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Bragg Gaming Group Inc. (BRAG)

Q2 2021 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 11, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. And welcome to the Bragg Gaming Group Q2 2021 Conference Call. At this time, all participants’ lines are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker’s presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker Yaniv Spielberg. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Yaniv Spielberg

Analyst

Thanks, Elise. Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining our second quarter 2021 earnings conference call. I'm Yaniv Spielberg, Chief Strategy Officer for Bragg Gaming Group. I'll be hosting today's call, alongside my colleagues Ronen Kannor, our CFO, who will present the results; and our Chief Executive Officer, Richard Carter, who will comment on our H2 performance and give an update on the business. For the first time on this call, we will be presenting a Q2 presentation. So if you've not already done, so you can download our Q2 earnings call presentation from our website at bragg.games/investors. And on that, page you'll see Investors presentation. The presentation is called 2021 Second Quarter Earnings Presentation to follow the points that Richard and Ronan will walk you through. In this call, we'll review Bragg's financial and operating results for the second quarter of 2021. Following our prepared remarks, we'll open the conference call to question-and-answer period. I'll start the call with some brief cautionary remarks, regarding certain statements that may be made on this call. Certain statements made on this conference call and our responses to various questions may constitute forward-looking information, or future-oriented financial information within the meaning of applicable securities law, statements about expected growth, prospective results, strategic outlooks, and financial and operational expectations, opportunities and projections rely on a number of assumptions concerning future events, including market and economic conditions, business prospects or opportunities, future plans and strategies, technological developments, and anticipated events, trends, and regulatory changes that may be – that may affect the corporation and its subsidiaries and their respective customers and industries. While we believe these assumptions to be reasonable, they are subject to a number of risks uncertainties and other factors, many of which are outside the company's control in which could cause the actual results, performance or achievement of the company to be materially different. There can be no assurances that these assumptions or estimates are accurate but many of these expectations will prove accurate. For a complete discussion of these factors, please refer to our recently filed press release and other publicly available disclosure. I'd just like to remind the ones who haven't heard and just joined the call. So this time, we'll be presenting a Q2 press release. You can download the press release on our website Bragg B-R-A-G-G dot-game/investors. And under the Investors presentation you'll see 2021 Second Quarter Earnings Presentation. I'd like to turn the call now to our CFO, Ronen Kannor. Ronen? So I think that, we have a little bit of a problem at Ronen's connection. Just let me give us one second. Richard, do you want to take it and start with the rest of the presentation, and Ronen will join in a minute. He said that, he was cut off, so he's calling back.

Richard Carter

Analyst

Sure. Do you want me to start with my slides then?

Yaniv Spielberg

Analyst

Sure. Sure. We'll go back to the financials only, because Ronen was cut off from the call.

Richard Carter

Analyst

Okay. Good morning, everybody. So throughout the second quarter, we made meaningful progress with our strategic growth initiatives, including expanding existing customer relationships, building out a pipeline of premium in-house iGaming content and providing our content and offerings to new markets. These and other strategies are transforming Bragg into a leading global content focused B2B iGaming provider. Now before reviewing our strategic growth initiatives in more detail, I want to address the new iGaming regulatory regime in Germany. So following the new iGaming regulatory regime in Germany which became effective on July 1, this year revenue contributions from this market are expected to decline in the second half of 2021 and into 2022 compared to historical levels. Now the changes are fully unanticipated in Bragg's growth forecasts and are expected to be offset by strong growth in both new and existing markets as well as from new clients and from increased profit margins as a result of developing more proprietary content and from our acquisitions. In the first half of 2021, German revenue outperformed and represented 65% of total revenue, which has resulted in a higher base going into the July rule changes. Since those rule changes came into effect player behavior and invoice revenue has trended in line with our expectations. We have budgeted that monthly German revenue will bottom out in Q4 2021. Looking into 2022, we expect to launch additional new license clients in Germany coupled with launching new in-house developed casino content. There is also an expectation that the German regulator should start to address the unregulated offshore operators later in 2021, which should limit some of the offshore flow to unlicensed operators. However to be cautious, we are not assuming any recovery on the Q4 2021 run rate and anticipate German revenue to compromise approximately…

