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A10 Networks, Inc. (ATEN)

Q4 2022 Earnings Call· Tue, Feb 7, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. Thank you for attending today's A10 Networks’ Fourth Quarter and Full-Year 20 22 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Tamiya, and I will be your moderator for today. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions-and-answers at the end. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to pass the conference over to your host, Rob Fink. Please proceed.

Rob Fink

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining us today. This call is being recorded and may be accessed for at least 90-days via the A10 Networks’ website at A10networks.com. Hosting the call today are Dhrupad Trivedi, A10's President and CEO and CFO, Brian Becker. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that shortly after the market closed today, A10 Networks issued with a press release announcing its fourth quarter and full-year 2022 financial results. Additionally, A10 published a presentation and supplemental trended financial statements. You may access the press release, presentation and trended financial statements on the Investor Relations section of the company's website. During the course of today's call, management will be making forward-looking statements including statements regarding projections for future operating results, including potential revenue growth, industry and customer trends, capital allocation strategy, supply chain constraints, expectations, company's positioning and repurchase and dividend programs along with its market share. These statements are based on current expectations and beliefs as of today February 7, 2023. These forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties, some of which are beyond the company's control such as the potential impact of COVID-19 on the business and operations that could cause actual results to differ materially and you should not rely on them as predictions for future events. A10 does not intend to update information contained in the forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise unless required by law. For a more detailed description of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to the company's most recent 10-K. Please note with the exception of revenue, financial measures discussed today are on a non-GAAP basis and have been adjusted to exclude certain charges. The non-GAAP financial measures are not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP and may be different from non-GAAP financial measures presented by other companies. A reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP measures can be found in the press release issued today and on the trended quarterly financial statements posted on the company's website. With all that said, I'd like to turn the call over to Dhrupad Trivedi. Dhrupad, the call is yours.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you all, and thank you all for joining us today. This was another record year for A10 with top and bottom-line performance that validates A10's solid position in the marketplace and the earning power of our business. We continue to deliver revenue growth that exceeds the growth rate of the industry as we gain market share with best-in-class proprietary solutions. With strong gross margin and rigorous expense management, our bottom line grew faster than our top line and we utilized our robust cash generation to invest in technology for future growth and return capital to shareholders. Our management team has delivered consistent financial and operational results in spite of macro challenges. This is a testament to our team, our focus on execution and our loyal global customer base that continues to embrace our solutions. The part of our business related to cybersecurity and revenue generating solutions for customers is increasingly durable, while we navigate increased volatility in areas of our business related to modernization. Our focus on critical network infrastructure and security solutions continues to drive our growth. Even when CapEx investments are moderated due to economy or interest rates, our solutions are prioritized. This is evident in the 14% product revenue growth in the quarter and the fact that we delivered strong growth in key regions such as the Americas and Asia Pacific. On a trailing 12-month basis, our product revenue is up 17%. As we have said in the past, and evidenced by performance in the fourth quarter, we are not reliant on any single geographic region and in fact, we are generating growth on a constant currency basis in nearly every region of the world where we operate. We have done our best to build a risk mitigated business model, which we believe is largely insulated…

Brian Becker

Analyst

Thank you, Dhrupad. Fourth quarter revenue was a record $77.6 million, up 9.9% year-over-year. Product revenue for the quarter was $49.6 million, representing [63.9%] (ph) of total revenue, up 13.5% year-over-year. Services revenue, which includes maintenance and support revenue, was $28.1 million or 36.1% of total revenue. Moving to our revenue from a geographic standpoint. Revenue from North America was $41.2 million, up 21.8%. On a constant currency basis, revenue in Japan increased approximately 8% year-over-year in Q4. As you can see on our balance sheet, our deferred revenue was $127 million as of December 31, 2022, up 45 year-over-year. On a constant currency basis, deferred revenue would have increased 8% year-over-year. This is a result of the geographic mix and the alignment with our global growth targets. For the exception of revenue, all of the metrics discussed on this call on a non-GAAP basis unless otherwise stated. A full reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results are provided in our press release and on our website. Gross margin in the fourth quarter was 80.3%. As Dhrupad mentioned, we believe we successfully mitigated the impact of industry-wide global supply chain constraints and input cost increases during Q4. We reported $19.8 million in non-GAAP operating income, a record result, up 13%, compared with $17.6 million in the year ago quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was $22.3 million for the quarter, also a record reflecting 28.7% of revenue. Non-GAAP net income for the quarter was up 12% year-over-year to $18.4 million or $0.24 on a per share basis. From net income of $16.4 million or $0.20 per share in the fourth quarter last year. Diluted weighted shares used for computing non-GAAP EPS for the fourth quarter were approximately 75.4 million shares, compared to 80.3 million shares in the year ago quarter. On a GAAP basis,…

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you, Brian. A10 is a diversified differentiated company with significant earnings power. Our revenue growth outpaces that of our market. Revenue growth also significantly exceeds expense growth, leading to acceleration of EBITDA, net income and cash flow. We continue to navigate economic headwinds and supply chain constraints. Our highly differentiated technical platform combined with our ability to achieve diversification in all aspects of our business has mitigated these impacts on our business, enabling us to deliver consistent performance. Our solutions are exceedingly well aligned with durable secular catalysts, which results in sustainable performance. I'm excited about A10's future and want to thank all our investors customers and employees for their support. Operator, you can now open the call up for questions.

