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Arrow Electronics, Inc. (ARW)

Q3 2025 Earnings Call· Thu, Oct 30, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Arrow Electronics Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Michael Nelson, Arrow's Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Michael Nelson

Management

Thank you, operator. I'd like to welcome everyone to the Arrow Electronics Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me on the call today is our Interim President and Chief Executive Officer, Bill Austen; our Chief Financial Officer, Raj Agrawal; our President of Global Components, Rick Marano; and our President of Global Enterprise Computing Solutions, Eric Nowak. During this call, we'll make forward-looking statements, including statements about our business outlook, strategies, plans and future financial results, which are based on our predictions and expectations as of today. Our actual results could differ materially due to a number of risks and uncertainties, including due to the risk factors and other factors described in this quarter's associated earnings release and our most recent annual report on Form 10-K and other filings with the SEC. We undertake no obligation to update publicly or revise any of the forward-looking statements as a result of new information or future events. As a reminder, some of the figures we will discuss on today's call are non-GAAP measures, which are not intended to be a substitute for our GAAP results. We've reconciled these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures in this quarter's associated earnings release. You can access our earnings release at investor.arrow.com, along with a replay of this call. We've also posted a slide presentation on this website to accompany our prepared remarks and encourage you to reference these slides during this webcast. Following our prepared remarks today, Bill, Raj, Rick and Eric will be available to take your questions. I'll now hand the call over to our Interim President and CEO, Bill Austen.

William Austen

Management

Thank you, Michael, and good afternoon, everyone. I am humbled, honored and excited to serve as Interim President and CEO of Arrow Electronics. I have been a Director at Arrow since 2020, and I deeply believe in the management team and strategic direction that we have been charting. I, along with the full board, are committed to maintaining continuity, driving execution and delivering results for our customers, partners and shareholders while we search for a permanent successor. During my first few weeks, I have been meeting with employees, customers, suppliers and investors. The message is simple. There will be no change in Arrow's commitment to excellence and customer service, which has been foundational within this business for 90 years. I have also taken the opportunity to listen to all parties to get an understanding of what makes us unique, respected and sets us apart from the competition. Our management team remains committed to our strategic direction. We remain focused on delivering high-quality innovative technology solutions for our stakeholders. As we review today's results and outlook, you'll see that we are executing well in a market that continues to gradually recover from a prolonged cyclical correction. The fundamentals across both our global components and enterprise computing solutions or ECS businesses remain resilient, and we believe we are positioned to emerge with improved momentum. I would like to comment on the U.S. Department of Commerce's Bureau of Industry and Security, or BIS, placing 3 of Arrow's Chinese subsidiaries on its entity list in early October. The Arrow team took decisive action and 10 days later, BIS informed us that it intends to remove these subsidiaries from the entity list and granted a letter of authorization to resume normal business activities. I am pleased with the prompt resolution to this matter, which underscores…

Rajesh Agrawal

Management

Thanks, Bill. On Slide 5, sales for the third quarter increased $890 million year-over-year to $7.7 billion, exceeding the midpoint of our guidance range and up 13% versus prior year or up 11% year-over-year on a constant currency basis. Third quarter consolidated non-GAAP gross margin of 10.8% and was down approximately 70 basis points versus prior year, driven primarily by regional and customer mix and global components and by product mix and a $21 million charge we took in ECS, which I'll detail in a moment. The charge reduced consolidated non-GAAP gross margin by 30 basis points. Our third quarter non-GAAP operating expenses declined $15 million sequentially to $616 million. The decline was largely driven by a reversal of stock-based compensation expense and cost savings initiatives, which more than offset higher variable costs to support top line sales growth as well as the impact of currency exchange rates. In the third quarter, we generated non-GAAP operating income of $217 million, which was 2.8% of sales. Margins remained flat sequentially due to continued headwinds from our regional mix and customer mix. offset by growth in our accretive value-added offerings and continued productivity initiatives. Interest and other expense was $55 million in the third quarter, and our non-GAAP effective tax rate was 22.5%. And finally, non-GAAP diluted EPS for the third quarter was $2.41, which was above our guided range, driven by a number of factors, including favorable sales results and a lower interest expense. The aforementioned charge lowered EPS by $0.31. Turning to Slide 6. Let's take a closer look at our global components business. Global components sales increased $610 million year-over-year and $271 million sequentially to $5.6 billion, above the midpoint of our guidance range and up 5% versus prior quarter. We continue to believe that the business remains in…

William Austen

Management

Thanks, Raj. Turning to Slide 10. Looking forward, our key priorities are clear. First, we are seeing trends in our global components business that suggest we are in the early stages of a gradual recovery. Second, we will continue to leverage the strong secular trends in cloud and AI that is driving strong growth in both our Supply Chain Services business and in our ECS segment. Third, we are focused on delivering profitable growth through a persistent shift toward an increased mix of higher-margin value-added offerings and a continued execution of our productivity initiatives. Finally, we will continue to allocate capital to the highest return on investment opportunities with the goal of increasing returns for our shareholders. With that, Raj, Rick, Eric and I will now take your questions. Operator, please open the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question from Will Stein at Truist Securities.

