Welcome to the Braze Fiscal Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Leila, and I'll be your operator for today's call. At this time all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speakers’ presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. I'll now turn the call over to Christopher Ferris, Head of Braze Investor Relations.

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us today to review Braze's results for the fiscal fourth quarter 2025. I'm joined by our Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer; Bill Magnuson; and our Chief Financial Officer, Isabelle Winkles. We announced our results in our press release issued after the market closed today. Please refer to the Investor Relations section of our website at investors.braze.com for more information and a set of presentation related to today's earnings announcement. During this call, we will make statements related to our business that are forward-looking under federal securities laws and the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements include, but are not limited to, statements regarding our financial outlook for the first quarter and fiscal year ended January 31, 2026, the anticipated closing of benefits from product advancements due to our anticipated acquisition of Offerfit, our expectations concerning new customer verticals, our anticipated customer behaviors, including vendor consolidation and replacement trends and their impact on Braze, our potential market opportunity and our ability to effectively execute on such opportunity and our long-term financial targets and goals. These statements are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations and reflect our views only as of today. We assume no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. For a discussion of material risks and uncertainties that could affect our actual results, please refer to the risks identified in today's press release and our SEC filings, both available on the Investor Relations section of our website. I'd also like to remind you that today's call will include certain non-GAAP financial measures used by management to evaluate our ongoing operations and to aid investors in further understanding the company's fiscal fourth quarter 2025 performance in addition to the impact these items have on the financial results. Please refer to the reconciliations of our non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable financial measures calculated in accordance with U.S. GAAP included in our earnings release under the Investor Relations section of our website. The non-GAAP financial measures provided should not be considered as a substitute for or superior to the measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with U.S. GAAP. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to Bill.

Thank you, Chris, and good afternoon, everyone. We delivered strong fourth quarter results, generating $160.4 million of revenue, up 22% year-over-year and 5% from the prior quarter, again demonstrating the high ROI and long-term value of the Braze Customer Engagement Platform, along with the strong execution of our teams around the world. We drove continued efficiency across our business, recognizing nearly $8 million of non-GAAP operating income in the quarter and achieving a non-GAAP operating margin of 5.0%, up from negative 5.7% in the fourth quarter of last year. We also achieved our third straight quarter of non-GAAP net income profitability, generating over $12 million of net income and over $15 million of free cash flow. Our financial results for the full year demonstrated impressive operating leverage, including $18 million of non-GAAP net income, nearly $20 million of free cash flow and an 850 basis point improvement in non-GAAP operating income margin, which combines with last year's efficiency efforts to represent a nearly 20 percentage point improvement over the last two fiscal years. As previously discussed, we expect to generate positive quarterly non-GAAP operating income and free cash flow going forward. We are proud of these financial achievements as we continue on our journey to become the leading customer engagement platform globally, and we look forward to sustaining profitable growth in the coming quarters and years while also thoughtfully reinvesting to grow our business. We previously highlighted the legacy vendor replacement cycle and point solution consolidation trends, and we continue to capitalize on those in the fourth quarter, securing a diverse set of new business wins where Braze is replacing legacy marketing clouds, including a U.S. fintech, a large U.S. retailer, an energy company in EMEA and a ticket broker in APAC, just to name a few. We also continue…

Thank you, Bill, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. As Bill stated, we reported a strong fourth quarter with revenue increasing 22% year-over-year to $160.4 million, driven by a combination of existing customer contract extensions, renewals and new business. Subscription revenue remains the primary component of our total top line, contributing 96% of our fourth quarter revenue, while the remaining 4% represents a combination of recurring professional services and onetime configuration and onboarding fees. Total customer count increased 12% year-over-year to 2,296 customers as of January 31, up 252 from the same period last year and up 85 from the prior quarter. Our total number of large customers, which we define as those spending at least $500,000 annually, grew 22% year-over-year to 247. And as of January 31 contributed 62% to our total ARR. This compares to a 60% contribution as of the same quarter last year. Measured across all customers, dollar-based net retention was 111%, while dollar-based net retention for our large customers was 114%. expansion then broadly distributed across industries and geographic regions. Revenue outside the U.S. contributed 45% to our total revenue in the fourth quarter, consistent with the prior quarter of this year and up 100 basis points from 44% in the prior year quarter. In the fourth quarter, our total remaining performance obligation was $793 million, up 24% year-over-year and up 11% sequentially. Current RPO was $505 million, up 23% year-over-year and up 10% sequentially. The year-over-year increases were driven by contract renewals and upsells and the signing of new customer contracts. Overall, our dollar-weighted contract length remains at just over 2 years. Non-GAAP gross profit in the quarter was $112 million, representing a non-GAAP gross margin of 69.9%. This compares to a non-GAAP gross profit of $89 million and non-GAAP gross margin…

We will now begin the Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Ryan MacWilliams with Barclays. Please unmute your audio and ask your question.

