Good morning, and welcome to Acuity Brands Fiscal 2020 Second Quarter Financial Conference call. After today's presentation, there will be a formal question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Today's conference is being recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. Now I would like to introduce Mr. Pete Shannin, Vice President, Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Sir, you may begin.

Good morning. With me today to discuss our fiscal 2020 second quarter results are Neil Ashe, our President and Chief Executive Officer; Karen Holcom, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; and Ricky Reece, our Executive Vice President and President of Acuity Brands Lighting. We are webcasting today's conference call at acuitybrands.com. During this call, we will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations to comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in our second quarter press release and 10-Q SEC filing. I would like to remind everyone that during this call, we may make projections or forward-looking statements regarding future events or future financial performance of the company. Such statements involve risks and uncertainties such that actual results may differ materially. Further, forward-looking statements speak only as of the date that they are made, and we undertake no obligation to update publicly any of these statements in light of new information or future events. Please refer to our most recent 10-K and 10-Q SEC filings and today's press release, which identify important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in our projections or forward-looking statements. Now let me turn this call over to Neil Ashe.

Thanks Pete. Good morning, everyone. I am pleased to be with you today to talk about Acuity. Obviously, we all wish the global contexts were different right now. We are embarking on the next generation of Acuity. As we start on that journey, we are dealing with the shocks caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. As we manage through the current situation, and begin to change our company for the future, we do so with a strong financial footing, with a market leading position in our core business, and with a strong team to navigate the company through this. Given that we are new together, I want to outline what we will cover today. First, I will give you some perspective on our second quarter performance and then Karen will go into more detail about the financials. Then I will cover how we're prepared for it and how we are handling the shocks related to COVID-19. I will provide you with some of my initial observations of the company, talk to you about digital transformation and give an outline of who I think Acuity is and can become. For consistency, we will continue to discuss the business and present metrics that you have traditionally seen for at the least the remainder of this fiscal year. Following our opening comments, Ricky Reese will join us for the Q&A period. Our second quarter performance was a mixed bag of continuing trends with several signs of improvement. After a very weak December the business picked up in January and February and we began to see real traction specifically in our independent sales network channel which represents over two thirds of our sales and was up over 4% for the quarter inclusive of TLG. Some of the business and product highlights included success with our contractor select products. Sales grew at 30% this quarter. We successfully launched Modulus technology. Modulus is a proprietary and innovative low voltage distributed power and control system for LED luminaires enabling design flexibility, greater connectivity options and lower installation costs. And the integration of TLG is progressing as expected and is accretive to our performance. Those were balanced by some of the same dynamics you have heard from Acuity in the past. We continue to face year-over-year revenue declines in retail as a result of our changed home center strategy and in corporate accounts as a result of the timing of re-light projects at several large retailers. We expect these dynamics to continue. We also saw revenue declines in direct sales of industry and infrastructure accounts primarily due to large projects in the prior year that did not repeat. Despite our revenue performance, we were able to expand gross margins year-over-year and to generate strong cash flow, both of which demonstrate the adaptability and durability of our core lighting business. With that, I'll turn it over to Karen for more details on the financials. Karen?

Thank you, Neil, and good morning everyone. I know many of you have already seen our results, but I would like to make a few comments on the key highlights for the second quarter of 2020. Net sales for the second quarter were $824 million, a decrease of 3.5% compared with the year ago period. Overall net sales volume declined approximately 7% while the price mix of products sold was favorable this quarter by approximately 1%. We estimate price mix was impacted by a favorable shift in channel mix partially offset by an unfavorable mix of products sold. The positive change in sales channel mix was mostly influenced by the decline in net sales of lower margin products sold primarily through the retail channel, partially offset by products substitutions to lower-priced alternatives primarily for more basic featured lesser featured LED luminaires sold in certain channels as well as declines in shipments for larger commercial projects, a historical strength of the company. Acquisitions added about 3% to our growth. In addition, we believe the demand in the second quarter for private nonresidential construction in general, and more specifically lighting, was down in the low single digit year-over-year percentage range. We believe these declines were due in part because of the continued concerns of the global trade and economic issues. We do not believe that the COVID-19 pandemic had a significant impact on our second quarter results. From a channel perspective, there were a few key areas of significance. First, net sales through our independent sales network which makes up approximately 72% of our total net sales increased 4% over the prior year. Our performance compared with the year ago period was impacted by the contribution from acquisitions, market share gains in certain Lighting and Control categories and growth in our Contractor…

