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Brandywine Realty Trust (BDN)

Q1 2015 Earnings Call· Thu, Apr 23, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Felicia and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Brandywine Realty Trust First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. I will now like to hand the conference over to Gerry Sweeney, President and CEO of Brandywine Realty Trust. Please go ahead, sir.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Mizuho Securities

Felicia, thank you very much. Good morning everyone and thank you all for participating in our first quarter 2015 earnings call. On the call with me today are George Johnstone, our Executive Vice President of Operations; Tom Wirth, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and Dan Palazzo, our Vice President and Chief Accounting Officer. Prior to beginning, certain information discussed during this call may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities law. Although, we believe estimates reflected in these statements are based on reasonable assumptions, we cannot give assurance that the anticipated results will be achieved. For further information on factors that could impact our anticipated results, please reference our press release, as well as our most recent annual and quarterly SEC reports. As we normally do, I'll start with an overview of our three key business plan components that is operations, balance sheet and investments. George will then discuss our 2015 leasing and operating progress. And we'll then turn the call over to Tom to review our financial results. Looking back, we had an excellent first quarter. We made solid progress towards our meeting our business plan objectives and advancing our capital plan. Our operating metrics remain in line with our business plan targets and we’ve encountered earlier success than we anticipated on our disposition plan. The combination of stronger operating metrics was offset by earlier than anticipated disposition volume, so we are tightening our FFO guidance range to $1.40 to $1.46 per share. In terms of operations, during the first quarter we leased 889,000 square feet and commenced occupancy on 878,000 square feet. We had approximately 250,000 square feet of negative absorption as we indicated on our last call, primarily due to the previously announced move-outs of TV Guide in Radnor, and Hewlett…

George Johnstone

Analyst · Mizuho Securities

Thank you, Gerry. Activity levels around the company remained strong. Weekly inspections during the quarter averaged 209,000 square feet, up 22% from last quarter and comparable to 2014 levels on an available square footage basis. Our leasing pipeline excluding development and redevelopment properties totals 3.3 million square feet, including 619,000 square feet in active lease negotiations. Looking specifically at our markets; in CBD Philadelphia we’re 98% leased, outperforming market vacancy by 700 basis points and have significantly reduced rollover risk for the next five years. The demand for Class A office space remained strong, as tenants seek newer amenity rich product. Access to labor from a growing pool of millennials living and working in the city continues to influence tenants to relocate and/or expand into the city. This tightening has allowed us to continue to push rents, lengthened lease terms and control capital. In Austin, we’re 96% leased. The Austin market remains extremely active posting its 17th consecutive quarter of positive absorption and seeing rents reaching new high. Subsequent to the end of the quarter, we terminated 103,000 square foot lease for the tenant at the Parc. This event generated a termination fee in the first quarter which Tom will elaborate upon during his remarks. Our focus is on the backfill of the Parc and the continued lease up at Encino, which Gerry addressed in his comments. At the Parc, we currently are negotiating a lease for 64,000 square foot tenant and hope to have this transaction completed shortly. The Pennsylvania Crescent markets are 97% lease, also continue to perform well, the town center attributes of these properties continue to be the demand drivers for its office space. The limited amount of available inventory in the Crescent markets continues to push deals towards King of Prussia and other Northern and…

Tom Wirth

Analyst · Jamie Feldman with Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Thank you, George. Our fourth quarter [sic – first quarter] FFO totaled $58.5 million or $0.32 per share and our FFO payout ratio is 47% based on our current $0.15 dividend. Some observations about the first quarter FFO results; same-store growth rates for the quarter were 2.2% GAAP and 0.6% cash, both excluding net termination fees and other income items. We’ve now had 15 consecutive quarters for GAAP metric and 11 for cash metric and growth. Our same-store portfolio margins decreased as compared to the fourth quarter, the same store occupancy decreased from 91.4% to 90.2%, which we forecasted. Other income increased $1.9 million due to real estate tax refunds, totaling $1 million and unanticipated investment income totaling $0.7 million. G&A expense totaled $6.8 million, which came in higher than previous guidance, the increase is primarily due to higher than anticipated professional fees and accelerated compensation expense. Interest expense totaled $28.2 million and was $1.3 million below the fourth quarter, primarily due to the completion of our liability management transactions in mid-October. Interest income totaled $0.8 million, which was in line with projections. Our FFO contributions among consolidated joint ventures totaled $8.2 million, $1 million above the fourth quarter results. This increase is primarily due to our River Place acquisition, which occurred in October and the termination fee we received from our Austin joint venture as it relates to a large tenant solar winds that left the Parc and we are backfilling that space. Our fourth quarter [sic – first quarter] CAD totaled $39.5 or $0.22 per diluted share, and 68% payout ratio during the quarter, as a result of our significant leasing activity and occupancy will incur $12 million of revenue maintaining capital expenditures. As Gerry mentioned, we have narrowed our FFO guidance to $1.40 to $1.46. Looking at…

