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AXT, Inc. (AXTI)

Q1 2015 Earnings Call· Sat, May 2, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon everyone and welcome to AXT's First Quarter 2015 Financial Conference Call. Leading the call today is Dr. Morris Young, Chief Executive Officer and Gary Fischer, Chief Financial Officer. My name is Viki and I will be your coordinator today. Today's call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Leslie Green, Investor Relations for AXT. Please go ahead.

Leslie Green

Management

Thank you, Viki. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that during the course of this conference call, including comments made in response to your questions, we will provide projections or make other forward-looking statements regarding, among other things, the future financial performance of the company and our ability to control costs and improve efficiency, increase orders in succeeding quarters, improve our competitive position as the market improves, as well as the other market conditions and trends. We wish to caution you that such statements deal with future events and are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual events or results to differ materially. These uncertainties and risks include but are not limited to overall conditions in the market in which the company competes, global financial conditions and uncertainties, market acceptance and demand for the company's products, and the impact of delays by our customers on the timing of sales and products. In addition to factors that may be discussed in this call, we refer you to the company's periodic reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and available online by link from our website for additional information on risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. This conference call will be available on our website at axt.com through April 30, 2016. Also before we begin, I want to note that shortly following the close of market today, we issued a press release reporting financial results for the first quarter of 2015. The information is available on the Investor Relations portion of our website at axt.com. I would now like to turn the call over to Gary Fischer for a review of the first quarter results. Gary?

Gary Fischer

Management

Thank you, Leslie, and good afternoon. Revenue for the first quarter of 2015 was $20.1 million compared with $19.6 million in the fourth quarter of 2014. In the first quarter of 2015, revenue from North America was 17%, Asia Pacific was 58% and Europe was about 25% of total revenue. No customer generated more than 10% of revenue during the first quarter and the top five customers generated approximately 35% of total revenue. As a side note, last year in Q1 2014, the top five customers generated approximately 39% of total revenue. So our trend line regarding customer concentration illustrates success in diversity of both products and customers. Gross margin in the first quarter was 23.7% compared with 25.4% of revenue for the fourth quarter of 2014. Total operating expenses in the first quarter were $6.5 million compared with $5.6 million in the prior quarter. Of our total operating expenses, SG&A expenses were $5.3 million compared with $4.3 million for the fourth quarter of 2014. As we had guided to you in our last earnings call, we incurred approximately $1.2 million in additional legal and professional expenses in Q1 as a result of the audit committee review, which was completed in February. In Q4, we had $600,000 of the same legal and professional expenses for this matter. This matter has been closed and we do not expect any further expenses relating to it in future quarters. Total stock compensation expense was $274,000 for the first quarter 2015, of which $5,000 was included in cost of sales, $225,000 in SG&A and, $44,000 in R&D. Operating loss for the first quarter of 2015 was $1.7 million compared with $592,000 loss in the fourth quarter of 2014. If you factor out the $1.2 million for legal and professional expenses, our operating loss in…

Morris Young

Management

Thank you, Gary. As a result of major changes in our business over the last two years, the revenue composition of AXT looks very different today than they did three years ago. Now more equally spread among our five product groups, including semi-insulating and semi-conducting gallium arsenide substrates, indium phosphide substrates, germanium substrates and our raw material joint ventures. Each diversity has helped AXT mitigate some of the challenges we have experienced and provides exciting opportunities in a number of emerging applications for our products. And this is especially evident in indium phosphide. For the first time in AXT’s history, indium phosphide sales in Q1 now outpaced semi-insulating and semi-conducting gallium arsenide and germanium substrates, showing healthy growth from the prior quarter. As many of you are aware, we have been investing in indium phosphide substrate for some time. During 2014, we began to see real world in both new and existing applications, including fiber optic lasers, detectors, solar applications and data center connectivity. For example, fiber-to-home network requirement actively occurring across the Asia-Pacific region, Singapore and Taiwan and nearly in completion of nationwide fiber networks, while network deployment is in the earlier stage in countries such as Australia, New Zealand and China. In China alone, plan is to have 200 million homes connected by the end of 2015. Compared to gallium arsenide, indium phosphide has greater barrier to entry limiting the competitive landscape, notably indium phosphide must be manufactured and at high pressure conditions and is a more difficult compound for crucible. Further, it is the usual property that enables unique performance characteristics; also create challenges in terms of meeting the stringent requirement for the application in which it is used. We at AXT, have worked collaboratively with our customers to overcome these challenges and have developed a robust…

Gary Fischer

Management

Thank you Morris. Looking to the second quarter, we are expecting revenues to trend up, and our range is $20.5 million to $21.5 million. We are expecting the bottom line to be in the range of breakeven to a loss of $0.01, using 32.5 million diluted common shares outstanding. This concludes our prepared comments, but Morris and I would be glad to answer any questions that you might have. Operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question from Edwin Mok with Needham & Company.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi guys, this is Arthur [ph] filling in for Edwin. I had a quick question about your cost structure, I know you said you had the lowered the cost structure, could you provide some more color on sort of the margins going forward, if we can expect this cost structure to stay steady or maybe you continue to have improvements?

Gary Fischer

Management

Well, Arthur, I think we -- near term, we're a bit conservative, I think the margins will be in the maybe you know low 20s. As the volume grows that helps our margin and other variable is the product mix. We get a higher profit margin, for example, on indium phosphide than we do on germanium. So, there is enough variables that we’re not sure we can confidently give guidance pass Q2. We feel like there is some positive developments and tailwinds. So, we’re encouraged, but it’s too soon to be specific.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, that’s helpful.

Morris Young

Management

Yeah. I think I can chime in although I am not a financial guy, but I think we did heavily – we had our forced reduction in Q1 of last year. I think we’ll lower our costs quite a bit and we are also making our efficiency higher -- yield higher. So, I don’t know if you recall, last year, our breakeven point we said was $23 million of revenue and around 25% gross margin, okay. Now, I think if you look at our operating model, I think we probably can breakeven somewhere around $21 million to $21.5 million revenue and so that I think is an efficiency improvement and cost reduction effort.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Excellent, great to know. So then, my second question is also about kind of your gross margins. I know you have alluded to the fact that it was 24.7% last quarter and now it’s dropped to 23.6% [ph]. Can you try some more color on maybe some guidance or some sort of trend you see in the near quarters?

Gary Fischer

Management

Probably can’t say much more than we just did. We think it’s going to be in the low 20s again in the -- in Q2. We think there are some market developments that could give us tailwind in the second half but it’s too soon to be sure. We’re continuing to work on cost efficiencies, yield efficiencies, productivity tools. So, there is actions being taken, but we don’t want to get your expectations up prematurely. So, we have to work at it and do our jobs.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

All right, thank you. And then my next question is about sort of the different lines of business that you have. Obviously, the SI Gas and the SC Gas, can you give some more information on sort of the directional change that you might expect going forward? I know you mentioned that gases are going to stay steady but and do a bit more about the raw materials and also the germanium substrates?

Morris Young

Management

I think specifically for the next quarter, Gary, we do expect from our booking or we do expect germanium to be trending up next quarter.

Gary Fischer

Management

Modestly, yes.

Morris Young

Management

Modestly. I think it’s going to trend up modestly.

Gary Fischer

Management

LED, which is the semiconducting, that’s just a tough market. We tend to try and play on the high end of the market and we haven’t sort of put on the boxing gloves that do get out in the low end and we do think -- I mean, that’s about the raw materials. The raw material business is still good. We’ve got a good network of companies and they sell some to us and some to the open market, but the open market demand is okay, it’s good.

Morris Young

Management

It is good. However, there is no sign of price increase as of yet. So, although our revenue is growing, so, you can say the capacity -- we’re selling out everything we can make, but because of the pricing pressure, our revenues are just as it is.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thanks. And my last question is about indium phosphide. Could you help me kind of understand some of the drivers behind the growth that you’ve experienced in this segment?

Morris Young

Management

Well, first of all, our customer usually don’t tell us what they’re using it for. Some of them they do talk to us, for instance, [indiscernible]. They do talk to us about it and we do get a lot of market research. For instance, we know the fiber-to-the-home is a big project for China, seven year, seven and a half year development. So, we think that’s a big driver and data center is definitely hot, but I think it’s still early its development. So, I think that the usual indium phosphide are the lasers, the detectors.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, thanks. That’s very helpful. Operator [Operator Instructions] We’ll go next to Jorge Rivas with Craig-Hallum Capital Group.

Jorge Rivas

Analyst

Hello, guys, this is Jorge sitting in for Richard. Thanks for taking my question. So, I’ll start with indium phosphide first. So, it seems like maybe now for indium phosphide in the optical industry, it could be a significant driver for your business, given that there are more and more data centers coming through for underworld. So, I’m wondering if you can share some of the dynamics in the market. I believe you have said it in the past that you’re one of only three players. So, I’m wondering if you can share with us what’s your -- just a general sense of market share and also about customer concentration. A - Morris Young Yeah, that’s a good question. Indium phosphide is a -- first of all, I want to say, I always believe the indium phosphide. I mean, it’s a wonderful material although it’s very difficult to work with. I don’t want to get too technical about it because it is a difficult material to work with, but there is really no market study -- believable market study, which shows how big the market size is and who is the major player. I know who the major competitors are. I mean, there are two Japanese competitors other than us, no more and how big they are, because I think we’re growing so fast, it’s really difficult to say where we are. We are certainly -- I believe we’re growing faster than the market and we certainly hear a lot of good things from our customer comments our good quality as well as -- now remember, we come back to the VGF advantage again. In gallium arsenide, we saw a loss at advantage because everybody reverted back to VGF. So we don't have product differentiation anymore later in the marketplace, but indium phosphide we still do. And so I think we are cautiously optimistic. We are doing the best we can. We also had, by the way, a very good development team who work with our customers and their very stringent specification requirement should win the final customer applications. So I think we are very excited about this business opportunity.

Gary Fischer

Management

Jorge, this is Gary. I think we hope to see some market studies. I think because it's a market that's somewhat in its infancy, there is just not a lot of hard data about market size. If we have it, we'd be glad to share. So we can only share anecdotally and talk about our customer experience and the feedback we get, but it isn't -- the compound that Morris has been fascinated by for a long time and he has always believed that there is a future in it and we are seeing some evidence of that now.

Jorge Rivas

Analyst

Yeah, it's definitely a great market and you guys seem to be very well positioned for that but how about customer concentration? How would you characterize your customer base? Would you say you have 1,000 customers and then is there any type of concentration risk there?

Morris Young

Management

Well, we are sitting here with large customers, absolutely. But also the diversification of customer base is fairly sizable too. I mean, how would you estimate the number of customers we have in indium phosphide? Including universities, it could be in the 50s.

Gary Fischer

Management

Yes. You mean indium phosphide or do you mean the total customers for the products?

Jorge Rivas

Analyst

For indium phosphide.

Gary Fischer

Management

But what is he asking about?

Morris Young

Management

He ask it for indium phosphide.

Jorge Rivas

Analyst

Yeah, indium phosphide.

Morris Young

Management

I think we have a few very large customers, but we also have many, many diverse customer base, that's for sure. But also because these – again, this market is developing very fast. So we have quite a few irons in the fire which we hope to win later on this year that can further diversify our customer base. And the large customer I think is going to poise to grow us well.

Gary Fischer

Management

Yeah. One of the trends is that, if you go back in time, a lot of the customers were universities and then material was being used for research. So now there are more companies in commercial production is the material, which would be -- that's a good sign.

Jorge Rivas

Analyst

Thank you. That's very helpful. And then we frequently ask this question, it's about gallium arsenide pricing. Wondering if you can give us a general sense of the pricing environment. I read your press release, you stated that gallium arsenide is stabilizing. So I wonder if this is more of a factor of demand or is it a supply basis, it's also kind of being more balanced now and seeing some improvement there. Wondering if you can share your view on that and also what you think it’s – what rate of improvements in the near future and I think a challenging area for you in the past couple of years, but it would be a driver of your business, I am sure.

Morris Young

Management

First of all, let me clarify. I think you mean the wireless arena, right?

Jorge Rivas

Analyst

No, actually on the gallium arsenide raw material.

Morris Young

Management

Gallium raw material.

Jorge Rivas

Analyst

I'm sorry, gallium pricing. Yeah.

Morris Young

Management

Gallium pricing, yeah, last year -- right now it's close to $200 a kilogram. I mean I think beginning of the year it was still I believe around $240. So it dropped down a clip [ph], but again I keep on saying, it's probably dropped to the bottom now. But I think the demand surprisingly is fairly strong. We cover some on the margin side, because I think we are -- our joint venture partner, they are improving their efficiency. So I think it's a good equilibrium. There is a lot of demand for gallium. Their estimated annual usage for gallium now is more than 500 tons. And I remember --

Gary Fischer

Management

Per year.

Morris Young

Management

Per year. And I remember about four or five years ago with only 200 tons a year. So you can see, there is a lot of diverse applications for gallium, include gallium arsenide, gallium nitride, solar cell as well as strong magnet and petroleum refining catalysts et cetera, et cetera. So I think gallium is a rising material, but the pricing is low, hopefully steady.

Jorge Rivas

Analyst

Okay. And then one last question and I’m sorry if I missed this on your prepared remarks. But did you say that indium phosphide was your largest segment this quarter.

Morris Young

Management

In the substrate business, yes.

Jorge Rivas

Analyst

Okay, in substrate. Okay, alright, that's all from me guys. Thanks a lot.

Morris Young

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

It appears there are no further questions at this time. Dr. Morris Young, I would like to turn the conference back to you for any additional or closing remarks.

Morris Young

Management

Thank you for participating in our conference call. This quarter we will be presenting at the DA Davidson Conference in New York on May 27. As always, feel free to contact us, Gary Fischer and Leslie Green directly if you would like to meet with us. We look forward to speaking with you in the near future.

Operator

Operator

That does conclude today's conference. We thank you for your participation.