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Q2 2022 Earnings Call· Wed, Apr 27, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Hello. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to Ashland Inc. Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Seth Mrozek, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Seth Mrozek

Analyst

Thank you, Josh. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Ashland's Second Quarter Fiscal Year 2022 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. My name is Seth Mrozek, Director, Ashland Investor Relations. Joining me on the call today are Guillermo Novo, Ashland Chair and Chief Executive Officer; and Kevin Willis, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We released preliminary results for the quarter ended March 31, 2022, at approximately 5:00 p.m. Eastern Time yesterday, April 26. The news release issued last night was furnished to the SEC in a Form 8-K. During today's call, we will reference slides that are currently being webcast on our website, ashland.com, under the Investor Relations section. We encourage you to follow along with the webcast during the call. Please turn to Slide 2. As a reminder, during today's call, we will be making forward-looking statements on several matters, including our outlook for fiscal year 2022. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause future results or events to differ materially from today's projections. We believe any such statements are based on reasonable assumptions but cannot assure that such expectations will be achieved. Please refer to Slide 2 of the presentation for a more complete explanation of those risks and uncertainties and the limits applicable to forward-looking statements. You can also review our most recent Form 10-K under Item 1A for a comprehensive discussion of the risk factors impacting our business. Please also note that we will be referring to certain actual and projected financial metrics of Ashland on an adjusted basis, which are non-GAAP financial measures. We will refer to these measures as adjusted and present them to supplement your understanding and assessment of the financial performance of our ongoing business. Non-GAAP measures should not be considered a substitute for or superior to…

Guillermo Novo

Analyst

Thank you, Seth, and hello, everyone. Thank you for your interest in Ashland and for your participation today. As you will hear during the call, Ashland's financial results for the second quarter -- fiscal quarter were consistent with the earnings update we issued on April 12, demonstrating strength and resilience in a world of uncertainty and accelerating change. Customer dynamics remain strong across our core end markets, and we're making significant progress in taking appropriate actions and pricing to recover costs across all segments. Supply chain challenges have not improved, especially with respect to ocean freight. Although we were able to invoice the backlog of carryover orders from last quarter, given strong demand, we ended the quarter with a larger backlog of orders that we have not yet been able to fill. Given the tightness in markets globally, our teams have taken steps to improve the mix of high-value products we're selling, which is further driving margin expansion. We continue to invest in future-forward, sustainable innovations to drive profitable growth, accelerating the pace and the impact of new product introductions. In short, Ashland has undergone a tremendous amount of change. We're a different company today, and the results this quarter and the steps we are taking are enabled by the company we have become. Our ability to respond and operate quickly and nimbly is a result of the intentional changes we have made to the company over the past 2 years. Please turn to Slide 6. Let me share with you some of the second quarter highlights. Sales of $604 million grew by 19% compared to prior year. Against a backdrop of strong global demand, all businesses contributed to our growth. Adjusted EBITDA grew by 41% to $163 million, as all our teams pursued cost recovery and mix improvement while…

John Willis

Analyst

Thank you, Guillermo, and good morning, everyone. Please turn to Slide 9. Total Ashland sales in the quarter were $604 million, up 19% versus prior year. Unfavorable foreign currency negatively impacted sales by 3% in the quarter. Gross margin improved by 500 basis points to 36.4%, reflecting cost recovery and mix improvements by the commercial teams in the face of significant cost inflation. In total, we saw approximately $48 million of inflation in the quarter versus the prior year across raw materials, energy and freight, and as expected, we were able to recover these costs. Excluding key items, SG&A, R&D and intangible amortization costs increased to $119 million in the quarter, primarily reflecting the addition of the Schülke & Mayr business, the elimination of the INEOS transition services agreement and accrued incentive compensation. In total, Ashland's adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $163 million, a 41% increase compared to the prior year adjusted EBITDA of $116 million. Ashland's adjusted EBITDA margin for the quarter was 27%, a 420-basis point improvement over the prior year, again, reflecting the items just discussed. Adjusted EPS, excluding acquisition amortization for the quarter, was $1.50 per share, up 79% from the prior year, reflecting both the increased earnings and a lower diluted share count following our recent share repurchase activities. I'll summarize those repurchases in a bit more detail in a few moments. Ongoing free cash flow was negative $5 million for the quarter. This essentially reflects an increase in working capital, primarily inventory and accounts receivable, given the inflation in raw material and other input costs we have seen globally. We expect ongoing free cash flow conversion to be positive in the second half of the fiscal year though working capital levels will remain elevated, assuming continued inflationary trends. Now, let's review the results…