Ronen Kannor

Analyst

Yeah, yeah. Thank you Richard and good morning everyone, and apologies for the technical issue. I will start with slide number 3. Our revenue continued to grow in the second quarter and increasing by 27.6% up to €15.5 million. The key driver for growth derived from the gaming content segment and was driven organically by German facing customers alongside promising growth from European and rest of the world customers, which grew 20% sequentially and represented close to 40% of the total Q2 revenue. During the first half of 2021, the group launched approximately 20 customers, which has also lead to further growth and a continued improvement to the new customer pipeline for the following years. The wagering revenue generated by customers has increased rising by 15.9% to €3.8 billion as compared to €3.3 billion during the second quarter of 2020. We've also seen a 21% increase in this period using the Bragg games and content, which is up to €2.3 million from the €1.9 million last quarter. Both operational KPIs were in a positive direction. These strong growth numbers demonstrate strong demand stemming from our unique content portfolio and continue develop technological advancements. The gross profit increased by 37.5% to €7 million while improving the margin by three points to 45% as opposed to 42% last quarter. This is predominantly attributed to the shift in the proportion of revenue from the gains on content into the iGaming entertainment services, which were presented today 12% of our revenue that has no cost of growth impact. The group profitability continued to improve. The adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was up by 8.5% to €1.9 million with a margin of 12.3%. The margin decreased by 2.2 points mainly because of the group investment in challenging our technology, compliance and sales teams as part…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Thank you. Your first question comes from the line of Matthew Lee with Canaccord.

Matthew Lee

Analyst

Hi, guys. Congrats on good quarter. I just kind of wanted to talk about the acquisition strategy here. Can you maybe highlight your priorities in terms of targets? And if you feel like you have the adequate capital to capture the full acquisition opportunity right now.

Richard Carter

Analyst

Good morning. We've made a couple of acquisitions recently, which basically closes the hole that we had. So, as of right now, we are just integrating those into our portfolio, and we don't really still believe that we need to make any acquisitions near term. So we're quite happy with where we are, and I think we've got enough on our plate to manage in the sort of near term.

Matthew Lee

Analyst

Fair enough. But I mean if you're thinking about the content library and building the proprietary assets that you own, would that be possible to be supercharged by a couple of additional studio acquisitions, or is that not something in charge?

Ronen Kannor

Analyst

We can supercharge that and we're in the plans of putting that in place by adding a couple of games producers, which given our scalability and given the resources we've got in place. If we add one games producer, we could probably add 20 titles a year. So, if we have two or three games producers, we can turbocharge or supercharge our growth profile and obviously have something we're looking to do.

Richard Carter

Analyst

Of course, if we were to the right acquisitions out there, which is at the right price that we think add value then we would obviously look at that. But, I think with -- it has to be an acquisition that adds value to our business and improves our business. And I think, as we alluded to in this presentation, the performance of the Wild Streak games are the top percentiles of this industry. So, it's going to be quite difficult to find that type of acquisition. We've been very fortunate. So, we don't really want to be buying things that is dilutive to the underlying performance of what we're trying to win at which is at the premium end of the market.

Matthew Lee

Analyst

Right. And then maybe I could just clarify on the Canadian market. Is it fair to say that Bragg is going to be ready to go in terms of every province as iGaming gets liberalized?

Richard Carter

Analyst

Yes. Well, through this Spin acquisition, we’re obviously got British Columbia covered, obviously in the process and talking to other provinces. So -- and, obviously, if they pivot and regulate that, then they'd be well placed, but we're talking to the incumbent lotteries. And then, obviously, from an Ontario perspective, I think, we're well positioned. So, yes, is the answer to your question. I think we're well positioned to capture the opportunity in Canada.

Matthew Lee

Analyst

All right. Great. Thanks and congrats again.

Richard Carter

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Neal Gilmer with Haywood Securities.

Neal Gilmer

Analyst · Haywood Securities.

Yes. Good morning. Yes. Congrats on the quarter and appreciate the slides that you walked through, particularly, sort of, understanding the moving parts there with Germany and your revenue guidance. I guess, I wanted to touch on one thing -- or actually a couple of things. Number one is, your guidance -- your revenue guidance for 2022. I assume that includes the acquisition of Spin. I know you expect it to close in Q4. So I assume that that sort of factored in for the start. You made some comments that, what was in the press release, sort of, the EBITDA should be, sort of, similar to 2021. I guess, I was thinking, with the launch of all the games that you were talking about, I think you said 33 going into next year. Obviously, the contribution of Wild Streak into that. Surprises, now, a little bit of an opportunity for margins expansion next year, aside from what you walked through on sort of your plan to get to 2024. Can you just sort of help understand the reconciliation?