Hey, congrats on the quarter and congrats on miles on a great run. Bill, glad to see the Braze technical brand [indiscernible] this week, along with today's announcement of the OfferFit acquisition. I'd love to hear more about what OfferFit could add to your platform? And how do you envision AI agents improving marketing campaign for your customers in the near future? I have one follow-up. Thanks.

Yes, of course. So I think I'll just start at the top and break down the two major components that I think are necessary to understand the synergies behind this deal and the logic behind it and why we're so excited about it. So first, when you look at OfferFit's existing full product offering, which they've been scaling and improving upon for the last 4.5 years, it excels specifically at generating maximum uplift in scenarios where even small differences in performance can translate into massive ROI for their customers. Now like Palantir, the openness and the configurability of the OfferFit system does lead to a requirement for expert assistance from their forward deployed machine learning implementation engineers. And that is heavier upfront, of course, through initial implementation. And then as the agents need monitoring or maintenance over time, as the customer base changes or as performance starts to drift, et cetera, those expert teams are there to ensure that, that maximum performance continues to be delivered. And it achieves that uplift to a degree that is previously only possible with massive proprietary in-house data science investments or into machine learning teams or other bespoke services engagements that come at much higher price tags. And so we're really excited about what that means for the high end of the market, looking at our enterprise and our global strategic accounts categories in particular as well as other high-scale B2C companies as they're scaling. We also, though, believe that even as Frontier AI technology continues to advance that there's always going to be use cases where achieving that maximum performance is worth that meaningful incremental investment. And they've built a capability to provide that to the top end of the market in a highly scalable fashion with an attractive gross margin. But we also believe that the underlying technology, the OfferFit engine can be tuned and constrained to particular use cases to remove that need for the expert services attachment, while still achieving meaningful performance uplift across a wide array of life cycle marketing goals. And so we're really excited in addition to continuing to build and scale the existing OfferFit full product to work alongside their expert R&D teams to find new places to deploy their engine that's going to be able to solve new use cases for customers as well as enhance existing aspects of both BrazeAI and the testing and personalization space and to extend the future capabilities of Project Catalyst.

Excellent. And then for Isabelle, really tough time for CFOs at this point due to the shifting macro. Any adjustments to your normal guidance philosophy given the macro? And any color on what in quarter net retention look like for the fourth quarter? Thanks.

Yes. Thanks. So I would say, look, we've been living in this macro disruption and evolving environment for the last several years. So we're -- we've sort of become used to the change is a bit of the new normal. I would say that when we went into last year's guide, I talked about being a little closer to the pin, I think that philosophy will be maintained in this context. So look for that to continue as a mantra that we espouse. And then on the in-quarter DBNR, look, I think the way to think about dollar-based net retention, it's very sensitive, obviously, to the evolution of new business versus upsell. And actually, as you heard Bill and I say in some of our prepared remarks, we're very satisfied and very pleased with the evolution of the new business strength in Q4 and some of the momentum there. We're really focused actually on the total impact on revenue growth, and I made some comments last quarter about revenue growth inflecting ahead of dollar-based net retention. And we stand by the comment going into this year. And so we're really excited about the overall momentum on the business.

Thanks so much.

Our next question will come from the line of Arjun Bhatia with William Blair. Please go ahead.

Yes. Perfect. Thank you and congrats on a nice close to the year. Bill, maybe first for you. You mentioned something in your prepared remarks that kind of stuck out. I think you've raised it as the next level of personalization beyond right message, right channel, right time, I don't know if that was specifically addressed to Offerfit that something Braze kind of do in general. But what is that next frontier personalization? And how does it maybe change the nature of the messages, if at all, that you're sending to your customers beyond kind of traditional marketing oriented messages? And then I have a follow-up there.

