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A10 Networks, Inc. (ATEN)

Q2 2020 Earnings Call· Tue, Jul 28, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the A10 Networks Second Quarter 2020 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rob Fink of FNK IR. Please go ahead.

Rob Fink

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining us today. This call is being recorded and webcasted live and will be accessible for at least 90 days via A10 Networks website at a10networks.com. Hosting the call today are Dhrupad Trivedi, A10’s President and CEO; and Tom Constantino, CFO. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that shortly after the market closed today, A10 Networks issued a press release announcing its second quarter 2020 financial results. Additionally, the company published a presentation and supplemental trended financial statements to its website. You can access the press release, presentation and trended financial statements on the Investor Relations section of the website. During the course of today's call, management will make forward-looking statements, including statements regarding their projections for future operating results, continued reductions in operating expenses; continued efforts to improve operational efficiency; their focus on driving growth, business optimization and overall profitability; their belief is that we can continue to build upon customer momentum going forward; and their expectations regarding future opportunities and their ability to execute on those opportunities; their expectations for future market growth and the general growth for its business; the development and performance of their products; and anticipated customer benefits from the use of their products, their expectations and priorities with respect to 5G. These statements are based on current expectations and beliefs as of today, July 28, 2020. These forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties, some of which are beyond the company's control, such as the potential impact of COVID-19 pandemic, on the business and operations that could cause actual results to differ materially, and you should not rely on them as predictions for future events. A10 does not intend to update information contained in these forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. For more detailed description of the risks and uncertainties please refer to the company's most recent 10-Q and 10-K. Please note with the exception of revenue, financial measures discussed today are on a non-GAAP basis and have been adjusted to exclude certain charges. The non-GAAP financial measures are not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP, and may be different from non-GAAP financial measures presented by other companies. A reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP measures can be found in company’s press release issued earlier today and on the trended quarterly financial statements posted on the company's website. With all that said, I'd like to turn the call over to Dhrupad, Dhrupad, the call is yours.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you, Rob. And thank you all for joining us today. During the second quarter, we continue to make progress on our business transformation. While the environment remains highly fluid, with sales cycles elongated by the COVID pandemic, and business restrictions in different markets, A10 continues to focus on execution and fundamental progress. I want to thank our entire team of employees and partners for their professionalism and flexibility during this unprecedented environment. To date, we have experienced a modest and manageable COVID related impact on our business with only a slight impact on our supply chain. Customers are taking longer to make decisions. And some larger deployments have been delayed as our customers deal with business, restrictions and challenges related to the pandemic. We do not believe we have lost any business and we continue to enjoy strong and steady demand for our solutions. In fact, we deliver increases in both product and service revenue compared to last year despite these COVID related slowdowns and dealings. Overall our revenue in the second quarter was $52.5 million, up 6.7% year-over-year. From a regional standpoint, our revenue in Japan and Asia has been more impacted than other areas. And we were able to offset these challenges with strong revenue in other geographies. Increasingly, our geographic diversification with a global footprint provides resiliency and flexibility for the business. Additionally, our strong balance sheet with $143.4 million in cash and marketable securities, and no debt positions us well to weather the storms, while investing in innovation for our customers. We continue to take structural actions to streamline our business model, which will continue to bolster this advantage further. We remain laser focused on improving our execution to maximize growth and profitability. As part of this, we continue to evaluate our investment decisions with…