Guillermo Novo

Analyst

Thank you, Kevin. Please turn to Slide 16. As I mentioned at the beginning of the call, Ashland is making excellent progress while operating in a world of significant uncertainty and accelerating change. Our teams continue to demonstrate operating resilience and are delivering strong results. Against a backdrop of global supply constraint and shipping challenges, we have demonstrated proactive pricing discipline to recover costs in a widespread inflationary environment while also improving our mix management. And while supply chain challenges have not improved, we have improved our global planning to better anticipate how we can be more responsive and efficient. Our plants continue to run well, and we have started to rebuild inventory levels. We still need to make more progress in this area to build up safety stocks levels across our warehouse network. We are maintaining our strategic focus and capitalizing on things that are within our control. This quarter, we saw strong margin performance driven by cost recovery, mix management and disciplined cost management. And while free cash flow generation was below prior year levels, this was due largely to the impact of rising inflation on working capital balances. Our increased focus and discipline in innovation is paying off. We're accelerating the velocity and our investments in innovation and growth, especially for sustainable ingredients and additives. We're aligned with the evolving product requirements of our customers and the consumer and are well positioned to capitalize on these emerging trends across the globe. We have strengthened our internal innovation portfolio management to both accelerate the pace of new product launches and ensure that these launches create the most value for our customers and for Ashland. Finally, as Kevin explained in detail, we remain committed to a strategy of disciplined capital allocation. Beginning this year, we're expanding capacity in numerous…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from John McNulty with BMO Capital Markets.

John McNulty

Analyst

Congratulations on some really solid results. So I wanted to dig in a little bit into the Life Sciences area. You had a heck of a jump in terms of overall profitability as well as sales, but certainly, the profits are kind of at record levels. And I guess, just given how much noise there's been around the lumpiness of logistics and that kind of thing like, is this kind of a one-off, hey, we kind of -- we did kind of better than even normal because we had a little bit of catch-up? Or is this kind of a good run rate? And if it is a good run rate here, I guess what's driving that enhanced profitability? How should we be thinking about that?

Guillermo Novo

Analyst

I think as we said in the call, the -- we have moved more on prices, especially starting at the end of last quarter, to recover a lot of the inflation that we've seen. And the mix impact has been very favorable. This quarter, Pharma was very strong. We still have a lot of orders. We ship around the world, so there's still -- the backlog is still there. And the parts that were a little bit softer were in the nutraceutical area where we continue to have more of the manufacturing, labor availability issues impacting some of our ability to supply in the U.S., so it was more of a mix impact. But as we look forward, we expect Pharma to remain resilient. And hopefully, we'll see some pickup in the nutraceuticals side for the back end of the year.

John McNulty

Analyst

Got it. Got it. That's helpful. Okay. And then, I guess, just as a follow-up question, just around the innovation pipeline because it looks like it's pretty dynamic. It does seem like the wheel is finally starting to really turn here. I guess can you -- when you look at the 5-year revenue potential that you outlined, can you help us to understand the magnitude of that? Can you give us either kind of a dollar value? Or is there a way to think about how you see the vitality index moving from kind of the current levels to that year 5 kind of time frame? Can you help us to kind of gauge that a little bit?