Yes. So I think that there's -- it's important to think about all this on a spectrum. And there's a few different ways to organize that spectrum. There's manual AB testing and testing and instrumentation, which has obviously been possible on a lot of platforms for a long time. And that does drive optimal -- it drives higher results and more relevance and personalization for customers. Then you start to get to more automated experimentation like we've included in personalized path in Canvas, and we've spoken about the past and that's using advanced machine learning tactics in order to do more than just trying to optimize little bits of content, but actually look at a lot of the decisions that are made across cross-channel journey that's communicating across different outgoing channels as well as modifying product experiences and experimenting with different things like cadence and tone and what have you. And then as we continue down that spectrum, we get to Project Catalyst, which is obviously working to encapsulate not just that experimentation and the automation around it, but also automate more of the generation around the different experiment variants and expand the scope of what the automated experimentation is able to make decisions on. And then as we get further down and go back to some of the topics that I was just discussing in response to Ryan's question, where you're looking at fully customizable models and applying them in place in a small differences in performance can lead to outsized outcomes. And you see that in a lot of places where there's either really high-value actions or there's really expensive downside scenarios to avoid. Or you're just operating at large enough scale that even basis points improvement translates into really big dollars in ROI. And I think that…

Okay. Very that's helpful. Thank you. And then one quick one just on customer cohorts. I'm curious what you're seeing in terms of just expansion trends from some of the newer customer towards that you won, whether that's greenfield point solution replacements your legacy providers. It seems like new has been pretty strong. But when those customers are coming up for renewal, are you seeing expansion levels so that are better than that surf cohort? And has that magnitude kind of changed at all from the 9 points that we talked about at Analyst Day [indiscernible]?

Yes. So in the -- since we announced that sort of 9 percentage point differential between those two cohorts, that has continued to trend in a positive direction. So we're not going to kind of continue to disclose that differential, but it has continued to be that post deserve cohorts are performing better than the [indiscernible] cohorts. So that trend continues.

All right. Perfect. Helpful. Thank you.

Our next question comes from the line of DJ Hynes with Canaccord.

Hey, thank you, guys. Bill, maybe we could go back to -- or stick on the thread of OfferFit for a second. Look, you explained the technology and the value prop very clearly. Maybe just speak to the business outcomes a little bit that you see for your customers that are already using OfferFit today? Like do they send more messages? Is it just that the messages are more effective? Can they create content faster? Just help me understand kind of how it translates from a revenue perspective to what Braze might actually see as you kind of push Offerfit more broadly across the customer base?

Yes. So I think that in terms of the performance that you see, what you should expect is enhanced relevant. And so there are parts of the OfferFit that include automatic content generation. Those are very similar to the assistance and the helpers that are in the Braze composers today. And in fact, the Braze Composer suite and the GenAI assistance that accompany them are actually ahead of OfferFit today, and we're excited to be able to focus their R&D where they've been specialized and have them be able to draft off of a lot of the other things that Braze built around [indiscernible], inclusive of things like porting and those composers and the Braze data platform and our enterprise permissioning and just a lot of the other things that we've built along the way that they'll be able to benefit from and accelerate with. I think also when you look at the number of messages sent, we don't expect that to materially change, although there are great examples where when OfferFit works with Braze customers in particular, they often will start out optimizing for a single channel, but because of Braze cross-channel capability and the ease with which you can move strategies from channel to channel on Braze, it has promoted in our customers in the past, then expanding those OfferFit use cases other Braze channels. And so that's been really great to see, and we certainly hope to continue to see that trend continue as that makes our customers stickier and helps with them upsell and cross-sell across the board. We -- and I think also, the key differentiator when you think about the business impact in terms of what we sell and how we sell it, I think it's that OfferFit because of the demonstrable performance uplift and really the focus on going into these extremely high-value use cases has -- is in an extremely good position to value sell. They show incredible levels of ROI for their customers when they deploy. They're able to maintain those high levels of performance through the attach of those machine learning implementation engineers. And they're doing it at a value and scalability level that maintains really attractive gross margin despite the attachment of those expert services to the software offering that they're deploying.

Yes. Okay. Very clear. And then Isabelle, what is the mix of cash and stock in that $325 million?

Yes. So it's 42% equity and the balance is cash.