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Mizuho Securities

Tom and George, thank you very much. That wraps up our prepared remarks. The first quarter results were strong and consistent with our business plan, and we continue to focus on executing all elements of the previous announced business plan in terms of leasing activity, financial activity, as well as capital activity. With that we’re delighted to open up the floor for questions. And as we always do, we ask that in the interest of time, you limit yourself to one question and a follow up. Felicia, we can open the floor for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from the line of Rich Anderson with Mizuho Securities.

Rich Anderson

Analyst · Mizuho Securities

Hey, thanks and good morning everyone. So first question, kind of bigger picture for Gerry, you know in the news last couple of days is whether or not Comcast and Time Warner Cable are going come together. Do you have any opinion about that one way or another, and how much the Philadelphia market hinges in terms of its future prognosis on something happening there or not happening?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Mizuho Securities

Rich, it’s – as the papers report, it’s a situation in flux, I mean certainly we think that there's a lot of good reasons for that merger to happen. I think the impact on the Philadelphia market is unclear at this point, given the fact that Comcast before this transaction was growing at a fairly significant clip, and that certainly the expectation was that this transaction occurred that would accelerate their recent expansion plans, but I don’t think anybody really has any visibility into the long-term impact, but I think what we do know is that Comcast as it performs today was continuing with very solid growth record that was having a positive impact on the City of Philadelphia.

Rich Anderson

Analyst · Mizuho Securities

Okay. And then a follow-up question maybe for George. Your sublease space as a percentage of the total has been trending down over the past several quarters, can you kind of comment on that, do you see that as an ongoing trend, and how low is sublease space become in the history of the company for Brandywine?

George Johnstone

Analyst · Mizuho Securities

Yeah, I think, I think in the near term we probably do see a trending down a little bit. I think you know a lot of larger blocks of space where companies you know went through some rightsizing, put a lot of sublease space on the market, but we’ve seen that start to come back, we’ve seen tenants actually you know have subleases expire and then reoccupy the space, but it does vary a little bit you know, kind of market to market, we have seen down in Northern Virginia there's been a little bit more submarket space come on the market down there, not necessarily in our portfolio, but I think in terms the low watermark for us, I mean I think it was, I’ll probably have to get back to you offline on that one, try have a number to give you.

Rich Anderson

Analyst · Mizuho Securities

But you wouldn't say – or would you say this is a kind of a reasonable kind of indicator of improving health of the overall portfolio or is it just kind of too choppy to kind of come to that type of a conclusion?

George Johnstone

Analyst · Mizuho Securities

I think we feel confident that that number is continuing to come down because our tenant base is just getting healthier.

Rich Anderson

Analyst · Mizuho Securities

Okay. Great, thank you.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of John Guinee with Stifel.

John Guinee

Analyst · John Guinee with Stifel

Great. Gerry, nice quarter, Tom, George also. Critical sort of softball question for you, when you look at your portfolio now 39% CBD Philadelphia, 19% Radnor and you still have this god-awful value office logo with a ribbon glass building from the late 70s when are you going to change that?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · John Guinee with Stifel

We’re actually looking at that potentially changing the logo in the next couple of quarters.

John Guinee

Analyst · John Guinee with Stifel

Then second. The tough part right now and a lot of us probably never thought we’d be saying this, you’ve got a tremendous amount of cash on hand and the buying environment is very, very difficult given the most of your competitors are borrowing 65%, 70%, 85% LTV, off a floating-rate, where do you see the investment opportunities, which you clearly need to get done to hit your guidance for 2015?