Operator

Operator

Absolutely. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Hamed Khorsand with BWS Financial. You may proceed.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst

Hi. So first off, I just wanted to get a good understanding of what are you seeing as far as these extended cycles that is causing you deviate from actually providing a target range for revenue beyond just the commentary?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes. No, good question, Hamed. So I think what we -- I would say, are seeing varies a little bit by regions, right? So as you can see in the numbers, we have seen improvement in the backdrop and the macro environment certainly in Asia, Japan and a little bit in Europe as well. I think where we are seeing that extended cycle probably is most specifically applicable to North America customers, who continue to remain a little bit concerned whether it's due to economy, interest rate, CapEx cost and are not canceling any project or planned investments, but we are seeing them be less visible than we are used to see, right? So I would say that's how I would characterize it. As we -- they still a plan to do that, but what is extending the cycle is there's a little bit more extra process and little bit more, kind of, concern around moving faster if you will. So I think that's probably the most specific connection point.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst

Are you seeing increased competition that's creating some of this hesitation on customers' end? Are you seeing pricing pressure as well?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes. So good question, so it's not pricing pressure per se, and I think our customers typically look at us from a total cost of ownership perspective and I think economically we are pretty well aligned and compelling for them. We are not necessarily also seeing a change in the competitive landscape, because in many of these cases, right, we don't typically go after SMB segment, which has a lot of qualified suppliers, who are constantly adjusting share position. In many of our cases, the customer spends six to nine months plus integrating us into their operating system then their procedures and so forth. So I think that's not necessarily what is changing that pattern. It's more around they have CapEx buying cycles that can fluctuate on timing and their own risk perception and we are seeing companies doing layoffs and trimming their cost position to be more conservative, right? So it's more to do with navigating through that uncertain period. It's certainly we are not seeing any increase in losses or any of those items.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst

You were able to post revenue at least from my perspective that was a little bit higher than what I was projecting. So when did you see this slowdown or extended cycles developing for you?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes. So I think we started seeing it probably towards the end of December going into January period. And I would say that's why I was connecting it more so to North America customer base more than anything else. And I think that's a little bit coincident with quite a lot of company's trimming position, calling inflation, calling interest rate concerns and so forth. So I think it's -- we haven't had to do anything along those lines, but obviously a lot of our peers and larger companies have make those adjustments typically end of December or in January time frame.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Anja Soderstrom with Sidoti. You may proceed.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst · Sidoti. You may proceed.

Hi, Anja.

Anja Soderstrom

Analyst · Sidoti. You may proceed.

Alright. Can you guys hear me?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst · Sidoti. You may proceed.

Yes. We can hear you.

Unidentified Participant

Analyst · Sidoti. You may proceed.

Hi. This is [Stefan Gill] (ph) in for Anja Soderstrom. My first question is how much of the expenses are within your control? And how does that affect your ability like to control your margins?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst · Sidoti. You may proceed.

Yes. So I think, you know, if you look at the last 10 or 12 quarters of our business, we are able to flex our cost structure where the expense growth or OpEx growth is always lower than the top line growth. So even when the revenue growth is lower, OpEx growth is even lower. And I think that has what has enabled us to deliver consistently expanding EBITDA margin, right? And if you think of the variables, our gross margin is pretty stable. And so we take actions to make sure we are offsetting costs and price. But beyond that, on the OpEx perspective, we remain flexible and plan full around being able to accommodate that level of revenue mediation, right? So, obviously, we cannot switch completely on and off, but we build in lot of levers to our operating cost, whether it's in R&D, sales and marketing or G&A, that enables us to flex it [Indiscernible].

Unidentified Participant

Analyst · Sidoti. You may proceed.

Alright. Thank you. And my second question is have you seen any changes in your customers decision-making process given the uncertain macro environment?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst · Sidoti. You may proceed.

