Murray Auchincloss
Management
Great. Thanks, Josh. Thanks for the question. You're right, it was a challenging year for refining. The industry in the basins in which we are operating were probably bottom of cycle for margin and pricing. So I think that's an industry-wide issue that we're a part of as well. But of course, we had the outage in 1Q in Whiting as well, an electrical fault that tripped the plant. In 4Q itself, reliability was fine across the portfolio. We, of course, had a massive turnaround at Whiting. It was a huge program. We replaced the coker tops, which is an incredible effort by the teams. And so that obviously dramatically impacted the results in 4Q. As we look forward, we are confident that we will continue to improve the business. Gordon can talk about this in a few weeks' time when we talk through what we're doing to improve the refining business. We're focused on four things. First of all, getting plant reliability back to that 96%, making sure that we don't have material trips. Turnarounds are going well. Maintenance is going well, but we have to stick to it and make sure we hit that 96%, and Gordon and the team are laser-beam focused on that. Out of that then comes the ability to commercially optimize. When you have outages, you can't commercially optimize. So we think between getting back to 96% and steady operations, that then lets us start to optimize and earn more money. The third thing I'd say is there's a strong cost agenda across all of CMP, and that will really start to take root in refining in 2025. And last, we will have a year of much lower complexity TARs in '25 than '24. That should all take us back to profitability. And I think we feel confident in that. And again, in two weeks' time, Gordon can take you through those plans. On trading, it was an average year, a 4% year. Despite the lack of volatility on the oil and refined products side, I think you'll have seen some of that reported out of competitors about how much -- how far down they were. So the teams did well to make sure that we continue to hit that track record that we've had over the past 5 years. Now looking forward, refining margins started the year very bad in January. They're starting to uptick now as we move into TAR season globally. I think the RMMs are up a bit, and we're starting to see some volatility. So I think that's probably all I'll say, Josh, but we are laser-beam focused on it. We know we need to do better, and we will. Thanks for the question.