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Atlantic Union Bankshares Corporation (AUB)

Q3 2016 Earnings Call· Thu, Oct 20, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is James and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Union Bankshares Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks there will be question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Bill Cimino, Vice President of Corporate Communications, you may begin your conference.

Bill Cimino

Analyst

Thank you, James and good morning everyone. I have Union Bankshares CEO, Billy Beale; Union Bankshares President and Union Bank & Trust President and CEO, John Asbury; and Executive Vice President and CFO, Rob Gorman with me today. Also joining us for the question-and-answer period are Elizabeth Bentley, EVP and Chief Retail Officer; Dave Bilko EVP and Chief Risk Officer; and Jeff Farrar, EVP of Wealth Management Insurance and Mortgage. Please note that today's earnings release is available to download on our Investor Web site investors.bankatunion.com. Before I turn the call over to Billy, I would like to remind everyone that we will make forward-looking statements on today's call which are subject to risks and uncertainties. A full discussion of the company's risk factors are included in our SEC filings. At the end of the call, we will take questions from the research analyst community. And now I will turn the call over to Billy Beale.

Billy Beale

Analyst

Good morning, Bill or thank you, Bill and good morning everyone. I appreciate you taking time out of your day to be on the call and certainly I feel like we have exciting news this morning. Union has produced another quarter of double-digit loan growth; double-digit deposit growth. We showed significant improvements in our profitability metrics clearing a return on assets of 1% and a return on tangible common equity of 12. The organization during the quarter continues to work to become more efficient. And we're also reflecting solid growth in non-interest income. I believe that the third quarter results showed that we are clearly on the path to achieve the top-tier financial performance that we have been sharing with the investment community for the last 18 months. We earned $20.4 million or $0.47 a share an increase of approximately 12% over the prior year's third quarter net income level and year-to-date our net income is up 15% over last year. We continue to capitalize on organic growth in our markets and I think this is a reflection of improving Virginia economy as well as the brand strength that Union has as we continue to grow market share in each of our markets. As I mentioned loan growth improved, again, this quarter's total loans came in at 14% annualized, growth for the quarter. Our production levels remained steady. Our pipeline remains study and the growth was broad-based across our footprint in both the consumer and the commercial loan categories. Our loan pipelines remain robust going into the fourth quarter and given the strong growth year-to-date of 11.2% annualized in the strong pipeline we are now expecting loan growth for the year to be in the low double digits. This is up from the upper single-digit guidance that we had previously…

John Asbury

Analyst

Thank you, Billy, and good morning everyone. As Billy noted I joined Union on October 1. So, I won't comment directly on the third quarter financial results and instead I will deal with my initial observations about the company and our path through the transition. As many of you know I was born and raised and educated in Virginia. I began my banking career nearly 3 decades ago at the Old Wachovia Bank in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, before moving to Roanoke to work at NationsBank. NationsBank later sent me to Richmond and I have spent nearly a decade as a banker in Virginia. So, while I have been away since then I have been aware of Union for some time and I've long admired with Billy and the Union team have been able to accomplish with this great franchise. Now, hitting my third week I have been quite busy meeting our teammates across multiple departments and regions and our customers. I have been impressed by the energy, the enthusiasm that both our teammates and our customers have toward Union and our traditional relationship branded value proposition. And those common themes that I'm hearing from customers are that our bankers take the time to understand their needs and objectives. That we do -- we say we are going to do and if they trust us. I think that's a defensible competitive position in my opinion and long that last. During the interview process, I had the chance to review the strategic plan in addition to the publicly available information for the company. So I have been getting up to speed on the detailed progress the team has made on the strategic plan and I feel quite confident that the financial targets that have been laid out our achievable in the established timeframe. I will continue to dig deeper into the organization and planned to visit all of our banking regions by the end of the year to continue to listen to our teammates and customers and learn what Union can do even better. I will also hit the road to meet the institutional shareholders and analysts to keep our lines of communication open. So to summarize, now, three weeks in, I firmly believe the company is on the right track. I am deeply honored to have been selected to succeed the Billy. I am having a lot of fun and today I am even more excited about the opportunity to lead Union forward than I was when I accepted the position. With that, I will turn the call over to Rob to cover the financial results for the quarter. Rob?