Guillermo Novo

Analyst

You're going to see us talk more and more about that as we move forward. Right now, we're being a little bit more careful because, as you said, a lot of the different businesses are advancing their portfolios because -- frankly, because of the cosmetic show in Paris. So we have had a lot of launches there, those more and more public. And some of the other businesses that we're working on things that we haven't been as public yet, so we don't want to start giving data on one business, so we're waiting to get more advanced in some of our launches. But as you said, I think the biggest focus that we've had is not just accelerating the launches. We had things in our pipeline, and I think I mentioned this in one of our prior calls. Whatever was in the pipeline, big or small, let's move them through so that we can launch them and really, using the time that we spent in 2020 and especially 2021 in advancing the newer innovations, that's what excites me. That we're bringing out a lot of these newer products that are having higher impact and that are much more aligned with our sustainability strategy, that they're coming through. So these are much bigger value you see in the graph. The number of launches is significantly higher, but the value of them is a higher impact. And that's what we're trying to do. But I'd rather wait to give a little bit more specifics once some of these things are public. We have a lot of things that are IP protected, that we're filing patents and stuff, that it will take us a little bit more time. We're still in the earlier stages. As we talked about in 2021, innovation takes time, and you're just starting to see the early phases of that roll out. So if you look at 2023, 2024, we expect those to continue to be very strong for us as we move forward both in new product launches and increasing that impact level. And that's really where a lot of this portfolio management is helping us. Really honing in on projects that might be interesting, but they're not high impact, versus where really we can move the needle in the long term.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Chris Parkinson in Mizuho.

Christopher Parkinson

Analyst

Awesome. So Guillermo, I understand you don't want to get too much into specifics, but you have been launching over a period of time a large portfolio of natural-based, responsibly-sourced products, a bunch of things in rheology, some of that was at [ incas ]. Just broadly, top down, where you stand right here, right now with the portfolio in Personal Care with pricing and end market demand from your customer base, just a simple question. What's your best degree of conviction on the 300 to 400 basis points of subsegment outperformance?

Guillermo Novo

Analyst

Well, I think you're going to start seeing that grow over time. I think right now, there's 2 dynamics, just managing the shorter-term dynamics of managing the inflation and mix. Obviously, the mix is improving as we go. You're starting to see the growth of some of the new areas like the Schülke contributions having a bigger impact. Similar to Life Science, I think in the last call, we mentioned Life Science, Personal Care were a little bit slower on the pricing. You're starting to see that come through. So definitely, there's clearly some improvement there. But I think the longer term, we feel very confident that we can start really driving some of these innovations. Most of these new innovations will come with greater value for our customers, and all these also is a greater opportunity to -- for us to differentiate our products and expand margins as we go. I will say, and just for all the businesses, the -- in the near term, especially when you're managing through these very high peaks of inflation, there is going to be some noise over and under in some of the margins. And that's going to be an issue of the flow-through of cost through the system in terms of accounting as well as we want our margins -- they need to be a bit higher than the inflation. Because some things, if you look at energy, for example, some of our plants are hedged if energy stays at these levels. And the hedges next year are going to be higher, you're going to see more inflation. So we're pricing and taking actions based on where we see the ball in the future and not just how it's flowing through in our numbers. So we want to make sure that we're maximizing both that short-term performance, but also getting that mix and that innovation to drive that longer-term margin improvement.

Christopher Parkinson

Analyst

Got it. And just a real quick corollary of McNulty's question, just turning back to Life Sciences very quickly. There have always been a lot of drivers of the existing portfolio. But if you just took a moment to potentially parse this out for us in terms of what you're seeing in the, let's say, the legacy OSD portfolio, new therapeutic drug launches, some of which, to my knowledge, were kind of delayed or [ kept ] from your customers during COVID, which are now potentially bearing through. And then also the outlook in -- for EM, specifically in Asia, Central Asia, so on and so forth. Just how are you thinking about those different moving parts within your Life Sciences portfolio? And then perhaps a very quick comment on M&A and injectables?

