Ed Heffernan
Analyst · Eric Wasserstrom with Guggenheim Securities
Sure. To quote our fabulous President of Card Services, retail is not dead. Retail itself continues to grow, albeit a bit more modestly than it has in the past. But the overall category itself isn’t dead. 85% of sales are still taking place in the store. What’s happening is you’re having a reallocation of where – of who is getting those sales. And as we talked about, with the splintering of sort of department stores into their individual brands creating their own e-commerce sites to the Amazons of the world and the Wayfairs of the world and everything else, you’re seeing a redistribution take place, which is causing an upheaval. So on an aggregate basis, the pie is still growing. On an individual basis, it remains to be seen who the winners and losers are going to be. That being said, to your point, you’re dead on. There are a number of clients of ours who are being stressed right now. And traditionally, what happened in the past, as you mentioned, is that there’s some type of prepackaged bankruptcy or something like that, that takes place. Really, the last thing they want to do is shut down the sales pipeline. For us, you’ll remember, we don’t lose money if a retailer goes bankrupt. What we do lose, however, is we don’t have that growth the following – we don’t own that portfolio the following year. That just collects out. So from our perspective, the fewer that show stress, the better off we are. The more that shows stress, that just means we’re going to have to pedal the bike a little bit harder with a couple more names in the pipeline than we had before, which, I think, is our go-forward approach, frankly, is we’re going to need to sign another 2, 3 names a year above what we used to in the past to make up for that weakness. Fortunately, a lot of the marketing dollars continue to flow over to the data-driven marketing that we do. So you’ve got a push-pull going on.