Rob Gorman

Analyst

Thank you, John and good morning everyone. Thanks for joining us today on the call. I would now like to take a few minutes to walk you through some of the details of our financial results for the third quarter. As Billy noted earnings for the third quarter were $20.4 million or $0.47 per share. That's up 6.8% from the second quarter's $0.44 earnings per share and 17.5% higher than last year's third quarter's earnings up $0.40 per share. On a year-to-date basis Union has earned $1.29 per share which represents an 18.3% increase over the prior year's $1.09 earnings per share level. The Community Bank segment results were $19.6 million or $0.45 per share in third quarter, while the mortgage segment contributed a profit of $785,000 or $0.02 per share as compared to $539,000 in the second quarter and that was due to increased mortgage loan origination levels. Mortgage has now earned $1.4 million on a year-to-date basis versus a net loss in the prior year's nine-month period of $100,000. So very good strong progress in the mortgage bottom line year-over-year. During the quarter, we continued to make progress on our path to top-tier financial performance with noted improvements in our profitability metrics this quarter. As Billy mentioned return on tangible common equity was 12% that's up 40 basis points from the second quarter and up 130 basis points from 10.7% in the same period last year. Return on assets was 1% up 2 basis points from 98 basis points in the second quarter and an increase of 4 basis points from the third quarter in 2015. Year-to-date return on assets is now at 95 basis points and that's up from 88 basis points in the same time period last year. The company's efficiency ratio increased 30 basis points…

Bill Cimino

Analyst

Thanks Rob. James, we are ready for some questions now.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from the line of William Wallace from Raymond James. Your line is open.

William Wallace

Analyst

Good morning, guys.

Billy Beale

Analyst

Good morning, Wallace. How are you?

William Wallace

Analyst

Good. Thank you. A few questions here. Maybe I'll start with the expenses. So, I saw an article yesterday about that you guys aren't going to be operating five in-store branches when Martin sells to Publix. Is that the five you're talking about closing or those five more that are coming?

Rob Gorman

Analyst

Wallace, this is Rob. We closed five in September. Those aren't connected to the Publix sale. We recently announced what you saw publicized we are going to -- we've got six branches that where Martin stores that Publix purchased that we will not remain in those stores. Two of the six will be closed. One in the fourth quarter and another one in the first quarter…

Billy Beale

Analyst

That was the December and January ones that I mentioned.

Rob Gorman

Analyst

Yes. The other four, we will be relocating those branches in the area where they are to today. And that two more will be closing beyond the five that we talked about.

William Wallace

Analyst

But, then you're going to be moving four from in-store to regular branches?

Billy Beale

Analyst

Most likely we will be in retail space because those were in shopping centers now. We have signed leases for two of them already that will be in the same shopping center in a storefront type location. And these are branches that had significant deposits in them. I'll say north of $30 million. So we want to retain those opportunities and that relationship with those customers, but there won't be brick and mortar.

William Wallace

Analyst

Okay. So the cost -- this is what it really boils down to the cost will be net of the two closures those four will cost about the same as the four that are in the stores?

Billy Beale

Analyst

Probably a little higher because we are going to be occupying more square feet.

William Wallace

Analyst

Okay. So, do we still think that the guidance that has been discussed in the past about an expense run rate settling in, in the $54 million to $54.5 million once all the regulatory projects are completed is that still the right level to think about?

Rob Gorman

Analyst

I think what we're looking at right now is, we have increased our guidance on that to be more in that $55.5 million to $56 million level primarily due to some additional regulatory cost that are coming in. Also factoring in the full run rate's of the recent acquisition that we made in the wealth management front and the new [IPOs] [ph] that we opened recently.

William Wallace

Analyst

Okay. I don't know why. I thought there were some prices; there were some cost that were coming off related to the Old Dominion acquisition?

Rob Gorman

Analyst

Basically, it's incremental cost. Remember there's plenty of revenue to offset -- it's pretty high profit margin on that.

William Wallace

Analyst

Okay.

Rob Gorman

Analyst

Go ahead. Sorry.

William Wallace

Analyst

That's helpful. So $55.5 million to $56 million is where we are going to settle in. It sounds like -- from what I understood in your prepared remarks that starts next quarter.

Rob Gorman

Analyst

Yes. You should be seeing a decline quarter-to-quarter as we're talking some non-recurring expenses during the quarter that will not continue in the fourth quarter some elevated incentive and profit sharing cost as well as some succession planning cost and of course the $400,000 branch closure cost that were incurred this quarter.

William Wallace

Analyst

And those closure cost, were those in the occupancy line?