Okay, perfect. Thank you, guys.

Our next question will come from the line of Gabriela Borges with Goldman Sachs. Please goa ahead.

Hi. Good afternoon. Thank you. Bill, there's a little bit of a debate in the market right now on the advantages of being a SaaS native company versus an AI-native company. And you're Saas-native company acquiring an AI company. So help us understand why could you not build this in-house? And what were the limiting factors to OfferFit being able to scale or being able to scale without agreeing to be acquired by Braze? Thank you.

So I don't think in either of these cases, this was a can't. Both teams have highly capable engineering and product groups with really great R&D capability and are on great trajectories. But when we look at the synergies that we'll be able to achieve and the way that we'll be able to complement each other based off of where both kind of a combination of where focus areas and also where comprehensiveness has been in the past, we think that it's going to be a really fantastic coming together of the expertise and the experience that the OfferFit primarily data science focused offering has had in the field, the work that they've done, much of which was with roughly about -- I referenced this in the prepared remarks, but almost one-third of their existing customers already work with Braze. And so it's something where we knew them well as a partner, we could see the synergies that we'll be able to achieve together, we can see the improved customer outcomes that come out of us working together. And we think that together, we can both move faster.

That makes sense. The follow-up is for Isabelle, specifically on demand trends that you've seen in the last several weeks. There has been so many mixed data points, whether it's on the consumer spending side or more broadly with uncertainty types of the new administration. Have you seen any change in your leading indicators as it pertains to your customers willing to spend in the last several weeks?

So nothing specific in the last several weeks. We do recognize that the evolving global trends, and specifically, as you mentioned, around some of the tactics of the new administration are going to create some challenges for some of our customers and our prospects. But as we think about how pipeline is evolving, how pipeline is behaving, the trends of whether it's linearity or just amounts of closed one through Q1 so far, there's nothing that we're seeing that gives us pause on the immediate trends.

Yes. I'd also just add that on the technical side, we've obviously been anticipating national data sovereignty concerns continuing to rise in importance for a whole bunch of reasons, which is why we've been expanding our data center footprint, which now includes options in the U.S., the EU and Australia. We've got Indonesia launching relatively soon, and we'll have more regions to follow. And so preparing ourselves in a variety of ways. I think that the trend line of a lot of these things has certainly accelerated more recently, but it's pointed in a similar direction as it has been for years, and we've been preparing for it.

Thanks you, both for the detail.

Our next question comes from Brent Bracelin with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Thank you for taking the question here. I want to stick with the macro. A little surprise given retail and consumer goods are the largest vertical for you. You still have a strong RPO backlog build in the quarter. I think bookings looks like it actually slightly accelerated. Bill, could you just talk about the feedback from retail and consumer goods companies in light of tariffs and uncertainty there? Is it cost that they're leaning into Braze? Is it rigidity of old legacy platforms and they need to be more flexible? Walk us through what's resonating in increasingly mixed environment. Then Isabelle, if you could just touch on net new logo growth here as were the highest 1.5 years. What drove that strength?

Yes. So a few things. First, I'll point you back to the high level of diversification that we have in the business. It is our largest category, but it's also still roughly only about a fit. And so in a given environment, I think we've had a strong ability to be able to leverage our diversification both around the globe as well as across categories in order to continue to push ahead in new business even as certain areas of the world or parts of the market have been impacted. I think also one of the things that we've learned over the last couple of years, in particular, when we're looking at the enterprise segment, is that these enterprise replacement cycles are stickier and longer term and more considered than a lot of the short term noise that we look at. It's -- we can hear some of the short-term responses to a lot of the things that were happening recently with tariffs and there's concerns about costs and there's things like that. There's been versions of that happening as inflation and currency strength has ebbed and flowed over the course of the last couple of years. But I think that some of the things that underlie a lot of the legacy replacement cycles tend to be tied more to long-term contract lengths of those legacy marketing cloud deployments, the budget cycles, the teams coming into play. There's RFPs being run for all of these replacements. And so those aren't things that just kind of waiver and get interrupted, week by week, they tend to be more longstanding. And definitely, a lot of the story of the last year and what we saw culminated in Q4 in the enterprise in particular, was that these deal cycles do continue to be…

And then, Brent, on your question on logo count, so I'll make three comments. So one, Q4 is generally a strong quarter for kind of tapping into new budgets and securing new logos. So that just generally, Q4 can be a helpful kind of seasonal quarter there. We did do better in this Q4 on logo churn, so that we had a little bit less of a headwind working against us. So really happy with how that played out. But -- and what I will say is there was nothing unnatural that happened in Q4 with regards to incentive structures or anything that would have driven like some sort of an odd onetime pop in additional logos. So this is very much kind of core business performance.