Guillermo Novo

Analyst

So we're looking still at a robust, resilient Pharma segment, especially in the OSD. I think there has been, and I think we've mentioned in the past, some impact with just funding. If you look at some of the drugs that require government funding like AIDS drugs, as an example, they have been softer. We're seeing some improvement there. Some of these drugs, for example, are used in some of the COVID -- in conjunction with some of the COVID drugs for the therapy, so we're seeing some increase there. So clearly, we are seeing some improvement as things normalize, and as some of the drugs that we're in -- are used in some of the new therapies for COVID and other areas. So we will continue to see the segment growth. I think it will be that, that the model that we have is still this continuous steady growth of that segment as we move forward. In injectables, we continue to make progress in terms of our poly-absorbable polymers. We had some good sales this quarter with some of the customers that are doing testing and then trials over them and some of their drug developments. And we are working through our longer-term strategy on both organic growth that we are investing more, and you'll see us investing more in R&D in this area to drive the organic side. Recognizing that it is a longer pipeline, but we believe that we need to make those investments to get the momentum over the long term. And we are -- we continue to work the M&A side of the equation, too.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Josh Spector with UBS.

Joshua Spector

Analyst · UBS.

Just -- if I look at the performance in your fiscal second quarter and I look at your guidance, you're essentially guiding that sales remain at a similar level, but EBITDA is maybe down $20 million a quarter where margins are down a couple of hundred basis points. What are the main buckets that drive that EBITDA step down sequentially?

Guillermo Novo

Analyst · UBS.

I think we -- there's a lot of uncertainty at this point in time. As we said, our models were modeling in some additional inflation and the timing for us to get that recovery. The lockdowns have been an impact, and we're not sure how long they're going to last in China. And the war in Ukraine, it's not a big part of our direct portfolio, but we have to see what some of these impacts are. And specifically, even today, one of the biggest risk we would have in terms of Ukraine is energy availability. It's not just the inflation but the availability in Europe. Even today, you should already see some of those concerns. So we're just being realistic that things are going to happen, and that we just can't project that things are going to be just linear and we're going to continue to grow. So we're factoring all those issues in, and we believe there's going to be some surprises, and that we just need to factor them into our outlook.

John Willis

Analyst · UBS.

And Josh, the other -- I'd add 2 more things. The one thing we know we're going to have is a large turnaround at our Lima, Ohio facility, the BDO plant. That will be most likely a $10 million to $12 million impact in Q3. We do that about every 3 years, and it's time to do it again. I think the other piece of the equation is currency. We've seen the euro continue to weaken, which is a drag on our earnings as we convert euros to dollars. So those would be the 2 things that I would also add to the equation. So there's a bit of conservatism in the overall mix here, but there are some things that we know, and there's a lot of things that we don't.

Joshua Spector

Analyst · UBS.

Okay. That's very helpful. Appreciate that. And just when you go through the commentary on all the segments, I think you highlighted positive mix in essentially all 3 of the core segments, and you talked about your capacity constraints which has also enabled some improvement in mix. What's your ability to hold on to some of that better mix? And how do you weigh expanding capacity to meet some of the unmet demand, maybe on the lower mix products versus maintaining a higher margin mix overall?

Guillermo Novo

Analyst · UBS.

Well, on the mix side, we're using the opportunity. This is a more constructive time, I would say. If we wanted to change the mix anyway, this is allowing us to do it in a more constructive way. I mean, I think the least constructive way is exiting businesses like we did in the low end. This is allowing us to sort of manage through that process and hone in on the market segments that we really see that long-term differentiation and ability to grow. So obviously, coating is very important to us, construction, Personal Care, Life Science. So we're shifting that portfolio and upgrading where we allocate our heels of capacity and our key raw materials as we go. And then in areas like the Intermediates, we're just trying to be smart about how we manage the short-term opportunities in some of our merchant businesses through the mix also, where we can get the most value. Most of -- just a reminder, most of the business there is not BDO per se, it's other derivatives, so we can look at what markets and what regions we want to position those sales in.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from David Begleiter with Deutsche Bank.

