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Apollo Commercial Real Estate Finance, Inc. (ARI)

Q4 2019 Earnings Call· Fri, Feb 14, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Fourth Quarter 2019 Apollo Commercial Real Estate Finance Inc. Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participant lines are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] I like to remind everyone that today's call and webcast are being recorded. Please note that they are the property of Apollo Commercial Real Estate Finance, Inc. and that any unauthorized broadcast in any form is strictly prohibited.Information about the audio replay of the call is available in our earnings press release. I'd also like to call your attention to the customary safe harbor disclosure in our press release regarding forward-looking statements. Today's conference call and webcast may include forward-looking statements and projections and we ask that you refer to our most recent filings with the SEC for important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements and projections.In addition, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP measures on this call, which management believe are relevant to addressing the company's financial performance and are reconciled to GAAP figures in our earnings press release, which is available on the Investor Relations section of our website. We do not undertake any obligation to update our forward-looking statements or projections unless required by law. To obtain copies of the latest SEC filings, please visit our website at www.apolloreit.com or call us at 212-515-3200.At this time, I like to turn the call over to the company's Chief Executive Officer, Stuart Rothstein.

Stuart Rothstein

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good morning and thank you to those of you who are joining us on the Apollo Commercial Real Estate Finance year end 2019 earnings call. Joining me in New York this morning is our Chief Financial Officer, Jai Agarwal. I would like to begin the call by reviewing some of the highlights of a very successful 2019 and providing an update on the portfolio. I’ll conclude with some additional color on the dividend announcement contained in yesterday’s earnings release and then turn the call over to Jai for an update on our financial results.During 2019, we celebrated ARI’s tenth year as a public company and we are extremely proud of the success and growth of the company since 2009, as well as the strength of the platform we have built. Apollo’s Commercial Real Estate credit team has established a leading position in the market predicated on extensive relationships and a well-earned reputation as a reliable thoughtful and creative capital source.During the year, ARI committed to $4.2 billion of loan transactions and the strength and breadth of the platform was evidenced by the diversity of deal types, property types and geographies represented in the book of business. Highlights for the past year include a broadening of our geographic footprint throughout Europe, as well as several sizeable transactions, which we believe speak to the benefits ARI receives from the overall Apollo platform.Specifically, our European team had a breakout year in 2019 completing over $2.6 billion of transactions on behalf of ARI and successfully expanding our business into Germany, Italy, and Spain. Apollo has been an active equity investor in European Real Estate and the integrated platform enables the commercial real estate credit team in London to benefit from shared relationships, resources, and real time market information when originating and…

Jai Agarwal

Analyst

For the fourth quarter of 2019, our operating earnings were $70.9 million or $0.46 per share. GAAP net income for the quarter was $68.5 million or $0.42 per share. During the fourth quarter, we closed nine loan transactions, totaling over 2.2 billion, 1.2 billion of which were funded during the quarter. We also funded an additional 143 million for previously closed loans.Repayments during the quarter totaled 1.2 billion, resulting in net portfolio growth of 4%. All of the new loans were floating-rate mortgages. At the end of the year, our portfolio was comprised of 72 loans and had an amortized cost of 6.4 billion, a 30% increase over last year. The portfolio had a weighted average unlevered yield of 7.4%, and a fully extended remaining term of just over three years.We have approximately 1.9 billion of future funding commitments, roughly 850 million of which we expect to fund in 2020. Approximately 1.5 billion of our U.S. loan portfolio has LIBOR floors that are currently in the money. These loans have an expected remaining term of just over one year where the weighted average LIBOR floor is 2.1%.With respect to liquidity and leverage, as of quarter end, we had over 750 million of available capital in the form of cash and availability on our credit lives. We ended the quarter with 1.4 times debt from equity ratio. As the portfolio migrates towards first mortgage loans, our leverage will gradually increase. During the quarter, we entered into a repurchase agreement with Barclays Bank bringing total financing capacity to 4.3 billion with six counterparties.Lastly, I would like to mention the upcoming accounting guidance on current expected credit losses, or CECL. We expect our January 1, 2020 additional CECL result to be approximately $31 million or 60 basis points of our amortized cost, which will have a $0.20 impact to book value per share. For further in information, please refer to our Form 10-K filed last night.And with that, we’d like to open the line for questions. Operator, please go ahead.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question will come from the line of Stephen Laws from Raymond James. You may begin.

