Nicholas H. Cumins
Management
I mean, so the confidence that we're seeing from our accounts, whether large or small, is what's really playing out at the moment of renewals and with our larger accounts. This is where we agreed together on both higher floors and higher ceilings. Of course, they come together in the low double-digit percentage, let's say, around 10%. So just a sign of the confidence, right? I think from a pricing standpoint, we always make sure that we capture our fair share of the value that our software provides. When it comes to our applications overall, we've been quite consistent with our price escalations in the mid-single digits. We were quite reasonable at the time of very high inflation not to go too high. And therefore, we are able to continue to increase our prices in the mid-single digits. Now when it comes to AI, we're going to see if the way we -- I'm not talking about the price point now, but the way we price, the metrics we use are adapted. For the most part, our applications are based on users. They are either subscription when it comes to SMB business or they are application-based usage when it comes to our enterprise accounts on E365. And of course, we have a number of applications targeted for asset operations that use different metrics like assets, number of assets, definitely the case of AssetWise historically and the case of the new applications we have for asset analytics that we talked about, road monitoring and cell towers. But now when it comes to AI for design, the feedback that we're getting for the first accounts that are testing OpenSite+ is that maybe, indeed, right now, it's a bridge too far to change completely the pricing metric. We still need a user component. But maybe application-based usage is not the most appropriate pricing metric because the value of the software cannot really be necessarily translated in the actual usage in number of days. And the productivity gains are so much that we may need something else. So with them, at least the agreement is we'll start with a subscription, term-based subscription. And then we will have an add-on or additional charges that kick in as soon as the usage of AI is extensive and goes way beyond what a normal engineer will be able to do in a given time. But that's going to be an evolution, right? So we're doing this not in isolation. We're doing this constantly discussing with our accounts, so what is appropriate going forward. We're seeing openness for alternative pricing metrics going forward, but this is going to take a little while. We're very much early stage.