Tom Constantino

Analyst

Thank you, Dhrupad. As Dhrupad shared revenue in the second quarter was $52.5 million, up 6.7% year-over-year. Second quarter product revenue was $29.2 million representing 55.6% of total revenue. Service revenue was $23.3 million or 44.4% of total revenue. Security driven products revenue comprise 56% of total product revenue in Q2. As a reminder, beginning in the fourth quarter of 2019 and revise our reporting to include our largest web giant customers within the service providers vertical. Moving to our revenue from a geographic standpoint. Revenue from the Americas increased 29% from the year ago period to $24 million compared with $18.5 million in the second quarter last year. In Japan, revenue was $12.9 million, down $2 million from the year ago period, be partially to the impact of the delay of the Tokyo Olympics. A specific revenues excluding Japan declined to $1.2 million from $9.2 million in the second quarter of 2019 to $8 million in the second quarter of this year. And finally in EMEA revenue was $7.7 million increase of 70% when compared with $6.6 million in the second quarter last year. As we move beyond revenue all further metrics discussed on this call on a non-GAAP basis unless stated otherwise. A full reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results are provided in our press release in our trended quarterly financial statements posted on our website. Our second quarter total gross margin was 78.8%. Second quarter product gross margin was 77.7%, 328 basis points better than the year ago period due to favorable product mix from increased software revenue. Services gross margin in the quarter came in at 80.2% compared to 82.4% in Q2 of 2019 due to higher compensation related expenses for services personnel. We ended the quarter with headcount of 758 compared with 785 at the…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question will come from Anja Soderstrom with Sidoti. Please go ahead.

Anja Soderstrom

Analyst

I can just maybe elaborate a little bit on the expense reduction. You sounds like you did a good job there and gets more to take out some and you had anticipated. Can you just elaborate on sort of what expenses that is? And are there any COVID related expenses taken out now irrelevant to the traveling and marketing. Are there anything else to think about there in terms of expenses?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

So I think there are two categories right, Anja. And I would say, from a COVID-19 perspective, you are correct, the main impact would be related to the idea that during the second quarter particularly. There was almost a complete freeze on travel right with sales and marketing activities and so forth. Also marketing events that were typically part of that spending pattern, we had to really adapt that if you're willing to more digital presence et cetera. So, that I think is a COVID related impact that would obviously start to come back and we would look for it to come back to support organic growth going forward. So that's the only one in that type of category. The structural cost changes that we are driving have to do with if you look at the different categories at on sales and marketing side and engineering side. They have more to do with one making changes in the organization and leadership et cetera to drive a higher performance level and higher expectation and productivity. Secondly creating a tighter focus on what are the biggest customer problems we are solving? And how do we take it to market in the most effective rewrites. And in that process, we continue to look for ways to leverage channel partners versus direct sales, how do you best leverage the territory structure et cetera. And then on the G&A side, I think our thinking is related to any driving productivity and efficiency. And secondly, preventing being more aggressive on functions that are not customer impacting service or support impacting. So that we are best positioned to continue to fund innovation right that our customers see value and which is good for employees, customers in method everybody long-term.

Anja Soderstrom

Analyst

And then you mentioned the partnership. So you made some good progress on that over the past year. What can we expect? How important is that and what can we expect from forward? Like how much are you pushing that to partnership?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

I would say, first of all, I'm very excited, because that's a way for us to get to effective market coverage, better reach and more cost effectively as well. And that is probably one area where, we saw a slight impact from COVID. In the sense all sales cycles are elongated. So typically our sales cycle maybe six months. And with the new partners, right, we are seeing the same impact as anyone else in any other business. But we do see that as an important part, as we build up the pipeline and start seeing those materialize, most likely next year and hopefully somewhat showing up in the fourth quarter as well, but typical sales cycle take six months, and we are engaged with partners on actual opportunities, but they need to mature and then we'll have a steady pipeline. So it will be a really important part of our go-to-market strategy in terms of reach, as well as efficiency of reaching those customers. And we talked a little bit as well about on the enterprise side particularly we think that leveraging partners and channels is certainly an area of opportunity for us in addition to driving productivity.

Anja Soderstrom

Analyst

And then last one, the weakening U.S. dollar, you have a lot of international exposure. How are you seeing that playing out? Are you hedging anything? Or is that something that we should be concerned about?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes, no, it's not a concern and are based on that to it, right. But our transactions are U.S. dollar denominated except for Japan, I think and that's where demand is at risk.