Helpful color, and I'll echo congrats to Myles on a great run.

Our next question will come from Brian Peterson with Raymond James.

So I appreciate all the commentary, and congrats on the OfferFit acquisition. You mentioned that with the deal, fiscal year 2026 will be a year that will be a deviation from that growth margin framework you outlined at the Analyst Day. Is that dynamic solely due to OfferFit or is there any organic investments that you're seeing or making because there's a product or growth opportunity? Would love to just get the perspective there. Thanks, guys.

Yes, thanks for the question. If you go back to my organic outlook for the year, so we did provide guidance both for the quarter and for the full year and you look at the non-GAAP operating income dollars and that the implication of the margin relative to the revenue outlook, that is consistent with the framework. So I did want to set that stage. The transaction has not closed yet, but we are indicating that once the transaction does close and we provide updated guidance, we do want to set the stage and flag to the market that there will be a deviation once we embed those costs.

And Isabelle, just on the acquisition, you mentioned a couple of points of revenue. Does that assume kind of the current run rate for OfferFit? Or are there any incremental cross-sell synergies embedded into that?

Yes. I mean that's obviously a bit of a -- it's a risk-adjusted number. So we're -- I think these acquisitions, we want to be judicious about kind of how quickly we try to sort of achieve that and we want to certainly get as much out of this transaction as possible as quickly as possible and be very successful, but we're obviously risk-adjusting that number. So for now, that is, in fact, just a run rate number for them.

Understood. Thank you.

Our next question comes from Derrick Wood with TD Cowen.

Great. Thanks. Bill, can you just give us a sense as to what organizational changes have transpired since Myles announced his intention to step down and how we should be thinking about the time line of bringing on a CRO? And I guess since this is in Q1, are there any notable go-to-market changes that you're making that you would flag?

Yes. So first of all, the search is going well, and I've been really happy with our field team's execution during this transition period so far through Q1. As we updated you guys on throughout last year, the last six quarters have brought in a lot of new field leaders around the world. And we've got great global leaders across our partnership sales and post sales groups who are long-tenured Braze leaders who are in place and they presently report directly to me. But other than some of the changes that we spoke about throughout the year last year, there were no other major changes other than that reporting -- those reporting lines switching from Myles to me as we began the year. Within that search, we're looking for a world-class executive to take on the CRO role who's going to help bring us to the next level. We're really focused on reachieving Rule 40 efficiency, scaling too and then well beyond $1 billion in ARR, continuing to grow into the globally recognized leader in customer engagement. And we're just really focused on finding the leader across those field teams to set to help us do that. As for timing, we're in market right now. Candidate flow has been great. It's definitely a highly sought after role and definitely a seat that Myles really shaped really well over the course of a decade and one that we've got a lot of really robust candidate flow that's excited for the opportunity to step into that.

Great. If I could squeeze one in, a follow-up. Just on -- a few quarters ago, you talked about Meta potentially changing pricing strategy with WhatsApp, I don't know, is there any update to call out there? I know it could have some impact on kind of the P&L for you guys. Just wondering if you see anything down the pipe.

Yes. It's a good question. We continue to partner closely with Meta and are committed to both robust and rapid support for everything that they've been launching along the way as well as a number of their test programs that they run. However, that landscape also does continue to change rapidly. You may have heard about Meta's decision to discontinue marketing messages and WhatsApp for U.S. customers recently. That doesn't impact us very much commercially because the vast majority of our global demand for WhatsApp was already non-U.S. audiences. But it is another example of just how dynamic that offering and pricing landscape has been for Meta as they're quickly iterating on their product. That impacts both us and our road maps as well as customers who need to plan out budget to be able to use for these different offerings. And so definitely, while that remains dynamic, it will be much harder both for customers forecast and budget as well as for us to forecast. Now what's helping customers and us navigate this is that we are in a much better position to manage these changes with the flexible credit model that we launched last year. And obviously, Braze product offering is highly flexible. Given the cross-channel offerings that we have across line and RCS and SMS and push notifications and these others, in particular, as their product road map continues to evolve, we're able to reuse a lot of the capabilities that we build out for other channels. And so I don't think it's been really a drag on R&D velocity at all, but definitely while it continues to be a dynamic offering, it has been harder for customers to plan for that. And we've been working really closely with Meta in order to bring them feedback and work closely with them as partners, and we've been really happy with how that partnership has been going as they've continue to iterate the product. But it's still hard to forecast out a long way into the future as we look at that channel.

