross with Stifel Nicolaus. Please go ahead.

Bruce Chan

Analyst · Stifel Nicolaus. Please go ahead.

Yes. Good morning, Judy, David, and David. It’s actually Bruce Chan on for Dave.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Stifel Nicolaus. Please go ahead.

Hi, Bruce.

David Cobb

Analyst · Stifel Nicolaus. Please go ahead.

Hey, Bruce.

Bruce Chan

Analyst · Stifel Nicolaus. Please go ahead.

Hi. So quick question here. Obviously, the goal is to onboard as many of your traditional freight customers on to the non-asset-based services as possible. I'm wondering if you have a breakdown of the percentage of international customers versus field accounts that are using those non-asset-based services and whether there is a higher uptake with one versus the other.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Stifel Nicolaus. Please go ahead.

Yes. That’s actually a really good question. We do see a greater utilization of multiple services with our larger accounts, but we've seen our smaller accounts really increase in terms of growth over the last couple years. So that's been an interesting thing to evaluate. I’ve actually been looking at that myself more carefully recently to try to better understand where our best opportunities are. But when you think about it, the larger shipper that needs to utilize more options is probably where you're going to have your best conversation, although one of the things that we find with smaller shippers is they’re more interested in us managing the entire process for them. In many cases, they find value in utilizing the services that ABF Logistics has combined with the ABF Freight services because it gives them kind of the best total answer for them. At times they’ll need guaranteed service and we’ll be able to utilize combinations that include the facilities for ABF Freight. And other companies that they might be able to gain services from don't necessarily have all those options. So we’ve really liked the fact that we have the control if you will over the network. And in some cases, the Panther owner operators help us with that as well because we can get more of an answer that gives the customer certainty where whenever you're using kind of traditional third-party relationships, you might not have as much certainty in that. So it's kind of an interesting thing as the company evolves, but we’re really finding that customer see a lot of value in the combinations that we present to them. And we would need another hour on this call to talk about all the ways that we’ve utilized that.

Bruce Chan

Analyst · Stifel Nicolaus. Please go ahead.

Great. Well, that’s very helpful. Thank you.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Stifel Nicolaus. Please go ahead.

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is coming from Rob Salmon with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Rob Salmon

Analyst

Hey, good morning.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst

Good morning, Rob.

David Cobb

Analyst

Hey, Rob.

Rob Salmon

Analyst

I guess circling back to the productivity. You had indicated that kind of the dock productivity I think was up 3.5%. Was that for the entire of Q1? Or is that kind of what you're looking at in the month of April, because I think you had indicated in the prepared remarks that it was actually improving subsequent in the month of April? So if that was a Q1 number. Could you give us an update how much of an improvement you guys have seen month to date in April?

Judy McReynolds

Analyst

Well, this is a Q1 number and it’s a sequential, it’s up 3.5%, up sequentially 3.8% so that gives you some sense of how it compared back to the fourth quarter. And Rob, we don't have the full number for April as yet. We could give that at a later point when perhaps, we’re doing an update midquarter but we don't have that today.

Rob Salmon

Analyst

That’s helpful, Judy.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst

Yeah, it’s better but it's just -- we don’t have that number finalized.

Rob Salmon

Analyst

And I guess, you had been calling out as well that there is some headwinds that you're experiencing at least with regard to the pickup and delivery side? I'm curious what you think is driving that because shipments per day are up nicely, which I would think would add some operating leverage to the P&D operations?

Judy McReynolds

Analyst

Well, again if you look at where we need to be from a service standpoint, that’s largely the issue. What we’re doing is looking at, making sure that we give good service to customers so that creates a need to have a certain amount of activity. And what I'm suggesting to you is that we're not as efficient with that activity and those decisions as we could be. And so there's an opportunity there to improve that.