Richard Carter

Analyst · Haywood Securities.

Yes. I mean, obviously, as we go through next year, the plan is obviously to build out and establish a -- this content strategy. So we've assumed quite a bit of costs, specifically, on the technology side, which will then enable us to significantly ramp up in later years at much lower cost. So from that investment, if we were to take that out and yes, you'd have definitely a bit more of expansion. And obviously, we're also growing next year into a lot of these markets, the UK, Italy. So there's definitely a bit of costs that we need to put in to outgrow that. So as we go through next year, we'll look at that and hopefully come back with some more positive news around that level. But, yes, I mean, I think, what you're saying makes sense. But we just -- given its very early days and there's quite a few moving parts in terms of growth. And obviously, we want to -- this is not about next year. This is about 2023 and 2024. We really think, given the content we have, we have a real opportunity here to capture a sizable part of the market and we want to make sure that we lay that investment to be able to do that.

Neal Gilmer

Analyst · Haywood Securities.

Okay, great. That makes sense and helpful. I guess, my second question, then I'll pass on line. Just maybe digging a little bit further on some of your comments with respect to the German markets, what you put here is your expected impact or whatever. Is there a chance you're being overly conservative or you really think that that's sort of where things sort of trend out? So there's that one slide. I think, its slide six here, where you sort of have where it comes down to sort of flat lines in that Q4. It looks like a €0.5 million a month. Is that sort of the worst-case scenario? Is there a couple of different things that you think that might transpire that could be slightly more positive to the impact of the German business for you guys?

Richard Carter

Analyst · Haywood Securities.

Yes. We've, obviously -- given there are quite a few unknowns in terms of Germany, we've tried to be very conservative with how we've factored that into the business. But in terms of, what I'd tell you, in terms of what are the sort of moving parts, the key is obviously a huge part of the market is still being played offshore. So if, over the coming quarters, we start to see the regulator being a bit more aggressive, then that is the really big delta. And it's -- more of the market comes onshore, that's obviously going to significantly help with our growth there. So that's the big sort of unknown. And we've, sort of -- it's, obviously, difficult to predict when that will happen and if it will happen. So we've taken the view that that's not going to happen. Now, obviously, July has done very well and we'll have to see August looks good. So we'll have to see how that continues -- that trend continues. But, yes, I hope we're being conservative. But given that a lot of the market is still being played offshore, it's difficult to hide when the regulator will make any news, but -- and we've seen this in other markets across Europe, where significant demand in the market. If you look at Sweden people estimate like 30% or 40% is still offshore. The other obviously important bit in Germany is, still very, very early days. It's the summer. So I don't think operator has started to really spend a lot of money on marketing. So, I think as they get a bit more confident and if we start to see a bit more move back onshore, then I think, you should get some of our operators spending more money on marketing and that will obviously transpire into greater revenue for us. And then the other area obviously is that, we believe with the content we have and what -- and our understanding of the given market, we are going to release content into January next year. So that will hopefully also help us from a competitive market position. So there are quite a few sort of moving parts there and we try to be as conservative as possible to give ourselves some upside into next year, given the sort of unmanned, but we have to go with that.

Neal Gilmer

Analyst · Haywood Securities.

Fair enough. Thanks. Appreciate your insights on that. I’ll pass the line.

Richard Carter

Analyst · Haywood Securities.

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Adhir Kadve with Eight Capital.

Adhir Kadve

Analyst · Eight Capital.

Good morning guys. Congrats on the quarter. I just wanted to maybe touch on your customer pipeline. You said, you're going to be entering all these -- several new markets and you've obviously had a good strength of customer acquisitions. Can you maybe talk about, what's in the pipeline? I know last quarter you said that, several different customers in the pipeline. And maybe just speak to how they're converting and which markets maybe you see a more stronger entry into?

Richard Carter

Analyst · Eight Capital.

