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Algoma Steel Group Inc. (ASTL)

Q4 2024 Earnings Call· Fri, Jun 21, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to Algoma Steel Group Incorporated Full Year Fiscal 2024 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Michael Moraca, Treasurer, Investor Relations Officer. Thank you. You may begin.

Michael Moraca

Analyst

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Algoma Steel Group Inc.'s Full Year Fiscal 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Leading today's call are Michael Garcia, our Chief Executive Officer; and Rajat Marwah, our Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, this call is being recorded and will be made available for replay later today in the Investors section of Algoma Steel's corporate website at www.algoma.com. I would like to remind you that comments made on today's call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities laws, which involve assumptions and inherent risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from statements made today. In addition, our financial statements are prepared in accordance with IFRS, which differs from US GAAP and our discussion today includes references to certain non-IFRS financial measures. Last evening, we posted an earnings presentation to accompany today's prepared remarks. The slides for today's call can be found in the Investors section of our corporate website. With that in mind, I would ask everyone on today's call to read the legal disclaimers on Slide 2 of the accompanying earnings presentation and also refer to the risks and assumptions outlined in Algoma Steel's Fourth Quarter Fiscal 2024 Management's Discussion and Analysis. Please note that our financial statements are prepared using the US dollar as our functional currency and the Canadian dollar as our presentation currency. Our fiscal year runs from April 1st to March 31st and our statements have been prepared for the years ended March 31st, 2024, and March 31st, 2023. Please note, all amounts referred to on today's call are in Canadian dollars unless otherwise noted. Following our prepared remarks, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Michael Garcia. Mike?

Michael Garcia

Analyst · Cormark Securities. Please proceed

Thank you, Mike. Good morning and thank you for joining us to discuss our fiscal fourth quarter and full year 2024 results. Ensuring the safety of our employees is a core value and top priority for our company. This unwavering commitment led to significant improvements in our lost time injury performance during fiscal 2024. As our site continues to be a hub of activity, especially with the increasing contractor involvement in our EAF project, emphasizing safety is more crucial than ever. We are pleased to announce the addition of Erin Oliver as our new Vice President of Health and Safety. This is a new position on our leadership team, reporting directly to myself. Originally from Sault Ste. Marie, Erin brings a wealth of experience and a strong background in fostering health and safety initiatives across Canada. Her expertise will be instrumental in our pursuit of zero workplace injuries. Next, I'll cover key events and milestones during our fiscal fourth quarter and subsequent to its end as well as give an update on progress at our transformational EAF project. I will then turn the call over to Rajat for a deeper dive into the numbers and a discussion of our strong liquidity and balance sheet before closing with an update on market conditions. There are a few important themes I would like to get across on this call. Our results for the quarter were adversely impacted by previously disclosed operational challenges related to the coke-making utility structure collapse and subsequent blast furnace outage in January, which was resolved and resulted in approximately 150,000 tons of lost production. Subsequent to the quarter-end, we completed our planned upgrade related to the plate mill modernization project. The upgrades to the mill are now substantially complete and production from the plate mill is already running…

Rajat Marwah

Analyst · Cormark Securities. Please proceed

Thanks, Mike. Good morning, and thank you all for joining the call. As a reminder, all numbers are expressed in Canadian dollars unless otherwise noted. Our fourth quarter results included adjusted EBITDA of CAD41.5 million, which reflects an adjusted EBITDA margin of 6.7% and cash generated from operating activities of CAD121.2 million. We finished the quarter with a strong balance sheet, including CAD98 million of cash and availability of CAD347 million under our revolving credit facility. Subsequent to the quarter-end, we raised US$350 million in the form of high-yield bond bearing interest at 9.125%. Mike provided details earlier on the coke-making corridor collapse. From a financial perspective, we estimate the resultant outage negatively impacted hot metal production in the quarter by approximately 150,000 tons and reduced adjusted EBITDA by approximately CAD120 million to CAD130 million. We have been working closely with our insurance providers and adjusters as they complete their assessments. While we do expect to recover a significant amount of the losses, the amount and timing of these recoveries are still to be determined. Now let me dive into the key drivers of our performance. We shipped 451,000 tons in the quarter, down 21.1% versus the prior year quarter. The decrease in shipments were largely attributable to the utility corridor collapse at our coke-making facility that resulted in the shutdown of a blast furnace that Mike previously discussed. This was offset somewhat by producing and shipping some products from available inventories of slabs and finished goods. Net sales realization averaged CAD1,260 per ton, up 18.2% versus the prior year period. The increase versus the prior year level reflects the lagging effect of our order book and the strong pricing around the ending of calendar year. Plate pricing continued to enjoy a significant premium relative to hot rolled coil during…