George Johnstone

Analyst · John Guinee with Stifel

Hey John, good question. Look there is no question that the acquisition environment remains very challenging. To with – the best evidence of that if you’re having a hard time buying in some markets yourself, so we've been really accelerating the pace of our dispositions, I think with some fairly good success. We do have a number of acquisition options in our pipeline. Again, we typically tend to look for things were there's an opportunity for us to add some value to the process and at this point we’d really kind of reassess to our entire pipeline and even in anticipation of the call, I’ve kind of held our guidance target where we think it will be at this point and see what the next – really next quarter brings. But we are actively looking in a number of the key marks that we’ve targeted for growth, really Austin, parts of Washington D.C., as well as the asset markets in CBD and Philadelphia.

John Guinee

Analyst · John Guinee with Stifel

Okay, and then just the obvious question, everybody has to ask is. Have you thought about a share buyback or increasing the dividend?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · John Guinee with Stifel

Well, we certainly keep both of those topics on the agenda, and I think as we’ve talked before about increasing the dividend one of the real key highlights of the company is that our CAD payout ratio continues to improve and even with this reduction of $0.03 in our range and that's really driven exclusively by us being more aggressive and more successful on our 2016 earlier renewal program. So the capital spend rate that we have programmed appears to be very much in place, that I think will position the company for looking at that dividend question in the not-too-distant future.

John Guinee

Analyst · John Guinee with Stifel

Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brendan Maiorana with Wells Fargo.

Brendan Maiorana

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana with Wells Fargo

Thanks. So Gerry, I did want to spend a little time asking about the balance sheet or Tom, maybe sort of from a opposite end of the way John was asking about it, but you guys have done a really nice job bringing leverage down, debt-to-EBITDA is now six and a half times, but you’ve got some spend on the development pipeline that is to come, and you know you've done a nice job growing the NAV or focused on growing NAV over the past couple of years, but for a variety of reasons I think your share price is now below NAV, so it would be challenging to issue and to issue equity to grow. Do you think about maybe just stopping the acquisitions that are out there because if you run out the capital plan and you did the $250 million or $235 million of acquisitions you get to the point where the debt-to-EBITDA numbers could move higher even if it were temporary from – because you’ve got this development spend, which should be on non-income producing assets for a little bit. So just how do you sort of think about managing the balance sheet in the environment with some, with where the share price is?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana with Wells Fargo

Brendan great series of questions in there. I think first and foremost we are pleased with how with the progress we've made on the balance sheet, but I think we articulate in every – on every call and every investor meeting our targets remain below where we are today. We do anticipate as we talked about in the last call that our EBITDA multiple will increase over the next several quarters primarily until FMC comes on line and generates revenue and the Encino Trace project leases up and is ultimately contributed to our joint venture, so we’re aware of that sensitivity. Look, the stock price being where – it is below NAV and it was below NAV for a long time period of time as we were retooling the balance sheet, and I think we've always used one of our best sources of capital and NAV accretion is by selling assets that we don't think will present great growth opportunities for us going forward. I think that's one of the reasons why I’ve been so aggressive in pushing the sales of some of these assets in the last couple of quarters and would continue to do so. So I think from a balance sheet stand point, I think one of the operating predicates is that we’re not going to leverage up the balance sheet. We do think that now is a good time to continue to push our disposition program. We will continue to ferret out opportunities to try and grow the NAV of the company and that’s part of our business plan, but certainly to the extent that we don't find those opportunities that we think are valuable from an NAV and from a growth standpoint, I don't think you'll see us proceeding with this.

Brendan Maiorana

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana with Wells Fargo

I mean are those opportunities, I mean is it more important to protect the balance sheet and the ratios as opposed to maybe finding, if you found a good acquisition opportunity that was out there, but that could be accretive to NAV, but it might hurt the balance sheet, would you be less willing to do that or unwilling to do that investment?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana with Wells Fargo

I think we’ve said that in the past, and that’s what we say on every call, that a driving predicate of our company's business plan is continuing to lower leverage.