Thanks, Karen. Obviously the effects of the coronavirus pandemic have turned the world on its head. I'll spend a few minutes updating you on what has happened and what we have been doing about it. I'll begin by saying how pleased I am with the company's resilience, beginning with the supply shocks when China went on lockdown. As China began to shutdown we were able to use our preferred position in the industry to gather additional supply. Other than some specific finished goods and imported products, we so far have been able to largely buffer our customers from the effects of the supply shocks. As companies are forced to reevaluate their supply chains, we can report that our diversified supply chain has performed well. As the potential worldwide ramifications started to become clear, we began to work to prepare our people, facilities, and operations for what would come next. Our priorities were and are to help in the wellbeing of our people while addressing both the risks and opportunities that the situation presents. Beginning in late January, we started making changes in our manufacturing and distribution facilities to ensure the health of our associates and the continued operation of our facilities. We reengineered the people flow in our buildings to create more social distance and to limit the number of people that any one person could come in contact with. We also changed the sanitation procedures to proactively eradicate as many contaminants as possible. At the same time, we have been working with various jurisdictions to respond in their directives to help slow the spread of the disease. In almost all instances we have been an essential business and remain open. However, we have scaled back some less essential parts of our business to spread out our operations and to…

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Ryan Merkel with William Blair. Your line is now open.

Hey, thanks, good morning. So first off Neil, you mentioned opportunities that COVID presents. So I'm curious where in your business do you see revenue opportunity and where do you see the biggest challenges?

Thanks Ryan. As I said, we're trying to deal with both the challenges and the opportunities, so the challenges are obvious, are to scale the business appropriately. We feel like we entered this period with development momentum around our product portfolio in the core lighting business and we have the opportunity to continue that process as we emerge from this. So the combination of the strength of our supply chain as we've been able to manage and have consistent supply through this process as well as some of the new products portfolio that we've been rolling out give us momentum for whenever we emerge from this and we think those are real opportunities. We also think there are opportunities to do some of the hard work under the covers that we need to do to evolve the company. While we can't stop those and make those changes in months, we can get a little bit of a head start while we have folks that have more time on their hands than they would have otherwise.

Got it, okay. And then maybe just on the bigger challenges that you see, you know, I think the retail segment is a big market for you, are you seeing push outs and cancellations there, is that an area that we should expect to be pretty weak?

So on the retail side, obviously I've got a new set of eyes on the situation here and we're going to evaluate the retail side for the long term and for the short term. And so let me address the long-term question first. So, we're evaluating the customers that we reach with our products through the channel generally and try to get a better understanding of who exactly we are serving through that channel and how effective they feel like they're being served through that channel and so we'll go through that process. Specifically on the short-term, we've seen fairly consistent results so far, but we expect -- we expect the demand shock to flow through them as well. We just don't know exactly when that's going to happen.

Got it. Okay, I'll pass it on, thanks.

Thanks Ryan.

Our next question comes from Christopher Glynn with Oppenheimer. Your line is now open.

Thank you. Good morning. Neil, good to hear you on your first call. And you discussed improving the existing business and the adaptability. I'm just curious in your view, maybe this question is a little early, but to what extent might this entail a fundamental margin reset over time? And if so, what are your views on enacting such an adaptation quickly or slowly?

Thanks, Chris. It’s good to be with you. That's an obvious question that we're in the process of evaluating and I do think it's too early to call. I would take a step back though and say that one of the things that attracted me to this company was the strength of our business model and its adaptability. So as we think about kind of where we want to be two, three years from now, we obviously want our lighting business to be beating the market and we want it to be the most efficient company in the market. And the exact implications then on how we potentially restructure the income statement a little bit over time are still to be determined. We've been, I've been pleased with what I've seen so far about our ability to develop products, to engineer them to the appropriate margins to compete at the low, middle and high parts of the market. As an outsider, one of the first things I wanted to understand was how effective we were at competing at each one of those, at each one of those sections in the market. And I think our Contractor Select performance is demonstrating that. We can compete effectively in pretty much any product scenario. So then as we think about kind of what our long-term revenue makeup is going to be based on customers we target and products we offer, that will be the ultimate determinant of how we manage that income statement going forward. But our priorities will be to get to a position where we can be a market leader with more predictable revenue growth and appropriate returns on our capital.