Sure. So, the pipeline, I think is significantly strengthening and it's strengthening based on the fact that, we now have market-leading content. And we're still going through the presentation and the road map. And the real drive in terms of sort of customer acquisition is going to occur over the next sort of three to four months. So -- but based on very early feedback and sort of very -- it's been very, very positive. So -- and you can see from Q1 and Q2. So, as we go through the second half of this year and obviously, as we go into more markets, we're naturally just going to add a lot more operators because these are virgin territory for us and there's obviously a lot of incumbent operators in these markets that we don't have relationships with. So, I think when we come back in the next quarter, I think we've been a bit of a stronger position and we'll give a bit more update on actually, what we've seen in terms of that pipeline. But from what I see right now, it's expanding significantly and I'm very optimistic about what conversion will get on that pipeline.

Adhir Kadve

Analyst · Eight Capital.

Okay. Great. Thank you. And then, I think last quarter you guys mentioned that you launched your first proprietary in-house consumer games with Oryx. And you said obviously, you have five more in the pipeline. Can you maybe speak on some of the early results from that one -- from the one game that you launched last quarter and kind of how you're going to use that for the five extra games that you're going to be adding this quarter?

Richard Carter

Analyst · Eight Capital.

Yes. I mean, the one thing I'd say is, since obviously we made the Wild Streak acquisition, the world has changed upside down. So we've got one of the best gaming designers in the world and access to some of the best mathematician. So, looking at their game right now versus what's coming down the pipe, it's not really comparable. Now, in terms of the performance of that game, it compared very favorably with the games we launched this year. So that's obviously exciting from that perspective. And then, the second game obviously performed better than that. And recently Doug Fallon who is the founder of Wild Streak has been overviewing the sort of upcoming games from the Oryx studio. So, you can't really compare on things because just in the recent game is -- basically just to give you an idea, I think over a three-week period, we reviewed it and I think changed the math model five times and some of the jackpot features. So it's a completely different proposition and game from what we're happy for. So -- but from that perspective, we're -- I'm pleasantly surprised with the performance given there it's our first two games. And I think with the oversight of Doug and his team you will see a material improvement in the next games coming.

Adhir Kadve

Analyst · Eight Capital.

Okay. That’s great. Thank you very much guys.

Richard Carter

Analyst · Eight Capital.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David McFadgen with Cormark Securities.

David McFadgen

Analyst · Cormark Securities.

Great. A couple of questions. Just first of all in Germany you talked about how a good portion of the market is still being served by offshore operators. I was wondering can you give us an idea of what you think the percentage of the market is right now that's offshore still?

Richard Carter

Analyst · Cormark Securities.

65%.

David McFadgen

Analyst · Cormark Securities.

Yes. Okay. And so that...

Richard Carter

Analyst · Cormark Securities.

Maybe a little bit more. And the reason why it's that high, if you think about the sort of 80/20 the really sort of profitable players or high rollers, they're all playing offshore. And so just disproportionately is a higher sort of proportion of the revenue which is offshore currently.

David McFadgen

Analyst · Cormark Securities.

So, we're going to need some action from the regulator to sell that? Is that going to be the primary driver to get that down?

Richard Carter

Analyst · Cormark Securities.

Well there's -- I think you've got -- there's a couple of things. There's the onshore regulated market which we expect to bottom out. I actually think it will grow considerably once operators start to market as new players come in. Remember what's happened overnight. You've gone from a market that had on a game an RTP sort of 94% 95%. Now those RTPs are down at 90%, 92%. So it's going to take some time to players to adapt to that new market. And I think it's too early for us to comment and I'll leave back to people that are much more qualified than me from an operator's perspective. We're sort of slightly pleasantly surprised of what we've seen so far but it's still very, very early days. Now -- so you have this offshore market which theoretically will probably continue for some time especially the high -- bigger high rollers. And then you've got this new market which people obviously adapt the new sort of world of this sort of different RTP and then slowly with more time as it goes by more innovations and games and then just the industry just growing from a marketing perspective onshore then hopefully, you should see some reasonable growth on the actual regulated marketplace. And over time, I guess what we've seen in other markets is that the offshore market will slowly decrease. But to get that big chunk back onshore given a 5.3% wagering tax, I think it would be an optimistic assumption.

David McFadgen

Analyst · Cormark Securities.

Okay. And then just in terms of the new markets -- I'm just looking at Slide 8 here. In terms of new markets, the Netherlands you announced a customer -- a very big customer that you're going to be dealing. And can you talk about any customers that you're going to be serving in the UK and Italy and Canada, or is it just too early right now?