William Stein

Analyst

First, Bill, thank you for this introduction. I appreciate it and congrats on the good results. I'm hoping you can maybe clarify whether you might be a candidate for the permanent CEO position or are you limiting yourself to an interim role?

William Austen

Management

Thanks, Will. Nice to meet you. Good question. I'm really happy, humbled and honored to be in the interim role and I'm in the interim role. I am not on the candidate list for the full-time CEO role. At the Board level, we put a search committee together, led by Steve Gunby, our Chair. We have several Board members, and myself, on the initial committee. We are fully moving down the path at this point to finding a candidate. We have selected a search firm, of which I will not name at this point. And we are going to be in the throes of reviewing candidates in the not-too-distant future, but I am not -- I will not be one of them. I will go back to retirement. And I will remain on the board. Thanks for the question.

William Stein

Analyst

Got it. As a follow-up, really sort of taken into a different direction a little bit, whether it's you or Raj, could you maybe linger on the on the charge that the company took during the quarter, maybe explain what this contract was. Is it still in force? Is it completed? Is it abandoned? And what was the economic condition that gave rise to the charge?

Rajesh Agrawal

Management

Yes. Well, it's a good question. Let me -- since Eric Nowak is here, let me give it to him first to talk a little bit about what we're -- what these contracts are in terms of the strategy, and then I'll come back to the financial impact that we've seen.

Eric Nowak

Analyst

Thank you, Raj. We are talking about strategic outsourcing, and this is a fast-growing part of our business. Our suppliers are contracting to us diverse noncore parts of their business to focus on their own priorities. So we are implementing these models with several large suppliers in both North America and EMEA. And as Bill said already, under this agreement, Arrow is acting on behalf of the vendor for a given perimeter and becomes the brand. We take control of the go-to-market activities. So this new merchant provide us exclusivity, cross-selling opportunities, better margin and stickier relationships as we become the sole operator in the market, including for the white space of the supplier and sometimes also in other parts of the world.

Rajesh Agrawal

Management

Yes. So Will, I would just also add that we're really excited about these contracts. We've already gotten several hundred million dollars of billings this year, and that's going to be a big growth vehicle for us longer term for ECS and for the company. We do evaluate the performance on these contracts every period and the charges related to underperformance I would think about it as underabsorption of fixed fee payments that we're supposed to be making. And what I would say is that we're going to continue to grow through some growing pains. We're going to get some margin variability. But if you were to think forward a couple of years in terms of when these things get to steady state, we should be able to achieve double the gross margins on these versus what we achieve in the rest of ECS. So that's why we're really excited about it. So it should give us really good top line growth and bottom line growth. We called out the $21 million charge this quarter only because it's more material in size. We have taken some smaller charges during the first part of the year, but this one was more material we would hope that we wouldn't have anything material like that in the future, but we're likely to have some additional charges in the future that are just going to be part of our normal P&L.

Operator

Operator

We'll move next to Ruplu Bhattacharya at Bank of America.

Ruplu Bhattacharya

Analyst

Raj, I want to delve a little bit more into the ECS margins. Typically, you see a strong growth between the September quarter and the December quarter. Can you talk about what you're seeing in terms of mix, hardware versus software? And how should we think about that sequential change in margins given this quarter had the charge and so it was lower than expected. So how should we think about that ramp between September and December?

Rajesh Agrawal

Management

Yes. Look, I would think about -- and we quantified the impact of the charge in the third quarter. So it was worth almost 100 basis points, so about 100 basis points. If you were to adjust for that, we would still we expect fourth quarter to be very strong for the ECS business, and that's really reflected in our outlook. You can see we gave you sort of the net sales outlook, but the billings growth, GP dollar growth and operating profit dollar growth should be quite good in the business. And margins should also be strong compared to last year. So we have no concerns about what the performance will be in the fourth quarter for ECS.

