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Q1 2022 Earnings Call· Thu, May 12, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, everyone and welcome to AvePoint's First Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. For opening remarks and introductions, I will now turn the call over to Marc Griffin, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Marc Griffin

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon and welcome to AvePoint's First Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. Today, we'll be discussing the results announced in our press release issued after the market closed. With me on the call this afternoon is Dr. TJ Jiang, Chief Executive Officer; and Jim Caci, Chief Financial Officer. TJ will begin with a brief review of the business results for the first quarter ended March 31, 2022. Jim will then review the financial results for the first quarter, followed by the company's outlook for the second quarter and full year 2022, then we will open up the call for questions. Please note that this call will include forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause the actual results to differ materially from management's expectations. We encourage you to review the safe harbor statements contained in our press release for a more complete description. All materials in the webcast is the sole property and copyright of AvePoint with all rights reserved. Please note this presentation describes certain non-GAAP measures, including non-GAAP operating income and non-GAAP operating margin which are not measures prepared in accordance with U.S. GAAP. The non-GAAP measures are presented in this presentation as we believe they provide investors with the means of evaluating and understanding how the company's management evaluates the company's operating performance. These non-GAAP measures should not be considered in isolation from as a substitute for or superior to financial measures prepared in accordance with U.S. GAAP. Listeners who do not have a copy of the quarter ended March 31, 2022, press release may obtain a copy by visiting the Investor Relations section of the company's website. With that, let me turn the call over to TJ.

Tianyi Jiang

Analyst

Thank you, Marc and thank you to everyone joining us on the call today. I'm very pleased to report that 2022 is off to a great start. We delivered a solid first quarter, highlighted by robust SaaS revenue growth and continued progress on our innovation road map. Total revenue for the first quarter was $50.3 million, ahead of our guidance. On strong SaaS revenue of $26.6 million which was up 45% from the same period 2021. We grew total ARR 30% year-over-year to $167.4 million. Our commitment to create innovative solutions to meet the evolving business needs of our customers over the past 20 years continues to set AvePoint apart. The first quarter was no different with many exciting enhancements to the AvePoint confidence platform which enables organizations to secure collaboration data, sustain connections between people and ensure business continuity. With 66% of enterprise IT spending shifting to cloud technologies in 2025 and more than half of businesses identifying optimization of their use of cloud as a top priority, our resilience suite ensures business continuity and compliance with data retention and other regulatory guidelines. This is why we were able to successfully onboard a global leader in application testing and quality engineering services to protect the data in its entire Microsoft 365 environment as well as extend that protection to a Salesforce CRM data and an HR application, leveraging the Salesforce platform. The global scale of our confidence platform with 14 deployments across data centers around the world ensures the firm can also satisfy its local data sovereignty requirements. Our Fidelity suite preserves data integrity as organizations transform from one system to the next, capturing data for compliance or integrating SaaS applications to streamline the way users work. Our control suite enables IT to deliver central services at scale with…

Jim Caci

Analyst

Thank you, TJ and good afternoon, everyone. As I review our first quarter results today, please note that I'll be referring to non-GAAP metrics, unless otherwise noted. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financials is included in today's earnings release which is also available on our website. Total revenues for the first quarter ended March 31, 2022, were $50.3 million, up 30% year-over-year. Within total revenue, SaaS revenue came in at $26.6 million, up 45% year-over-year and constituting 53% of total revenue compared to 47% of total revenue last year. Term license revenue came in at $10.2 million, up 17% year-over-year and constituting 20% of total revenue compared to 22% of total revenue last year. The uptick in term license is due to shifting business continuity requirements as a result of the dynamics in the global market. Some of those drivers include data sovereignty, disaster recovery and regional redundancy. As of the quarter end, we had total ARR of $167.4 million, representing growth of 30% from a year ago. Our core ARR ended the quarter at $156.4 million, up 26% year-over-year. We had record growth in our SMB ARR with a $1.6 million increase in the quarter. SMB ARR now totals $11 million, representing 100% year-over-year growth rate and 7% of our total ARR, up from 4% a year ago. As customers continue their cloud transformation and expand their SaaS operations, our average core ARR per account continues to grow as well. At quarter end, the average core ARR per account was approximately 38,500 which represents an increase of 11% year-over-year. This growth was driven by 358 customers with ARR of over $100,000, up 33% from the prior year. Our core ARR dollar-based net retention rate for the quarter was 108%, a slight decrease year-over-year. This was primarily due to…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

Jim Caci

Analyst

Operator, before we begin questions, our Investor Relations team pointed out that I misspoke regarding our cash flow, so I wanted to clarify that before we take questions. Our cash used in operations for the quarter was $6.1 million and our free cash flow for the quarter which includes CapEx, was negative $7.1 million. We can now go to the questions.