Brendan Maiorana

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana with Wells Fargo

And then just a quick one for Tom or George. So the CAD reduction, again and I think you guys said that you’re doing more early renewals or 16 renewals, but it look like the spec leasing square footage was about unchanged in terms of leasing and your PI dollars are kind of unchanged, so I was sort of unclear as to how the recent reduction CAD would come about given that it looks like the leasing plan is sort of the same as it was before?

George Johnstone

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana with Wells Fargo

Yeah, I think it has more to do Brendan with the 2016 and beyond renewals coming into 2015 than it does with 2015 leasing capital from either a volume or pricing perspective increasing.

Brendan Maiorana

Analyst · Brendan Maiorana with Wells Fargo

Okay. Alright. Great, thank you.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Jamie Feldman with Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Jamie Feldman

Analyst · Jamie Feldman with Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Great. Thank you, good morning. I guess my first question is sticking with the sensitivity of guidance to acquisitions. Can you guys talks us through, you know if you weren’t able to execute on some of these acquisitions that are in the guidance what you think it would do to your range?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Jamie Feldman with Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Yeah, look I think our guidance range is predicated low end to high end on meeting our acquisition guidance or not meeting it, so I mean, Tom amplify if I’m wrong, but I think the expectations, we don’t meet our guidance on acquisitions were $1.40.

Tom Wirth

Analyst · Jamie Feldman with Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Right, I think we're still looking at the low-end of our guidance if we don't get those acquisitions done.

Jamie Feldman

Analyst · Jamie Feldman with Bank of America Merrill Lynch

And then focusing on Washington D.C. and the land, just kind of bigger picture, Gerry, how are you thinking about expanding into the district itself and then what competitive advantage you think you may have in what is already a very competitive development and office market?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Jamie Feldman with Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Yes, Jamie. Well look, from a competitive advantage standpoint, we have an operating team that’s been in that marketplace for well over 20 years and has done a very good job, and continuing to build the Brandywine franchise, very extensive broker relationships, political contacts, relation with other development companies as evidenced by our transaction with the Shooshan organization, so we – but even given that that I think you’ve seen us move very pragmatically over the last several years and make sure that we find the right spot opportunities. I think in this particular piece of ground that we acquired from the acreage companies, we felt that, that submarket was poised for a higher level of growth and maybe some of the other submarkets in Washington. We certainly felt that our targeted return levels or achievable return levels on the ground up development were far is excess of what we can buy – or achieve from buying and earning asset. So I think from the an infrastructure standpoint, I think we have a lot of confidence in our team down there, we also have a lot of confidence in our company's philosophy and capacity to work with other development companies to get the right result for our company, again as evidenced by the transaction of 4040.

Jamie Feldman

Analyst · Jamie Feldman with Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. And I guess a follow up on that. I mean, what’s going to be different about operating in DC versus the suburbs? What do you think you’ll need to change?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Jamie Feldman with Bank of America Merrill Lynch

I’m sorry, I missed on following Jamie.

Jamie Feldman

Analyst · Jamie Feldman with Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Just to be more active in the actual within the district market as opposed to Northern Virginia?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Jamie Feldman with Bank of America Merrill Lynch

I think in terms of what we’ve been doing is actually spending a lot of time in the district looking in lot of opportunities. So I think that will continue. I think the – in year [ph] share, you don't see the evidence of all that work in mining effort because we haven't really gotten transactions across the table, primarily due to pricing and what we thought the forward growth rates were. But I think you’ll see us continue to be very aggressive in both operating within the broker network, the political network and that the co-development network in Washington D.C. in the district itself.

Jamie Feldman

Analyst · Jamie Feldman with Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. Alright. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Gabriel Hilmoe with Evercore ISI.

Gabriel Hilmoe

Analyst · Gabriel Hilmoe with Evercore ISI

Thanks. Good morning. Gerry just on 1900 Market, it sounds like Blue Cross maybe consolidating some space and taking a few floors there. I know Cozen hasn’t move out this year, but can you just talk about the timing of the Blue Cross lease when it comes in, given the redevelopment that’s going on there.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Gabriel Hilmoe with Evercore ISI

I sure can. I mean, look we do not really have a practice of announcing transactions till they’re actually completed and coordinated with our customer. The press release was a bit premature both in terms of timing and content. What I can tell you is the Independence Blue Cross and Brandywine are in a very constructive advanced discussions on trying to create a fairly large base of operations for Independence Blue Cross in the building, which – it’s across from their headquarters building, that transaction is well advanced and would expect that if successful we’ll be making a joint announcement in the next 30 to 45 days.

