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Q4 2023 Earnings Call· Thu, Mar 30, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the BlackBerry Fourth Quarter and Full Fiscal Year 2023 Results Conference Call. My name is Jason, and I will be your conference moderator for today's call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn today's call over to Tim Foote, Vice President of BlackBerry Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Tim Foote

Analyst

Thank you, Jason. Good afternoon, and welcome to BlackBerry's Fourth Quarter and Full Fiscal Year 2023 Earnings Conference Call. With me on the call today are Executive Chair and Chief Executive Officer, John Chen; and Chief Financial Officer, Steve Rai. After I read our cautionary note regarding forward-looking statements, John will provide a business update and Steve will review the financial results. We will then open the call for a brief Q&A session. This call is available to the general public via call-in numbers and via webcast in the Investor Information section at BlackBerry.com. A replay will also be available on the BlackBerry.com website. Some of the statements we'll be making today constitute forward-looking statements and are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of applicable U.S. and Canadian securities laws, will indicate forward-looking statements by using words such as expect, will, should, model, intend, believe and similar expressions. Forward-looking statements are based on estimates and assumptions made by the company in light of its experience and its perception of historical trends, current conditions and expected future developments as well as other factors that the company believes are relevant. Many factors could cause the company's actual results or performance to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. These factors include the risk factors that are discussed in the company's annual filings and MD&A. You should not place undue reliance on the company's forward-looking statements. Any forward-looking statements are made only as of today, and the company has no intention and undertakes no obligation to update or revise any of them, except as required by law. As is customary during the call, John and Steve will reference non-GAAP numbers in our summary of our quarterly and full year results. For a reconciliation between our GAAP and non-GAAP numbers, please see the earnings press release published earlier today, which is available on the EDGAR, SEDAR and BlackBerry.com websites. And with that, I'll turn the call over to John.

John Chen

Analyst

Thanks, Tim. Good afternoon, everybody, and thanks for joining the call today. Let me start my review today with the IoT business unit. This has been a very good year. Despite a challenging macro environment, BlackBerry IoT closed out the year with strong 16% year-over-year revenue growth to $206 million. This is in line with the outlook range we provided this time last year. QNX has a record year for adding new royalty backlog from design wins. In fact, backlog at the end of fiscal '23 has grown to a new record high of $640 million, 6-4-0. Going forward, we will report this annually in Q4 rather than in Q1 to enable a more in-depth discussion during our Analyst Day, which typically happens in May. The result is yet more tangible evidence that our strategy for QNX and IoT is really paying off. The business is executing and capitalizing on strong secular trends. The move towards high-performance, safety-critical software running on more powerful chipsets, is opening up significant opportunities for QNX. In addition to generating royalty backlog, the new design wins also drove near-record levels for preproduction revenue in Q4, that is, revenue from development licenses as well as professional services. Furthermore, the IoT business unit delivered a strong 81% gross margin, 8-1. In the quarter, we secured a total of 36 new design wins, with 6 in auto and 30 in GEM. QNX is winning in multiple auto domains. In particular, we continue to perform well in the fast-growing ADAS and the digital cockpit domain. In addition to auto, in adjacent verticals, we also see similar trends towards high-performance safety critical software at the edge. Medical and industrials are among a number of verticals making this transition, and QNX is capitalizing on it. Example this quarter, including a win…

Steve Rai

Analyst

Thank you, John. As usual, my comments on our financial performance for the fourth quarter will be in non-GAAP terms unless otherwise noted. Total company revenue for the quarter was $151 million, IoT revenue was $53 million and cybersecurity revenue was $88 million. Software product revenue as a percentage of total revenue remained in the range of 85% to 90%, and professional services made up the balance. The percentage of software product revenue that was recurring increased to around 90% given the delay of some large mainly perpetual deals that John mentioned earlier. Licensing and other revenue was $10 million. Total company gross margin was 67%. Operating expenses for the fourth quarter were $118 million. These non-GAAP operating expenses exclude $26 million fair value gain on the convertible debentures, $15 million in amortization of acquired intangibles, $9 million in stock compensation expense and $7 million in restructuring expenses as a result of steps taken in the quarter to streamline costs, including facilities and IT infrastructure. Non-GAAP operating expenses also exclude a $476 million noncash accounting impairment of goodwill and long-lived assets for the Spark reporting unit. This represents a noncash charge of $0.82 to GAAP earnings per share. In accordance with accounting rules, we were required to perform a goodwill impairment review by determining a fair value for all our reporting units, the total of which is required to reconcile through our market capitalization. BlackBerry's market capitalization at the test date had declined year-on-year, similar to the broad-based market decline over the same period. Further details will be disclosed in our Form 10-K. The non-GAAP operating loss for the fourth quarter was $17 million and non-GAAP net loss was $13 million. The $0.02 non-GAAP basic loss per share for the quarter beat expectations. Adjusted EBITDA, excluding the non-GAAP adjustments previously mentioned, was negative $12 million. Total cash, cash equivalents and investments were $487 million as at February 28, 2023, and free cash usage in the quarter reduced to $9 million. In this coming fiscal year, we will be focused on driving towards both profitable growth and being cash flow positive. In our IoT business, we will continue to invest given the relatively high level of visibility we have for growth. On the cyber side, we have identified a clear plan to deliver expansion of both gross margin and operating margin. The outlook for the coming year is for a significantly lower EPS loss and cash flow usage. That concludes my comments, and I'll turn it back to John.