Thanks, that's really helpful. And then just kind of a bookkeeping question for a follow-up. As adjusted SD&A was up about $20 million year-over-year and gets in maybe $5 million or $7 million from the acquisition. So in this demand environment where your revenues are tracked, can you just contextualize the growth in the SD&A?

Yes, I will tree top it and then if you want more specific answers, Karen can jump in here when I'm done. But the big picture that, you're right, most of that was the impact of the acquisitions. So both TLG and LocusLabs which rolled into this period and then some incentive compensation and other things that were natural as a result of the second quarter performance. As we’re thinking about kind of the changes that we're making as a result of the crisis, I want to emphasize kind of what I've said earlier, which is that we're going to, we're managing obviously the variable costs aggressively. And it's worth saying out loud that the variable costs don't manage themselves so that's hard work and we're on it. We're also taking a look at the distribution of our fixed costs so that we're positioned for where we want to be going forward. That work is ongoing. So we will continue to take a look at that through the period.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Brian Lee with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Hey guys, thanks for taking the questions. I guess kind of staying on the topic of the day, the recessionary environment we're entering here, I know it's still very fluid Neil, but as you think about framing the potential downside here for the market, if we take 2008 to 2009 as context, there was a roughly 20% decline in revenue for Acuity during that downturn. Why or why not would this downturn be less severe? And I guess that's in the context of just a lot of your end markets right now, commercial office, hospitality, seems like those are seeing the most shutdown and restrictive policies from stay at home mandate. So just wondering if you could frame for us a bit how this compares to the last downturn of 2008, 2009 when revenues were down 20%?

Yes, I'll start and then I'll kick it over to you Ricky since you were actually, you actually lived through the 2008, 2009 downturn and can provide kind of direct comparison. I'd say the way we're starting to - we've been modeling this Brian as we've been trying to think about it in terms of months and depth and decline. So, this has been sort of, it's almost like a series of rolling brownouts is the way I would describe that demand as we're seeing it across the market. Obviously, we have continued to write orders and to sell and a lot of what we've been supplying is for important things from field hospitals to government facilities to other infrastructure projects necessary to get through this. And so we've seen a range, we've modeled a range of outcomes by month that that are - could be really steep and but we don't know for how long. And the comparison to the 20% is, Ricky as I kick it over to you, really depends on how long the shock lasts and how we can come back out of that. And we don't have a crystal ball. Ricky, you want to pick it up from here because we're thinking about both on the top line and how that might evolve?

Yes, a couple of comments that I would add that I think are different this time, both for the type of the recession as well as where we are positioned. First on the type of recession, the depth may be as deep no one knows as what we saw in 2008, 2009, but most people believe it won't be as protracted. You know that big recession lasted for two years or so, 18 months, two years before you saw recovery. Most people, no one knows, but most people believe this one will maybe not V shaped but that we will see a rebound once this situation passes and hopefully we have opportunities to treat this and vaccines and so forth should we see a rebound. The other difference this time I believe is there is liquidity in the market, the last 2008, 2009 there was a pretty significant financial crisis, a lot of liquidity lost out of the market and so forth, both from what the Federal Government has done as well as just the state or the financial markets, I think there will be more liquidity this time. And the infrastructure, spending bills that are being put forward and passed seem to be more implementable and maybe more shovel ready than what we experienced in 2008, 2009. Time will tell, but I do think those are different. Looking at us as a company in 2008, 2009 80% of what we sold was in the new construction and clearly, new construction has the biggest potential for the impact in many of the sectors. This time only about half of our revenues would be into new construction where much more into renovation, much more into other aspects than just new construction. And those areas have the potential to rebound quicker than new construction might do. And then as Neil said, and just to comment somewhat on the questions earlier from Ryan, while retail stores and all maybe down, we are seeing good activity in distribution centers and logistics centers and so forth, as people now are buying more and more online being delivered. So we're seeing good opportunities and aspects of the business beyond the front facing retail stores. So still hard to know where it's going to play out. Not to suggest by any means we're not going to see a negative demand shock. We certainly think we will and we're planning aggressively for that. But I do see some stark differences and potentially positive from this one versus 2008, 2009 Brian. Great question.