Gabriel Hilmoe

Analyst · Gabriel Hilmoe with Evercore ISI

Okay. And then just one more, just on 4040 Wilson with the garage essentially done, can you talk about a pipeline of activity there, just given George's comments feeling a little bit better. I know there aren't any serious deals right now, but how deep do you think the potential demand is for that site?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Gabriel Hilmoe with Evercore ISI

Well look, I mean the demand, I hate to say it’s almost a revolving door, but there seems to be an ongoing level of prospects that come through the property and the secret sauce is getting someone to really advance their discussions and tours and romancing to the point they actually get a lease done. But look, even as of yesterday our team met with a fairly large prospect, so there is good ongoing activity, I think the challenge that John Shooshan and his team and our team face is finding the right tenant, the right size, kick the building off at the right, at our pro forma rent. So I think we continue to be pleased with the work our partnership is doing in terms of sourcing activity, but I would say it’s fair to say the partnership is a bit frustrated, takes so long to get to decision points with the number of tenants. So activity pleased getting across the finish line, I think there's a level of frustration, but that's mitigated bit by the continual adding into the queue other prospects.

Gabriel Hilmoe

Analyst · Gabriel Hilmoe with Evercore ISI

Okay. Thank you.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Gabriel Hilmoe with Evercore ISI

You’re welcome.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Craig Mailman with KeyBanc.

Craig Mailman

Analyst · Craig Mailman with KeyBanc

Hey guys. Gerry, I was hoping you could talk a little bit more about FMC Tower and the leasing there. Last quarter it sounded like maybe we could get something signed by this quarter, just curious, have any of the prospects fallen out, that maybe you thought would hit this quarter or is it just taking longer to negotiate?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Craig Mailman with KeyBanc

I think more of the latter. I think we continue to see some very good constructive conversations, negotiations with folks in the pipeline. The same thing from Encino Trace and I think, look we certainly recognize that as we go into these earnings calls we want to make as many big leasing announcements as possible, unfortunately we don’t always control when tenants want to sign leases, but I would say that Craig for both FMC Tower and Encino Trace, we have a number of very good prospects. We are pleased with the level we’re seeing. We’re pleased with the content of those conversations. But it’s always hard to say we’ll have something done by next Tuesday. I think we’re – and Encino Trace we’re very confident, we’ll be getting some more things done in the very near term. With FMC some of these tenants are larger in scale, they take just longer to make decisions and I think FMC is articulated from the very beginning, that building is of such a scale that the real opportunity I think comes when tenants can actually start to see the building really start to rise, we can actually start to do some construction towards, that really accelerates the discussion, but we are very happy with the level of activity we’re seeing on both buildings as well as on 1900. So we’re mindful of the fact that we need to get those transactions across the finish line. We know they tend to be big bellwether events for our company, if you’re able to follow our company, so there is an ongoing sense of urgency to get some leases actually execute.

Craig Mailman

Analyst · Craig Mailman with KeyBanc

And then, you know in the past you’ve talked about FMC as a potential joint venture candidate. You guys go out and buy some projects for the backfill the development pipeline for future projects, is that still on the table as a potential transaction?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Craig Mailman with KeyBanc

Look, I think everything is on the table. I think we’re right now focused on improving our value proposition by finalizing the residential program, as well as the getting some more office leasing done. But certainly in this type of capital market place I think at least we are, I can’t speak for every company, but we should keep a lot of options on the table. I mean there's a lot of capital looking for very high-quality investments. So we’re not saying that we will do a JV on that project by any stretch, but we continue to entertain possibilities and our leverage position from a negotiating standpoint on discussions with FMC, particularly on the residential side seem to be getting better as we get closer to the delivery timeline.