Rob Salmon

Analyst

Okay. That’s helpful. I guess the final which I’d just like a little bit more color is Judy, you’d mentioned on the purchase transportation that you're using kind of more internal linehauls, is this driven just by kind of network optimization or the tonnage been down a little bit allow that opportunity because obviously we got lower rate per shipment with shipments up and tonnage down.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst

I think last year we were in situation where rail service was an issue. We were -- we were actually new to the game of using more purchase transportation in terms of truckload carriers because we had just gotten the contract finalized in the previous November. And so I think this year we just have better visibility and better options. And so I think it's really just a function of that.

Rob Salmon

Analyst

Perfect. Thank you.

David Cobb

Analyst

Thanks Rob.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Shawn Collins with the Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Shawn Collins

Analyst · the Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Great. Thank you. Good morning Judy and David and David.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · the Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Good morning.

David Cobb

Analyst · the Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Hey Shawn.

Shawn Collins

Analyst · the Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Thanks. So as you continue to build out your emerging non-asset base segment, can you talk about what you're seeing on the competition side. Is that remaining stable, remaining competitive or are you seeing increase in competition or even possibly decrease in competition there if you could provide any context around that?

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · the Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Well, I think what we see is that we have a fairly unique set of offerings and what’s even added to that is our interest in making sure that we are best coordinating those for our customers. And so we don't see that as much from others and we really feel like that that's a differentiator for us plus the combination of options that we have as I mentioned earlier with our asset base network as well as our third-party relationships and then the Panther owner-operators really gives us something that -- in terms of combinations that you can provide to customers something that's fairly unique in the marketplace. Also it’s interesting because our greatest opportunity is within customers that we already know. So really what we are doing is better penetrating those customer relationships with better answers for the customers. And so when we think about competition, perhaps we don't see it as much because we are again working with customers that we know and really having a good discussion with them about utilizing us for more services. And so although we see out there plenty of good competitors and all these different service offerings, we feel good about the combination of things that we are providing to the marketplace and where that places us.

Shawn Collins

Analyst · the Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Okay. Great. That's helpful. Thank you for your time and the information.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · the Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Shawn.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Willard Milby with BB&T. Please go ahead.

Willard Milby

Analyst · BB&T. Please go ahead.

Hey. Good morning everyone. Just wanted to ask on D&A, do you kind of expect that to ramp-up in the remaining quarters of the year in freight and the rest of businesses? Didn’t know if you had a target that you all are willing to disclose for 2015.

David Cobb

Analyst · BB&T. Please go ahead.

Yeah. Willard, this is David. We had given a guidance range of around $95 million to a $100 million for the full year on depreciation and amortization. We are probably going to be on the lower end of that, as you’ve noticed from our CapEx being a little lower than perhaps on a run rate basis what we had originally projected so.

Willard Milby

Analyst · BB&T. Please go ahead.

Okay. Great. And in past calls you’ve given the percent miles on truck. I was wondering if you all can give that again, given the -- I think you can wrap to 6% and I think you did about 1.9% in the March quarter of last year, just want to see how that compared?

David Cobb

Analyst · BB&T. Please go ahead.

Yes. We did -- sorry, let me find it here. It was 0.6% for the quarter.

Willard Milby

Analyst · BB&T. Please go ahead.

All right. Great. That's all for me. Thanks.

David Cobb

Analyst · BB&T. Please go ahead.

Thanks Will.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · BB&T. Please go ahead.

Thanks Will.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Matt Young with Morningstar. Please go ahead.

Matt Young

Analyst · Morningstar. Please go ahead.

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Morningstar. Please go ahead.

Good morning, Matt.

David Cobb

Analyst · Morningstar. Please go ahead.

Hey Matt.

Matt Young

Analyst · Morningstar. Please go ahead.

Hey. Could you give us some additional color on the truckload shipment trends you are talking about that we are in the network last year? With truckload capacity likely to be tightening ahead, would you allow that to come back into the network if the demand was there or is it something that you'd rather kind of keep off the system?

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Morningstar. Please go ahead.