Tom Constantino

Analyst

Yes. And we do deploy hedging strategies to the extent that we have risk because of the Yen to U.S. dollar ratio.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Hendi Susanto with Gabelli Fund. Please go ahead.

Hendi Susanto

Analyst

Good evening, Dhrupad and Tom, and then congrats on positive Q2 result. Dhrupad, could you talk more about the enterprise and business environment? And I assume that visibility is low. At the same time like many companies talk about digital transformation taking place in enterprises. So what is your view on enterprise segment?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes, so, certainly and I think you know the way I would probably split that is as you mentioned correctly, you will hear several enterprise companies comment on enterprise market being really good or really bad and I think the way I segment it further is lot of the enterprise IT projects were originally scheduled and planned and budgeted, based on the pre-COVID idea of everything becomes digital, you sell more services, micro services, et cetera. Those are the plan where we are seeing possibly a slowdown or push out because customers are dealing with more urgent topics. In the enterprise part there is a second portion of it, which is with more remote work and more need to move faster to cloud et cetera, companies are investing more in things that add capacity, flexibility, more security with people being remote, et cetera and that's where the enterprise exposure is positive, and you'll see companies as they report on both sides of that range. So far, that's really the way we focus on that market is, especially with large enterprise where there is a premium on performance, low latency, high security and ease of use, therefore, better OpEx for the customer. We certainly see that as a positive trend and expect that to be the case right and if you see one of the cases I highlighted was a large financial firm who want statement, adding capacity adding more security, but really worried about latency. So in cases where there is a premium for that, and there is it path for us, we see certainly positive trends in the enterprise. We see slow down where the enterprise for additional budget was based on pre-COVID kind of planning horizon, right. And that is typically pushed out by a couple of quarters right now, because IT groups are dealing with more urgent topics. So I hoped if that answered your question.

Hendi Susanto

Analyst

Yes, that's very helpful. And then Dhrupad as the economy reopens, do you prioritize like certain markets, like among different geographies?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Sure, so I think as you know, of course, we have a strong presence in Japan and we -- they’re going through a difficult period as well and we hope that comes around and we are positioned very well with our products and customers. Second, is for us, we also have made some progress last quarter with expanding our footprint and design scope in Europe market as well, which is good progress for us as a company. So as the economy opens up a little bit in Europe, even though today's restricted to within Europe kind of deals and travel, we expect that to be an area for us with especially focused on critical applications with high priority right. And in the North America side, on the service provider, part of the business, we saw some business up and down in the sense of companies that were shut down for so many weeks and therefore unable to do anything. But we also saw a lot of Telcos, MSO’s cloud companies actively looking to add capacity and security features right, and what we see there again is the focus for which is, yes, we can help them with all the 5G related things but in the meantime, we have good engagements, working with them on their existing infrastructure and enhancing that and getting more and more value for 5G. And lastly on enterprises as I said, it will not happen overnight. But I feel really good about things we put in place with partners and channels and so forth. That will create a good foundation for us to again focus on high value applications where we bring the most value for customers.

Hendi Susanto

Analyst

And then Dhrupad with regards to partnership with Dell, how should we think about the targets or all your focus will be enterprise service provider or both?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

So I think it can be both really right, but enterprise of course, they have a great footprint and exposure. So we will collaborate with them of course on either. And the major thing about it is a typical service provider sale is high touch, high technology. Because that's, the nature of what they do. And on the enterprise side, we expect to get more out of just the reach and access and integration with other solutions, right? So we see being positive in those ways. And as I said, a typical sales cycle is like six months, and I wish it was much faster, but we are very actively engaged with finding opportunities and building pipeline where, its advantages and attractive to both of us, right. So I can’t give you a number yet, but I'm certainly happy to update as we move forward into next quarter and beyond where the pipeline stands and what progress we are making.

