Darcy Davenport
Analyst · William Blair
Yes. I mean it's a great question. I think that we're seeing it right now, obviously, we're seeing brands that are not making the thresholds. I think what -- I think I would zoom out a little bit. So I think the reason why even in Steve's very first question, just about our view of the category these insurgent and kind of crossover brands, they're getting a lot of attention. They only represent 10% of the category, and there are a lot of them. So -- and I think that remembering, and I think that what is important is where the growth is coming from, it's coming from the leading brands, bringing in more households and then also sourcing volume from those declining legacy brands, which are not insignificant. 30% of the market share is in these kind of declining legacy brands. So what's happening is that, yes, there's going to be some churn in the insurgent kind of crossover brands. Some are going to make it, some of them not. There's always going to be new news. It's an exciting category. I mean you see it in energy. There's always like this group that kind of starts turning. But like if you zoom out the leading brands, which have established, which has -- they have high -- let's just talk about Premier, #1 household penetration, #1 repeat, national supply chain that we've built over years and years and years. We have -- we're now invested, we have capacity. We're now investing in the brand, we're leaning in, we're partnering with retailers to figure out where in the store that this category should be, and how it should be merchandised, and how to maximize it. They're choosing us to do that. So the leading brands are just going to -- they're going to keep on winning. There's going to be churn around the insurgent brands. And then the legacy brands are going to be the ones, I think, that continue to be -- they have been shared donors for years, and they're going to -- and that is just -- it's kind of accelerating. So your question around how long is it going to take? I mean, I think there's going to always be this kind of churn of insurgent brands. And I think it's an exciting category. We watch it for sure. But I think that there will -- I think the focus in my mind is -- and they're actually sourcing some volume from the declining legacy brands. So -- but I think the focus is that we definitely expect there to be a consolidation and the most successful brands are the ones that are going to really propel forward.