David Begleiter

Analyst · Deutsche Bank.

I apologize for that. Guillermo, in the quarter, did selling price increases offset raw material costs?

Guillermo Novo

Analyst · Deutsche Bank.

Yes. We offset raw material costs and also other costs, too. So it definitely was a net positive. I think there's a part that we've tried to do is get ahead of the curve. I mean, the more delays you have in pricing, then the bigger the actions need to be later on. So moving early, I think is one of the big learnings. It's -- the sooner you do it, the less of the increase needs to be and the greater the impact you're going to get the benefit of time.

David Begleiter

Analyst · Deutsche Bank.

Very good. And just on the shipping and logistics issues, when do you think they'll get better? And what was the impact, if any, in Q2? And what's the expectation of an impact in the back half of the year?

Guillermo Novo

Analyst · Deutsche Bank.

Like I said, for the trucking, we're starting to see some level of improvement. I think there's still going to be depending on the region, some noise. I assume with some of the new developments in Europe, you'll see a little bit more noise on the trucking side there, but we have seen some level of improvement. So I think throughout the year, that's one that should start to be -- see improvement. And the impact is shorter term because you're talking about days and delays. On the -- unfortunately, on the ocean freight side, all indications is this is not going to improve that quickly, [ barring ] the demand really drops across the world and opens up a lot of capacity. Most of the outlooks that we've seen is more towards the back end of 2023 and into 2024 because it's about capacity, it's about the port capacities, not just shipping capacity. So there's several dynamics in that area that will take a little bit more time. That's why for us, it's really building that inventory. Although our inventories have gone up, our safety stocks at the other side are not where they need to be still, so this is work that we're going to probably be doing throughout the entire year to catch up. And the balance is going to be -- we're producing to a full capacity, so it's either we're selling it or we're building inventory. So demand goes up, it just puts more pressure on the inventory side of the equation.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Laurence Alexander with Jefferies.

Laurence Alexander

Analyst · Jefferies.

Two quick ones. On the negative sales trends reported for the nutraceuticals and nutritional ingredients products categories. Given the amount of inflation you're passing through, if you back out kind of the underlying level of inflation, when should those categories get back to positive year-over-year comps? And the new -- Sorry, go ahead.

Guillermo Novo

Analyst · Jefferies.

No, I'll just answer that one. The issue is supply. I mean, we're passing the cost we can. Demand is very robust. It's really more issues about our ability to produce, and a lot of our plants are in the East Coast, so labor has been the bigger issue and we're working through that. So it's really more not a demand or margin issue as much as it's about our ability to supply, and that's where we're putting a lot of our energy.

Laurence Alexander

Analyst · Jefferies.

So probably more like within 3, 6 months as opposed to 12, 18. Is that fair?

Guillermo Novo

Analyst · Jefferies.

Yes. Yes, it's more about us and our ability. It's not a market issue. And Laurence, on the nutrition -- on like the nutrition side, we have a lot of cellulosics that go into nutrition, and that tends to be a lower margin segment for us. And given that we're sold out as is the global market and most of these products as part of the mix improvement strategy of the business as well, take that material. Move it to higher margin end markets, so you're going to see some pocket switches there. We're being thoughtful about that. It has to create long-term value as well in short term. But we'll also see some volume movements amongst the end markets as a result of where we are from a capacity perspective.

Laurence Alexander

Analyst · Jefferies.

Okay. That's very helpful. With the new product pipeline, is that net of cannibalization? Or is that intended as a growth number?

Guillermo Novo

Analyst · Jefferies.