Richard Carter

Analyst · Cormark Securities.

Not really. I think you can go through the relationships we have. And with quite a lot of the big operators in -- specifically in the UK, the big operators in Italy are all being incumbent operators. They don't -- and operate in multiple jurisdictions. So, we have a lot of relationships already with the UK operators that are operating in some of the markets where we focus. But I think we obviously applied for our license. We're still waiting for that. And once we get that I think it'll be prudent to just -- for that and then we'll talk about it. But clearly there's quite a bit of overlap with customers we have today in other markets that are in the UK. So I think we said it before there's not particularly a great deal of investment needed to sort of turn that on the UK. It's a little bit more in Italy.

David McFadgen

Analyst · Cormark Securities.

And then I guess in Canada we'll hear an announced about the deals that you've put in place?

Richard Carter

Analyst · Cormark Securities.

Well yes. I mean we've got the British Columbia deal which is a very nice deal, it’s a free spin. We'll have other -- they're talking to the other Wild Streaks. So we'd expect more of the other Wild Streaks to follow. And then the ORYX I was reading came out in the last few days. So we've been going through that. And then I think operators will -- should start to be ready at sort of Q4-ish -- late Q4. And yes and you'll hear us around that. And given our the Wild Streak business and obviously given how well those games perform LAN-based we're very optimistic about that content and that really resonating in the Canadian market. I mean just an example Dragon Power, which is a game that Wild Streak launched as a top-performing game in New Jersey in a month in month out continues to be performing very, very strongly. So we've got a lot of confidence that the content we have will really resonate in the Canadian market and create a really sizable new earning stream for the company.

David McFadgen

Analyst · Cormark Securities.

Okay. And then just on that -- just on Slide 8 you talked about the 2021 pipeline. So existing customers in various markets for fast to grow in growth rate 10%. Is that the -- is the primary driver there is them taking more of your gains? Is that -- I'm just wondering ….

Richard Carter

Analyst · Cormark Securities.

Tell again. Sorry?

David McFadgen

Analyst · Cormark Securities.

Is the primary driver for these existing customers to grow 10% in the 2021 pipeline is that from them taking more gains from you and just using more of your content or more in market?

Richard Carter

Analyst · Cormark Securities.

Yes. It's a combination of -- yes different things obviously then growing the business then growing our games. If you look at most markets most operators are growing 10% to 15% given in the market. So the bringing new operators in we're going to play your content. And then there's also now and then of some new existing content and the new content. So it's a combination. Predominantly there's just the underlying market growth.

David McFadgen

Analyst · Cormark Securities.

Okay. All right. Thanks for the slide deck it's very helpful. Thank you.

Richard Carter

Analyst · Cormark Securities.

All right. Thanks

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Lisa Thompson with Zacks Investment.

Lisa Thompson

Analyst · Zacks Investment.

Good morning.

Richard Carter

Analyst · Zacks Investment.

Good morning.

Lisa Thompson

Analyst · Zacks Investment.

I have a few questions about what you're thinking about next year. Do you have any feel what your revenue breakdown might be between North America and Europe by 2022?

Richard Carter

Analyst · Zacks Investment.

I do but I don't really want to get into that level of detail right now. But clearly I think we've given some guidance on Wild Streak and a good chunk of that is going to be US and North America. But we'll update on that probably late in the year. I don't get drawn on dissected the market.

Lisa Thompson

Analyst · Zacks Investment.

Okay. And should -- does there any significant difference in gross margins between the two geographies, or is it just based on how many of your proprietary games for Europe?

Richard Carter

Analyst · Zacks Investment.

I mean yes it depends obviously is there any difference between gross profit margins in the US and Europe? Not materially. I think you could probably argue there's probably -- we can probably -- we get more scalability in Europe and the rest of the world because you don't -- it's not the same processes. And obviously, the US. is shift at the moment in four smaller markets but it's not material.

Lisa Thompson

Analyst · Zacks Investment.

Okay. Do you anticipate that maybe your top 10 customers might not be the same top 10 next year?

Richard Carter

Analyst · Zacks Investment.

Yes. Definitely.

Lisa Thompson

Analyst · Zacks Investment.

Okay. And just as trying to relate to your proprietary games as the old video game analysts is there a possibility to kind of like breakout games that are widely profitable and popular?