Michael Garcia

Analyst · Cormark Securities. Please proceed

Thanks, Rajat. Looking at the state of the North American steel market, prices have been volatile year-to-date. Since the beginning of January, index pricing for US Midwest domestic hot-rolled coil have fallen approximately US$400 per ton. Current market weakness reflects ample spot supply, short lead times, economic uncertainty and buyers being cautious into the seasonally slower summer buying season. As I said previously, we are focused on what we can control. Operating our facilities safely to best capture market opportunities as they arise. Our results are supported by the fact that plate pricing continues to demonstrate a significant premium as overall demand for plate products remains high. This, in turn, continues to benefit our average price realizations especially as we see higher production levels from the plate mill following the most recent planned outage and upgrade. The next several quarters represent an exciting time in the story of Algoma as we continue to execute work towards the start of commissioning of our transformative EAF project by year-end. This will usher in the next phase of our company that defines the future of Algoma, provides the foundation for long-term value creation for our stakeholders and solidifies our leadership position at the forefront of green steel production in North America. Thank you very much for your continued interest in Algoma Steel. At this point, we would be happy to take your questions. Operator, please give the instructions for the Q&A session.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from David Ocampo with Cormark Securities. Please proceed.

David Ocampo

Analyst · Cormark Securities. Please proceed

Thanks for taking my questions everyone. I guess my first one is just on shipments for the June quarter. I mean that's running below the normal run rate, even though plate shipments seem pretty small at 65,000 tons. Just curious what the lower volumes are attributed to? Is it mainly just weaker industry conditions or is there some other factors that are contributing to that?

Rajat Marwah

Analyst · Cormark Securities. Please proceed

Hi, David. Nice to talk to you. You're absolutely right, it's a touch lower. But normally, when we take such kind of outages, which is the 20-day outage that we took for the plate mill, and the ramp-up, we normally lose around 50,000 to 60,000 tons, both from the plate mill as well as the strip mill attached to it. So normally, our shipment should be below 500,000, but the plate mill really came back solid after the outage and recovered some of that losses. So we will be in the 500,000 to 510,000 range. But the main reason for that is the outage that we took, which it's normally 20 days and the ramp-up takes a little bit longer.

David Ocampo

Analyst · Cormark Securities. Please proceed

Again that's very helpful there, Rajat. And then maybe for you as well, just on the CapEx in the quarter, I think it was close to CAD120 million and CAD50 million of that went to the EAF. Curious what the other CAD70 million was attributable to -- did some of that CapEx leak into the coke ovens that you guys had to repair?

Rajat Marwah

Analyst · Cormark Securities. Please proceed

Yes, you're absolutely right. That's the CapEx that's related to the coke oven and some of the blast furnace issues. It's all because of the coke oven collapse, the utility corridor. And we are discussing with the insurance providers on that aspect as well, so which will be recovered once it's settled and it will probably come into the following quarter -- following year -- this year, 2025 fiscal.

David Ocampo

Analyst · Cormark Securities. Please proceed

Okay. So the CapEx potential recovery from insurance providers, that's on top of the CAD120 million to CAD130 million of lost EBITDA that you guys are trying to call back?

Rajat Marwah

Analyst · Cormark Securities. Please proceed

That's correct.

David Ocampo

Analyst · Cormark Securities. Please proceed

Okay. And then just the last one for me before I hand the call over. I mean you guys are nearing the completion of your EAF project. Just curious when we think about the range of outcomes for the total cost, what are the risks that are still out there that would push you guys above the top end of your guidance? And then on the flip side, what would cause you guys to come in closer to that 825 number just given that CAD800 million does appear to be locked in that contract prices already?

