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Banner Corporation (BANR)

Q1 2015 Earnings Call· Tue, Apr 21, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the Banner Corporation's First Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Mark Grescovich, President and CEO. Please go ahead.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thank you, Allison and good morning, everyone. I would also like to welcome you to the first quarter 2015 earnings call for Banner Corporation. As is customary, joining me on the call today is Rick Barton, our Chief Credit Officer, Lloyd Baker, our Chief Financial Officer, and Albert Marshall, the Secretary of the Corporation. Albert, would you please read our forward-looking Safe Harbor statement?

Albert Marshall

Analyst

Certainly. Good morning. Our presentation today discusses Banner's business outlook and will include forward-looking statements. Those statements include descriptions of Management's plans, objectives or goals for future operations, products or services, forecasted financial or other performance measures and statements about Banner's general outlook for economic and other conditions. We also may make other forward-looking statements in the question-and-answer period following Management's discussion. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and certainties and actual results may differ materially from those discussed today. Information on the risk factors that could cause actual results to differ are available from the earnings press release that was released yesterday and a recently filed Form 10-Q for the quarter ended December 31, 2014. Forward looking statements are effective only as of the date they are made and Banner assumes no obligation to update information concerning its expectations. Thank you.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thank you, Al. As announced, yesterday Banner Corporation got off to a good start for 2015 with another solid quarter. Reporting a net profit available to common shareholders of $12.1 million dollars, or $0.61 per share for the quarter ended March 31, 2015. This compared to a net profit to common shareholders of $0.54 per share for the first quarter of 2014 and $0.60 per share in the fourth quarter of 2014. Results for the quarter just ended, were impacted by acquisition related expenses which net of taxes, reduced net income by $0.07 per diluted share. Our core operating performance for the first quarter of 2015 maintained our positive momentum in further demonstrated that through the hard work of our employees throughout the Company, we continued to successfully execute on our strategies and priorities to deliver sustainable profitability to Banner and expand our balance sheet with strong organic loan and deposit growth coupled with opportunistic acquisitions. Our consistent and increasing quarterly profits show that the execution on our strategic plan is effective and we continue building shareholder value. Our first quarter 2015 core revenue was strong at $59.7 million, and increased 16% compared to the year ago quarter. We benefited from a large and improving earning asset mix. A net interest margin that remained above 4%, and was actually 4.09%, very good deposit fee income, and strong mortgage banking revenue. Also, our cost to deposits was 18 basis points compared to 22 basis points in the first quarter of 2014. Overall, this resulted in a solid return on average assets of 1.02% for the quarter. Once again, our strong performance this quarter reflects the continued execution on our super community banking strategy. That is, reducing our funding costs by remixing our deposits away from high-priced CDs, growing new client relationships,…

Richard Barton

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

Thanks, Mark. Discussing asset quality and portfolio metrics can become complicated when an acquisition is made. To help simplify my remarks this morning, I would like to start with three general comments. The Banner historic portfolio was stable during the first quarter. All key metrics either held steady or improved slightly. The asset quality and credit metrics of the Siuslaw Bank portfolio are what we expected and not materially different from similar markets in our legacy portfolio. And, the combined portfolio has a moderate risk profile, thereby maintaining a key corporate objective. The balance of my remarks will look at key asset quality metrics to underscore our portfolio's moderate risk profile. Net charge-offs for the quarter were $542,000 or 0.014%. Gross charge-offs were concentrated in the agricultural portfolio. These losses were loan specific. With weak farm management practices being the core reason for each loss. While the quality of our agricultural portfolio remains strong, it is fair to note that some segments of the industry are experiencing more challenges than has been the case in recent years. Total non-performing assets did increase by $10 million from the linked quarter and are now 0.57% of total assets. The increase was driven by non-performing loans and REO in the acquired Siuslaw Bank portfolio. However, this level of non-performing assets is two basis points better than the same quarter last year. When, we stressed that our asset quality had attained a moderate risk profile. Classified loans in Banner's portfolio were $80 million versus $81 million at March 31, 2014. Classified loans now represent only 1.9% of total loans versus 2.3% one year ago. Delinquent loans, including non-performing loans were 0.80%. This is an increase from the linked quarter statistic of 0.66%. However, loans 30 to 89 days past due and on accrual, actually,…