Well, I’ll tell you what we’d like to have is the best balanced answer that we could have. That’s what we are always trying to achieve. I mean, we like those shipments when they help us balance the network and that's what we are always trying to achieve. And so what’s difficult and that's what we've experienced this, when you have changing dynamics in the marketplace which last year, the marketplace was excessively tight in terms of capacity. This year, it’s less but it’s a little softer. And so you are always trying to make sure that you have the shipments that are appropriate and dealing with the changes in the marketplaces is always the challenge. But we like those shipments, when they help us balance the network. We had seen in the latter part of the first quarter an uptick in our MTs. And so we encouraged a little bit more of that business to come back. But what we do going forward will depend on, again the business that's out there. We want to be sure and serve our LTL customers and we will adjust that accordingly based on our needs in the LTL network.

David Cobb

Analyst · Morningstar. Please go ahead.

And Matt, those shipments can be profitable as long as the price is right.

Matt Young

Analyst · Morningstar. Please go ahead.

Well, that makes sense. But I’m guessing some of the less of the demand for the truckload side of it is more related to the comparisons since last year first quarter was exceptionally tight more than a material loosening in truckload capacity? I’m assuming it’s more of a comp this year.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Morningstar. Please go ahead.

Yes. I think you are reading that right.

Matt Young

Analyst · Morningstar. Please go ahead.

Okay. Thanks.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst · Morningstar. Please go ahead.

I think that’s right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is a follow-up from the line of Brad Delco with Stephens Inc. Please go ahead.

Brad Delco

Analyst

Yeah. Thanks for taking the follow-up.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst

Hi Brad.

Brad Delco

Analyst

Judy, just want to ask you guys bought back some stock in February and was curious what your comfort level was with leverage in the balance sheet and maybe with the little reduced CapEx plan. What you expect the debt levels to look like throughout the year?

Judy McReynolds

Analyst

Well, we wouldn’t expect our -- for instance, our debt to equity ratio to materially change. As we go throughout the year, we’re going to be doing some financing on our CapEx with equipment financing. And we feel good about that. You’ve heard David probably in his prepared comments give you the interest rate, the overall interest rate we have on that debt. So we are comfortable there. But our share repurchases, we continue to expect to do some of those. We would particularly like to offset any dilution that we have from our restricted share unit program and so we’re interested in that. And what you saw in the first quarter as we go through the year is something that I would expect to -- that have as a part of our overall program again.

Brad Delco

Analyst

Got you. But there is no way that you comfortable with two times leverage on the EBITDA basis, there is no way to look at it from that perspective?

Judy McReynolds

Analyst

Yeah. We really -- difference there, Brad is what we do on the acquisition side. So it's hard for me to give you some kind of rule of thumb that’s on that basis. Because we really want to be sure that if the right acquisition opportunity come, that we’re most prepared for that. And so -- and in some of the other areas share repurchases and dividends, we’re a little bit more modest in what we're doing there, then maybe in some past years. But it's really to make sure that we have the resources that we need for the right acquisition opportunity.

Brad Delco

Analyst

Okay. Great. Do you care to provide any update in terms of what may be attractive to you in terms of -- I imagine it’s something to expand the emerging non-asset-based business but anything in particular you can share there?

Judy McReynolds

Analyst

Well. I think, that’s the focus and the reason that that's the focus is because we need scale in our logistics businesses. And that’s where we could gain that scale quickly. But we’re most interested in expanding our ABF Logistics business. But if we found something that was interesting that would facilitate scale in the Panther business, that made sense, we would be interested there as well.

Brad Delco

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thanks for the follow-up.

Judy McReynolds

Analyst

Yeah. Thanks Brad.

David Cobb

Analyst

Okay. Thanks a lot Brad.

Operator

Operator

And Mr. Humphrey, I’ll turn the call back to you.

David Humphrey

Analyst

Okay. Well, this now concludes our call. We thank you for joining us this morning. We appreciate your interest in ArcBest Corporation. Thanks a lot. We’ll see you next quarter.