Craig Mailman

Analyst · Craig Mailman with KeyBanc

And then just on the project you guys kind of bought this quarter. Where are you guys in the entitlement process in Philly and Austin, kind of how long is that going take?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Craig Mailman with KeyBanc

Well look, we anticipate probably about a year to get entitlements perfected, we do not need a zoning change on either one of those sites. So the entitlement process really is fairly streamlined and really just a matter of us finalizing what we want to build there, which was frankly a very key part of how we underwrote those assets. Both assets are income producing for the company today and really represent the land acquisitions with existing parking on them or generating income, I mean on the 618 Market Street project that's CMX five zoning, so it can do a fairly high density development. We underwrote that acquisition really on a land price per FAR foot, very similar we did down at the Colorado acquisition and Austin, Texas, so probably about a year to go through the approval process, but again, zoning is in place for both of those sites consistent with what we want to do. It’s a matter of us going through the design development process to finalize our approach what we want to build. And as I mentioned, key construct that what we’re doing there is making sure that we do in fact lock away FMC-Encino Trace 1900 and other leasing exposure frankly through the company, so we take a very balanced approach to taking one additional leasing versus through new developments.

Craig Mailman

Analyst · Craig Mailman with KeyBanc

Then just last quick one, how – you said you guys have some stuff in the acquisition pipeline, how much of the pipeline is projects like this that may be thrown off the current yield that are more kind of land place for future development versus longer-term core holdings?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Craig Mailman with KeyBanc

I don’t have a percentage for you Craig. But I mean, these are solid type of acquisitions for us where we can create a future growth opportunity, while we’re getting some income producing revenue from it. We’re certainly looking primarily for value-add acquisitions work through leasing and minor renovations we can move forward, but certainly want to preclude us from being opportunistic and how we look at other acquisitions whether it be earning sites like 618 and Colorado or other land acquisitions.

Craig Mailman

Analyst · Craig Mailman with KeyBanc

Great, thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jed Reagan with Green Street Advisor.

Jed Reagan

Analyst · Jed Reagan with Green Street Advisor

Hey good morning guys. So with the success you’ve had so far this year on the disposition program, just wondering if you’re considering increasing your target goals there, beyond the $180 million guidance. And then on the pricing execution, sounds like that’s coming on a little bit better-than-expected was that driven mostly by the Oakland sale, and just curious if you had a cap rate you could quote on that.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Jed Reagan with Green Street Advisor

Yeah, Jed. We have not raised our disposition target as of this call. We’re not precluding that we would not do that on our next call, but right now we have as I mentioned a number of transaction, we close some under near-term agreement, some under negotiation, so right now we’re really focused on getting all of the transactions that we have a high degree of visibility on, done by the end of the second quarter, at that point we’ll take a look as to whether it’s the time to reload. Look we had a number of assets in the pool of which Lake Murray was the largest that had cap rates in the 5% to 5.5% range, which I think was a key driver on pulling down our blended sale proceeds, blended cap rate on sale proceeds.

Jed Reagan

Analyst · Jed Reagan with Green Street Advisor

On the recent land acquisitions, just wondering if those are development opportunities, you’re kind of thinking about as potentials of this cycle or if you're really banking more for the next cycle, and then how much density do you think you can achieve specifically at the Philly CBD and Austin projects.

George Johnstone

Analyst · Jed Reagan with Green Street Advisor

Yeah, look I think given, follow up on Craig's observation, the zonings in place for these will commence the design development process and have these projects in a position where we are right to really aggressively market them probably in the next 12 to 18 months. So I’m sure how is this cycle, but I think from a risk assessment standpoint, we certainly given their existing uses, we’ve hedged our best by making sure that we have earning assets. In terms of the Philadelphia acquisition, you know we could essentially do 600,000 square feet plus mixed-use, but again we have not defined exactly what that is, we really bought that assets well located. It really is a very critical piece of real estate and what we hope will be a continued emergence of the market East Carter, which is primarily retail in many base, you saw the announcement by our local team at [indiscernible] the fashion outlet center of the gallery, which is going to be close to $570 million retail development along Market Street, there are a few other retail base projects underway, so Market East has a real opportunity to become a very viable contributing neighborhood to the continued success of Philadelphia. This asset sits right at the key intersection there, so we’re basically bought a garage, we’ll run it, we’ll improve operations, we know we have the zoning in place so we’ll be very optimistic both in terms of timing of what we want to do there as well as its ultimate use.