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thank you, Rick, and good morning, everyone. As Mark has noted and is reported in our earnings release, Banner Corporation had a good first quarter and a good start to the year 2015. While completion of the purchase and integration of Siuslaw Bank was certainly a highlight of the quarter, our financial performance continued to reflect strong revenue growth driven by solid net interest margin coupled with significant earning asset growth and increased non-interest income, including increased deposit fees and service charges and record mortgage banking revenues. This solid performance followed trends that have been evident for extended periods and continued to demonstrate the strength of our balance sheet and the value of the Banner franchise. Our income available to common shareholders for the quarter ended March 31, 2015, increased nearly 15% to $12.1 million or, $0.61 per diluted share compared to $10.6 million or $0.54 per diluted in the same quarter a year ago. This earnings growth reflects significant organic growth. As well as last year's purchase of six branches on the southern Oregon coast. And, a little less than one month benefit from the Siuslaw Bank acquisition. The current quarter had $1.6 million of acquisition-related expenses which, net of taxes, reduced net income by $0.07 per diluted share. While similar expenses in the first quarter of 2014 were just $45,000. As a reminder, acquisition-related expenses in the fourth quarter of 2014 were $2.8 million, which net of taxes reduced earnings by $0.09 per diluted share. Revenues in the current quarter included a positive net fair value adjustment of $1.1 million which was partially offset by $510,000 of net realized losses on the sale of securities. The net fair value gain and realized losses on the sale of securities were both primarily related to the sale of two pooled…

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thank you, Lloyd, and thank you, Rick, for your comments. That concludes our prepared remarks and Allison will now open the call and we welcome your questions.

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Jeff Rulis from D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thanks. Good morning.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Good morning, Jeff.

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Hi, Jeff.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

So Lloyd, I guess I'm trying to get into the core expenses and I guess if you back up the merger costs just over $40 million for the quarter. Heard your comment about a few expenses a little higher core-wise in Q1 and then if you layer in Siuslaw for the full quarter maybe the question is Siuslaw added what to that expense base in the quarter? And could we just assume that just two more - well, for a full quarter we can just annualize that and get into the base core expense rate or level?

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Jeff, I don’t have the Siuslaw number off the top of my head. I apologize for that. But it was 30 days of expenses, so obviously there will be an increase going forward. But as I noted and that's evident in lines like occupancy which you can see was up by about $300,000 quarter-over-quarter and the information systems and so it's embedded in all of those line items. The other one that I would note is compensation was up and as we noted we had a good first quarter, an exceptionally good first quarter actually in mortgage origination and there's certainly expense associated with that as well. So I apologize. I don't have that one number off the top of my head and I would be shooting from - if I gave it.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Safe to assume if you just took the legacy size a lot quarterly rate and just took a third of that you'd get close to that and then…

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

You would get close, obviously we expect some expense savings over time because there has been some changes in staffing as a result of that. And none of those types of synergies were realized in that first 30 days, but they will be as we roll forward.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Okay, maybe broadening it out a little bit and bringing in AmericanWest to the equation, I guess, are there some efficiency ratio goals that you’ve - that post the conversion of that that you're angling towards or a percent of assets, expense to assets or something that we could kind of down the road point to where you'd like to get to?

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Well, as we’ve noted a number of times, efficiency is something that we certainly want to improve on, but we'll never be an efficiency ratio leader if you will. Having said that we've been pretty consistent in suggesting that we'd like to get in that 62% to 65% efficiency ratio and to get there I haven’t done the math exactly, but you need to drive that operating expense to average ratio down closer to 3%. We've been running around 3.25 level for an extended period of time and certainly the growth that we enjoyed with the Siuslaw acquisition and with organic growth and the branches down in southern Oregon is getting us a bigger asset base to spread some of those expenses over and the AmericanWest transaction will do the same. But as I've cautioned before, it, the conversion and acquisition expenses associated with that are going to bleed through the quarterly results for some period of time. We'll continue to highlight them as we have in this quarter, but ultimately again we need to drive that ratio below that 65% with the expense to average assets down closer to 3%.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Jeff, this is Mark. That's not going to be expected until obviously the first full year. So the other way we're kind of approaching this and you get to the number of 62% to 65% longer term efficiency ratio is having a positive operating leverage for the company. If our revenues are growing at 16% and as you can see in the release our core expenses are growing at about 13% we're generating core positive operating leverage for the company and that should drive the ratio. To the extent you don’t get the client acquisition in the revenue growth associated with it. That's when you get a little bit more draconian with expense.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Got it. Okay, and then on the updated timing of the anticipated AmericanWest close now in early Q3. Is that push the expected - I know we're getting ahead of ourselves but expected conversion date do you anticipate that by year end 2015?