Hendi Susanto

Analyst

And Dhrupad may I know, how do you plan to position A10 Networks for OTT application?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

So I think when you think about that industry, the place where we intersect with all the top applications really is. As those providers are creating data centers and huge amounts of content that they have to process and then put ad insertion and packages and different formats and all of that. The back end of that requires building large amounts of data centers, data forms, servers, et cetera. And as you can imagine, of course, that is a premium to maintaining high quality of service, independent of how that content is repackage and distributed. So in both scenarios, our goal is really to work with the OTT provider and in the backend, where they are trying to handle a lot of data in a secure way. And that's really our intersection point like, it is for gaming companies, for example, right. So that's our intersection point. It's not at the device level, but it's at the core level.

Hendi Susanto

Analyst

And then one last question, I will ask Tom. So, Tom, A10 increase its annual cost reduction to 40 million. If I look at last year operating expense, it was at like 163. So it will run let say about like 148 and if I look at the first half, and then do some calculation, it will imply that second half operating expense will be 76 million. So does that mean that all the cost action plans have been completed?

Tom Constantino

Analyst

We're constantly looking at how do we optimize, right? And so we are always looking to get as lean as we think we can here as efficient as we can be. So we're going to continue to monitor that. But we felt comfortable enough with where we're at right now to raise that bar for the full year. And the numbers you said are that's right we expect to be.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

And I would say the plans are not completed, because the original plan for the 10 million were based on a full year impact. So they were not completed in Q1 for example. But I would say the two elements are that is a structural element. And then there was a time based element, where we got temporary downtick on sales and marketing and travel and so forth, right? So I would say the fundamental structural stuff is still ongoing as it was for the full year and Q2, obviously, we felt like benefit from reduced travel.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Hamed Khorsand with BWS Financial. Please go ahead.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst

I want to start of. Is there a specific area where you're seeing the most amount of new customer addition this past quarter?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

I think so on different. I think, for us, it was pretty broad base. So when you look at our addition of 94 customers or so that we announced. I would say 95, it was it will come in Japan, Asia-Pacific, EMEA as well as America, right. And I would say nothing different than usual in that sense.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst

And then what you're seeing with customers on positive, you guys to have a lack of revenue outlook and is it purely the long game process or is it budget being cut?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes, good question. So I think from that perspective, I would say it's more the latter. And it's two things, Hamed, I think one is there are places today like where we sell that are in a lockdown where it is impossible for them to actually even go and pick up goods, right. So in those cases, the uncertainty is coming from trying to predict in country X, when they might be able to do that. And so those can be material dollars. So that's more a question of business disruption, rather than anything else. The budget side, we have not seen as a major issue so far. And part of it probably has to do with the fact that the sweet spot for us really is where service lawyers are trying to deal with more subscribers, more capacity, more data on their network and on the enterprise on large enterprise, they are dealing with people going to the mall and trying to support a more distributed environment. So we are not seen it in the sense of budgets being cancelled to do something else, but of course, there is a slowdown of where if a certain MSO is closed for two months in Q2, we don't see any progression in our sales cycle. So the sale cycle and business lockdown around them.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst

Okay. And then what is your sales team could not achieve during lockdown that requires a higher marketing expense?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

So I think a couple of things. One is obviously, if you think about how our sales team approach is with our existing customers, they have been pretty effective at calling on them and continuing to sell more products are the same product. The hardest thing is to do in that environment is adding new customers that are significant because those engagements typically need on-site demos et cetera, et cetera. So I think the area where it could impact us really is in generation of opportunities for future. And why we are fine near-term and demand is good, I of course, always want to be paranoid about am I bringing in enough new opportunities, new customers, new streams to continue growing. So I think that getting to kind of where we need to get to in the near-term is not the crux of it. It's really much more to do with, how do we then continue to enhance and build upon that for out of course.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference over to Dhrupad Trivedi for any closing remarks. Please go ahead, sir.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you. And thank you to all of our shareholders for joining us today and for your support. A10 continues to execute well amidst a challenging and uncertain environment and our strong balance sheet, global presence and improved profitability positioned us for continued success. Thank you again for your support, and have a good day.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.