Rob Gorman

Analyst

No. They were in the other expense line our press release.

William Wallace

Analyst

Okay. Good. And then on to margin. You mentioned three to four basis points of pressure moving forward. Is that off of this 367 core rate which included the lower margin because your loan fees were down? Or would that be off of a higher base if you kind of come back to a normal…

Rob Gorman

Analyst

Yes. It's on a lower end. It really depends. As we said, the loan fees two to three basis points and they will come back. That would somewhat mitigate that impression. We are assuming that as we look forward we assume that the current level of loan fee for the quarter continue but that would be fluctuating higher or lower, but probably higher.

William Wallace

Analyst

Okay. And in the past you had suggested that a fed hike of 25 basis points would benefit NIM by three to five basis points, but then you said you are modeling one in December but you are still expecting three to four basis points of pressure in the first half of 2017 quarter?

Rob Gorman

Analyst

Yes. It could be a little lower than that in the first quarter, but we've got pressure from a LIBOR funding perspective that could offset that benefit in the fed funds area -- sorry, fed funds really impact.

William Wallace

Analyst

Okay. Okay. All right. That's helpful. Then my last question just housekeeping for the tax rate , if I back out the credits that you highlighted in the release, I get a tax rate of 29% give or take, which is significantly higher than the 25% that you are expecting for the fourth quarter. Am I doing something wrong or is 29% what it would have been, had you not had these credits or these credit something that you have some amount of every quarter. I'm just trying to because that's normally been around 26% or 25%?

Rob Gorman

Analyst

Yes. Looking at the effective tax rate looking, you can't just look at it on a one quarter basis and look at kind of over time. So, it's really an effective tax rate for the full year which getting back to the 25% level. So, looking at it from a year-to-date perspective about a one quarter basis.

William Wallace

Analyst

Okay. So if I wanted to look at what your earnings were this quarter if tax had been sort of normalized it would be 25-ish tax rate not 29, okay. Thank you.

Rob Gorman

Analyst

Yes.

William Wallace

Analyst

Okay. All right. That's helpful.

Rob Gorman

Analyst

If we didn't have the tax credit it would be more in the 26% range on the full-year basis. So the 25 does include the impact of that credit in the third quarter.

William Wallace

Analyst

Okay. I see it. Okay. Thank you very much. I appreciate your time guys. I'll let somebody else ask some questions.

Rob Gorman

Analyst

Thank Wallace.

Bill Cimino

Analyst

Thanks Wallace. James, we are ready for our next caller please.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Catherine Mealor from KBW. Your line is open.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning everyone.

Billy Beale

Analyst

Good morning, Cathy.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Wallace hit most of mine but I may ask some more on mortgage. Mortgage obviously was better this quarter. How should we think about I would imagine that origination will slow as you move to the fourth and first quarters with seasonality. And so how should we think about the profitability of the mortgage segment as we move into seasonally slower quarters. Do you feel like you've got some of the cost to back up of these costs now realign so you can still keep that segment profitable even as originations normalize a little bit or do you really need a certain level of origination volume to keep the segment profitable. Thanks.

Jeff Farrar

Analyst

Good morning, Catherine. How are you?

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Hey, Jeff.

Jeff Farrar

Analyst

So, what I would say is yes, we would expect seasonality to start kicking in here in the fourth quarter. But, I will tell you October has been very strong. We haven't seen any drop off yet. We are optimistic about that. We think fourth quarter should hold up pretty well even if we start to see some decline in volumes. So that's the good news in terms of the fourth quarter. From a longer-term perspective as we look at first quarter where you would expect even more seasonality what I would say is that we've gotten their breakeven down in terms of volume to a much lower level than we were experiencing this time last year. We think our profitability, it's somewhere in the $35 million to $40 million of production range. We think we can hold that with the current level of LOs that we had in the production levels that we are seeing from our group. The inclination is that we should not have a problem at least maintaining breakeven in this lower volume periods. And I guess the wildcard there is, if we can be successful on elevating the LO hiring process and the first quarter is really the recruiting season, we should maybe even do better than that. So, I think we are in a better place. Had we squeezed all the expenses out there we can. I think we have from a compensation -- from a personnel standpoint. I mean we do carry some excess capacity, but we want to do that because we're trying to grow the business. And so we are trying to maintain that capacity in the anticipation we are going to be successful in ramping up our recruiting efforts. That is continued to be a challenge. We did at a couple LOs in the quarter. But, things are so good right now; it's just very difficult to pull the LOs from other shops. But we do thank as things start slowing down that that opportunity will improve.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Thanks, Jeff. And then, if one follow-up on the margin. Your guidance for an additional three to four basis points next quarter, Rob, is that mostly coming from loan yields? I see both loan held for sale look like that came down each quarter, and then, the core loan yield exceed the accretion. From here should we expect some stabilization, let's just say outside of a higher rate by moving funds rate that we won't see another increase in cost of funds? Or do you still think that the cost of funds will continue to increase as well as you will see the loan yields falling down. I guess, I was surprised to see the increase in the cost of funds this quarter.