Understood. Thanks for the color. Thanks.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Nick Altmann with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Awesome. Thank you. It's clear there's still plenty of opportunity for consolidation and replacement activity. But Bill, maybe how should we see this acquisition of OfferFit as well as additional product efforts, whether it's Project Catalyst or future -- new product features or launches. As we think about kind of the next growth act for Braze, just maybe give us an update on kind of how you envision the platform evolving over the next couple of years and how that can support continued growth durability? Thanks.

Yes, of course. We're really excited about the potential for these because as I spoke about at the top of the call, well, the technology that we have at our fingertips for customer engagement today is certainly head and shoulders above where it was five years ago, 10 years ago, even just a couple of years ago. There's also still a tremendous amount of room for continued improvement in terms of the relevance and the -- just the performance that we actually achieve in these channels. And it also continues to be the case that the ROI of engaging in first-party channels of leveraging the first-party data that a brand already has ownership of, which is an asset that brands across every vertical continue to put more and more investment in that, that opportunity to create outsized value and return from continuing to optimize more of the first-party world, much the same way that a lot of the performance marketing world has been really focused on for a long time. We think there's still a tremendous opportunity to continue to find more leverage in performance in there. And I think both Project Catalyst as well as OfferFit is a really great way for us to both help our customers achieve that continue those continued increases in performance driven by higher levels of relevance and stronger, more effective personalization but also for us to capture more of the value that we generate through that optimization. And so we're definitely -- when we look out across our customer base, I think that across that spectrum, I spoke of earlier of fully turnkey rapidly deployed automated testing and other sorts of machine learning capabilities that can be put into any part of the customer journey all the way up to the bespoke full OfferFit offering that has the expert services attachment to it. Within that spectrum, we think that there is something additional for every single customer in the Braze universe to be able to go and drive additional better outcomes for their customers and also be able to drive upsell growth for Braze.

Great. Thank you.

Our next question will come from Scott Berg with Needham. Please go ahead.

Hi, everyone. Really nice quarter. Again, for me is, Bill, you talked about the vertical focus in R&D and, of course, the new [shop] (ph) announcement with the integration there. But how do we think about the benefit that your customers are going to get outside of maybe just streamlining the technology side of that integration? Is there -- I guess, how else does it affect, I don't know, [indiscernible] sales cycles, all those types of things? How much more efficient will that new build capital?

Yes. I think there's a few things. First, a lot of these capabilities are they're focused on getting more rapid time to value for customers they get up and running in the first place as well as they expanded in new use cases. The data model expansions that you have and a lot of the kind of vertical-specific capabilities that we're putting in places like product catalogs, within the segmentation options, within things like the purchase object, et cetera, those have a dual benefit where they both by virtue of getting those more organized and standardized, customers can actually deploy more quickly. They also make the machine learning efforts that we have happening in BrazeAI able to be more effective as well because we're able to get the data into more standardized formats where we're then able to deploy models that are, as I mentioned before, when a model is more constrained, it's easier to deploy. That doesn't mean it's less flexible. But of course, the more that we can standardize the data models around specific verticals, the more use cases we can actually accomplish and deliver additional value to through those more constrained models. And so you should see these things as working hand in hand to both improve the offering the visibility of the offering within those categories, the time to value for customers in those categories, working with Braze, getting up and running with Braze and then over the longer term, those deployments being able to because they're more bespoke to the vertical, us being able to then parlay that into additional features and enhancements that are both driven by stronger machine learning models, but also just improving productivity for marketers that work within those categories for all the common use cases that they have.

Very helpful. Congrats on nice quarter again.

Yes. Thank you.

Our next question comes from Taylor McGinnis with UBS. Taylor, you can use star six to unmute.

Okay. Can you guys hear me now?