John Chen

Analyst

Thank you, Steve. Before we open the line for Q&A, let me recap on the key message from the quarter. This was a strong quarter and a record year for QNX royalty backlog for BlackBerry IoT. We enter FY '24 with significant design momentum. And although we still face macroeconomics and supply chain headwinds, we expect revenue growth of approximately 20% this coming fiscal year. The Cyber business unit was impacted this quarter by elongated sales cycle in government, causing a number of large deals to slip to later quarters. However, the nongovernment business drove sequential billing growth for the third consecutive quarter. We expect to deliver revenue growth of approximately 5% and billings growth of approximately 15% this fiscal year and to return to sequential ARR growth for the Cybersecurity business unit in the second half. And finally, we enter into a fully funded agreement to sell the noncore patent portfolio for up to $900 million while also retaining more patents and retaining existing revenue contracts. That concludes my remarks. Jason, can you please open the line for Q&A?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Luke Junk from Baird.

Luke Junk

Analyst

To start, hoping you could extend please on where you were able to take cost out of the P&L already this quarter, so OpEx down sequentially. And looking forward, what you envision with respect to plan to deliver gross margin and operating margin expansion, especially in cybersecurity, maybe if you could just speak to some specific actions and areas of the cost stack that you're focused on.

John Chen

Analyst

Okay. We have been focusing on improving gross margin and operating margin for the Cyber business for quite some time. And in this past quarter, we just see some of the results. Shifting costs to a lower cost base area, hiring people in those areas, more so than hiring people in a more expensive area, is certainly one way of doing that, particularly mostly in the replacement of attrition. And a little bit more disciplined on pricing and discounting has also been put in place. So by and large, we were able to do that. And our plan calls to continue to do that for the balance of the year, the new fiscal year. And then we also reduced G&A costs where we can. And we've done a lot. Facility costs is another aspect of it. So many different areas, it's a very concerted effort. Let's see. From an IoT perspective, this is the unit that has been exempt from focusing on that, they are just focusing on growth. And I think they're still going to hire 200-some people this year, or if they could right now, assuming we have the candidates. So those are kind of how we allocate capital and spending.

Luke Junk

Analyst

Very helpful. And then for my follow-up, hoping to take a step back and just talk about the bigger picture in IoT and in auto, specifically. Just love to get your perspective on the focus of that market going forward from here. One of the clearest takeaways at CES this year walking the floor was the prevalence of an increase in centralized architectures, which also has very clear implications for auto software and ultimately software-defined vehicles. Can you just speak to where you're finding your auto customers right now in terms of their readiness for a software-forward future in auto? And do you think there is an increasing sense of urgency, especially OEMs trying to figure out software?

John Chen

Analyst

Yes. Yes, very much so. I think you said everything. It's consistent with what we have been learning from customers and analysts also. So you talked to each of the OEMs. They all have a strong investment in SDG, I mean the software-defined vehicle, and approach. And they need foundational software and they need it from a safety perspective. A number of years back, there were a couple of large OEMs who attempted to do the foundational software themselves, and they have all decided to join force with us and work with us directly. And these are very big names. And we, of course, welcome the partnership. So if you look at our win rate, and I don't want to jinx it, but it's extremely, extremely high. In fact, I think our team wins 90% of the deals out there or something like that. And then in addition to that, our products related to hypervisors, ADAS related to cockpit, are all very popular wins out there and usage out there. And then I also wanted to say beyond auto, we're also seeing a lot of strong interest. As I said in my script, all the chip technology company is pushing multi-core and multi-processing, parallel processing and all that good stuff. And they need safety and they need a hypervisor. And so we seem to have a very good strong track record in the eyes of the customer. So I'm pretty comfortable that we're going to see continued growth at least for the immediate future.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Daniel Chan from TD Securities.