There's going to be growth. I think the key priority is growth, if you look across all the businesses. If you look at some of the dynamics in Personal Care, for example, we're looking at the industry shift in sustainability. The majority are growth opportunities, replacing other products that are going to be replaced. But we're also working to replace ourselves in some of the products, moving to more biodegradable, more of this natural, natural-derived, sustainable profile. So mostly growth, but there are some areas that we're going to [indiscernible] ourselves, too.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes From Mike Sison with Wells Fargo.

Michael Sison

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

Really nice quarter there. Guillermo, in terms of Personal Care, you guys talked about 16% organic growth, pretty impressive. Just curious how much of that was volume and price? And I know you have some product rationalization there. And does that volume growth improve as we get into the second half?

Guillermo Novo

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

Yes. So we do see a lot of opportunities for volume growth in our business. Obviously, if you look at some of the cellulosics, some of these things we're managing, so you might see growth as Kevin said in one segment, and we're shifting things around. And as we bring on debottleneck and new capacity, that will enable some growth. But if you look in Personal Care, there's a lot of other technologies that are not capacity limited, so there is the opportunity for growth. I would point out the Schülke. Schülke is performing extremely well. One of the tenants is a European-based company. It was global, but a lot of the business's based in Europe. We can help it globalize, so driving global growth in that product line is going to be very, very important for us. That would be a net volume revenue growth. Biofunctionals, we're investing and putting capacity in China and servicing and developing products in Asia for the Asian customers, so that will also be opportunities for growth. Some of these -- so there's guar, like nathrathix is really targeted at replacing carbomers, which is one of the big categories, probably a $400-plus million market just in the Personal Care space that a lot of customers want to replace with more sustainable solutions. So there's a lot of opportunities for both volume growth, and also, we'll continue to drive that mix improvement in other parts of our portfolio.

John Willis

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

And Mike, looking at Personal Care for the quarter, about 2/3 of that 16% is in the form of mix and volume, and there is some negative currency in that as well. So on a like-for-like basis, it would actually be better than that.

Michael Sison

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

Got it. And then just one quick follow-up. In terms of your outlook at -- for EBITDA being in the midpoint or higher or above the midpoint, and I think it's the case. But are all the segments are contributing to the better performance for the second half of the year?

Guillermo Novo

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

Yes. So all businesses are contributing in terms of the margin and recovery and mix improvement, so we should see that. I do think, as I mentioned, the timing of flow-throughs, you're going to see some normalization. The issue of when you move on pricing versus, when the costs come in or when they reflect. So there is going to be some adjustments, but all of them are improving and we're moving in our strategic direction of improving our margins. But Kevin, I don't know if you want to add anything else?

John Willis

Analyst · Wells Fargo.

Yes. Just, again, another reminder that the Intermediates business will be negatively impacted primarily because of the Lima turnaround, and I think we're also seeing cost inflation there that's rolling through, so those results will be [ well muted ]. I think the good news there is you look at the 3 core segments aside from that, they're going to more than pick up the slack.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Mike Harrison with Seaport.

Michael Harrison

Analyst · Seaport.

In the past, in your Personal Care business, when you've had some macro declines particularly in emerging markets, you've seen some trading down to lower cost Personal Care products, particularly hair care. I think that you've recently taken some steps to improve your position. But as we start to see inflation impacting consumers and maybe some changes in consumer behavior, how much of an impact could trading down to lower end products have on your Personal Care volumes?

Guillermo Novo

Analyst · Seaport.

I don't think that has been as big of a driver. I think it's been more just where we position the new products, it's more of that sustainability push. As the market is moving to a more recession environment, could that be delayed a little bit? I don't think the direction is going to change. All of the companies are pretty committed on their environmental commitments to drive that. And I think that's the biggest change driver that's happening right now. I think you'll continue to see -- if there's some delays, then the portfolio stays much more balanced as it has over the last 2 years. So I don't think there's going to be a negative impact on moving to lower cost. That would require a significant reformulation work from customers that they just want to do it right now.

Michael Harrison

Analyst · Seaport.