Rob Gorman

Analyst

Yes. One of the things driving that is the mix that you saw this quarter. We saw some increases in our CD balances which obviously are a bit higher cost than the core deposit categories. So as we continue to see the level of growth that we have seen on the loan side we are looking at our deposit pricing strategy to make sure that we maintain loan and deposit ratio in the mid-90s range and if you look at today probably [indiscernible] so we continue to evaluate what strategies we entail from a pricing point of view to ensure that we draw in more deposits. But so we are making a bit more pressure on that front. There also could be -- continue to see pressure as you know LIBOR rates have moved up fairly significantly during the quarter. Not so much as three to 12 months levels in terms. We did see some pressure on that from a wholesale borrowing perspective with Federal Home Loan Bank. Not quite as much during this quarter based on what you saw in the increases in LIBOR, but Federal Home Loan Bank is typically based on a blend of treasuries and one month LIBOR. So you may see some pressure on that going forward as well. So I guess it's basically a combination of the 2. We will continue to see compression in the loan yields, we put on loans this quarter around that 405 to 410 range. And as you will see in the quarter loan yields were -- our portfolio was at 29. So, you'll continue to see some pressure on that point as well.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Okay, great. Super helpful. And congrats on your retirement Billy and welcome to Union John.

John Asbury

Analyst

Thank you, Catherine. Look forward to meeting you.

Billy Beale

Analyst

Thanks Catherine.

Bill Cimino

Analyst

Thanks Catherine. James, we are ready for our next caller please.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Laurie Hunsicker from Compass Point. Your line is open.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst

Great. Hi. Good morning. Billy, congratulations. It's been great. And John also welcome.

Billy Beale

Analyst

I still have one quarter to go Laurie but you may [indiscernible].

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst

Hopefully, we will hear from you next quarter too. Last earnings call though it's exciting. Just to go back to what Wally and Catherine were talking about in terms of margin. Just if you can clarify this to me. When you are giving guidance next quarter about three to four basis point compression, are you talking about from the core margin of 367?

Rob Gorman

Analyst

Yes. Yes, I'm talking primarily the core margin, right.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst

Okay. So, as I'm looking here at your accretion income schedule you've actually got accretion income model to drop from what was 1.5 to what was 1.1. So, all else being equal that would put your reported margin around 370 for the December quarter, so six basis points reported compression.

Rob Gorman

Analyst

You are right. Based on the drop in the accretion that we expected, we had nine basis points of accretion this quarter that's going to drop as well based on the model.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst

Okay, good. I just wanted to make sure I was thinking about that the right way. Okay. And then, also just to circle back on expenses here. Can you just hit the highlights obviously we know the non-recurring piece of $400,000 related to the branch closures, but where the other non-recurring items in your $57 million. I mean obviously, we had CEO succession how much was that one time?

Rob Gorman

Analyst

Well, CEO was approximately $300,000 during the quarter. The other components there were we adjusted our various incentive plans based on financial forms of the company year-to-date as well as now projecting going forward for the full-year. As you saw big component of that was our commercial incentive plans that you saw we had significant growth this quarter, which looks like it will continue on a full year basis in the double-digit levels as we talk earlier so there were adjustments related to that. There were adjustments related to profit sharing plan that the company has which is based on net income and growth and net income as well as management incentive plans again based on various metrics including net income loan growth, deposit growth those sort of things.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst

How much were the one-time cost?

Rob Gorman

Analyst

If you look at it incrementally over the prior quarter was about $1.4 million increase. That's going to drop off because we said our accruals for the year-to-date basis. That so-called addition will drop-off in the fourth quarter as we now are year-to-date fully accrued for the level that we expect for the full year. So those are the primary.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst

Okay. Good. That's helpful. And then, assets under management, where does that stand currently?