All right, and I appreciate that. That super helpful context. Second one for me and I'll pass it on. Just on Tier 3, Tier 4 sales, I might have missed it, but did you break out what the percent of sales in the quarter was? Have you looked at growth in that category of products was year-on-year? And then I guess just as a segue into the question. Neil, I know a big part of why you joined the firm is around sort of digital transformation opportunity. And given your background, you obviously have a lot of experience with that. As you think about - beyond COVID-19 and sort of as we move into more of a normalized environment, whatever that may be coming out is do you see kind of at a high level need to sort of pivot the strategy around mentioned, given, what might be the fallout in the retail environment? I know a lot of the initial rollouts have been with that community of customers. But are you thinking about it any differently? I know we're only about three or four weeks into this pandemic, but it seems like the retail end markets would see the most amount of transformation potentially coming out of this and wondering how that might impact the strategy around your digitalized approach in Tier 3 and Tier 4 specifically?

Yes, Brian, I'll chew on some of that and then Karen or Ricky jump in here at the end with any specifics that you feel like I left out. So Brian, just to start where you finished, I think it's undeniable that this will be one of those events that after which nothing will be exactly like it was before. So we are - as we imagined kind of the strategy for the company going forward, we are mindful that we expect there to be pretty major changes coming out of this. To spend a second again on digital transformation, I think one of the things that people often do is think that digital transformation is somehow using technology in the organization which is why I went through the four things, but it's really what we do and how we do it. So, you picked up on the strategic part. As we think about kind of what services we can provide with our technology to other endpoints, both retail and otherwise, it really falls into two buckets which is we can either be in the business of moving market share or we can be in the business, our data can be in the business, of moving market share or delivering efficiencies for our partners. So as you think about kind of the technology that we've obviously rolled out at retail first, there are real opportunities to do both in those categories. And those needs will probably be more precedent after this than they were before this. The efficiencies necessary also will translate into other examples. Ricky mentioned the impact in industrial facilities and the opportunities that that presented. I was in our Des Plaines distribution and manufacturing facility and we run Atrius in that facility to manage all of the…

Just a couple of comments from me and then Karen, you may want to provide some of the specifics on the percentage of sales and growth at Tier 3, Tier 4. But I will say Tier 3, Tier 4 continues to be a focus. The solutions we're building that are much more than just the Atrius, where we do have the network, energy focus type solutions that we sell, the unified system is getting traction and so forth. So I'm actually pretty excited on the development in our side at Tier 3 and Tier 4. Obviously, the current situation may slow down sales of those products, but real going forward, launching some new solutions into that Tier 3, Tier 4 world, leveraging some of the technology we got with recent acquisitions, but also further integrating the businesses and the technologies that we have. Examples is a Single Room Control we will be launching here later this year, a very exciting product that I think will be well accepted as a way to very efficiently commission a Single Room Control that would be code compliant and provide the energy saving. So a lot of activity continues in Tier 3, Tier 4 and we see it as a good growth engine for us.

Yes and specifically, all Tier 3, Tier 4 sales are consistent with what we've reported before. They're about the 15% to 20% range of our revenues.

Okay, thanks so much, everyone.

Thanks Brian.

Our next question comes from Deepa Raghavan with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

Good morning all. Neil, hello, welcome and look forward to your leadership. A couple of questions from me. Can you talk about the order book performance towards March-end and how that compares versus February or even your negative 7% volume growth this quarter? What I'm more looking for is any sensitivities around how to think about upcoming quarter, just given the job sites being closed, could mean that even renovation projects are being impacted?

Yes, Ricky, I'll let you, all you pick that one up.