Stephen Laws

Analyst

Hi, good morning.

Stuart Rothstein

Analyst

Good morning, Stephen.

Stephen Laws

Analyst

Good morning. Appreciate the comments. Stuart, I guess first if you can start with the Miami asset and talk about where the process goes from here and timing of how you expect to the points you know at this point any outlook on timing of resolution of that loan.

Stuart Rothstein

Analyst

Yes. At this point, brokers have been retained, brokerage is out to the market, NDAs have been signed and are still being signed. I think there is north of 50 at this point. So, there is significant investor interest. It’s obviously a somewhat complex project given the redevelopment nature of it and there is effectively two different parcels. I would expect we will learn a lot more in the next six to eight weeks as we start to get feedback back from investors and people dig in and ask questions.I think realistically, we would certainly expect that when we’re doing this again two months from now, there should be a lot more color on the process and sort of more information with respect to potential scenarios and likely outcomes, but the deals in the market now, the initial response is what we would have hoped for in terms of investor interest, and then we will know a lot more six weeks to eight weeks from now after people have a chance to underwrite, dig and do their diligence, but it’s off to the ratios at this point.

Stephen Laws

Analyst

Appreciate the color there. Jai, a couple of questions. First on the average, you know it makes perfect sense, we increase as the mix of senior loans increase, is there – mathematically how should we think about it or where is, is there a target for where you would run leverage if it was a 100% senior loans as we kind of think about ramping to get there as the mix of mezz continues to decline?

Stuart Rothstein

Analyst

Yes. I think Stephen the way we think about it is, you know at a high level to your point if we ran the goalpost, right? There'd be effectively zero leverage if we were all mezzanine loans and most first mortgages today are being financed somewhere between 2.5 to 3 times on an individual deal basis.I think it’s important to as you think about that as a goalpost and I'm not sure we ever get to the extremes of either a goalpost, the other thing that I think is particularly relevant is, as leverage moves up, sort of the mix of that leverage, whether it is a repo specific leverage or whether it’s an asset specific term leverage, which we’ve actually approached the market several times successfully, either on the convertible note side or on the term loan side.We ended this quarter at 1.4 times. So, there is a long way to go as we start thinking about those goalpost, but the way I would think about it is on an individual deal. We’re probably no more than 2.5 to 3 terms leverage on an individual repo financing and from a corporate finance strategy; our desire will always be to mix both repo, as well as non-asset specific term leverage.

Stephen Laws

Analyst

Great. Those comments are helpful. And last question for me, regarding CECL, our last topic, as I think about CECL and how the reserve shifts from here, I know it’s not broken out, but how will the 50 basis points trend as the mix shifts to senior loans, and additionally regarding the Miami development is there a specific reserve there or how big of a component is the general reserve related to the new 4-related asset?

Jai Agarwal

Analyst

There is no specific reserve on that asset just yet. And then to answer your first question, as we shift our portfolio mix, right. So, mezz loans generally have higher CECL reserves in terms of percentages. So, and mortgage loans have smaller percentage CECL reserve. So, if our portfolio becomes 100% fresh mortgages, say, our percentage CECL reserve would go down, so their 50 basis point number would go down significantly.

Stephen Laws

Analyst

Okay. Can you quantify that impact or is it still too early in this process to know exactly where that would shift?