Jeff Farrar

Analyst

Laurie, we are at $2.290 billion and that compares to $1.865 billion this time -- not this time but December 31, 2015.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then, could you just give us an update to on King Carter, where does that currently stand?

Billy Beale

Analyst

There has been no activity -- let me put this way, there has been no sale.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst

So, you're still at about 2.5 there?

Billy Beale

Analyst

We are still at 2.5. We have been doing too aggressively market it, but there were no transactions.

Rob Gorman

Analyst

I will say Billy on that point, we've got about $1.5 billion under contract for the fourth quarter. There's a component loss. I think there is a part of King Carter. So, not any 10% of that balance would be what's under contract currently that we would expect to close in the fourth quarter. No movement in the third quarter, Laurie.

Billy Beale

Analyst

Yes. The OREO is down to $10.6 million, which is less than half then what it was this time last year. But, we are continuing to make progress and it looks like a little bit in the King Carter.

Rob Gorman

Analyst

As Billy mentioned that continue to be a whole deal.

Billy Beale

Analyst

Unless something comes in and buys the whole thing, it will be…

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst

Okay. And then, your shutter branches, obviously, we saw as a little movement in that this quarter. Where does that number go as we look to next year, the $2.7 million?

Billy Beale

Analyst

She wants to know -- while, we have got -- you want to talk about those from branches with that include the stamp and office center?

Jeff Farrar

Analyst

We've got some good activity going on relative to both sales of buildings that we're not using as well as some opportunities to consolidate. So we've got one of op centers under contract. That was $1.3 million that [indiscernible] Salem's op center and we are looking at some other opportunities to combine if you will some spaces that we don't have good utilization and some more to come there, but I think the biggest negative is still an op center.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst

Is that going to close in the fourth quarter?

Jeff Farrar

Analyst

The hope could be that it would. Yes.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst

Okay. Because I initially had in my notes that you all expected $2.3 million to close, what was under contract expected to close in the third quarter, so that slid a little bit?

Billy Beale

Analyst

Yes. There were a couple things that were under contract that rolled into the fourth quarter not at a lot. But, there were a couple of contracts that's still out in the quarter that we will have.

John Asbury

Analyst

Maybe we were down $2.8 million.

Billy Beale

Analyst

Yes.

John Asbury

Analyst

I can think of three shutter branches that did close during the quarter. So we did have some good activity on some of the branch locations. One of which was…

Billy Beale

Analyst

That branch side we had about $650,000 of sales, so we have been down to the level that brought down from the previous quarter plus $700,000.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst

Okay, great. Fantastic. And then, just one last question. Can you update us, obviously, you have very strong loan growth this quarter annualized and you have indicated strong loan growth. Can you just update us in terms of your new Charlotte team and your new Riley team in terms of how they are doing production wise both this quarter and how you see it here in the next few quarters? Thanks.

Rob Gorman

Analyst

We've had some -- we were better than original plan on that front. As of the end of September we had about $20 million to $23 million book to loans and there is a nice pipeline that is building. We expect that will continue to grow during the fourth quarter through year end. So we are ahead of what we had originally projected in terms of breakeven on that. I think we said about 1.5 years or so would be the breakeven. I think we were -- we may see that come a lot sooner maybe within a year or so if we keep on this pace. But it's been a real strong performer since opening that in June. Pretty good pipeline and we booked some nice loans.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Bill Cimino

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Laurie. James, we are ready for our next caller please.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Austin Nicholas from Stephens Incorporated. Your line is open.

Austin Nicholas

Analyst

Guys, good morning, and welcome to the call John. Just a couple questions here and what some more answers. But, maybe just looking at fees, wealth management saw some pretty good growth. As I think about that line over the next year or so should we continue to see acquisitions of kind of smaller wealth management firm layer into that and so what sort of business model and maybe assets under management size are you targeting?