Michael Garcia

Analyst · Cormark Securities. Please proceed

Hi, David. This is Mike. Really, we've substantially derisked the project in terms of schedule and budget, given where we're sitting right now. There's always risk around weather delays, any labor disruptions. We don't see any of those right now that we are concerned about. A small probably under 10%, probably under 8% of the work is being done on time and materials. So there would theoretically be a risk that the time and materials exceeds the placeholders we have in there right now our assumptions of where they'll come in. But again, that's less than 10% of the -- of our intended total spend. So we don't see that as a significant risk. On the flip side, in terms of potential for bringing it in under that range between 825 and 875 again because most of the work is contracted, there's not a lot of upside to be captured. There could be some efficiencies that we identify that would allow us to gain a little bit on some of the time and material work. And then we have a handful of contracts still to award on the remaining scope of work. There's probably only two contracts of moderate to significant size, one being the material handling system and fire protect, and the second one being the fire protection system. So the team is spending a lot of time working with the contractor base to give them the right engineering package to be able to bid on both those pieces of work. We feel good about where they're going to come in. But again we won't know until the actual contracts are awarded. Does that help?

David Ocampo

Analyst · Cormark Securities. Please proceed

Yes. And I guess those two pieces of contracts that are left to be awarded. Is that CAD25 million or CAD50 million or what's the order of magnitude that needs to be contracted still?

Michael Garcia

Analyst · Cormark Securities. Please proceed

I don't have the number for you right now. I can talk to the team and maybe get something for you.

David Ocampo

Analyst · Cormark Securities. Please proceed

Okay. That's helpful. I'll hand the call over. Thanks a lot.

Michael Garcia

Analyst · Cormark Securities. Please proceed

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Ian Gillies with Stifel. Please proceed.

Ian Gillies

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed

Good morning, everyone.

Michael Garcia

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed

Good morning, Ian.

Rajat Marwah

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed

Hey, Ian.

Ian Gillies

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed

Could you -- as we get closer to the start-up of the EAF, could you, is there any update you can provide around the scrap strategy and where you think you're at on that front as it could be a potential pinch point?

Michael Garcia

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed

Sure. So as we've shared before, our methodology or mechanism for sourcing scrap for the EAFs will be through our joint venture that we formed at the beginning of this project with Triple M Metals. That joint venture has been operationalized. It's staffed. The members of Triple M or ATM, Algoma Triple M is the name of the venture. They've been out in the market discussing with future and current scrap suppliers that we'll be buying from. So they've spent a lot of work in the market. We know who will be buying scrap from. We know how we'll be moving it to Sault Ste. Marie. We spent a lot of time on the supply chain making sure we have efficient logistics on rail, truck and across the Great Lakes. The joint venture is currently buying scrap for our ongoing operations. It's not near the magnitude of the scrap we'll be buying in the future, but we do buy scrap for our basic oxygen furnace steelmaking shop right now. So we feel good about understanding the scrap market who will be buying from. But again we won't be buying those large quantities until further down the ramp-up curve in the latter half of calendar year 2025. So it's hard to predict exactly what the market will look like or feel like at that time.

Ian Gillies

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed

Okay. That's helpful. On the -- on the plate side, the ramp is obviously going to be pretty material over the next, call it, four to six quarters. Can you talk a little bit more about how your commercial team is capturing market share and tends to capture market share there because I mean plate price has been quite weak in recent weeks?