Richard Carter

Analyst · Zacks Investment.

There is. Obviously, and we're hoping we get that. We're not assuming that. We've taken extremely conservative assumptions around that because it's very difficult to sort of forecast that. But if the games in the US are anywhere near the same level as Dragon Power then we're massively underestimating the performance of our games. If the games are going to be anywhere near like the games that have been launched so far on pragmatic, again, we're significantly underestimating. And it's very, very difficult. You can talk to all the content studios, it's very difficult to predict. I speak to all these entrepreneurs that run these studios and they can't tell you if the game is really going to be a breakout game. They can tell you if it's going to be a good game. So, yes, I mean it's very, very difficult to predict a breakout game. But I mean as a business we need to provide a consistent level of performance to our partners. And if we're able to just do that then that just will materially strengthen our relationships and that will allow us to grow and be incredibly profitable business. If we obviously were able to get a hit then obviously that would have a halo effect as well and that will just obviously lead to the advantages of having that. So, in terms of just publicity and obviously, underlying performance from my team, but it's about consistency rather than having a one-hit wonder. We want to be in a position where we ramp up into 2023 and 2024 and our going to just consistently performing, which is what's been the case with the Wild Streak games over the last year.

Lisa Thompson

Analyst · Zacks Investment.

In your industry, do you have the opportunity or the to like say license things characters or on the opposite side get ad revenue you should incorporate -- gain for some hit movie or something, is that a thing?

Richard Carter

Analyst · Zacks Investment.

Yes. So, in the last three weeks, we've been having conversations with third-parties and looking at brand licensing. So, a lot of the major LAN-based operators specifically in the US, we'll tend to have a portfolio -- brand licensing portfolio. Sci-games as James Bond and IGT has its brand licensing and how --. And it's similar in the online space and so yes, we're currently looking at those options. And I think we will probably definitely look to have some branded content over the medium term.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Daniel Weiss with MCO [ph].

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi Richard, how are you doing?

Richard Carter

Analyst

Yes, good. thanks.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I'm just wondering if you can give the update on the NASDAQ question, any color there?

Richard Carter

Analyst

Well, not really. I mean the color is we've put in the presentation. I mean Yaniv do you want to talk about where we are with it?

Yaniv Spielberg

Analyst

Yes. Thanks. It's just a procedural process. As Richard said Daniel, it's -- the paperwork has all been filed with the regulators. It's just a waiting game now. It's obviously hard to say how long is the wait game because it's regulators, but we're confident as we said in our last press release that it will happen soon. So, we're just waiting to get the approvals.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Peter Riley with [Indiscernible]. Peter, your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes, good afternoon. Just a final question from me, and most of my questions have been answered. Just on the competitive landscape for acquisition target like Wild Streak and Spin. Can you maybe just talk to us how competitive is that market out there?

Richard Carter

Analyst

Sure. Well, I think it's got a lot more competitive in the last three or four months. I think you're starting to see more people sort of looking at the sort of strategy that we've been putting in place. [Indiscernible]. And there's no doubt that the valuations on these businesses are definitely increasing. So we've been very fortunate that we're able to do the acquisitions when we did them and we're also very fortunate that we have the technology and the infrastructure to significantly scale up our business. We're just adding a few more mathematicians and a few more game producers. We don't need to go out now and pay the sort of prices that people are asking for. But there are still opportunities out there and I think one of the advantages that we bring is that obviously we will -- we are obviously pivoting to list on the NASDAQ and just having that equity angle. And obviously, the two deals we've done so far are very significant proportion of those two deals. The two founders took equity. And obviously, they believe in the long-term combination of the businesses. So definitely, a bit more competition. I think there's definitely a bit more people sort of circling and looking at casino content. And I'm sure you've all seen the DraftKings, Golden Nugget and I think -- and also the commentary around casino and the profitability of casino and the growth that it offers. So I think it's definitely a bit of a hot space. And yeah, it's a little bit of that. Hope that answers your question.

Operator

Operator

At this time, there are no further questions. I will now turn the call back over to management for any closing remarks.

Yaniv Spielberg

Analyst

Thank you everyone for joining the call. I hope we answered all your questions. And of course, as always, if there's any questions remaining you can always reach us at info@bragg.games. Thanks everyone and enjoy the rest of the day.

Richard Carter

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's conference. We thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.