Yes. So I think what we are seeing is that typical clear cycle in terms of the behavior change. If there is a little bit more scrutiny or investment, if you will, and I think it's difficult. I mean, that, you know, a little bit longer, the signature sign of other than maybe instead of five people being involved in that purchasing loop, it's now seven, right? And so I think we certainly see in terms of being cautious before they commit to spending. But as I was saying before where -- so where it's related to deep modernizing their digital infrastructure. They are may be more cautious, where it's related to -- we are helping them generate more on new type of revenue. Obviously, they are moving as fast as before, right? So I think, I would say -- part of the business that is more related to just modernization and transforming their IT. That's probably what is being scrutinized the most

Unidentified Participant

Analyst · Sidoti. You may proceed.

[Technical Difficulty] for me, are you actively looking for any M&A opportunities? Like, how is the M&A landscape?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst · Sidoti. You may proceed.

Yes. No good question, Stefan. So as we mentioned before, we continue to evaluate opportunities and there's all kinds that come across the wire, we are pretty well understood in the industry in terms of what is our strict profile what we are looking for. But we look for two factors: One, is does it accelerate our growth in terms of our strategic areas of growth. And second is, right, can we make the financials work consistent with our business model and long-term goals as well? So We continue to evaluate it, but our primary focus is investing in the business for organic growth first, and we'll be opportunistic if there are opportunities to do anything inorganic [Indiscernible].

Unidentified Participant

Analyst · Sidoti. You may proceed.

Thank you so much for taking my questions.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst · Sidoti. You may proceed.

Thank you, Stefan.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Tyler Burmeister with Craig-Hallum Capital. You may proceed.

Tyler Burmeister

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital. You may proceed.

Hey, guys. Thanks for letting us ask a couple of questions. So first, I guess, if you guys could provide any additional color, I understand that given a number for revenue growth next year, but just some maybe seasonality or linearity through the year. I would suspect maybe the first half is going to be even softer than it typically is and you talked about kind of a six-month sales process to some customers. So do you have pretty good visibility in the first half and just maybe lacking visibility in the second half? Is that some of the uncertainty around that provided number?

A - Dhrupad Trived

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital. You may proceed.

Yes. Good question, Tyler, and then I'll jump in and then Brian can add to that, So I think you are right, because the dynamic we are seeing is more around customer deferral of spending versus competitive loss. That's why even in our own pipeline and funnel, what we see is certainly, maybe seasonality being stronger. And our normal seasonality is 48%, 52%, but we think based on the pipeline movement we see that some of these larger deals. We certainly think that it looks like some of it will differ into the later part of the year, right? So I think -- so we think net revenue wise, we understand kind of where we look for the year, but we certainly see shift where things move. And it's a committed project. We wanted no competition, right? It’s purely a deployment decision, but we are certainly seeing that moving a little bit more to the back half than the front end. We can -- Brian, I don't know anything you want to add to that?

Brian Becker

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital. You may proceed.

Yes. I mean, we typically see a 52%, 48%mix being 48% first half, 52% second half. I think what we're seeing is some similar behavior that we saw in 2021 and there was a lot of uncertainty, a lot of closures from the pandemic. I think not related to closures, but related more to FX and interest rates. We're seeing it's just a similar pattern or it's a little slower outlook for the year than I think we saw this past year 2022. Similar to 2021, but we don't think we're seeing a loss of the opportunities. It's just simply a timing issue.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital. You may proceed.

So it's looking more like 2021 than 2022, right at this point.

Tyler Burmeister

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital. You may proceed.

I appreciate that color. That's very helpful. And then last, I just wanted to give you as an opportunity. You announced a security breach internally. Just want to give you an opportunity to comment on that? I think you said it was internal, it wasn't your products, it wasn't with customers, just any other color you'd like to give there?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital. You may proceed.

Sure. Sure. Yes. So I think that is a good point, Tyler, and I think obviously the first point is as a company that is involved with customers and doing security, we felt it appropriate to be transparent and open with our investors, customers and employees. And what as we said, right, what we do know is, like many, many other companies, we had some kind of a cyber incident and we use external experts and this was obviously not subsequent to end of the year. And so we use experts and what we know based on all of that analysis is this is not related to any of the products or solutions that our customers use for security, it was related to more of something within our corporate IT infrastructure. And so we launched the investigation, engaged experts and advisers. And, obviously, we are working with the right authorities. But, you know, we felt it also critical to inform in a transparent way all of our stakeholders as we navigate this, right? So the issue as far as we understand is contained, but we obviously are going to learn to continue to strengthen our own security posture, while we engage our customers deeply to more things for them. But this was not connected at all with any of our products that they use.

Tyler Burmeister

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital. You may proceed.

That sounds perfect. That's all for me. Thanks guys.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital. You may proceed.

Very good. Thank you, Tyler.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions waiting at this time. I will now pass it back to Dhrupad for closing remarks.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you. Thanks to all of our shareholders for joining us today. And for your continued support. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes the conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.