Jed Reagan

Analyst · Jed Reagan with Green Street Advisor

Okay. And then just real quick on Austin, how much density is possible there you think?

George Johnstone

Analyst · Jed Reagan with Green Street Advisor

We think there you can do a couple of hundred thousand square feet that office sizing will be predicated really upon the amount of structured parking we want to build. So we’re going through that assessment process right now.

Jed Reagan

Analyst · Jed Reagan with Green Street Advisor

Okay, thanks. And then just last one quickly, on DC, are you guys seeing attraction on net effective rents, it does sound like activity is picking up, but lease economics improving at all, or is it still too early for that.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Jed Reagan with Green Street Advisor

Well look, I think one of the things that George touched on, and I know we’ve had a lot of discussions there over the quarters of this; we made a conscious decision to invest a fair amount of money into our Dulles Corner development. What we saw on that was that positioning that product, there is a new product in the marketplace; we were able to effectively move rents from the mid-20s to the low 30s, with very much on pro forma confession packages and capital dollars allocated to each deal. So in our mind that was a clear example of our management teams acumen in kind of getting ahead of the vacancy curve there, using that period of time to invest money in the property and really dramatically change the NOI growth trajectory that property versus the Market and we frankly saw the same exact thing over in our Rockville Office Center over the Maryland 270 Carter. Not very different than frankly I think you’ll see Jed the results on the 1900 Market Street. So clearly, I think as we go through the buy or sell decision, when I say buy it means in terms of invest, in our existing asset base we very carefully look at what we think the incremental return boost would be on any asset that we are considering selling or repositioning. And to the extent that we don't believe we can get a very effective growth in rents out of a repositioning strategy, we tend to sell that asset, that’s the best as earlier as a non-economic and non-cultural growth generator for us.

Jed Reagan

Analyst · Jed Reagan with Green Street Advisor

Makes sense. Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Lewis with SunTrust.

Michael Lewis

Analyst · Michael Lewis with SunTrust

Thank you. Most of mine have been answered, so I’m just going to ask one, and it’s about managing development risk and exposure, so you bought a few sites recently and assuming those you do have demand and can go ahead with those this cycle what’s kind of your appetite for how big a pipeline you're comfortable with whether it's in terms of you know how many balls you could juggle at one time or you know kind of managing risk in terms of percentage of gross asset value or any other way you look at it?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Michael Lewis with SunTrust

Yeah, Michael. I thought I tried to touch on that earlier, but let me be clear. Where we are right now, which is the leasing activity at FMC, delivering Encino Trace leased, and locking away substantially the leasing exposure at 1919 Market, I mean that’s our, pretty much our appetite in terms of risk-based speculative leasing and development projects right now. So that's why number of these other projects fit in very nicely to that philosophy because they really won't be ready to be deployed and so we’ve already harvested the growth opportunities out of those three primary projects. So we don't view ourselves doing significant capital allocation to developments unless we tend to the existing exposure we have. And when we deploy money to future development we have significant levels of pre-leasing and a lot of visibility on the subsequent pipeline behind that anchor tenancy on new projects.

Michael Lewis

Analyst · Michael Lewis with SunTrust

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Bilerman with Citi.

Michael Bilerman

Analyst · Michael Bilerman with Citi

Good morning, Manny Korchman is on the phone with me as well. Gerry I wanted to follow-up on John Guinee's great question on the logo, and in the senses you're thinking about changing the logo in terms of who the company is and defining who the company is today, and as you think about your valuation and where the stock is, I’m just curious as you go through that exercise how much time you're spending in terms of a strategic review about what the company should be, and have you given thought about – you’ve seen a lot of REIT spinoffs and mergers and sales, I guess help me through whether there's any sort of discussion at all about a broader strategic look at the entity as you’re changing the logo?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Michael Bilerman with Citi

Well look, I think the board is always reviewing strategically where the company wants to go and that’s been a key predicate of how we've been really shifting the last several years into much more town center and urban-based company, so that really came at a strategic review of what we want the company's growth profile to be going forward. In a broader sense in that, we’re always constantly evaluating what’s happening in the capital markets, we certainly track everything that's going on from a capital market perspective, very mindful of the competitive capital market conditions both from the public and private space. So I would just tell you very clearly that this company is always looking down the road where we want to be, how we want to constitute ourselves, what we want our growth drivers to be and using that, always viewing that within the framework of what we think overall capital market conditions are.