Jai Agarwal

Analyst

It’s still too early given that future funding components might change, loan expectations might change, credit quality might change, macroeconomic views et cetera might change, so it’s still too early to quantify that.

Stephen Laws

Analyst

But is it safe to assume given the focus on increasing the mix of senior loans were likely not going to an increase in the CECL reserve run to the income statement or how should we think about the reserve on a go forward basis?

Jai Agarwal

Analyst

That’s fair. If we were to just shift the portfolio than you would not see an increase in the CECL reserve, but if you were to just simply grow, right, then you would see an increase in the CECL reserve.

Stephen Laws

Analyst

Yes. Okay. Great, thanks for the clarification. Thanks Jai.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Rick Shane from JPMorgan. You may begin.

Rick Shane

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning guys. Just wanted to follow-up on the CECL question and related to the unfunded commitments, our understanding is you guys do have to take CECL reserve against unfunded. The ratio on the balance sheet between funded and unfunded is at a relatively high watermark for you guys, curious sort of how you think about that going forward in a CECL environment because there is $1 billion there that won't be funded until next year based on the comments we heard, but you’ll have to take a reserve for it today.

Jai Agarwal

Analyst

Yes. I mean look, there is a “CECL penalty” on these unfunded commitments, but we don't think that impacts our business. We also, the CECL penalties if we will is not a 100% of the unfunded commitments because you do have to sit there and estimate a time-weighted component of that. So, if you have unfunded commitments of $2 billion, the CECL reserve could theoretically be on say half of that.

Rick Shane

Analyst

Got it. And how – from a capital perspective, how do you manage this? How much visibility do you have, do you get sort of two quarters of visibility from the developers about what the draw is going to be a year, how does that work?

Jai Agarwal

Analyst

I mean depends on a loan-by-loan basis, but somewhere between six months to one-year visibility.

Rick Shane

Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much guys.

Stuart Rothstein

Analyst

But just to be clear, Rick, we’ve got a – on any construction deal, right, we’ve got a construction consultant working on the Apollo side of the equation as well, right. So, we’re part of the monthly – call it construction draw cost estimate process and have reasonable visibility as Jai says, looking out 6 months to 12 months in terms of what’s coming. It’s not just getting an estimate from the developer, it’s a more active process and we’re very much sitting at the construction table getting a sense of what’s coming in the future.

Rick Shane

Analyst

Got it. So, this is also based on sort of your own assessment or milestone achievement?

Stuart Rothstein

Analyst

Yes.

Jai Agarwal

Analyst

That's right.

Rick Shane

Analyst

Great. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Jade Ramani from KBW. You may begin.

Jade Ramani

Analyst

Thanks very much. To start with, the revised dividends, does that take into account the lower Steinway yield and the nonaccrual on Miami?

Stuart Rothstein

Analyst

Yes.

Jade Ramani

Analyst

Can you give some color as to the Steinway loan and what the revised yield is, what your – what ARI’s exposure is at this point and if the additional equity went to pay down any of the debt?

Stuart Rothstein

Analyst

In no particular order, the additional equity didn't go to pay down debt. It was to basically ensure that there is, and sort of any reasonable eventuality more than sufficient capital to complete the development. Without being overly specific on where ARI’s return went, we were sort of plus or minus 20% on our old capital and we are, call it plus or minus [10-ish percent] or 11% on our new capital. The overall capital commitment as of today…

Jai Agarwal

Analyst

It’s about $260 million.

Stuart Rothstein

Analyst

260 of a mix of both senior and junior mezz and as we said in my comments, this was basically us and the other lenders sort of putting in a place a capital structure that gets this thing to completion, gets it to the point where they’ve started closing some additional units, and fully expect, but as they move towards that will be taken out with some sort of inventory refinancing towards the later part of this year.

Jade Ramani

Analyst

I think commercial mortgage reported that they were looking for a refinance. So, does that suggest that there was an interest from other lenders at this point?