Ruplu Bhattacharya

Analyst

Okay. Maybe as a follow-up, if I can ask you, Raj or Bill. Bill, by the way, congrats on the interim role. If you guys can give a little bit more detail on the comment you made about things being recovering a little bit slower, which end markets or which verticals are you seeing slower growth in? And as it pertains to the outlook for regions, it looks like Asia remains strong. So just how should we think about margin progression in this environment? I know you're not giving full guide for '26 right now. But how does this temper your to 90 days ago versus what you have thought about components sgement margins and ECS segment margins going forward?

William Austen

Management

Yes. I'm going to -- this is Bill. I'm going to have Rick Marano answer that question to give you the insight as to how the verticals look in Asia.

Richard Marano

Analyst

Yes. So thank you, Ruplu, for the question. I would say kind of touching on what both Bill and Raj said overall, look we firmly believe we're in a recovery in the early stages of a gradual recovery in the marketplace overall. The leading indicators in all 3 markets remain robust, meaning book-to-bill, meaning backlog coverage and design starts as well are very positive for us at this point in time. Transportation and industrial, which are 2 very large verticals for us continue to respond in positive results for us, and they are leading the way for us in our Asian markets as well. And again, as Bill and Raj touched on earlier, we truly believe that based off of what we're seeing in APAC today as the market recovers in the West and the mass market recovers, we'll see both increased sales and margin accordingly as the year goes on in '26.

Rajesh Agrawal

Management

Yes. And Ruplu, let me just add on your question around the '26 trajectory. I did make some comments towards the end of my prepared remarks. . Primarily because we continue to see a gradual recovery. As we look at our leading indicators and how we see the business playing out during the course of next year, we do believe that it is recovering, that will be a gradual recovery. As we've looked at some of the models that are out there for the space that we operate in, they seem to be quite aggressive. And so we just wanted to make a point that we see more of a gradual recovery in the business next year.

Ruplu Bhattacharya

Analyst

Okay. If I can sneak one more in. Given the recovery that you're seeing in hardware and maybe it's a gradual recovery, you also talked about some new type of contracts. How would this impact your working capital and inventory requirements going forward? How should we think about cash conversion cycle in this environment?

Rajesh Agrawal

Management

Yes. I mean this is more on the ECS side with the newer contracts, newer distribution agreements that we talked about. Yes. I mean, look, we -- as I mentioned, we're still in the early stages. So we're learning from how these things will ramp up. There may be some more working capital required in some of these contracts, but we're still learning in its early stages. I think the key point to remember here, Ruplu, is that these things can be very margin accretive. And so it's okay to deploy a little bit more working capital if we have margins that are coming with it. And that's how we really think about it. So we're certainly going to manage the working capital appropriately. But ECS overall is relatively light working capital business, and it provides us higher returns, and I wouldn't see that changing time.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll go next to Joe Quatrochi at Wells Fargo.

Joseph Quatrochi

Analyst

Maybe just a couple, if I could. How big is the supply chain services today and some of the focus that you talked about in the prepared remarks is going after some of these AI insertion opportunities. What type of investment do you need to make on your side to address those?

Rajesh Agrawal

Management

Yes. Let me just start off. When we talk about value-added services, one of the items is supply chain services, the other couple areas are engineering design and then the integration services business that we have. Supply chain and most of these are not going to be that impactful from a revenue standpoint, but they're higher-margin businesses because we typically will get paid a fee for the supply chain services offering, and then for the engineering and design services. So we don't really talk about them in terms of what's the mix of the business. And -- but from a profit standpoint, all of these are very margin accretive. And they could easily be, in some cases, double or the gross margins that we get in the regular part, if I can say it that way, in the components business. And the great thing about these things is that we get paid fees for the services that we're providing. So whatever investment we're putting into this, we want to get compensated for it. And yes, and we certainly want to make sure that our costs are being covered in this kind of an offering. So these are -- this is really a win-win, win for all parties involved here. We're getting paid for the services we provide, and we're making money on that, but the parties that we're serving here, the large customers are also benefiting with our supply chain services. So we like the business, and it's a really good margin accretive part of our components business.

Operator

Operator

And that concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the conference back over to Bill Austen for closing remarks.

William Austen

Management

Thank you. And thank you, everybody, for joining the call today. Once again, I'm excited, humbled and happy to be here. Looking forward to being the interim CEO at Arrow until we find the permanent CEO and I'm really glad to be leading this team amongst this big global powerhouse of Arrow Electronics. So thanks for joining.

Operator

Operator

And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.