Michael Bilerman

Analyst · Michael Bilerman with Citi

If you thought there was two w Brandywine’s within the entity what percentage would sort of the urban that you'd want to hold versus the other piece, whether it be suburban piece of suburban that you think could be weighing down your multiple or your cap rate disproportionately relative to your core urban type of portfolio?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Michael Bilerman with Citi

Yeah look, certainly we have targeted, we get almost 70% of our revenues today from urban and town center markets, and I think you just see us taking a look at our capital deployment approach, you're seeing much more dollars focused in those core areas. As a corollary, I think you’ve seen a tremendous decrease in our exposure to a number of markets that – we want to be careful because we’re trying to sell assets and their markets aren’t – they’re not dying on the vine but markets it from Brandywine's perspective don't necessarily generate the velocity of growth that we’re really looking, or the capacity to have the highest quality product going forward that meets today's and tomorrow's demand for tenant. So you’ll see – you’ve seen this exit very clearly a strategy where we significantly reduced our exposure to New Jersey down from a high of a 25% or 30% seven or eight years ago, to now where it’s well down below 4%. One of the sales that was part of our commentary, they complete exit from suburban Wilmington, Delaware, we continue to spin out of assets where we think we’ve harvested full value in California. So we are very much focused on getting our portfolio to have a growth trajectory and a composition that the capital marketplace with you is much more valuable and then the capital marketplace will decide what the best approach for us to take in terms of optimizing value to our shareholders is.

Michael Bilerman

Analyst · Michael Bilerman with Citi

Right, but I guess, do you sense any urgency to act in the near term, again as you go through this change of what your company looks like, do you feel like there is an urgency to potentially do something more strategically to advance those goals versus sort of just waiting it out and give where you’re trading?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Michael Bilerman with Citi

Well there is a always a sense of urgency I think, and whenever you're involved in an operating business. So there is – I mean from my perspective without urgency there is a sense of complacency and we certainly don’t have any complacency. I think one of the reasons we’ve really accelerated the dispositions this year or the fact that we view the market now is being incredibly right for buying a lot of properties you want to sell, both fueled by the wall of equity capital, the amount of money is been raised in both PE and funds, as well as those equity investors being augmented by very low interest rates, and ample bank financing. So I think that sense of urgency is incumbent upon any management team to make sure they take advantage of market windows and that's exactly we’re hoping to do here through our decision program.

Manny Korchman

Analyst · Michael Bilerman with Citi

Hey guys, its Manny Korchman here. If we look at the cap rate success versus expectations, what do you think was the driver of such a big spread between where you thought sales would happen and they did, was it a mix of buyers, was it a mix of assets, was it just conservative or faulty planning on your part?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Michael Bilerman with Citi

Well conservative and faulty aren’t necessarily the same, but I think we've always indicated we build our financial model based on an 8.5% disposition in cap market. I think if the market is same for the last couple of years we've delivered our sales below that cap rate. So I don't recall the exact number last year, but we were probably 100 basis points inside of our targeted disposition rate of 8.5%. So I the great success we've had thus far was really driven by the specific assets that the buyers wanted to buy. So we had a number of properties as I indicated to an earlier question that were in the – cap rates were in the 5% plus range that kind of skewed down the overall cap rate, but going forward we’re going to be maintaining our 8.5% cap rate assumption. I consider that conservative, not faulty, and we’ll see what the market brings in all those different dispositions.

Manny Korchman

Analyst · Michael Bilerman with Citi

Thanks Gerry.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Michael Bilerman with Citi

You’re welcome.

Operator

Operator

And there are no further questions at this time. I’d like to hand the conference over to Mr. Sweeney for any closing remarks.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Mizuho Securities

Great. Thank you very much for participating in this quarter's call. And we appreciate all the questions and the engagement, and we look forward to our second quarter call later this year. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And this concludes today’s conference call. You may now disconnect.