All right. And then on the coating side, you mentioned the normalization that's going on at DIY and more of a shift back to the pro-contractor market. One of the large coatings companies has kind of referenced that even within the contractor market, there's been a positive mix shift to higher-quality paint, too. Presumably, that's using more of your additives, but can you just talk about kind of what you're seeing in terms of the mix in coatings? I guess, normally, we would think that DIY is positive for you guys, but is it turning out that you're seeing some positive mix with this contractor trend right now?

Guillermo Novo

Analyst · Seaport.

Like right now, it's more what's driving the demand. We're very well positioned both with our cellulosics, the HECs, also with our Aquaflow, we see a lot of very good performance there. But Mike, frankly, as we said, we -- everything is at capacity. So if there's some changes, we don't necessarily see it like it's a big driver. We're trying to produce as much as we can and supply as much as we can with our customers. I think the move to higher quality paints is obviously very favorable for us. I also think it's also a good sustainability move. Long -- higher quality means longer lasting, which means from a cycle, it's just better all-around in terms of cost performance and environmental performance for the industry and for the world. So I think those are all mega trends that are playing well for us and some of the newer technologies that we're introducing.

Michael Harrison

Analyst · Seaport.

All right. And just a quick one for Kevin. Compared to the 57 million share count in this quarter, what share count should we be modeling next quarter?

John Willis

Analyst · Seaport.

It'll be lower. It will be about 56 million.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from John McNulty with BMO Capital Markets.

John McNulty

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

Yes. Sorry, one last follow-up just on the capital allocation side. So you've had a pretty balanced approach in terms of M&A and buybacks. Admittedly, buybacks this last quarter were bigger than what we were expecting to be. I guess, should we be thinking about kind of a more balanced pace going forward than kind of maybe what we've seen over the last quarter, or maybe even dialing back the buybacks? Or do you still feel like, hey, look, given that you're undervalued your own stock and, in a lot of cases, maybe the best place to be putting capital, I guess how should we be thinking about that?

Guillermo Novo

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

Let me make some comments and then Kevin, I'll let you comment more [ on ] balance sheet and where we feel we need to be. But right now, I think we've taken actions -- appropriate actions in terms of buybacks to recognize our value of the company and in terms of where we believe we should be and the long-term value. However, I think as we move forward, we do want to make sure that growth is the bigger driver and that we can maintain that capability to drive quality growth. Both the CapEx, I think we have enough capital, but we do want to do a high-value strategic M&A [ aligned ] with our focus of pharmaceuticals with injectables is a big focus area, Personal Care and coatings, so that will be a priority going forward. To get to where we want to get buybacks help make a point, support our shareholders. But really, it's about that growth and continuing to shift our portfolio to those higher-end markets and technologies, and that -- we want to make that our top priority. Kevin?

John Willis

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

Yes. The only thing I would add is balance sheet is in pristine condition at this point, and we've got a lot of flexibility to do a lot of things. I mean, that just over 1x net leverage. We've got a lot of capacity to do multiple things. And I think you're going to continue to see us do a mix. I mean, it's our view that the current share price, the company is very undervalued right now, so buying shares is still an opportunity. But as Guillermo said, to really realize the value creation that's possible, we've got to continue to be focused on organic growth, so expanding capacity to do that as well as these inorganic opportunities around high value but disciplined M&A to continue to meet our agenda as we've laid it out. And as we said back in November, there is going to be a mix. We plan to do all 3 of these things over over the course of time. We've done that before. They're not mutually exclusive activities, and we're fortunately in just a really, really nice position to be able to do those things right now. Pretty excited.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Guillermo Novo for any further remarks.

Guillermo Novo

Analyst

Okay. Well, I wanted to thank everybody for your participation and interest. I want to thank also the entire Ashland team for a great performance in the quarter. And we look forward to connecting with you in the coming weeks, and I look forward to our next call. So thank you very much, everyone.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.