Operator

Operator

Our first question is from the line of Derrick Wood with Cowen & Company.

Andrew Sherman

Analyst

Great. It's Andrew on for Derrick. I'll start maybe with Jim on the shape of net new ARR over the course of the year to get to your full year guidance implies an acceleration in the back half. Is that just the hunter-farmer model kind of kicking in? Or anything else to think about on the net new ARR through the year?

Jim Caci

Analyst

Yes, great question and good to talk to you again. So the short answer is yes. We definitely we'll see the benefit of that model kicking in. So that's one. And then two, our business is still seasonal in nature. So the second half of the year is always much stronger for us than the first half. So I think it's the combination of those two components.

Andrew Sherman

Analyst

Okay. And TJ, maybe just walk us through like how far of the way through you are through this hunter farmer model transition you are and kind of what type of work left there is to do or anything to think about as we work through that?

Tianyi Jiang

Analyst

Yes. So it's a pretty big change to have the focus of just farmers with a farming patch with also dedicated ARR upsell quotas, so there are a lot of account assignment that happened. This occurred end of Q4 and beginning of Q1. So we're through it now. So all the account executives have their patch of talent and businesses to focus and go after. So yes, we're looking forward to a good year.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is from the line of Brian Essex with Goldman Sachs.

Brian Essex

Analyst

Can you hear me okay? It sounds like you cut out a little bit.

Tianyi Jiang

Analyst

Yes, you're good.

Brian Essex

Analyst

Great. Yes, I guess I was wondering if we could talk a little bit about cash flow, what the outlook is throughout the rest of the year. Is that going to be relatively seasonal as well and kind of how to think about modeling that out over the next 12 months or so?

Jim Caci

Analyst

Yes. No, good question. So short answer is yes. Similar to how we think about our revenue, cash flow follows a similar trend where our first two quarters of the year, we're definitely consuming cash. And then generally, the second two quarters of the year, we will be producing cash. And again, we're forecasting to be free cash flow positive for the full year. So the way I would look at that is, again, we're expecting negative for Q2 and then positive Q3 important.

Brian Essex

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And then maybe if I could hit net dollar retention rate, I understand the comments on cross-sell, upsell. What did churn look like in there? Is that a part of it? And do you think that -- I mean should we anticipate a meaningful recovery in net dollar retention rate now that you kind of like vetted out the hunter-farmer model.

Jim Caci

Analyst

Yes. So maybe two thoughts, right? One is on the gross retention or the gross churn, we haven't been publishing those numbers yet but we are seeing steady improvement on the gross retention. So I think there's a positive trend there. So that's good. And then, on your second point, in terms of NRR, I mean we firmly believe that the shift in this model that, again, started in Q4 of switching to the hunter-farmer the whole, the real driver for that was seeing that as a very positive impact on NRR. So again, we expect to see improvements on that the rest of the year.

Brian Essex

Analyst

Got it. Maybe I can sneak one last one in, maybe for TJ, are you starting to see any kind of focus on the backup aspect of the business, particularly with elevated ransomware in the market? And is there may be an enterprise focus, perhaps particularly on the SMB side with regard to kind of looking to your platform for a greater reliance on backup?

Tianyi Jiang

Analyst

Yes, that's absolutely right, Brian. We are really benefiting from the platform play of business data, security and governance, so ransomware attack, ransomware detection and also for the SMB customers, especially MSPs, we're offering ransomware warranty. So it's exactly what the market is asking for and need and security bend. It's definitely a natural expansion and extension of our existing customers who have back up today.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our next question is from the line of Kirk Materne with Evercore ISI.

Kirk Materne

Analyst

TJ, I wonder if you could just talk a little bit more about the small business momentum you've been seeing? And I guess, the stability or trends behind that, how comfortable you are with trends, just given what's going on from a macro perspective, I think people are a little bit nervous about smaller businesses potentially starting to run into more budget constraints, things like that? So you just talk about maybe your progress and then just what gives you comfort that, that should be able to continue through the year?

Tianyi Jiang

Analyst

Thank you, Kirk. Yes, small business is the fastest-growing segment for us in the three digits. We are forecasting that should be 10% of our ARR for the year. It's really growing fast. And we have a definition for 1,000 employees or less companies being small business. So that's pretty generous definition. So in that regard, there is a very, very big market. In fact, we look at Microsoft's total M365 ecosystem that segment, that's about 50% of their market. So for us, we are growth. It's a great field for us. We're now treating managed service providers, MSP as a vertical to tackle. So we're adding a lot more resources to that to continue that growth trend.