Yes.

Yes. Okay. Awesome. Perfect. Thanks for much for taking the question. Isabelle, when I hear like an inflection in growth, that sounds like a potential acceleration. So I guess, could you just talk about what you are seeing in terms of either renewal trends or expansion activity that's giving you comfort in that outlook? And now we're a couple of months into this 1Q, I guess any thoughts in terms of time lines and when we could get past some of these more challenged COVID contracts? Thanks.

Yes. So rather than thinking about it as on an organic basis as any kind of sort of inflection reacceleration, it's more of kind of a stabilization with then kind of a slow steady path kind of back up from there. So it's not -- I don't think at the hockey stick on the upside. And I think what we're seeing is we're seeing strength in our new business momentum and then we are seeing obviously the new cohorts from an expansion perspective performing better than the SERP cohorts. And I think those two things combined together are going to help us kind of achieve that stabilization inflection point and then steady reacceleration of the top line on an organic basis. But I'm not trying to indicate that there's a hockey stick inflection point happening in the near term.

Thank you so much.

Our next question will come from Michael Berg with Wells Fargo.

Hey, congrats on the quarter. Thanks for taking my question. I have another one for Isabelle, but this time in relation to Project Catalyst. You noted that it's likely to come out GA later this or latest next quarter. So I'm curious how to think about what's embedded in the guidance in terms of Project Catalyst contribution. And has that changed? Or how you -- has the way you thought about the product contribution post-acquisition there? Thank you.

Yes. So obviously, the guide on an organic basis doesn't include OfferFit and just includes kind of our own business. And I don't think Catalyst is going GA quite as quickly as you're indicating.

Yes. As I said in the prepared remarks, the first private beta release will be at the end of Q1, and we expect subsequent beta releases before GA, and there's been nothing said about when it goes to GA.

Yes. So I wouldn't expect anything material related to that embedded in the guide or coming anytime soon.

Got it. And then a quick follow-up for Bill here. You know that -- this is the best you felt in the competitive landscape here. Some of your key legacy competitors have talked about their core products, competitive products underperforming. Has that created more discussions or more uptick in top of funnel activity? Or how can we think about the changing competitive landscape taking shape for you guys?

Yes. I've been talking about this for a little while now, and I think that the -- I'll call it the kind of distracted posture toward the competitive products within the parts of the legacy marketing clouds that Braze competes with has been picked up on by the broader community. And that has a few implications. One is that we're seeing partners that have been long-time services or technology partners to those marketing clouds starting to look around and figure out their next act is going to be. And as Braze emerges as the category leader in customer engagement, we're having a lot more of those conversations with prospective or current partners about doubling down on their commitment to Braze. I think also there's been a lot of enterprises, in particular, that have really been they've been looking forward to a product road map from those capabilities. They maybe have been noticing the gap between what they'd like to have and what the legacy marketing clouds are delivering to them for a while. But the product marketing around it and their prospective future road maps have felt really good and they've been holding on, hoping that those promises will come true in the near future. And now I think it's becoming increasingly clear to people that those products are more stagnant than they are relishing ahead. And in the meantime, Braze continues to push ahead into new frontiers with highly focused and robust R&D specifically in the customer engagement space. And so when we consider both the absolute positioning as well as the relative investment posture, I think that we feel really good about that. And I think the ecosystem is starting to notice that as well.

Awesome. Thank you.

Our next question comes from Brian Schwartz with Oppenheimer.

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Bill [indiscernible] the integration with the architecture plans with OfferFit, I think you mentioned that they have a different data model than Braze. As you think about scaling Braze's architecture in the future, is the plan to get back to one tech stack back? Or is it faster to scale by adding other tech stacks and as you think about your future avenues [indiscernible]? Thanks.