Absolutely. Yes, it's interesting. We were seeing probably all the different things you might expect. We are seeing some, some markets where the construction sites are shut down, so obviously, we're not shipping product into those. We have other parts where we are seeing projects being accelerated. So we are shipping ahead of when we might have otherwise as they're trying to get product in ahead of any disruption that may occur in the supply chain. We're seeing business as usual in some parts of the country, all to say that the impact in March has not been significant. Yes, we've seen a bit of a slowdown, but it hasn't been significant and I think the strong performance and I want to give my thank you to our supply chain team and our suppliers and vendors that we've been able to continue to provide that supply and continue on. We though certainly expect as more construction sites get slowed down and as this goes further that we will see a drop in demand, and as Neil mentioned earlier, are planning accordingly. Exactly when that hits and how deep it hits, no one knows, but we are aggressively managing our variable costs to be prepared for that as well as looking at the fixed costs. But as of now, yes we've seen a bit of a slowdown, but it's still doing reasonably well.

Got it. Thanks for the color. Neil, a question for you, probably a little early, but I'll ask it anyway. Can you provide us your thoughts on the need for near-term capital preservation versus your initial thoughts on long-term basis for capital deployment ideas on buybacks, M&A versus dividends?

Yes, sure. As I started to detail in our comment earlier Deepa, we are, we feel really good about the strength of our balance sheet entering this. And as we stress test the model for the company through this period, we are obviously building up from cash forward and as Karen mentioned, we have access to significant additional liquidity. So we feel like we're as well positioned kind of going into this as we possibly can be. As we think about kind of what we are going to do with cash in the intermediate and then longer-term first and kind of intermediate term, obviously we're going to, we need to mind our knitting and take care of ourselves first. So we need to make sure that we stay liquid, we stay as well positioned as we can. Then as we look forward, we're obviously going to be paying attention to how this impacts other companies and our business and the ones adjacent to us to understand kind of where they are. We'll be mindful of our own company's value performance. But our bias for the long-term is that we believe we have a highly efficient cash generating business which returns high returns on invested capital and we'd like to use that capital. We'd like to bias the use of that capital for growth, both through reinvestment in our business as well as to add adjacent businesses to great size of the company.

Got it. Thanks very much. I will pass it on.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Jeff Osborne with Cowen. Your line is now open.

Hey, good morning. Just two quick ones on my end. I was wondering, Neil, if you could update us on the situation in Mexico and your manufacturing facilities there? Any reduction in throughput with social distancing or how the facility in general is doing with some of the approaches that Mexico has taken with COVID-19?

Yes, sure Jeff. I've been down to Monterey twice now. We've started working on people flow and sanitation starting January 31. And they have implemented a number of different, a number of different changes there so far. Currently, all of our facilities are operating there. We are meeting demand. The backlog and the activations there have been consistent with the historical performance. Even as we've restructured the facilities, moved people apart, implemented everything from temperature checks to increasing the size of the manufacturing cells there, so that we can spread people apart while they're working to change in the people flow, so that cells don't come in contact with cells unnecessarily. So, for example, they all go eat at the same table at lunch every day with the same people. So there's no overlap. So far, we continue to operate there. As you alluded to in your question, the situation in Mexico is evolving and evolving pretty rapidly. So, some of the other states in Mexico have implemented more stringent, kind of stay at home or sheltering restrictions that has not yet happened in Monterey. We're working with the authorities there to obviously, we're an essential business because you can't build any of the things necessary to get through this without lights. So we're continuing to work through that. And we haven't -- we have a very constructive positive relationship with the authorities there and our associates to help make sure that we're doing everything that we can and we'll move forward. But as you alluded, the context there is fluid. It continues to change, but as of now we are operating -- we are meeting demand there in Mexico.

That's great to hear. And then my second question was around your approach to the monthly modeling and sensitivity, not looking for what the specific figures are, but certainly regional diversification is imperative to understand as it relates to an outsider understanding what your exposure is to the current situation, let's say in April and the first half of May. And so, can you just give us a sense of context either for the last fiscal year or more recently, what's your mixes as it relates to say the State of California and the Northeast in aggregate, is it similar to the GDP generation of America two-thirds or so? I'm just trying to get a sense of your regional diversification. Certainly states like Georgia have just implemented measures relative to California being the first. So I'm trying to understand as we think about in particular this upcoming quarter, what's your scope of reaches on a diversified geographic perspective?