Kirk Materne

Analyst

That's helpful. And then obviously, Microsoft started pushing through a price increase on Office 365 in March. I was wondering does that have any bearing on your business at all in terms of as people sort of reevaluate the bundle that they're getting for Microsoft and what might be in it, what might not be in it? I guess, does it have really any bearing on your business or trends from a bookings perspective?

Tianyi Jiang

Analyst

Overall, there's inflationary pressure across the market, you see various platform providers increasing prices across storage, across compute. So for that, it's really our value-add for our customers to maximize their investment on Microsoft Cloud and now extend to Google as Salesforce. So we actually see a benefit from that as well. So it's only helpful for us to continue to provide that value add, so to help our customers and partners to maximize their investment.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is from the line of Jason Ader with William Blair.

Jason Ader

Analyst

Just first question on the macro environment. TJ, did you specifically address whether you're seeing any impact globally? I didn't catch that, you might have said in your prepared remarks but any update on kind of early signs of cracks or kind of leading indicators that might suggest things are slowing down? And then also from you, Jim, any impact from currency in the quarter or in the guidance.

Tianyi Jiang

Analyst

I'll take the first one and Jim will talk about the FX. From our perspective, the global climate and conflicts in Europe, it doesn't impact us directly because we don't have any businesses in Eastern Europe or Ukraine or Russia. But what we are seeing, though is Western European customers, we have very large German customers, for example, looking to expand their hybrid deployment scenarios for business continuity purposes. Historically, we see multi-cloud as a strategy for that. But now we see -- because data sovereignty because of regional resiliency concerns, there are a lot more of that ask. So this you see some term license up creep as well. So for us, we're very well situated all type of deployment scenarios, whether it's on-prem, private data centers or hybrid or multi-cloud. So we just see that there is the trend for that focus around business continuity and contingency planning. So it's -- actually for us, it's something that we lean into, especially because we're physically in 17 different countries. We can excel into that offering some of the "hyper localization offerings." So on FX, Jim?

Jim Caci

Analyst

Yes. So Jason, thanks for the question. So thinking about FX, we had factored in really FX into our planning process. And then what we saw in really of the almost unanticipated FX was only about 0.5 point in terms of impact on revenue. So not really material compared to what we had kind of baked into the plan.

Jason Ader

Analyst

Great. And then for you, TJ which specific SKUs are you seeing the most momentum from now?

Tianyi Jiang

Analyst

We continue to see our backup as a service, the resiliency skew. As we stated last quarter, the quarter-to-quarter mix is about 50% of the mix now uplift from about 1/3 of the mix. So that's definitely a big uplift. The second one is in Q1 specifically, we continue to see a tremendous amount of migration. So that's something that we see that people are continuing to go digital transformation into different environments. We don't think migration will ever end, honestly, from moving on-prem to cloud or even divestiture merger acquisitions. That will be a continued use cases there.

Jason Ader

Analyst

All right. Last one for me, just for you, Jim. Any update on cross-sell metrics? I know in the past, you talked about a number of customers with more than one product, more than two products, more than three products. Any updated metrics there would be helpful.

Jim Caci

Analyst

Yes. We have gone into detail on that publishing it. It is something I think I mentioned in Q4 that we're looking to gather enough information there and report on that repeatedly. But as of right now, we're not providing any guidance along those lines. Thanks, Jason.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is from the line of Nehal Chokshi with Northland Capital Markets.

Nehal Chokshi

Analyst

Yes. Can you just double click here on the, why the reorganization of the sales organization has resulted in a step back in the March Q showing 12-month dollar-based net revenue retention rate?

Jim Caci

Analyst

Yes, I think when we were talking about it earlier, I think just it's the normal kind of function of having some disrupt in the organization as you look at realigning people and having them focus on things they weren't previously focused on. I think that naturally creates a little change and it took a little while for that change to really be absorbed and for people to embrace it and ultimately move forward with it. So again, I think we anticipated some of that change. And again, hopefully, we're past most of it in Q1. And again, we think this is the right strategy to move forward and have people focused and embrace those individual roles. But in the meantime, going through that transition, like any other transition has some challenges with it and this was no different for us but we believe we're through it now.

Nehal Chokshi

Analyst

Understood. And just to be clear, that transition began sometime during the December quarter when exactly within the December quarter, did that transition begin?