Stuart Rothstein

Analyst

I would say I am not going to be in a position of speculating on the accuracy of things that are in commercial mortgage.

Jade Ramani

Analyst

Okay. And do you have an update as to what percentage of the units have been sold?

Stuart Rothstein

Analyst

We have information, but they haven't released anything publicly, so I’m not at liberty to sell.

Jade Ramani

Analyst

Okay. On the Miami Design District loan JZ Capital, which is a partner with RedSky Capital on February 10 published an update in which they said that both the Miami Design District loan and the Fulton Street loan, the – not the loan, their equity in it, would be completely written off. In other words, they don't expect any recovery in value. So, do you expect any impairment on either of those loans?

Stuart Rothstein

Analyst

Based on the accounting treatment we use this quarter, the answer would be no. Again, I’m not at liberty to comment on why they did or what they didn't do, but sitting here today we believe that both loans are value protected in terms of our loan basis.

Jade Ramani

Analyst

And in terms of the, how those or how the Miami Project will be marketed since I don't believe there’s been much leasing, so there’s not much cash flow, on what basis will the project be marketed, is it going to be priced on some dollar amount per acre or per square feet of developable space, what’s going to be the fiber of value there?

Stuart Rothstein

Analyst

It’s a redevelopment site no different than any other redevelopment site that gets marketed there. The existing building is there that were intentionally emptied out, but still sit there as buildings. So, anybody's pro forma could assume they might want to release for a period of time and develop on one parcel versus another parcel, but it is existing real estate that is zoned for significantly more density, adjacent to an existing area who’s metrics in terms of sales per square foot of their current tenancy are increasing rapidly and the acceptance of the Design District as a true sub market or as a true commerce area.The metrics are getting better every day. So, it’s being marketed as a redevelopment site. There's also flexibility in terms of what people decide to put on the site and obviously based on what they determine in terms of asset type whether office, hotel, or retail will have an impact on how they think about value.

Jade Ramani

Analyst

Okay. In terms of this quarter's earnings, $0.46, I believe included about $0.02 of prepayment income. So, $0.44 should be a run rate. There were some back-end weighted originations and you also noted originations to date. We know that the blended yield on incremental deals is 5.6%, and we can make an assumption on what’s paying off, and then the modification in Steinway, which I believe Steinway was running at around 20% of the company's earnings and then the Design District, non-accruing interest. Is it reasonable to assume, from a modeling standpoint that earnings will meet or exceed the dividend, perhaps exceed the dividend in the early part of the year and then run lower through the back end of the year depending on the cadence of investment activity?

Stuart Rothstein

Analyst

I actually think about it the reverse way Jade, to be clear, when we talked about the dividend, predominantly most of our dividend discussions with the board focus on annual performance not quarterly performance, which we’ve talked about many times before, but as you look at how 2020 is shaping up and some of the comments that you made leading into your question and then obviously some knowledge we have about the timing of when we expect things to repay, when we expect certain future fundings to take place, as well as some other things in the pipeline.We would expect that trend for the year actually to be more upward sloping in terms of earnings. So, sort of be at a low point in the early part of the year and then moving up throughout the year and then potentially some upside beyond that depending on the pacing and timing of some of the assets that you referred to getting resolved?

Jade Ramani

Analyst

Okay. And on the full-year basis, covering the dividend, meeting or exceeding the dividend?

Stuart Rothstein

Analyst

Yes.

Jade Ramani

Analyst

And on the repo facilities, given the mix towards Europe, what is the all-in cost running at right now?

Jai Agarwal

Analyst

[The online] cost is close to L plus 2, slightly over L plus 2 with fees.

Jade Ramani

Analyst

Okay. Thanks very much.

Jai Agarwal

Analyst

Thanks Jade.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And I’m currently showing no – any further questions at this time. I like to turn the call back over to Stuart for any closing remarks.

Stuart Rothstein

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Thanks for those of you participating this morning.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.