Daniel Chan

Analyst

when you're monetizing the remaining patents, are you looking to license them out? Or are you looking to sell them? If you're looking to license them, should we expect it to be faster, more broadly licensed, considering they're standards of central patents?

John Chen

Analyst

Yes. It's licensing. So the remaining patent is now in 2 groups once the transaction is done. One group is the embedded and the cybersecurity patents. And the other group is the mobile patent, mobile phones and related networking patents. So the latter, we will monetize through third-party and probably, in some cases, we will trim the patent down a little bit by selling some. And the former, we haven't really decided the overall plan yet. And of course, we will always be interested in licensing to people, but it's probably not going to be an active process.

Daniel Chan

Analyst

Okay. And then, John, around this time 5 years ago, the Board extended your arrangement to lead the company until November this year. Just wondering whether you can share with us what your plans are as we get closer to November.

John Chen

Analyst

No, no. We started the conversation between me and the Board. So stay tuned on that. We don't have anything to report at this point.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Mike Walkley from Canaccord.

T. Michael Walkley

Analyst

John, just want to dig a little bit more into the Cybersecurity business. It's great to hear, on the SMB side, you have simplified approach and managed responses. We hear that more and more. Can you talk about competition within that business? And with this new approach, how quickly you get that implemented, and is that giving you confidence in ARR returning to growth in second half of the year?

John Chen

Analyst

Good question. So there's a lot of competition. I think you folks hear different cybersecurity companies all kind of gun in for the SMB. The good thing about the SMB market is a, big; and b, they lack the security, the ability to have their own security team, normally. So they are very receptive to our MDR solution, our Guard solution. And then we are now streamlining this turnkey product set just to make sure that they don't need to have a certain level of capability or knowledge before they could put it in use. Either they use it themselves or they use us to help them to use it. But this is very popular. You already heard it, I'm sure, from most of all the key players. The good news is the market is big. It's growing. I think there's a lot of SMBs, for the first time, take this investment quite seriously because they have to given what the trend of the cybersecurity world looks like and the ransom world looks like. And there's a lot of white space for replacement of prior technology, the first generation. So with that combination, the market is big, but the competition is fierce, too. I would agree with that.

T. Michael Walkley

Analyst

That's helpful. And yes, I think a simplified approach is what the SMBs are really looking for. Just as my follow-up question, just digging a little more into cybersecurity, is ARR stable to growing outside the UEM business? And maybe you can update us on UEM, kind of where that is on churning off some customers that you wanted to kind of end of life as you focus more on the large government type deals.

John Chen

Analyst

Yes. UEM has in the last couple of quarters. ARR and the business is stable, which is a good sign, gives us some level of comfort.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Paul Treiber from RBC Capital Markets.

Paul Treiber

Analyst

Just since we're on the topic of cybersecurity, could you speak to the traction that you've seen of cross-selling cyber into UEM base, which is predominantly large enterprise?

John Chen

Analyst

Yes. Let's see. We see some but not dominant because our UES, our Cylance base, is typically SMB. And our UEM base is typically very large names. But on the other hand, there has been some upsell. I wouldn't -- so I would say that it's promising but not very high volume at this point. However, this is something that we will go do. And mostly, we're going to have to go after the McAfee and the Symantec and the Trend Micro base.

Paul Treiber

Analyst

And what fundamentally has been the challenge? Is it product? Is it pricing? Is it sales? Can you help us better understand that?

John Chen

Analyst

Yes, 3 years ago, it was the product. Our EDR was not as up to snuff as everybody else. We have better EPP, but the world wants both. So we slipped from that. Now it's really more on what leverage we could create. And our product is now back in competitive mode. We have some differentiated things based on our AI model and the Cylance OEM model and the lightweight and the offline mode and all that. So we have some really strong reasons for customers to take a look at and use. But we need better traction in the indirect sales side. Our direct salespeople, after the last year, 1.5 years plus, building and so forth, we feel comfortable that the productivity is there. Then now we need to get some leverage. We need more deals. And the only way that we could do that is to engage with third-party better. And that's the #1 focus in this year's plan.

Paul Treiber

Analyst

That's helpful. And then just one more, if I may. Just in regard to IoT, you mentioned very strong win rates. Could you speak to the pricing and how ARPUs are tracking? And obviously, OEMs are hard to sell into. Do you still see opportunities to expand ARPU? Like, what you were targeting a couple of years ago, I think there was a number of like $25 or so per vehicle ARPU. Is that still an achievable long-term target?