Yes. So I think that an enduring advantage that we've had against the prior generation of marketing clouds and marketing automation suites has actually derived from the tight integration that we have across our stack as well as obviously the event-driven stream processor that relies all of it. And then the increasing flexibility of the Braze data platform to be able to get more data more quickly, completely and cheaply into that event-driven stream processor. Any acquisition that we make along the way is absolutely going to be predicated on a strong integration plan where we bring those technology stacks together. I'm very committed to Braze not ending up being a fragmented set of acquisitions with a bunch of the complexity that's inherent in that. We're really looking forward to OfferFit coming into the Braze environment and the foundations and us being able to leverage their engine and then being able to leverage a lot of the things that we've built along the way. I think that when you specifically look at the data question, big part of extracting additional uplift through the way that they apply their -- that they generate their features and apply their reinforcement learning to it a activating a bespoke company or industry-specific data across both the customer feature space, which is to say, kind of all the data that you have on your -- on first-party users across the user profiles as well as the action feature space, which is -- which basically means like all the different optionality that you have to make different offers, provide different incentives, different copy, different choices that you have along the customer journey. And so bringing in both of those in a bespoke way also then requires transforming those incoming data flows to extract features that are…

Thanks.

Our next question comes from Yun Kim with Loop Capital.

Okay. Great. Congrats on the solid quarter, Bill and Isabelle, strengthen in the new customer adds that you saw in the quarter. Any new bundles or packaging that's driving -- that drove the strength? And if you can update us on how the initial land deal size has been trending?

Yes. So we only update our pricing and packaging meaningfully once a year, and the refresh for that will actually be coming up as we begin Q2. I also remind everyone that we launched the flexible credit model around this time last year. And the adoption of that has been really good, but we had limited it to just a couple of channels. And so we've actually in this upcoming version or refresh pricing and packaging, we're going to be expanding the flexible credit model to also include e-mail content cards, banners, audience and major archiving. And so that -- we're excited about that and continuing to see good benefits from that. And obviously, we did see the benefits of the flexible credit model being there in Q4. I think that similarly, we're continuing to see the kinds of buying trends that I've spoken about a lot of just there's a lot of scrutiny and rigor behind all of these evaluations that are happening. And the upsides of that are that people are scoping their purchases in ways that they're getting up and running more quickly and more completely through their initial integration because they've got stakeholders all aligned before they're ready to go. A lot of these RFPs are drawn out, which has the downside of it being a longer sales cycle but has the upside of more often the company is ready to go for implementation right away. And so I think those are some of the differences that we're seeing. It's not materially different in Q4 versus the rest of the year. But obviously, we were happy with the new business performance in the quarter.

Okay. Great. Thank you so much.

Our next question comes from Patrick Walravens with JMP Securities. Patrick, your line is open. Feel free to unmute.

Sorry about that. Can you hear me now.

We can. Please go ahead.

Okay. Good. Thank you. Bill, I'm curious on OfferFit. Why now? Like was there a formal process that they were going through? Were they considering doing a new financing? How long have you been thinking about this? Why did this deal happen now?

Yes. I won't go into too many of the details, but just quickly. We have an active Corpdev group here. This was identified as an area of interest for us. OfferFit has been a longtime partner, as I've mentioned a couple of times. Braze is actually their most prominent partner and we've been really happy with seeing the joint customer outcomes that we've been able to achieve them along the way. And so we actually did approach them. We happen to approach them, right, as they were preparing for a fundraising round. And so that did put some constraints around the overall time line. But a big part of this is just that we've seen them maturing as a business in our partnership ecosystem. And we felt like this was a great time for complementary building. I've mentioned a couple of times of things that they've built, the things that we've built that the flip side of that is also the things that they haven't built yet and the things that where we haven't built yet as well. And I think those things match up in a way that's going to create not just an exciting combination but also a really efficient one.

All right. Great. Thank you.

We'll take our final question from Tyler Radke with Citi.

Hi. Thanks for the question. Isabelle, you mentioned that you did a little bit better on logo churn. I was wondering if you could expand on that and share an update on the health of the SMB segment of the market.

Yes. I mean, look, the one thing about churning an account is once you've churned it, you can't churn it again. And so we've had a few quarters now where we've been talking about levels of churn that have been higher than what we would want on a sustained basis, and we're starting to kind of work our way through that. Now there are -- we're probably still not all the way through some level of right contract rightsizing among some of our customers who will stick around, but we'll have to kind of right size their entitlements as they come up for renewal. But that said, we have indeed flushed out a number of smaller accounts that -- whose business health was certainly at risk.

Thank you.

There are no more questions in the queue. So I'll pass back to Bill for closing remarks.

Yes. Thank you, everybody, for joining us today. We obviously really exciting news today and really happy with the execution from the team around the world. We're looking ahead to a great fiscal year, and we'll see you next quarter.