Michael Garcia

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed

Sure. So the whole team is really delighted about our plate offering now. We've made substantial improvements in surface quality and flatness and dimensional tolerance with the improvements we've made in the plate mill over the last two years. We have made substantial improvement in the delivery performance of our plate over the last 18 months or so. And I think with those two combinations, the commercial team has a stronger selling proposition to our current and potential plate mill customers. We actually had a grand opening of our plate mill modernization here in Sault Ste. Marie earlier this week, and we had around 25 plate customers here in the mill. We toured them through the new facility. They got to meet the crews. They got to see the product. They got to see the new assets in place and running. And so from this point, it's having those one-on-one conversations with our plate customer base and potential plate customers, some of them who were frankly historical customers of plate in the past. And for whatever reason, we haven't had a big position with over the last 5 or 10 years. So it's that type of selling, understanding the customer needs, understanding what the customer wants and how they win in their marketplace and with their customers and just doing that type of work with the customers to either grow our share of wallet with existing customers or establish a position with customers where we aren't yet established.

Ian Gillies

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed

Okay. That's helpful. With that, I'll turn it back over.

Michael Garcia

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed

Thanks, Ian.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Katja Jancic with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed.

Katja Jancic

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed

Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Maybe starting off on the CapEx for fiscal year '25. Can you provide an update to what the total expected CapEx is going to be?

Rajat Marwah

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed

Sure. So our normal maintenance CapEx as usual will be in the range of CAD100 million to CAD120 million, probably on the higher end, considering where the legacy assets are. Our EAF CapEx should be roughly CAD250 million, CAD270 million for the fiscal 2025. And this is all without any recovery from the government. And I think those will be the two substantial ones that you will see in the fiscal 2025.

Katja Jancic

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed

Is there still any incremental from the coke ovens that's going to spill into the next few quarters?

Rajat Marwah

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed

Yes, there will be increment on the coke oven related, but all of that will be offset by the recovery that we'll see during the year and some more to offset the ones that we have spent in this year. So that should offset each other once we finalize, but those things are yet to be finalized. The amount that probably we'll be spending will be in the CAD30 odd million range, CAD30 million to CAD40 million on the coke side during the year. So if no recovery happens, that is what, in addition, you'll see, but the discussions with the insurers are going on that side.

Katja Jancic

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed

Okay. And then maybe on the volume side. Currently, what is the normalized volume you think per quarter you can reach in a more normalized environment?

Rajat Marwah

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed

Yes. We've always said 550 is a normal that we will reach and that's what we benchmark against. And that should start improving once the EAF stabilizes. And again that's all considering where our primary operations are. So that's what we feel as a more normal over the next couple of quarters. And as I said, as we stabilize the EAF, we will start seeing the increase happening.

Katja Jancic

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed

Okay. And maybe on that, how quickly do you think you can ramp-up the EAF or how quickly can it stabilize?

Michael Garcia

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed

Yes, Katja, this is Mike. So the EAF will begin producing on the first EAF steel in the first calendar quarter of 2025. Commissioning is actually going to start before the end of this year, but we don't expect to be striking an arc and making heats until the first calendar quarter of 2025. Like all startups, it will be deliberate and a lot of work for the start-up team, but we have all the crews identified. We have training going on. We have a production plan and we expect to see volume on those EAFs ramp-up through the balance of 2025, but and we'll share that at the appropriate time. But frankly it's -- we're not -- we're cautious of overcommitting or overstretching on exactly how much metal we'll be making out of those EAF, especially in the first half of 2025. And that's why we plan to continue to run our current steelmaking assets and flow path at full production as we move into 2025 and through the balance of that year.

Katja Jancic

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed

Okay. So just to confirm, during the start-up, basically, the blast furnace will operate as usual or as normal. So it should be reaching normal production levels. In other words, 550, let's say, per quarter?

Michael Garcia

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed

Correct. We don't want to take a large -- any dip in quarterly shipments during that start-up year because it's a start-up year.

Katja Jancic

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed

Okay. Maybe just one more, if I may. Mike, I think you said this quarter or in the first quarter, the plate production is about 65,000 tons. And did I understand correctly, next quarter, it should go to 90,000?

Michael Garcia

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed

Correct.

Katja Jancic

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

At this time, there are no further questions. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for closing remarks.

Michael Moraca

Analyst

Thank you again for your participation in our Full Year Fiscal 2024 Earnings Conference Call and your continued interest in Algoma Steel. We look forward to updating you on our results and progress when we report our fiscal first quarter results scheduled for August. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation.