Vern Nagel
Analyst · Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open.
Sure. It's interesting and unfortunately to have precise data to answer your question, we don't have. But I have been to a number of industry events talking with distributors, contractors, different customer set. And in that dialogue with them and I will just pick distributors here for one second, they’ve said, we’ve been inundated at bringing in projects now and having to consume more and more of our floor space actually having to add space to house these projects that will be delivered over a more likely period of time. I believe that the move to 25%, while that may have created some pull forward, I think, you saw a lot of the pull forward kind of in that first half of the year. I think what you could actually see is projects on the 25% side potentially being delayed. And the truth of the matter is that for a lot of the product that was hit by the 25% tariff, that actually is on the more smaller, more stock flow type projects. Usually, larger projects that require more sophisticated type luminaire, we are manufacturing those types of products in our North American footprint and so we are able to through different types of sourcing so on and so forth, sell those luminaires without necessarily the pressure of -- the fulsome pressure of the tariffs. So I think, there you didn't see more pull forward of those types of things. And then on the stock flow side, I believe that folks are sitting back saying, well, how long is this going to stay. A lot of distributors, they already have enough inventory. They're not going to pull forward more when they're running out of space. So we did not see the same type of pull forward activity on the May increase, even though it was a significant increase. So it's just an interesting dynamic that's going on. It's -- and I wish, I could give you real statistics, but we just don't have them and lot of our distributor customers are struggling with what is actually happening in their business. Yes, they continue to be reasonably optimistic around their backlogs are healthy, they see some of these projects, but they too are concerned about larger projects. This is just simply taking long and I think that have more to do with steel, which fortunately has abated somewhat here. So we will see how that plays out frankly.