Yes, I'll start and then I'll pass it to Ricky for any additional color. Our modeling has been to be dramatic and to be relatively universal. So as we've looked at it from a build the company up perspective, we're looking, we don't want, we have not allowed decision to be the enemy of insight as we've done our modeling. So we've assumed kind of the worst cases and worked our way back from there. As Ricky started and I'm about to hand off to him, but as Ricky alluded to before, our demand so far has not obviously been the worst case. And we've seen it kind of roll through different areas of the country. I'm talking about demand, not the demand shock. So, Ricky, do you want to address kind of how that's happened and how you think about our regional diversity?

Absolutely. We are, Jeff, pretty consistent as you suggest with the GDP around the country. I would say we may be a little and I stress a little I'm talking percentage points a little less and maybe the very large urban areas and a little more therefore in rural heartland type areas. Some of that goes back to the legacy of one of our brands, our largest brand Lithonia Lighting, which was the best value in lighting and does extremely well throughout the country and our focus has been probably disproportionate there versus some of the more architectural higher in, that would be bigger in urban areas, think of New York City, Chicago, and LA and so forth. Having said that, we've done a lot to build out our architectural capabilities and so forth. So we're pretty close to that. And yes, we are seeing, as you would expect in the geographies where they are having the most impact from this pandemic and are having construction sites shut down or shelter in place, and so forth, those the areas we are seeing a bit more of an impact than we are in other parts of the country.

That's helpful. I appreciate it. Thanks both.

Our next question comes from John Walsh with Crédit Suisse. Your line is now open.

Hi, good morning and welcome to Neil.

Thanks John.

I guess, maybe coming at the kind of the throughput and some of the variable costs question from a different angle, can you talk about how you're managing your inventory levels or how you kind of plan to manage them in the coming months? We think that, there'll be kind of a drawdown on inventory as the demand outlook is a little bit uncertain or any color you could provide there as we think about how it relates to free cash flow in the coming months as well?

Yes sure, that's a great question and one we've spent a fair amount of time on. So again, I'll start and then Ricky jump in if you feel like you want to add something, but because there are two things going on here, there is the impact of this rolls through first, the supply shock as Asia and China specifically started to shut down, and then there's the – some of which the impacts are continuing. And then there's the, how long did this last and how do we smooth our production and touch through this? So I've hit maybe three big buckets there. The first is on Asian finished goods inventory. We have been pretty consistent about maintaining that supply, so that we can make sure we're in the market with those products over the last month and we'll continue to do that over the next. The second is that we've been aggressive about making sure that we have access to necessary components for other products. So and where we might have been, we might have been easing back on inventory in preparation for this. We've made sure that we have supplies there, not in an irresponsible way, but in a way that - to make sure that we're available to the market and we come through this and after this as the supplier that the market could count on. And then finally, the production and management of our production efforts, we still manage as you know a pool-based system. So we are building to demand there. So we're modulating where the inventory levels as they come through that, but basically we are building to demand. Ricky, anything you want to add to that?

Yes, I would just stress that, yes we are pretty far in our lean journey, particularly in the supply chain. Virtually all of our inventory, both components and finished goods is on combine. So as Neil rightly explained very much a pool base. So as we see demand slowed down, it will automatically slow down the purchasing of components and finished goods to match that demand. Yes, we do a little bit of oversight on that as we know big projects or spikes that may come into that, but it works really well. We're well tied into our supply base. So I'm confident that we will be able to continue to aggressively manage this inventory during this timeframe. But we do, as Neil said, we want to take advantage of our size and scale to be that supplier that people can count on. If the rebound comes back very quickly or as we're seeing, there's critical demands, whether it's for mobile healthcare facilities or infrastructure projects and so forth that we can be a supplier they can count on to support them.

Thanks. And then perfect follow-up to that is, some of the smaller suppliers when we do our check is they might have a project, but they can't give the customer a shipping date. Is that an opportunity because your supply chains haven't been as impacted? Can you actually go and win that business that you might not have already won or is this more of an opportunity on the other side, where when you're talking to the customers they know that you're going to be reliable. So I understand on the other side of COVID right, but just wondering if there's actually an ability to win business that you didn't previously win because you have the product today?

Ricky?