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

This is Mark, Jeff. I think what we are going to is be certain that there is a little client impact in the conversion as possible and as you know the closer you get to year end the more opportunity there is for client disruption as well as internal processing issues for year end. So it would not - I would not be shocked if I were you to see that we would move that conversion into first quarter.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

It make sense, okay I will step back thanks.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thank you, Jeff.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Don Worthington from Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Donald A. Worthington

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Good morning everyone.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Good morning, Don.

Donald A. Worthington

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

I wanted to get some color on the mortgage banking in terms of Lloyd you mentioned that both refi and purchase were strong. Do you have a breakdown between the two in terms of originations?

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

I do Don, good morning. Refinance was about 48% of the origination volume this quarter and that’s up from about 30% in recent quarters so obviously the decline in mortgage rates played a factor in the volume there. Revenue from that line of business was margins were again very strong this quarter which is reflective of the decline in interest rates as well. So but the production volume was actually up quarter-over-quarter. So it was not just a refinanced wave by any stretch the imagination and continue to stayed focused on purchase activity and housing markets in our areas of remained very robust.

Donald A. Worthington

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

So as mortgage banking activity state fairly healthy so far in Q2?

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Yeah, I think the pipeline is still quit full, certainly better than it was a year ago and as I noted we continue - have continued for sometime to invest in the business line and by that specifically I mean adding additional production capacity and personnel. So we would expect to see that business continue to prosper.

Donald A. Worthington

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Okay great, thank you.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Thanks Don.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Russell Gunther from Macquarie. Please go ahead.

Russell Gunther

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

Hey good morning guys.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

Good morning, Russell.

Russell Gunther

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

I appreciate the color you gave on the loan portfolio trends in the quarter and I just wanted to follow up on the pipeline. I know you guys don’t quantify, but could you give us sense for directionally where the pipeline went quarter-on-quarter and what maybe some of the drivers would have been there?

Richard Barton

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

Russell, this is Rick Barton.

Russell Gunther

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

Hi, Rick.

Richard Barton

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

Taking it by portfolio segments, Lloyd has already covered the mortgage banking pipeline so I won't repeat that. The CRE pipeline remains quite full whether we're looking at residential construction, or commercial loan products. I would characterize it as equal to if not slightly greater than it was this time a year ago. And frankly, one of the challenges is picking and choosing the right projects to do and not finding ourselves being over concentrated in any product type or geographic area. Also we don't want to get over our skis and get ahead of the ability of our staff to properly manage what we have on the books. The commercial pipeline I would characterize as improved from last year with the strength of the economy in the Northwest, I think we are beginning to see greater borrowing needs on the part of our customers and because of that we are enjoying some additional success in the C&I arena.

Russell Gunther

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

That’s really helpful. I appreciate it. I guess just so the net, net, quarter-on-quarter how would you characterize the loan pipeline and in the aggregate?

Richard Barton

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

I would characterize it as that.

Russell Gunther

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

Okay. That’s great, thank you. Guys just moving to the margin if I could real quick continues to defy my expectations and Lloyd, I know you've been talking about this for a long time. Congrats to everybody on that performance. I just want follow-up on margin guidance you guys have given previously given that we are little closer to the AWBC close would you still expect sort of 10 to 15 basis points dilution to the margin at closer or has that shifted at all.

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

This is Lloyd. No, our expectation there hasn't shifted. I think 15 is better number than 10, probably pleased if there because their core margin excluding purchase accounting adjustments which have been significant in their operations over the last few year, core margin is quite a bit lower than ours, so we can hold it to a 15 basis point decline I think we would be pleased with that obviously we will have a lot more volume that we are spreading that out.

Russell Gunther

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

Sure.

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

And you are right, I have cautioned about the impact of low interest rates on the margin for an extended period of time, we continue to - our teams continues to surprise me. How is that?

Russell Gunther

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

That’s fair. And you guys have been quite clear about expectations, you don’t expect much noise in the way of purchase accounting accretion do close AWBC is there any benefit from that in that 10 to 15 of NIM dilution or is that absent any purchase accounting accretion that made materially?

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

No, there will be purchase accounting accretion as a result of that transaction it won’t be large but it will add basis a number of basis points to that margin and isn’t factored into to my 15 basis point decline expectation there.

Russell Gunther

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

Okay, that’s very helpful. Thank you. And just last one for me with regard to capital management, I saw the by back approval for the quarter, is that something that we could see in the back half of 2015 and is it - if that sort of avenue for continued prudent capital deployment as you digest a bunch of these pending deals or which you consider doing in other deal while you are kind of chop in with on the integration of AWBC?