Tianyi Jiang

Analyst

It was end of Q4. So we mentioned earlier, the gross retention improved. So what we're seeing is actually the gross retention renewal improved and what was this adjustment where people are literally reassigning new accounts to their names or taking away new accounts, their names, create some distraction in upsell side of it. That's where you see the NRR change. So we started that process end of in Q4. That also goes along with everyone's comp plan. Think about every salesperson will have a different number in their comp plan depending on the patch, how many accounts they now cover. Some reps could be going from 70 accounts down to 30 accounts and each patch will have their own natural ARR amount and then thereby we derive a upsell quota for that rep. So, every rep actually has different size quarters, depends on the accounts and patch they own. So there's a lot of accounts being reassigned and that introduces adjustment periods.

Nehal Chokshi

Analyst

I see, okay. And did I hear you correctly saying that you have completed your first acquisition?

Tianyi Jiang

Analyst

That is correct. We completed first tuck-in acquisition. The details are asking in our 10-K. It's in the education vertical sector. It's a domain expert in the training management space because we have integrated industry's only -- integrated learning management, training management and now training management solution that's fully integrated with Microsoft 365 and Teams to offer to higher education as well as commercial.

Nehal Chokshi

Analyst

I see. I'm sorry. I didn't capture that from the 10-K. Could you just briefly review the financial details of the acquisition then?

Jim Caci

Analyst

Sure. So essentially, it's a, like TJ said, it was an acquisition we completed at the end of February. It was in actually Singapore, where we made the acquisition. The transaction had a value of SGD10 million equivalent of about a little less than US$8 million, had a couple of components to it. But again, end of February had very little impact on our revenue for the quarter.

Nehal Chokshi

Analyst

Got it. Okay, very good. And then why not deploy your repurchase faster than what you did?

Jim Caci

Analyst

So it's a great question. What we decided to do when we first implemented that plan was we set a target. We set a systematic process where we were purchasing a fixed amount with our advisers where we set up a recurring purchase every week. And we kind of said it and said we're not going to touch it for the first six to seven weeks of the program to see what happens. So we kind of, this is the first time we're doing a repurchase program. And so we wanted to kind of see how it goes. And again, we -- with the help of advisers we set a specific number and we set a systematic approach and we've just executed upon that. That is something we are revisiting to see if we want to continue at the same level or as you suggested either increase or decrease but that's something we're currently looking at now.

Operator

Operator

And we do have a follow-up question from the line of Brian Essex with Goldman Sachs.

Brian Essex

Analyst

Just a real quick housekeeping question. just noticed the purchase of investments on the cash flow statement about $180 million. Maybe just touch on that and give us a little clarity in terms of what's going on there.

Jim Caci

Analyst

Sure. This just has to do with -- we're purchasing T-bills essentially. So this quarter, we actually went out and bought T-bills that were extended beyond three months. And so just the accounting rules is you got to classify them as short-term investments as opposed to cash. And so it's just a technical accounting thing but essentially, we're still viewing it as cash and cash equivalents, so...

Operator

Operator

And we have no further questions in the queue. I will now turn the call back over to TJ Jiang for closing remarks.

Tianyi Jiang

Analyst

Well, thank you, everyone, for your questions and your time today. We continue to be very enthusiastic about the global growth potential for both the market and at AvePoint. With a powerful brand, we continue to increase our access to help organization worldwide collaborate with confidence at scale. We recently announced the appointment of our newest member of our Board of Directors, Janet Schijns. Her experience leading channel programs and disruptive go-to-market strategies will provide a unique perspective as we continue to scale our global channel, one of our key growth vectors. It's clear that we're operating in a highly dynamic market right now, one where it is important to continue to grow while being prudent with expenditures. Throughout our company's 20-year history, we have proven our ability to do just that and I'm confident that we'll continue to do so. We'll continue to achieve positive cash flow on an annual basis which will enable us to evolve our product offerings, continue our expansion and stay on the bleeding edge of innovation, go-to-market strategy positions us well for the new logo acquisitions, a growing partner ecosystem and the ongoing expansion of existing customers to whom we deliver exceptional service today and in the process, create value for our shareholders, partners and customers. Lastly, I want to thank our shareholders for your recent vote of confidence at our Annual Shareholder Meeting to renew my appointment, to the Board of Directors and to approve our senior executive compensation. With nearly 70% of all shares voted and that over 99% in affirmative, we know it is a privilege to have shareholders trust and faith in our ability to navigate the current market conditions, focus on consistent execution and ultimately deliver long-term shareholder value. With that, thank you.

Operator

Operator

That does conclude your conference call for today. We thank you for your participation and ask that you please disconnect your lines. Thank you and have a great day.