Yes, yes absolutely. There is and in fact, we have done some of that. And that's true even without crisis like this, there's always times when a supplier for whatever reason is unable to supply and the customer obviously looks for an alternative, but because of our fortunate situation at least today, and I am knocking on wood, that our supply chain and our production facilities and our distribution facilities are operating at a level to reach demand, meet demand, we have been able to take some opportunistic business that unfortunately others -- unfortunately for others, not for us, for them, that they were not able to service. So we have had some of that and then we'll continue to, as I said be that reliable supplier, but they can turn tail and I agree with you on the back end, could be even the greater opportunity. If we can serve them through this, then that will give them the confidence to rely on us on the back end as well.

I appreciate the color. Thank you.

Our final question comes from Tim Wojs with Baird. Your line is now open.

Yes, hey everybody. Welcome, Neil.

Thanks Tim.

Just, maybe just going back to just priorities and maybe potential investments, both near and intermediate term, I guess from where you sit today, do you think you can fund any sort of incremental investment through the P&L through kind of the existing expense structure or do you think you might have to build some additional capacity for potential investments?

Are you talking about the immediate term or in the medium term or long-term?

Yes, I'd say probably more the medium term, just given the overarching macro situation.

Yes, so one of the things you'll hear from me a lot is that time is the only constrained resource. There's always more of everything else than there is a time and the time of your most valuable people is the most constrained resource. And so, as we think about kind of reinvestment that ultimately manifests itself and results on the P&L, we think about, how can we use the time of our most valuable engineers and other and other associates as productively as possible. So, that's what we're really focused on during this period of uncertainty and as we go forward. As we think about kind of the medium and longer-term, I believe that our more matured businesses we can hold, we can evaluate their growth and their reinvestment on their ability to grow and return on invested capital. We will need to obviously protect our developing businesses a bit and that may require us to invest in them and to take some impact to the P&L to do that. And if we do that, I think we have an obligation to be relatively transparent with you about what our thoughts are on that without affecting obviously our competitiveness by doing so. But I think that we have, we had the opportunity to build very attractive businesses and over time, we want to be in a position where we are delivering organic revenue growth, that we're continuing to deliver return on invested capital in hopefully a much larger sized enterprise with more lines of business than we currently do. So that's, that's the aspiration, that's where we want to get to. And we want to, we are willing to use our financial strength to do that both on the income statement and on the balance sheet and we will over time we will obviously bring you along with us in our thinking on that so that you can know and hold us to account to our performance about it. But I came here because we all believe that we have a solid foundation, we have a company and a business that is more durable than I think it's currently appreciated. And we'll demonstrate that through this downturn, that we are efficient cash generators, that we have market access, and we have talent and we have opportunity to grow and acquire additional lines of business which complement our current lines of business. So we're obviously, despite the near-term and short-term hopefully, but near-term impacts of the current situation, we're going to get through that and then we're going to really get, hopefully be in a good position to grow the enterprise over time.

Okay, okay. Now, that's helpful. Thank you. And then just a housekeeping question. On the SD&A line, is there a way to break out for us how much is kind of a pure variable cost in terms of like shipping and some of the incentives you pay to the agents and then how much of that is really fixed in terms of just your overhead and your SD&A?

Sure, I'll let Karen handle that one.

Sure, Tim, we don't, you won't see that in our public filings. We don't break that out separately. But one thing you can look at is when you're looking at the disaggregated revenue disclosure, and you see that mix shift towards more of the independent sales network, you will see an increase in the SD&A because of the higher commissions when that mix shift happens to those channels. So you will see a bit of a shift there.

Okay, I'm trying to think of it volumes would go down, how much, how much of the SD&A would just kind of go away from not having to pay a commission or not having to pay freight?

Yes, Karen. I think in the past, we've indicated that in the 12% range, 12% to 13% range in the aggregate. That's pretty directly variable in the SD&A costs.

Okay, great.

And just consider that mix shift as well.

Got it. Okay, thanks very much and good luck on the upcoming quarter here guys.

Thanks Tim.

Thank you.

Thank you for participating in today's Q&A. I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Neil Ashe for closing remarks.

As I started, it's a pleasure to be with you all. I wish, and I know we all wish the global contexts were different, but we're excited to be with you and we want to thank you for your interest in our company and for being a part of this journey with us as we start on the next generation of Acuity. So, thank you for your interest and your time and we'll be in touch again soon.

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