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

Russell this is Mark. As we have said before, we want to have the availability and resources to deploy capital in the most prudent way possible and that means that we want all tools available to us and certainly a share buyback having that tool as part of capital management going forward as critical. I would not anticipate any type of - we have not utilized it currently and I would not suggest that we will utilize it in 2015. However it may become prudent to do a share buyback sometime next year unless again that we have adequate use or that deployment of capital which clearly would be continued reimbursement to franchise and/or select an opportunistic M&A.

Russell Gunther

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

Great. All right, thanks Mark. Thanks everybody. Appreciate the help.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead

You bet.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from Jackie Chimera from KBW. Please go ahead.

Jackie Chimera

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Hi, good morning guys.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Good morning Jackie.

Jackie Chimera

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

What exactly was the timing of the Siuslaw conversion?

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Jackie, this is Lloyd. The transaction closed on March 6 and we converted over that weekend.

Jackie Chimera

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay.

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

And it worked out very well to be able to close and convert on the same weekend. That’s not always the case and by doing that you avoid some of the interim procedures that have to be put in place if you are not able to do that. So it was very successful as I noted conversion and a lot of hard work and effort by lot of people to pull it off, but as Mark as pointed out minimal client disruption and we are really pleased that operation is functioning today very smoothly as if it had been part of the organization for sometime.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

And Jackie, this is Mark. I think one encouraging light that we see is the employees that joined Banner from the Siuslaw banking operation have done a phenomenal job in handling client relations and the retention, client retention numbers are exceeding our expectation and then actually, we would anticipate some pretty sizable growth numbers here going forward.

Jackie Chimera

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Good. That all I got to hear. So that’s fitting in nicely than with the branches you acquired from Amcor mid last year?

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Yes.

Jackie Chimera

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay. So is it fair to say since you had almost a month after the conversion that 2Q should provide us with a pretty good base run rate absents the third quarter AmericanWest transaction? Most of the cost saves came out in March?

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Mark shaking his head, yes I am not fully understanding your question as I pointed out we didn’t achieve much and we have cost saves in March.

Jackie Chimera

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

No, I just mean that most everything that you have done in terms of the transition and everything else have took place during March, so there wasn’t much spill over into April and beyond, so most of the cost savings that you are expecting to have we should get a clean run rate in 2Q because they were taking care of in March so that didn’t hit the income statement.

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

That is generally correct.

Jackie Chimera

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay.

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

I will make a point that the acquisition related expenses that we reported in the first quarter included expenses related to Siuslaw obviously, but also included the expenses related to the AmericanWest transaction and we will continue to see similar expenses related to that transaction in the second quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter and actually first quarter of next year I’m sure as well.

Jackie Chimera

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay.

Lloyd Baker

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

So yes I think the second quarters run rate on the core is going to give you a good sense of what we look like without AmericanWest. And then you have any - Americanwest into the equation going further from there.

Jackie Chimera

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay, and was AmericanWest planning on I know the greater Sacramento deal closed in February, are they stripping out any costs from that transaction or will that primarily began with that…

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

No, they have been able to consolidate the number of the platform although not the conversion costs, not the systems but personnel certainly. So they may able to gain some efficiency from that.

Jackie Chimera

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

And do you know to what extent that will be captured in there when they put out the rate data for the first quarter? Do you know to what extent that will have a run rate? And was it - or was it probably more end of the quarter type thing.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

No it’s about mid-February. So not a half a quarter and of course in the regulatory reporting the acquisition related expenses - the one-time expense if you will, will be hard to identify in regulatory reports.

Jackie Chimera

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay, so probably better to just use the December, the two separate companies and they expect there would be a little bit of cost savings from the greater Sacramento piece?

Richard Barton

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

I think just good approach to it, yes.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

And remember Jackie they remember the both cost associated with the processing platforms there have been any conversion there. So there is still - that will occur we don’t too disruptive client based are twice. So they will convert on to our platform first.

Jackie Chimera

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay great thank you guys both very much for the color.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Thanks Jackie.

Operator

Operator

Having no further questions. This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Mark Grescovich for any closing remarks.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thank you, Allison. As I stated we are pleased with our solid first quarter performance and see it as evidence that we're making substantial and sustainable progress on our disciplined strategic plan to build shareholder value by executing on our super community bank model, by growing market share, strengthening our deposit franchisee, improving our core operating performance, maintaining a moderate risk profile, and prudently deploying excess capital. I would like to thank all my colleagues who are driving this solid performance for our Company and it consistent performance. Thank you for your interest in Banner and for joining our call today. We look forward to reporting our results to you again in the future. Thanks everyone.

Operator

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.