John Chen

Analyst

Absolutely. In fact, I would say to you, and I hope I don't have to eat these words myself, I would say to you today, and I'll explain why I do, today, I have more confidence in per car ARPU than when I first came over that as a goal a number of years back. And the reason is now we are basically being accepted as a foundational software for major auto companies. Like, names that I could reveal like Volvo and BMWs and Volkswagen, and these are all public information, so they are all centralized on BlackBerry QNX. So when you have a foundational software, and earlier, the conversation regarding software-defined vehicle, allow us to upsell modules. And so that brings the different type of economics because, in the past, we're talking about 1 copy and charge it one time. Now we're talking about building on, on that platform and upselling. So I think our people are very excited about it, and rightfully so. I see the same trend. Customers are more receptive in buying more adaptive modules and then plug onto the platform which, of course, we have safety certification across everything we sell.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Todd Coupland from CIBC.

Thomas Ingham

Analyst

I want to follow up on that last ARPU question. Maybe I'll ask it a little differently. When you look at the IoT backlog that you quote, what would be the software per vehicle embedded in that, in the wins that you have already? Is it high single digits? Is it double digits in that $25 range? Can you give us any color on what actually is it?

John Chen

Analyst

Yes. So there are a handful of wins that could push us in that area of $20, $25. But most of them, I would say, in high single digit and low double digit.

Thomas Ingham

Analyst

Okay. And I mean, obviously, if you're $10 or higher, that's quite a bit higher than just the infotainment OS where you've come from. When would you see production volume of those double-digit type ARPU starting to kick in?

John Chen

Analyst

Well, part of the reason that we feel, I don't know if I should say comfortable, but we feel okay with our 17% to 20% growth this year. It's because we expect to see some of this, the so-called start of production, the SOP. And so I believe FY '25, '26, we have a higher growth number. If you remember, we set a 5-year compounded growth rate of 20%. So we came in the first year at 16%. This year, it's going to be 17% to 20%. And so the math says that we will have to be over 20% in the next couple of years.

Thomas Ingham

Analyst

So what you're saying with that, those handful of like higher ARPU deals later in the year, that's what gets you to that. I don't know exactly where the number lands in Q2, but let's call it $65 million to $75 million a quarter implied for Q3 and Q4, if you take your guide at face value.

John Chen

Analyst

Yes. That's correct. We map in the production. The only wrinkle is something that will not be within our control. The wrinkle will be a macroeconomic issue of high interest rate that slows down production, a deterioration of supply chain, chip availability that will slow down production. That will put a wrinkle on us in the second half. But given everything we know today and all the conversation with the OEMs, the team feels very comfortable, quite comfortable. I'm usually very optimistic, so you have to factor that in. They feel comfortable delivering my outlook that I provided earlier.

Thomas Ingham

Analyst

And baked into the outlook is that 85 million production volume for the market, and then you'll get that higher ARPU even if you don't get back to those 2018 levels. Is that the right way to talk about that?

John Chen

Analyst

Yes. That's the math that we based it on. Yes, correct.

Thomas Ingham

Analyst

Okay. And my second question has to do with the outstanding debentures. What's your thinking on a target balance sheet. With the extra cash from the patent sale, would you look to repay that debt? Or would you look to roll it over? Just talk about plan.

John Chen

Analyst

Our plan is to repay the debt.

Thomas Ingham

Analyst

Repay all of it.

John Chen

Analyst

Yes. Now if somebody wants to roll a small portion over, we will be open to it, but that's not our current planning.

Operator

Operator

I would like to turn the call back over to John Chen, Executive Chair and CEO of BlackBerry for closing remarks.

John Chen

Analyst

Thank you. Thank you, Jason. Before we end the call today, I'd like to remind you about a few events coming up. Between the April 24 and 27, BlackBerry will be at RSA conference, and we'll be demonstrating the new product offerings that I mentioned earlier. So if you happen to be there, please do drop by. On May 17, we'll be hosting a virtual Analyst Day in which management will provide a comprehensive overview of our long-term strategy, product innovation, market opportunities, go-to-market approach and, of course, the financial outlook. Then on May 23, we'll be hosting a retail investor focused live Q&A, in which John Giamatteo, the President of BlackBerry Cybersecurity; and Mattias Eriksson, President of BlackBerry IoT, will answer your questions. So please feel free to send them to Tim in advance at investorrelations@blackberry.com or you can submit them through the call on that day. We'll provide more detail on all these events in the coming weeks. So please stay tuned. As always, I thank every one of you for joining today's call, and I hope to speak to you soon.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.