Jeff Farrar

Analyst

Austin, this is Jeff. We certainly are continuing to pursue a strategy around acquiring registered investment advisory firms that fit currently. We'd like to build on the platform that we have acquired. We think we have got a solid platform with Old Dominion. So that's probably the primary strategy would be to just add-in if you will or fold in acquisitions. Having said that though, we certainly would look at larger shops if they fit the strategy, and then, evaluate how we would structure that. So that's an active strategy. We are having ongoing conversations with various firms and are optimistic that that will happen for us. As I look to just the core wealth group, we've got a little bit of headwinds associated with the DOL legislation coming down the pike. So, we know that we are going to have a little bit of haircut of the income associated with that. And we are working closely with Raymond James to figure out a strategy around how we implement that in the spring. For instance, annuity sales will come under pressure. Annuity sales for us represent about 20% of what we generate in our brokerage division roughly $1 million annualized. It remains to be seen how much that's impacted, but certainly the way we sell annuities is going to change. So that's the one headwind that I would point to. In terms of just core business. I think that the team deals that we have got a lot of momentum right now we've got a solid pipeline so we are expecting good solid organic growth as well in 2017.

Austin Nicholas

Analyst

Okay. Thanks appreciate that color there. That's very helpful. And then, just maybe similarly on looking on the bigger picture on the companies M&A strategy for whole banks. Could you refresh my memory on what that is? I know that there was different scenarios on how the company crosses the $10 million mark, has there been any change in thinking on the strategy in order to make that kind of jump over?

Billy Beale

Analyst

No. But I'll go ahead and refresh your memory just to what our current thinking is. We are continuing to look and would be excited to have the opportunity to be able to infill, if you would, within our footprint with an organization somewhere in that $800 million to $1.3 billion in size where we could have cost saves above 60% certainly above 50% and we could maximize EPS for our shareholders and gain some efficiencies. After that, we would be looking for something larger to cross $10 billion that could be somewhere in that depending on where we are somewhere in the $2 billion, $3 billion range. Organically, Austin, we are tracking toward $10 billion probably fourth quarter 2018, first quarter 2019 now if we stay at this low double-digit loan growth.

Austin Nicholas

Analyst

Got you. Okay. Well, I appreciate it guys. That's all I've got. And I'll let somebody else hop on. Thanks, guys.

Bill Cimino

Analyst

Thanks Austin. And James, we have time for one more caller please.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David West from Davenport. Your line is open.

David West

Analyst

Good morning. Billy, let me add my congratulations and best wishes for a happy retirement.

Billy Beale

Analyst

Well, thank you, David.

David West

Analyst

Thank you. Couple questions. Loan growth as you noted in your comments was very broad spread. Could you comment a little bit as to geography. I think in the past kind of Richmond, Fredericksburg, was perhaps the areas of highest growth.

Billy Beale

Analyst

Well, yes, I would say we were very -- let me -- hold on here. Let me get to my right-- proper page here. Richmond because it represents such a large part of our franchise if you look at it in a dollar basis is continuing to produce the most dollars of growth. But we are still running double-digit loan growth there. The others on a dollar basis that are producing well for us are Hampton roads market, Charlottesville, Fredericksburg actually is second behind Richmond. And we are also starting to see some really nice growth out of the Southwest area as we really had some opportunities to rejuvenate that team and take advantage of what's been some disruption in that market. So, we are really getting it across-the-board. And uniformly and we've got some of our smaller markets that I've said are punching above their weight class as far as gains and percentage of loans. But, we are still being driven by Richmond, Northern Virginia, Charlottesville is our three largest.

David West

Analyst

Very good. I know it's only been a little over a month since some of that disclosures at Wells, but have you seen any customer reaction either loan deposit wise yet, do you see that as a potential net benefit to Union?

Elizabeth Bentley

Analyst

This is Elizabeth. We've seen a smattering of customers coming to us out of concern. So, we have certainly welcomed them and helped them transition business. I wouldn't say there's been a groundswell of change yet.

David West

Analyst

Okay. All right. Very good. And I guess last question. The company was obviously very significant in-store branch came after you acquired First Market and it seems with the recent actions you are continuing to back further away from that, do you see a day when you don't have in-store branches?

Elizabeth Bentley

Analyst

Well, that's certainly possible. We're solidifying our plans for the six that we know. We are business as usual in the six that we will have after this particular phase of Martin sale is complete. It's important that these branches have been good locations for us. It's important for us that customers have continuity of service. So, I think what I would like to say is that it's business as usual, but you have seen our history. That we do a pretty good job of assessing our network consolidating where it makes sense, and then, looking to new markets where we can have growth potential. So, we will continue to do that.

David West

Analyst

Okay. All right. Great. Thanks very much.

Billy Beale

Analyst

Thanks David.

Bill Cimino

Analyst

And thanks, James and for everybody who dialed in today. We look forward to talking with you in January. Have a good day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.